Joe Rogan Experience #2083 — Taylor Sheridan Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. first thing I ever saw that you did was Hell or High Water, I didn't sleep. You know, the reason I chose to do this for a living, So I started as an actor first because I thought that's what it was. I want your land. And confounded by its success. through to do it. Critics are less relevant today than at any time in human history. They really

3:23 Like who are these people? lens through today's new question morality how is what should we be making movies about and you can That's my job. and everyone's going to follow him, and that's going to heal the country. Because someone would be too offended at the portrayal of Forrest's character. that simple Jack character in Tropic Thunder and when he says he never go full

6:19 Like, comedy movies are dead. You could never make any of those movies anymore. Yeah. line of defense because this is where where the woke meets the wall the woke meets the wall with That's not stand-up comedy. who are some of the people that help push that, make jokes about me, make jokes about living there, and you get some understanding of it. And you get these groups of people that they huddle up in these fucking echo chambers

9:25 And people are so coddled that they have confused feelings with rights. They literally say words are violence. The worst thing that's ever happened to you It's no big deal. thing is they'll say now if you disagree with someone you're phobic yeah when a phobia is an whatever you are, Are they running with it? Oh, my God, we're having a great time. It's like what my comedy, though. For stand-up comedy, it's actually fun. Are they running with it?

11:27 shocking you know and i certainly did that early in my career and now like if you have you have a position to defend if you're gonna go out on a limb you're gonna make fun of something that's facts or at least well thought out ideas. Or pops in in the middle of a show. And I go, yell at everybody on the stairs. Wow. Wow. you're going to have to have executives, studio heads, all this shit.

13:59 And if they laugh, it's good. The phone's in a locked up in a yonder bag. They said, and they're from LA. And Louis CK said, we built an Alamo. And all these other comedians were moving out here because this was the only place we could do stand-up. up indoors and they all heard about austin that we're all out here and then ron white's like you And that was the theater I bought.

16:32 They can be whatever they are, but they're permitted up. Before they just torched that place. Yeah. you had all these and the fbi was just getting kind of not atf kind of getting spanked in spots Yes, but I need you here to do the garden. Yeah, and then he becomes his own God How do you think that worked out? But when he was young, when he got old. What did I say?

19:30 I think that's how he started. different way to live and and like just like that i'm sure you've seen wild wild country And then once they did that, Oh, yeah. government was doing was we needed people for a multitude of reasons. Uh, after the civil war, And we can't settle it because every time we we try the lakota or the comanche kick the shit out of us

21:59 there were people that would come from areas What seems so insane, what really struck me, I mean, I did a lot of thinking about that show last night. That's nothing. and how fucking insane but 1937 is closer to 1984 than 2023 is to 84, Yeah. It didn't mention any of that. Who are Indians? galveston and he marched through burned austin went all the way to galveston everybody got on

25:51 gwen s is that it great great fucking guy and he found out when he moved to texas like he he moved Yeah. Yeah. There's a section up there around Humboldt County and up in that area in California. And then you come to these big urban centers and where people do not understand where their food comes from. How dare they go out and kill that animal? No. I don't care if you're vegan or not.

28:57 Like, I don't know how you do it. people got interested in it there was a big uptick. Or started to want to take some responsibility, some kind of control measure. Yeah, well, that's the way to live if you could. For five years I went. And I'd come back to Texas and hunt for a weekend. But most people are just so disconnected from it and so connected to the urban world where no one's growing anything.

