Joe Rogan Experience #208 — "Freeway" Rick Ross Transcript

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0:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! probably the most famous drug dealer in the history of los angeles i would say that's Yeah, three people. using parts of my name it's freeway out of philly and we also have it was a freeway rich out of Kansas City that did pretty to take somebody's name as he is because he was like you know no no no that happened like 10 years ago i got that nickname

2:36 And you're a fucking corrections officer I mean, you know to have the judge to rule in in his favor the other day was like something from you i mean and it takes you 10 years to catch them with it and you catch them You should be like that. Millie Vannelly? It's about It's just such a good hook that that made him. So now it's legal that he's got your name.

5:23 You know what I mean? Rick Ross. Rick Ross. gary that you know i'm hustling every day so he took that and turned it into a song so i mean you We should get his application and read what it says, what it takes to be a correctional officer. What's really fucked up is there's a video of him, an old video of him, and you're on Whoa. 100%. You know, he gave us some elaborate story.

7:57 Yeah, he likes to bolo. is suspect you know when i was in jail somebody wrote me a letter and said hey his beard is fake what could you imagine you catch What did he say? Let's go get them. So he was their battering ram. It's fascinating how that snuck by, you know? become made they money cow you know they have a sense of just shoving you down we wanted to give it back you know i'm? That's what the streets need to tell him.

11:23 That's beautiful. God. You crazy asshole. I saw that on Nightline. Was that the idea? So they were looking for ways to raise this money. He couldn't remember whether or not they sold arms to people who hate us. the senate east and all this while you were in jail yes i was in jail was in 96. so you had no idea about the cia connection no i didn't care man i

15:12 you don't have to turn in your report card. They just passed you. So you were just dealing with a wild bunch of kids and you were a nice guy. exactly you don't have to participate at all that's amazing and I never really if it's not your kid that's growing up without a father, If you get an unlucky roll of the dice and you're born in that sixth spot well guess what you're fucked you're fucked you got to figure out a way out

17:42 walking down the street and he run into one of these kids that didn't get it you know in a few years your kid is walking down the street and he run into one of these kids that exactly didn't get it you know and you get robbed there your situation is so crazy it's so hard to Oh, man, I was sitting on my porch one day and I was so broke. and i saw the movie superfly and i'm like wow superfly that's me you know and i'd always wanted

19:35 i threw it right up in there whoop wow okay so so you you go over your friend's house he's got it But his free base is different than crack, right? Yeah, we called it ready rock. So I keep paying them. You know, so that became like a job for them. Big misconception. Crack is not. Mm-mm. Not true. That's a misconception. It is a misconception. Big misconception.

22:01 You make more money. You still have to get your money back out of it. going the way of crack opposed to coke if you're trying to get fucked up if you take powder and put It cooked all the impurities out of it and turned it into a gel. No, I didn't believe him, man. something so small right you could barely see it you know I could put in my Well, you know what?

25:16 it was the best sensation they'd ever had. In the beginning, I caught myself early. It was at that time, yeah. and I looked up, my money was like, wow, man, you had $10,000. No, I just quit. the crack is it uh some people get addicted some people don't is it one of those you know you gotta Wow. when this happened when I started yeah 1920 1920 so you're 1920 you get started

28:25 they smoke it and smack their lips and taste alright I mean I need another Hamburger today. how was i gonna go back to mike and tell him my man i'm gonna go tell my man So he came back with somebody who wanted to buy a hundred hours worth and I called Well, it started just like that. So I went on and told him. You know, I used to like his little jewelry.

31:27 world he said i should sell coke but i just backed up for a while whoa so uh it's hard to do that And it was like all love. I'm 20 years old. ask no questions as long as the man let you be the man, leave it alone. I mean, it really is like a movie, right? And now, you know, my family wouldn't have no more hungry nights, Wow, that's amazing that's amazing I was forced to learn how to read what did you

34:45 And you just weren't home or something? Isn't that crazy? Wow. Yeah, I had a custom time wheel shop, car wash, shoe store, beauty salon, junkyard, motel, bought an old theater. well I would just have somebody else to do it for me. Wow. so as long as you were making them money everybody was making money everybody was Yeah. Right away, it was just crazy.

38:48 trouble they was bragging about me yeah homeboy Rick he millionaire he got this right there we might have fucking found the magic bullet That they ain't None of my business you got that line but it jumped over that line and everybody knew yeah it became public and you you know mid-level didn't get you get a matches nothing crazy right Pasadena your name is everything this is all what you surmised once you got into prison really sat

42:11 And I had the little bird. Yeah, I put that on there. Want to look in the funeral home car The police was in there You know, some say, no, don't wear no jewelry. I'd run to the house and put it up and run back to the track cuz you don't want Sleeping, jumping right back in. Well, I got my boy standing out. in somebody's yard. Right. So, you know, we

45:03 like apartment three grams and then they would go out and sell it and I was just making like And if you go to my spot and spend $50, it would be like going to somebody else's spot and spend $100. And then it would just be a few $2,000 spots. that's brilliant absolutely i didn't know i didn't know exactly what you know what how they called it They knew how they would be able to re-up again.

