Joe Rogan Experience #2085 — Charles Wesley Godwin Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. family ties I went damn that's a good fucking song and then we played Q Country Roads and then Duncan Trussell likes my music. fuck yeah. because you know he grew up in asheville and uh he moved there and it was just you know during Oh, no shit. I went there back in, I think I did a gig there in 2015 or 16, magic mushrooms in their shit

3:23 trying to harvest those bad boys. Tourist town Asheville rocked by violence in the wake of defund police movement, is when everything dries up, there's nothing. Yeah, that's happening in my hometown right now. an Israeli company. And once that happened, they shut down this headquarters in Morgantown where it had always been. that affects it's called High Street, is, you know, our main street, it's called High Street,

5:13 Mm-mm. They just up and pulled the factories just so they could make more money, Imagine that little puppy. Well, he didn't know that. There it is right there. Like she's on alone. But, man, compared compared i see all the towns fracking it's kind of confusing because you don't know how much the fracking industry is like oh threshold for like the 6th or 7th

8:44 to provide small... It's not that big. If it was $1,000 a piece, that'd be pretty easy. Yeah, it's like Boomtown. Have you ever seen videos of Detroit from the 1950s and 60s? Yeah. Yeah. I think it was when they did the other show, did it for Amazon. It's a little bit of a loophole. to get it up to code. I think Mike Epps Just like that. if somebody's got something that they

11:30 baseball stadium you know and then compared to years past like you know a while back when i'd buildings that are just completely abandoned the windows are all shattered and covered spray paint 4 000 people in the county now and pendleton county and there's was this local guy, I can't remember his name, He's like, I'm going to Detroit. today trying to use maps. Isn't that funny that like being able to read a map kind of went away?

14:18 the fucking, you're going to take a right on this road, go two miles down the highway, remember first time bill burr visited my house uh he took he had a thomas guide he figured out It had a little flip-up screen. This is Mission Impossible. I was pretty good at it. similar sort of just sensibilities yeah dealing with a lot of clowny shit a lot of clowny shit a lot of fucking

17:32 You don't get a Jelly Roll with a guy who's had, like, a perfect education and a well-rounded lifestyle. We see a guy like Jelly Roll with face tattoos and, like, gold teeth and shit. It's like these communities are sort of colliding with each other, no i didn't see his tiny desk concert fucking amazing amazing Just like he did it he altered the music to fit the vibe of

19:30 Was that one of them? No, no, no. That was Woodstock. I know, right? but it was like Metallica or Korn. I can't believe nobody died in that with all those people moving. Wow. Look at water. Wow. I do that in my shows. You get it from jet skis. It's not like I just feel it, but maybe I ought to stop doing that. No, it's so small. none of that no talent for that at all it's a thing that you either want to do and have to

23:42 like what's his bits like do they have any depth to them? You have a God-given voice. And then realize- How did you find out? Like what, what, what were you doing before you started man, that that's incredible. Maybe I should pick a guitar up. That'd be something I can do happen and it became free time because you know so i just had to try to fill that time up with something because i just didn't want to sit around and and bullshit with my friends all the time and

26:59 And I got a finance degree at WVU. or singing in front of anybody, but I didn't want to like not play the guitar for half a year so it'd be way worse if i bitched out and didn't go up and play one so i went up and played like a song courtyards in the middle of the building you know what i mean you ever been in a place like that Oh, Jamie found it. Yeah.

30:09 I made 150 euro. They're so strange. I think if I remember right, I might have played at that cafe a couple more times, maybe Wow. And that's how it began. Watching yourself When did you start writing your own original songs? I started trying to do it when I really made the decision that I wanted to do this. for, you know, just kind of, Do you just start playing the guitar and start singing?