31:09 Because there was no buses. Everyone's stuffed in these tenement buildings. No. Yeah. I mean, it just decimated. and that's what I really appreciated about 1883. there's markers and South Pass right year just mind-numbing statistics insane yeah insane and it's it's so interesting that the You have to figure it all out on your own. came because they were fucking starving my family came over from Ireland because

36:15 more effective than our single shot muskets like they were a superior army and and stayed that way but it was also, The tongue. they've come back yeah they've come back but not nearly to where they were no but they've come back Steve Rinella cooked it. cooked it as best he could but we he made like a pot roast out of the beaver hams yeah it was very

38:25 Is there a temperature you have to kill leprosy at where you cook the food to, like trichinosis? Like javelina, then? Yeah. Oh, my gosh. pig man who has a show on the one of the sportsman's channel the outdoor channel they Like, here it is. and then feed them to people. teaches them how to butcher them and cook them. Oh my God. Well, if you think about it,

42:01 Box of bullets And you can create a year's worth of meat for 600 bucks. preposterous you could do it for a medical reason even though i don't know what that reason would podcast he said if you want to kill the most things become a vegan yeah 100 if you're thinking That's not counting the billions of bees because they're going to bring the bees up from Brazil to pollinate the trees and then they're going to fucking die.

44:38 You'll see plenty of almonds. Well, if you look anywhere in the ecosystem, Kills the flowers, kills this. They eat fruit until they get a hold of those little freaking panzer monkeys. Oh, dude, they go to war. Yeah. we really didn't show how many times they killed monkeys because they do it so often. But if they can find monkeys, they go after monkeys.

46:46 utopian, artificial paradise and you're making sure that everything that you grow you're picking it So what are you going to do? fueling our existence. You know, I talked about it So he, this guy it takes place in the wilds of wyoming um and there's a young woman who's an fbi investigator she comes someone's on their cell phone when you're walking That's the reality of our life.

49:29 Nothing makes me crack up more than the stop oil people when they're blocking the highway Oh, wow. Does not give a fuck. You know, they're mandating all these electric vehicles in California that's the best thing for the environment. the thing that they've all penned is this is going to be the deal. But they think we're 30 to 40 What's the method of cold fusion?

51:52 It's essentially you're splitting an atom, but you're splitting it in a manner that doesn't seem to create the waste. Yeah. It's going to be fucked forever. no one wanted to take responsibility for it but there's been some documentaries done on it and i and they're breathing in, and watch nuclear testing. because they kept shooting in Monument Valley

54:14 But I mean, John Wayne looked like he smoked cigarettes Yes. I mean, have him- Oh, I knew they were doing that. it you're like yo you got a fucking machine inside you keeping you alive so does it run on the energy They're using it for which could be fucking horrible, I think he defended the badminton title more than anybody. 1980 20 cast members it says 91 had contracted cancer wow oh my god and this is pre-internet kids and that's

57:13 It's actually the map of the world, but a lot of them happen in the United States. This goes on for 15 minutes. Okay. States. Eight United States. you got a nuclear bomb, motherfucker? We got We go up to 45 like quick. Yeah, that's probably what they did. has got to be Nevada. See there? Look, they're all October 1956, we're at 87. bombs 67 510 and we talk about things we talk about things that warm the planet

59:59 But how much of a big deal And I don't know if they're still having those issues three generations later. one little area and it looks like july no yeah september of 61 oh boy that went to 60 bombs went off that's the dude that's khrushchev that's the dude he banged his fucking shoe on the on the desk of his voice. And those are people that had lost millions and millions and millions of soldiers in World War II.

1:02:28 Death and destruction to colonial servitude. They edited it. That could be a shoe. do yeah we got it's all that's where communism goes kids it seems like a great idea it seems It works in small groups. Everything, and so I'll take the Lakota for example. They were all raiding each other, Isn't that wild? Yeah. to go be able to earn that trinket that's such a good point and and if you look at communism

1:06:02 You're gonna get your coffee and you're to get your rum because we'd prefer you stay nice and liquid and happy own path. Really? Olympic gold medalist, Pernell Whitaker. like whatever the fuck they have, whatever therapies they have. Jesus Christ. So what you're essentially dealing with is like a Mike Tyson type dude who's at like Right. And some of the scariest guys that have ever fought in the UFC have come out of Cuba.

1:09:12 He's like in his 40s now and just jacked natural. he goes yeah yeah he's he's amazing right no no you understand like I've never seen a human being Have you ever seen him? So he can only speak limited English. So that is also a part of what Cuba is. for food. gave him like houses and shit. Yeah. They, They would treat them well. They did that also for the Soviet athletes.

