Joe Rogan Experience #2101 — Bret Weinstein Transcript

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0:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! it's beautiful birds chirping while who knows what lies in the horizon I did not I mean obviously the game is what it is Well, I have to say I was watching it and I you know, I didn't have a dog in the fight Just I want you to imagine Ronald Reagan if social media was alive It's kind of amazing that the left can't meme because they're really bad at it because

4:08 left, but I don't relate to these people at all. discussed with us. You know what I've seen you do in your club, right, where in your club, you can actually structure a joke that isn't B out onions the onion. The onion is essentially dormant. The onion was like the dominant force And so the fact that it's been neutered makes perfect sense if you imagine whoever it is

7:45 It doesn't want one that's heavily constrained. Because you're seeing the government actively campaign to get factual information removed And they wouldn't take it down, but they limited the reach substantially by like 50%. But they had ruled that they Like, what the hell? In what way? One is as a means of exchange. to be able to recover it after whatever happens. I would recommend people, I hope I have the title right, there's a book called

12:15 You actually own an IOU which can be valueless. hmm Is it central bank digital currency? Even if you take a human being, for example, you're composed of something like 30 trillion cells of is the game, the evolutionary game that is being played. And humans play it social entities and to societies. reckoning coming. Let's explain what we're talking about.

17:15 first of all, farms are always very difficult to run. use, to limit the amount of animals they have. where they can actually sequester carbon in the soil and make these farms carbon neutral. that, cripple the farmers's ability to make money, Right. But if you take the objective of the game as profit, it's not exactly clear what the end game is. And when people panic, especially people with limited resources and limited financial

20:42 like unpasteurized dairy as if that was some major threat to people naturally resist immoral orders, creating a more compliant force. and doing all these things to protest made any sense. And I think most people fundamentally recognize that farming is not just difficult, couple century old lens, it would be a suicidal move. But that's not the case anymore. You're dealing

25:00 think or behave or feel because they've been famous and wealthy for so long and adored but the problem is they also And the tendency for them to see the part of the puzzle that they're comfortable with, right, If I thought that they were diabolical but knew what they were doing, then my sense is, Is it coming from a place where they never feel like they're ever going to go back to

27:59 spreading. Right, right? So these new power elites, they don't have a mechanism that overcomes the control that You're screwing up the world and it's not yours to destroy You know, it's like, what do you really believe and why are you saying what you're saying and for and scream and protest and block the highway for. It's a great mechanism in that regard.

31:36 What was it, Jamie? Doesn't mean that there's not some underlying truth there, but if I look good point, you know where And then you look at the emission standards that were enacted If they had the same regulations that they enacted in Los Angeles, that would lead to And, you know, how much does your life expectancy go down because of the amount of pollutant

33:54 You moved from the frying pan right into the fire, sir. But but the point is Oregon actually has regulations that you can't register your car if it puts out to find the thing to turn off the vent, right? Enthusiast I love automobiles the automobiles today that have the best emissions output are The electric ones problematic. Here's why the electric ones problematic. At the

36:12 like hammering this stuff out, mining with babies on their back. in it at all. They want to make the most amount of money right now in the best living in the most abject poverty you can imagine, the worst poverty on earth, but yet a coordinated fashion in that direction because it's in all of our interest to do so. whether or not this is a normal pattern of behavior for human beings when they have ultimate

39:21 if the people are down just enough, you don't want them down to the point where they're going to fight back and kill everybody? I think it is. Right? look like a strategy that is going to effectively spread over time. I hate to use the term growth, do it, that putting aside monarchs altogether, giving people the right to consent or not Yeah, my sense is they accidentally solved the most important puzzle because they needed

43:22 wealth. That's magic. If you're limited to your own racial group in order to make wealth, then the amount of And art, innovation, everything. these systems. John Green Well, it's just nonsense. if everybody but just treated everybody as normal. right? to push the idea that, you know, fat is beautiful, that you're somehow morally defective if you're not attracted

47:48 That's what I think. He gets a little wacky. completely overpay for Twitter and then have the advertisers lock him out and literally Go fuck yourself. Like he makes memes he posts memes like when you post that meme of Bill Clinton excuse me of Bill Gates I don't know if it was the New York Times, but it might as well have been. Listen, regardless of how nonsensical some of the stuff that they print is, I still have

50:48 people that were watching and there's no dynamic personalities that people appreciate and respect So when you're seeing something like the New York Times tweet that posts things that are where people are wearing winter jackets. You fuckheads. It's really not. The real mainstream is online. to get out into the world and some of them are going to make it and they're going to

53:34 especially if they take your fucking medical advice. social media platforms, then the world looks a particular way because certain stories that should be discussed can't be discussed. stabilizing itself outside of the control, every other Can you expand on the structure of the architecture that you think is? It's very hard to convey that to anybody

56:15 I was tweeting about what even... climbing a trend. I expected to see that interview and my participation in it trend And if you went to the tweets in the trend, Farv. He is. So here's what happened. I think that what happened to put it this intersection, I could trend under his category. Do I think Musk has put a block on me training? You're going to get those kids that are subject to the same social pressures that all the other kids that are getting out of universities and

1:00:15 Yeah Like, something's going on here. I'm like how are you responding to me? How do you have the fucking time? How do you do that? I can't keep up Is he aware of this dilemma? We had a very good discussion. I've never had an account hijacked. but you can imagine in my shoes, Behavior on Twitter, which I didn't know if that was relevant or not and He blocked me and I'm blocked to this day, which seems strange.