33:51 years ago i listened to jason isbel was given kind of some advice on it and he said you know It is. Yeah, if you don't, and for me, if I don't show up to the notebook and put my time in and come up with a bunch of junk. Yeah. Make sure that's true. The Greek form museum meant the seat of the muses. We were driving down from Dallas this morning listening to Willie Nelson's autobiography,

36:59 It was an interesting idea on it. And that train of thought helps you when you go, when you're in a rut. Yeah. Just do that. And then I had a band that was dependent upon me. And then you'll have those dark moments, but then you come out of it and you're like, oh, I'm all right again. and we'll be fine. I know. My young me was an idiot. yeah life is

41:01 Life is short. loss of businesses, everybody fucking at each other's throats. But on the other side of it, no idea until, until we went through it. I didn't. Yeah, that's wild. Now he's like, all right, like you can see it on his face. Yeah, these guys are trying to take over this armored truck. And this house is insane. But Cape Town is so riddled with crime

45:57 waiting for you and then she'd be in her underwear waiting for you to fuck. Look at this video. Look at these photos, man. Yeah, she's like, the violence is just crazy. and, I mean, it looked incredible for him. back it was like during antones yeah that's right and there was a shooting that night ended up being I mean, I would imagine everybody has to be armed.

48:21 Yeah, if I were her dad, I'd be doing something about that. Dude, I got... store that's they're in jail for selling weed that's a damn shame fuck dude he still says he's innocent yeah he shot her look he shot through a fucking door there's a lot of home invasions in an area like where my friends in la are telling me like i have And then I hadn't talked to him for like six months.

51:42 terrible for you it is unfortunate but you the the flip side is people are want to do things that are terrible for you. It is unfortunate, but You would have more deaths. So that would drop. There's a bunch of different things that could be set up to mitigate that. drugs and it's it's fucking dangerous he's like you can't approach them can't go anywhere near

54:18 He said, uh, one of his best friends, who's also a rancher, got a bunch of feds rolled property oh you know i bet the feds were They're doing it again and stuff. There's a lot more illegal aliens every year coming in. Because if you're a person from another country, say if you're in Europe and you want to come to America and become an American citizen, you know, you're an architect or whatever, this is like a long, lengthy process.

57:33 he gets $2,000. you know, when there's, you set up uh because back in the day you know when there's At least they got a name. then when my grandparents came here, but that was the law back then. This is not the law. Mm-hmm. It's just insane. Let's go. Like back to the COVID thing. you know, Well, I didn't want to lose it. A lot of people did a lot of very positive things

1:01:17 Taking unemployment. and COVID cut the legs out from under that so on the other side of that is really where you know And I'd just gotten a new day-to-day manager You have to cut half these guys, and even then, we're going to have a hard time making it. worked you know the album it did great and we made the most of our opportunity getting to open that

1:04:29 the failed attempts better life that's a better life the the life of fear and the life of regret that's a terrible life They got something. It's probably 1,000. man. She's good. Like she, she could, she's funnier than me. Like, she's funny, man. and it'd be like, look at her go. I remember the first time I watched him on stage. Hard road to go. that's fine by me.

1:07:33 Yeah, everybody loves, God damn it, And everybody I grew up with knew I was trying to do it. But, you know, that's something that, you know, So, you know, why to go for it. Yes. Because you already went for this other thing back in the past. So, you know, why not go for it? I got to buckle up and get better. It's like a motivational tool. You feel like shit, right?

1:09:45 Yep, you can't be resting on those laurels, you know. driving my old Highlander to gigs, things that i ever you know learned from somebody else was that just to get get that out of my head they're way back at the beginning and just have that like healthy mindset going into you know That's their success. It's so valuable and instead people piss that fuel away as jealousy and bitterness

1:12:40 The exact same experience where someone is killing it can be fuel for you, even if you don't like that person. But you know what, man? to embrace it's huge yeah and I think that, I don't know if I would have made it. It was very much the famine mentality. shows that I got to play and open for somebody, um, you know, traveling and show to show with them

1:16:06 know that allowed me to get my feet on the ground and start building a good loyal following and you were the three that were like you know william was the first and then ward was the you know ward And Wyatt can't be opening for me now. it's great for him man that is cool. And that is where that mentality comes in, and, like, we're good. It really does.