1:11:36 There's a photo of him that I have out there just constantly. He was beating you up with the world. human cat he just got just a human dose of whatever their best genes were so that's the You're farming athletes. They're real close, but man it comes to like freak athletes, capitalism seems to be the way to go. Now they have Drugs Free Sport, which is going to do a similar program,

1:14:25 Like, you don't have to do that. do some stuff i really do i think it's science i think it helps you heal better i think there Or did something well vitamin called alpha brain know, that has like something that's supposed to boost your testosterone and they're making mean that's the thing like those gas station dick pills it's probably just viagra uh-uh not according

1:16:57 But they would get pulled, and then they'd come back with a new name. These are respectively the active ingredients of Viagra and Cialis. buying them all the time he did didn't he, like, reviews of gas station dick pills? he developed a website called pepsispice.com He was making it up. He just made up this they fucked up though and not getting the domain

1:19:10 Oh, yeah. They have like an ideological position on things, they just want to only You know, you can watch the debates between, I think they shook hands. What a better time. and try to catch that one before it goes over but but i'll go on to another question so it was a you can believe and what's this, and we're going to is, which by the way, when you, when you're talking about what you can

1:22:40 And we could sit there and say, and the Democratic Party a fireman or policeman and they'd say, hey, thank you for your service. and became about a bunch of other things. Yeah. And this is Los Angeles. But it didn't last. that's their job it's it's human nature and you're not going to find it you know consider you can who would just show up and kill everybody.

1:25:42 but I didn't think of them as that big of a factor You know, we've got... that cause is when we start manipulating that and abandoning the rule of law yeah when we start essentially make a decision based upon uh a trial that has not happened yet in other words they're to maintain control. And that's when you start to have a dictatorship. Yeah. At the end of the day. Regardless of who's left, right, doesn't make a difference.

1:28:28 Both of those are terrible ideas. How crazy is it? Who's Dean? Who the fuck are you, Dean? She's a self-help writer? about, kids. That's supposed to be what the whole thing is about. If someone comes along and they're It's crazy that you think you can do it because you think your team is right. You could say all these different things. Now we have this.

1:31:22 people need to wake up to that because the, going to manipulate it in a way that is going to. And guess what? And anybody who's a rabble rouser gets shot. how about you leave the document alone, And they're worth hundreds of millions. Okay? she was literally dying yeah and they're telling her who to vote for yeah they're just pushing her Okay, and so you're driving what?

1:33:50 Yeah. He's fit. They'd Scotchgard their jeans and go skiing. I did the same thing. body next to robert kennedy jr's body the guy's really fit that's fake yeah that one's There's a difference. Was it a Chrysler? Yeah, no. Take us out. We're like seven like But do you really think Joe Biden would pass that test? Yeah. And they had a start date that, by God, they were going to start didn't matter they didn't have scripts they were going to start

1:38:14 Fucking killed me. you can't fuck around i'm very very conscious of what i eat you know i try to be pretty conscious and I'm, cause you'll get what they call the movie flute where you just just get I let God do a lot of the CGI. How about that ending? throughout all the episodes. How the fuck is Tim McGraw and Faith Hill so good? That film, and I know Pete Berg came on the show with you here.

1:41:34 That they're a real-life married couple. You know it's like this like real like you there's like layers of chemistry It's heavy, dude. you know empires that ruled the world for long periods of time, you know, the Portuguese and the British and the Mongols, of course, and the Vikings. Well, yeah, that's a real problem with Egypt, too. find even in north america and you know catastrophes do happen and i know we don't want to believe it

1:44:53 And he goes, sticks. And it's everywhere. Yeah. I think there's a certain amount of genetic memory in people. is something other than just what you know They must have been able to have a civilization And whoever did that probably was along the same lines that we're on. This is real, real, real, real, real recent. they'll probably do a slightly better job.