47:59 How many years in was that? connected to me you know where people came over because they would let their friends come over Yeah, all right. And when we get ready to leave, I get away the next morning, my lawyer called me and said, man, you had, uh, you had two kilos of And we go in. jail you know what they put people up and stuff and starting to ask me a bunch

51:38 If we find out that you told him, we're going to take care of you. lawyer than you and he's like yeah I knew he had a lawyer now don't you to invest the cops to investigate the cops then we showed them here look what we got on them you Now, do you know Rampart was a fall off from the freeway case yeah you you think you the judge is corrupt I don't know we say I don't know

54:48 What, is he supposed to be a Freemason or something? Let's call him Fat Bill for the rest of the show. That's hilarious. More supplier, Danilo Blandon. he bring me down your supplier brought you down I mean, why should I get a library like Reagan? flying coke in from south america and they were dropping it off in mina arkansas and the story goes two kids see the drop uh they catch the kids and kill them and then they put

56:58 Well, man, Gary Webb killed himself, shot himself in the head twice. How do you shoot yourself in the head twice? who was the whistleblower for Enron, shot himself in the head twice. How many people have committed suicide by a gunshot to the head twice? articles written for the san jose mercury news and it was later published as a book And they'd be like, oh, well, your car is gone.

59:22 I mean, it's crazy the way I saw thing on cnn the other night and they were talking about how california has built That's some shit that should have been taking place. that we have today, that that's still a legal thing. line and my family and their well-being i want to expose that's already been exposed that's made my life a little easier while I was in prison you know shout out to Kevin

1:01:57 who he is because of his friendship with Bill Hicks. And that's how I heard about, because oh and that's how i heard about because i'd already i'd already heard about When Barry Seale was murdered, We know where you at No one goes to jail Yeah that those added up to three strikes. i used to stand out on the street i used to make hundreds of sales a day right there on that one

1:04:52 all right, well, this dude's a career criminal. right you know before you can start passing judge judgment on people you have to live in their shoes How deep into your sentence had you already figured out how to read? Oh, cool. read over 300 books before i left prison really yeah wow you've read more books than i have in guys that's got to be kind of a crazy feeling man everybody's just hoping you can crack this

1:07:44 But, you know, you think about that that too like if I had a long rope they convicted you for life on that three strikes law it seems like you should be able to go after he could charge you with Not crack. one i think that was still why isn't it one to one and that's what i said because they already right now if they if they had the 18 to 1 they would walk out of prison today wow so i'm saying

1:10:49 and then a day after that one year, for anybody to hear it. I was entrapped because I wasn't selling drugs. mind made up i know what i'm doing i'm my own man but before they get like that they need somebody a place that they can go life sentence this guy called me i'm not selling drugs you weren't selling drugs at all how did you stop i hadn't sold drugs in six years seven years

1:13:25 Right. I got out for six months. you i was like man i'm kicking it with my mom you know my mom came and seen me and and stuff like So, you know, that didn't help. police come from everywhere so you'd never even got to sell no I never sold Do you have proof that he planted the drugs? Lying on police reports. This Rampart division was working for him.

1:16:22 You know, I remember my first young guy who got arrested by him, He was like, man, I had like $40,000. It's tough. They can follow everywhere you go, and they can do all this shit without warrants now. So you find your loophole and then you chase after it. Go to jail. Comm commit a crime and get and they agreed with me totally. They side with you. So you had 20 to life?

1:19:33 Right, right. You know, they mad at you up there if you got 20. If you have 20 years. me how dangerous was the prison that you were in initially the first prison And a guy sitting in his chair, and a guy walks up behind him like just keep bumping up against the wall boom boom boom really violently you know and you know yeah u.s penitentiary what is the difference well say for instance the fci you can't have more than

1:22:39 separated like that by your violence by how much you get in trouble, things like that. So the USP is the most dangerous. You know, some of those guys from D.C. are really, really violent. And what they do is they take all the baddest guys Did you get into any violent interactions in prison? way is when when football season you know I played flag football with the

1:24:22 You know, when I play basketball, I don't mean to hurt anybody, Even though I am adopted by most groups, You know, they adopt me. Yeah. out of jail man what the fuck was that like the day you get out of 20 years and knowing that you it is the same situation? he went right back on the block and started selling dope again and he got arrested that day so he wasn't convicted

1:27:07 Now when you got out No. as is magazine yeah they knew i was coming home they they started to publicize that i had got a And it's called freewayenterprises.com? they can meet friends and share music and share pictures You know, I knew that it wasn't safe for him to be out here in California because guys in California are very vengeful. Wow. Tupac? Just said it the other day.

1:29:47 Tupac's dead. Well, I'll guarantee you have more today. And check that out. I'm trying, man. Hologram was creepy. You see that shit from Coachella? It was weird. I mean, how do they make money now? really so this is all post mp3 world right right it used to be the the performance used to be all Oh. and they don't understand that someone else's success does not equal a failure for you it's