1:18:40 Maybe Taylor Swift. I bet there's been some shit. It's like there's Michael Jackson, The Beatles, Elvis. And then there's a stadium of people outside the stadium. jay giles band maybe maybe it was georgeogood. It was like George Thorogood and Destroyers. to blame. You give love a bad name. Pow! And everybody goes, wah! And they're all excited and you feel their excitement and everyone's happy and it's all, everyone's together in that fucking, yeah.

1:21:51 together the travel breaks you down do you do anything to keep the travel from breaking you trying to keep my kids are in daycare. you come out of that And kind of like everything's the same except I don't, that afternoon, like, I could take a nap. It just has a giant factor in whether or not you can recover. So this will be my first year in the bus.

1:23:43 Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think, you know, And then, you know, sleeping in a rollout mat in the back of my car, you know, behind venues. You kind of got to. It's fun. Yeah. It's great. Have a few beers, throw a few shots back. Woo. Have a little party. You have this fucking incredible gift, this amazing voice, I don't know. I did it my way, but when he was younger it was just like this insane voice like

1:26:50 Here it is. of lie. Saying that he promised her marriage and then broke up with her. Even so, the state of New Jersey arrested Sinatra and charged him with adultery after learning that they couldn't nab him with seduction. the earliest i've listened to him is maybe the 40s so maybe i if he was singing in the in the your throat he left 29 broken hearts that's different. Yeah. Yeah.

1:30:04 Being on television was new. He's the fucking man right think back then that's all new you know being on television was new he's the it's weird like why you have a desk? And you got this guy sitting there at a desk, and next to him, it's a couch. No, he was the man. Kind of like Letterman's Netflix like the netflix show that he persona yeah somebody if you're in a theater and you're doing an interview.

1:32:48 Smokebox. he had me blasted there yeah it's it can get it can get tricky and i'm sure jamie johnson can because it was so ridiculous. That's Snoop? So he's sitting there talking to you, and he's just like, we're talking about shit, and he's just rolling blunts and he rolls his own blunts so he's sitting there talking to you and he's just like we're talking about shit he's just rolling blunts yeah he had a sound machine with him had like lights

1:34:30 Who would have ever thought that that teaming would work, that that pair would work? in the senate they i wonder what happened why they went after her like that i wonder what the Look at her. It's a dangerous thing to some people. And all you have to do is just not eat shit. But that's not what people want. It's hard not to just fatten up. You have to have healthy choices like something that you can that

1:36:50 Let's have some vitamins, drink some water. When did they do that? It might have been 2013. Yeah. how are we still doing this in 2024? people will stop and, So if you're flying to the airport, you're like, all right, I don't want to get caught. and that was like a thing that our tour manager was telling all the guys, Why would you bring it with you?

1:39:25 like it good there's a lot of things i don't like it doesn't mean it should be illegal we have family land that I'll always, Yeah, I love it, man. Where even in Nashville, it's not that, Yeah, you know, and it's great. It's just that's where I'm comfortable. they want you to invest in So, yeah, it's nice back home you run into on the day to day. You should know.

1:43:13 They're just trying to, like, figure out a way to get close to you, I had to have a conversation with this guy. I can't push. And I go, Hey man, I'm hoping you run it right. Not interested. Yeah, I'm thinking about maybe switching. Yeah. There's something I was like, I would kind of tell myself in the last handful of years, cherry pick some you know some good ones they're They were down here in Texas with me in October.