1:48:11 Yeah. Yeah. There might be a small population of these things still alive today, or will they're alive Like he was doing science. So from then on... fucking kill you they will fucking kill you they kill everybody you can't even get out of the boat And because there's such a small number of them on this island the size of Manhattan forever Rescued her when she was a woman. She wanted to go back. She escaped twice. Yeah, she's like I don't want to be this life sucks

1:52:58 who founded the Four Sixes, and W.T. Wagner, Yeah, we'll pay you. But in that time, Quanah needed a house because he had so many people coming to an amazing experience it's like one of the coolest things you could ever see in your life When they would go to bed at night and they'd look up, they'd be like, wow. And I thought, I can't live like this.

1:56:08 Yeah. mountain range and you see like snow-capped peaks and these beautiful meadows of grass and Perfect symmetry. Oh, she has good genes. She's fertile. Oh, look at him. He's big and tall and around you i think it humbles people in a way and it grounds people in a way and i think the city Yeah, that makes sense. It was still like light outside. It's like you're living in a totally different environment than the rest of the world.

1:59:19 You go to a small town in West Texas or a small town in rural Wyoming or anywhere. so the only interaction and this is what people in the city don't understand the only interaction, and this is what people in the city don't understand, the only interaction that people in true rural areas have with the government is paying taxes and the military because most of them join the military at some point.

2:00:45 Right. It's the worst investment in history of Social Security. You can't. and you put it into and i'm not a big i'm not a big 401k ira guy but if you did and you put it into, and I'm not a big 401k IRA guy, They just don't give you any of the investment. Yeah, I don't know. Who knows what the fuck they do? I don't know why the government doesn't at least, well, they probably do invest it, they just don't give you any of the investment.

2:02:36 Where's it going? government's the most inefficient. They, they, they don't manage our money well because it's you no matter what, matter what no matter if with all their surplus every year. That's interesting. Um, is it because of oil? A lot I think it's something kooky. $32 billion deficit. That's so kooky, man. thing that i think you know there's this debate about climate change which by the way climate's

2:06:10 economy on petroleum products starting in the 1880s. So it's perfectly fine to go, look, we bet on a horse that has some real complications. can figure out how to make it cleaner we're more likely to run out of oil before we find it's pure replacement, to be perfectly honest. Is caused by humans and climate change is all bad and we have to go electric. And you just have this very surface view of what the complex problem in front of everybody is.

2:08:04 That's also something that will happen with climate change. Kilimanjaro, supposed to, no snow by 2006 And our patience is wearing thin and everybody has to get on board. But how are we going to propel those electric cars? then I mean yeah it's a World Heritage Site it creates like an absurd amount of about from this toxic fumes of this shit they're chipping out of the ground and that's what powers

2:10:53 we do not have the pipeline of the grid. They're doing fucking rolling blackouts. Throw solar panels on top of everything. Why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't you? It's free power. Yeah. And I'm a big supporter. Fuck, especially there. Throw solar panels on top of everything. You can power your house with solar if you have a big enough yard and you've sun out,

2:11:49 Like if you wanted to come into California right now and you wanted to manage it correctly They're trying to come up with this new Like, you suck. That's it. Yeah. send dudes out like let's go but now they're talking about increase you know here's here's collapse them you can't do it same with beats oh same same with any of those guys, so it's paper wealth

2:14:29 But if you look at the share, Let's just say Jeff Bezos is worth. it'd be ten thousand times a million 100 10 and 100 millions would be a billion. drops the next year, like what are you going to do then? And then it's on fucking MSNBC and now it's worth 30. Yeah. You have a fucking gigantic machine that is very inefficient And if you owe them money, it's not good enough to pay that money back.

2:17:36 Let one of them work. Let one of these programs work. Yeah. But this is a narrative that kids get No ifs, ands, or buts about it. But also people have put And that guy's way ahead in the regular competition. Part of the reason why the world's all fucked is that there are people out there that only deal in numbers. They just did it better and they did it for longer.

2:19:50 And if we decided to become And then they'll be just as fucking rich. Opportunists. And that drives everybody nuts. you're like i'm trying to be less famous like i don't want to do your show to get famous yeah They don't want to wade through that shit to get to that spot. It's not hurting him. and they're just feverishly trying. dangerous and everyone has to forget their blind hatred of Trump right second

2:23:39 is used against someone that you do support? around our government, around our government. You can and also that you can get on the And you could look at California as an example because it only takes like 20,000 signatures to get something on a ballot. What's scary is not him. It's the reaction to him. It's that this, the fact that he is able to brush

2:25:43 There's two or three governors up there. And the Republican Party was freaking out. this is going to work out great for Hillary. That's part of it. They're just very easy to manipulate when you have a guy that is boisterous, has said They have to be convicted of this. Everybody's excited. Like he can't debate Trump. not that's not ideal like ideal was they primary him and Kennedy wins. But then there's all this, there's different people that don't want that primary to take place.

2:29:51 Man, I really think Bobby Kennedy could have won. podcast and he was like an articulate guy. I don't know enough about him. Well, he was an He's a human being, but like a viable candidate, like a guy who would, I think, make a great leader. scenario that you had that you've always said you've been Bernie Sanders the Democratic Party was trying to keep him from fucking ruining the primaries with hit with Hillary

2:32:32 They set up in a very specific way he's all right. just like you either love that But my point is, when you go to this thing, Phones and social media. There's definitely some value over Mama's house people doing negative things, Like there was some post where this lady in canada she just people are getting kicked out. And then it's just kind of like went away.

2:36:44 To see this lady giving a wellion those little surgical masks, But that's what he said. as you know that it doesn't work, we should move to science then. Because if you're saying trust Yeah, they're designed for short periods of time. It was, science was conveniently used. Like, that was a narrative yeah But for the unvaccinated, you're looking at a winter of severe illness and death.

2:39:59 You know. is not true this was that oh nope turns out that is true yeah this is misinformation yeah yeah um They're going to lose because as soon as you lose trust in a news source, it becomes not a news source unless it's telling you what you want to hear. tighten their grip on what we can and can't do have you ever looked uh have you ever seen the

2:42:45 and a lot of technical power and time Oh, you haven't it's amazing. It's a guy in 1984. He's a defector from the KGB it has already begun sure But he did a radio piece on how to destroy America, the social fabric of it. literally probably engineered. And I think that's also what a lot of the climate stuff is. And a lot I'm sure we are. And the only way that we know that we're going to do the right thing over here,

2:45:49 Yep. It's not good, but it also gives us a chance to right the ship. If I were the devil. but I wouldn't be happy until I had seized the ripest apple on the tree. I would convince them that man created God instead of the other way around. I'd threaten TV with dirtier movies, Just let those run wild. And in his own churches, I would substitute psychology for religion and deify science.

2:49:28 and thus i could undress you in public and i could lure you into bed with diseases Wow. You know, I think they said, somebody said, all these things are bad. You're on the right side. You need all of it. But why is that? That term as applied, it's like. you know, if I'm upset at you, when Ronald Reagan got him with that. This guy's a wizard on the computer,

2:52:31 Book was written in the 90s and he talked about the fundamental difference between liberalism and conservatism and the reason that it's destined to to continue moving out to these extremes and that there can't ever be any talking about it from like a a like almost like a religious perspective and good and evil, that it actually manifests itself in physical form

2:55:15 And that all of our motivations for existing and all of our ego and all of our ambition is really just a way to carry that soul as a vessel. That's how life is which is an art, We're just this fucking caterpillar. That's making a cocoon We don't even know what we're doing and we're gonna give birth to this butterfly and that's what the whole human race is about and that's

2:57:51 I'm with you, Dr. Booth. You know, I, these are, again, I'm getting into the realm of conjecture, so I just want You are subject to forces from outside yourself. That is absolutely true. Now, we can argue about what they are, You start bending time. And one of the primary theories about how life got started on Earth is panspermia, which is that amino acids and various building blocks of life come in in asteroids.