1:46:11 navigate those waters and you know with with samantha my wife like trying to yeah trying to but they're also getting thrown onto tables 260 days a year it's like some of them were doing 250 260 days a year but they're also getting thrown Oh, yeah, all those guys. With Prince, it was just all that dancing, going on with your neck right now yeah it's just head banging and stuff like that when i'm playing

1:48:36 They'll shoot you up with stem cells in your neck. yeah my buddy zach mccord and i wrote that for our dads that's a great song yeah both of our and then sometimes there'd just be this guy that was a landowner back in the day So he was at that unique time where there was still some of that old-time stuff, and then, you know, it was transitioning into the modern day mines,

1:51:08 and automatically be already 10,000 feet underground because of the height of the mountain above them. They weren't doing that by hand. Oh, yeah, they're huge. Wow. the way to like wetzel county like over close to the ohio river they're huge wow and and these massive ceilings and have lights in there and everything yeah i got you know lights and guys

1:53:13 250 years before. would, check... 1962. Well, it sounds like- Whoa. West Virginia. 10,000 acres of mines. Oh, those are strip mines. you know it allowed him to to you know elevate himself economically and does he have lung ever read the book rocket boys no by a Homer Hickam and then they made the I think. like when people are talking about, You know, it's, yeah.

1:57:41 day where coal probably becomes a thing of the past and isn't used anymore. I watched a video of a coal mine collapsing in China, shit yeah and um one of them was this insane coal explode. This is it. This is it. They're dead. Minimal in comparison to what's going on over there. Mm-hmm, and they're not gonna stop they don't give a fuck to push plant-based meat and a bunch of other bullshit and and that's why it's it's important

2:00:42 Why is anybody listening to that guy either, by the way, when it comes to public health? People were coerced, and then it didn't even work. And then you realize like, oh, there's a lot of motivation that they have to scare the shit out of you. And it's not even true. They're not doing good already. My friend's grandpa had some horrible disease, and he didn't have COVID.

2:03:08 Exactly. Scary what happened the where my wife and i talked about it and we drew the hard line with our Yeah. Yeah. You get over it just fine. What did Tim Kennedy say? My kids shit it out in a day. that I was supposed to do with Chappelle. We were doing shows that weekend. We got to Big range of things. supplementation forever. So when I get sick, I get over it quick quick if i got sick at all and the only reason i got sick

2:06:28 Yeah. tired i was just beaten up from playing pool to three thirty in the morning and then we were wow, you corrupt cocksuckers. You don't give a shit about health. If you did, you'd be saying, Oh, yeah. They're going for Joe. And then just kept, you know, you guys aren't talking at all about the all cause mortality spike that's unprecedented? How They don't care about death.

2:09:48 And they're incentivized, especially the Sackler family. you know, I had Peter Berg on who made that,. Oh, okay. He's amazing. And he explained it, what they did. who just got devastated by that shit and they're they're still struggling to this day yeah try to get off of it did a good job of like showing the reality of it and what it does if you talk to emts that shit

2:12:31 we haven't had to use it yeah we haven't had anybody overdose during a show but we did have I don't know if they do. it's there i'm in therapy getting therapy you're just getting blasted with ketamine all day these No. And it's like whatever the fuck happens when you take ketamine and meanwhile Adventure Time, right? The Night Gospel. Yeah. yeah we uh when we built the mothership that was the goal I never thought it would work as well as

2:15:51 been exposed to too many conspiracies i went too far down the jfk rabbit hole and the 9-11 rabbit about most things. Alex is just, unfortunately, he occasionally goes down the wrong road and he did What are they going to do? You were like that's too caricature ish. You know one's going to be that obvious, dress up like Darth Vader, talk in a German accent,

2:17:43 You shouldn't do this. did was in front of like 14 000 people did it like a farmer's market yeah incredible incredible well, people are saying that if I don't act now, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I go, for whatever they're, Don't do it. Richmond, north of Richmond, You don't need nobody. to surround yourself with. 34 years, I think.

2:20:35 Exactly. Yeah. He's going to be fine. It was beautiful. This guy was smoking too much weed, drinking all the time, wasting his life, because i'm not yeah i'm not sure it seems like he's kind of like a messenger like something Yeah. You just can't. yeah it's coming from something it's coming from something somewhere yeah there's so many parts of And I think it helps me, helps me navigate, you know, I have faith and go to church, and I think it helps me navigate, you know.

2:24:43 I think there's something to that. Sure. because we've been how to get a hold of you anybody would want to find I love that dude, too. Let it go. I didn't get it then conversation But he's proud of his