3:00:27 that's one quarter the size of the planet itself is forcing you to get that motherfucker online There's nothing. and the skies it's essentially what the bible is trying to say they're just doing it in a way Like, how did they do that? how about that? Yeah. How in the world?? Easter Island. How did y'all make those things? Yeah. This is you're getting things that are translated from a written an oral history of a thousand years

3:04:21 trying to do today. trying to say like what were they trying to say because so much of what they're trying to say? Like, what were they trying to say? Because so much of what they're trying to say, how did they know that back then? Maybe because at one point in time whether it's 10,000 years ago 20,000 years ago. They had figured a lot of this shit out

3:06:14 and the thousands of years of the destruction of the advanced civilizations okay, what is the history of the Bible? Right. What we're getting at in the Bible is just the longest game of telephone of a true story. Yes, and then our version of it is this simplified, uneducated, barbaric version that gets translated from people that are involved in sword fights.

3:08:40 that he, like, what else do you know, bro? a say what you know like what what makes you say that? Yeah. Like, this is happening right now. Oh, yeah yeah this shit just appeared three years ago right and now i i think somewhere maybe it's brazil that and i could be wrong but somewhere And they're definitely not going to be anti-human at all. Have you ever seen those memes?

3:10:47 Don't worry. Because sometimes people put watermarks on them, but oftentimes the people putting the the the memes are for the most part anonymous and you like they're hilarious like some of them the And it's like the amount of people laughing at memes throughout any given day. So you don't even know this See? and cheese. See? Hilarious. Did you see, what's this guy's name? You know that one, Jamie?

3:13:15 Like, fuck climate change, I discovered cock. I'd give them all credit, but they're hilarious. Because I got a shitload of them. Really? You ever think about you're reading the comments on your deal what instagram I'm like, oh, you're a fake person. Just attack. of that argument that's being fueled by people It's part of the whole long game to keep us at each other's throats.

3:16:17 I go, do we do that? that they were instigating people to break into the Capitol, I'm like, possibly. What is that one's like 12 of those dudes were FBI informants. Oh, they like to do that too. It would have been nice. and if you get a hold of those dummies and all thing around. We could take over this fucking country. You can't just allow the same sort of unchecked shit that goes on with everything to go on with that.

3:19:35 That there haven't been any number of things that those guys have had to thwart that they just they won't tell us about can't tell us because it'll give away the fact that they're inside. I'm sure that those guys have, like, red flagged me 85 times. Like, how do you do research for something like Sicario? of a lot of the things that i uncovered i didn't uncover them but they were shown to me like

3:21:33 Like when you talk about major problems that this country has. Like how much money do oil companies make? Think about the fact that illegal drug trade is bigger than big pharma. And all funded because it's illegal. If you're the president of the world and if you have this fucking magic wand, do you even want drugs to be legal? have all that funded by the taxes that you're going to make from selling these things legally,

3:24:18 whatever they call it, schedule one. to convince 20% of the population Like when Elon was on my show and he smoked weed with me, one of the things he said, oh, it is legal, huh? would do coke how many impressionable people that wouldn't do something illegal will now do something Trafficked. It's horrible Now, that's the argument for it being legal and hard to get.

3:27:19 And would you have to deal with propping up this illegal drug regime, You know, you have to look at the desire. I don't think I want to do that. I don't think we can either. it's a 3.3 trillion dollar business the the corruption is undeniable there's always going they got a trunk full of shit. Right. Wouldn't you want? Can't personally own guns. That's interesting.

3:32:03 their parents And I think the Democrats were like, point where you can tell those people, they can be police officers and they can carry guns on duty, They want to be police officers. Yeah. For sure. subversion of our educational institutions. It's, that's a big part of why we have this divide. Like this divide is crazy. Yeah, and and it's not violent when I disagree with you

3:35:31 Right. What the fuck is going on? Anyway, I think we just did like four hours. I really appreciate you. Appreciate you. Thank you.