1:03:56 it was his obligation to pay attention to me personally, obviously I Think it's obvious that he is trying to save the world and he's with his account before he bought Twitter. Well, let's put it this way if that was the if issue, all he needed to say is, hey, Brett. Right, even that. place that seems very much like a cult. and I would like you to consider that we know that government interference in social media discourse, whether it is our government or whether it's foreign governments that want

1:07:35 I love to go into the accounts and see what the most ridiculous people like what they're saying and then go to their page and it's usually like a gonna drink that beer and go what the fuck is wrong with this beer? might listen to what their take is on something and go, I never considered that. I have to, I was, I was, the reason why I got to this recently, there was some article,

1:09:56 But my instincts are that the fucking name and three numbers behind it and the way they're tweeting about stuff bullshit What's okay, and what's not okay shifts? have sex with a biological male who identifies as a woman, somehow or another you're a Nazi And on the other hand, I find a kind of hope in this. themselves if you have that kind of information. And they just simply do and

1:12:59 circulating during the COVID pandemic. Well, there's a second faction that says it wasn't SARS-CoV-2. Right. I don't think so, and here's why I don't think so. Let's put it this way. It was flu or worse severity. So the basic pattern is this. I didn't, but I did talk to Pierre Corrie about it and there was no reason to think Cycle thresholds on PCR so there are ways to create the impression of a

1:16:34 And we know that they were played, that people who died of things that had nothing to do what is the infighting in the COVID community? So, I can't really explore that evidence because I'm not well-versed in it. we think it is. I think these people are completely nuts. that, or the other syndrome is something micrographs. You've got scanning and transmission. And then you have various tricks to increase the ability

1:20:14 You have to then figure out if that particle is absent from people who don't have the symptoms You can say, well, that's the result of HIV. you can falsify the idea that HIV So AIDS is a syndrome, which just means a collection of symptoms that occur together. And if your mind resists that, realize that decreased his own historical importance. on it.

1:24:50 know AZT kills people, you're taking someone who has a compromised immune system and your response Why strangely? Just because of the timing? Have you ever seen this piece of video where What is it about humanity that wants to go to all the details and stuff? what's going on the bottom. You know, those guys have got an agenda, which is not what in this century because the science is being judged by people.

1:28:04 I mean, I've had a lot of people, President of the University of South Carolina, ask about Yeah, so that's a pretty wild piece of- See if you can find it, just so we know. resistance to something like this and would be vocal about it. That's your Huckleberry. by getting one of these inoculations. Okay. No. Issues are uploads of that video, but I'm trying to figure out how to find out when the discussion was right. Okay. So anyway, the reason I raised him was that the first place

1:31:40 So that was when that conversation was, wow, that's crazy. of a disease that was chemically triggered, There was no independent journalism. So you were saying that journalism would survive. has driven out and but they couldn't reproduce the power of a newsroom that could send people all over the world and actually report the story. And people like Tucker.

1:35:40 most important asset and All of these things are involved in some battle over control that confuses us because we think saying this on Fox. And if you have a corporation like Fox, which is this longstanding conservative news organization What about Sean Hannity? this stuff. But the fact is there is a mechanism. because there is a place you can go And it's interesting to see how you can infer the control that

1:39:22 Well said. And it's one of the reasons why positive influences and great things rise, because they're in And this is, if this battle didn't exist, maybe we wouldn't get as far as we're going They're a part of a group that's trying to push a narrative in a very specific direction. Most people's lives are filled with things that they have to do, obligations, family,

1:41:45 Yeah, I think you're pointing to exactly the right thing. the certainty with which I'm going to have to embrace loaded with information that is surprisingly good about what these The reason that that makes a difference to people is because the ability to mislead is off message it's not going to work. Like the least produced, the less there's some involvement,

1:45:07 yeah but people smell it right they smell the bullshit like this really is a but one of the things that's working very much for us is the fact that in terms of the equipment you need to do it and consequence, anything involving a pandemic. You would be kicked off. people off the platform, demonetize them so you incentivize them to self-censor. So it looks to me like the World Health Organization is setting us up for a rematch in which we cannot do what

1:48:45 They keep changing its name so it's hard to search on. to censor in order to make the campaign work Who's voting on this? on by your elected governments. So his point is you've already, you've elected governments that should block this Have they suffered any worldwide decrease in respect or whether or not people value their Well, that's good if that's the case. A huge global effort to draw up rules around who does

1:52:32 wasn't having the same effects and also the way they report things is very different than us and the ability to create vitamin D. trials that were designed to fail and yet did not. There are numerous different routes say it didn't work show that it does. know how to read them. And that it halts viral reputation in vitro. And the most important part about this for people that are unaware is that it's generic.

1:56:33 It was obscene. and we will never be rid of it now. cost them untold billions of dollars if they don't achieve emergency use gotten the emergency use authorization for the so-called vaccines. and this doctor was, how to go to court over this, something like half of them and one the others and the people on whose behalf he Right? So that's amazing. Which is all the same factor. It's all really just it limits the amount of

2:02:42 It has a number of different translated into protein by ribosomes, and those proteins the mRNA into cells of yours. have subclinical damage. They never had a symptom, but if we look at their hearts And the official line was they did not want the people giving the shots to aspirate the They said don't do that, and the reason that they said don't do that is because the amount of time that the needle is in your arm

2:07:03 circulated immediately because it went into I think that's actually pretty unlikely. But between the variation between the doses, Consequence was being discussed and our point was look has this ever been you could have injected it wherever it was least likely Right, I mean, if there's anything like that, It could get to my heart. beyond any natural level. Then yeah, maybe they were doing everything in their

2:10:17 To me, the degree to which they told you And I have come to think that the story of COVID, nanoparticle. So we were at this idea of able to process it? Or do you think it's a combination of that and duds? And we do know their lifespan, right? If you got the damage in your liver and not your heart, In like six to eight weeks. The heart, you damage it. Obviously, if you damage it critically it it'll take you out and if you

2:16:08 damage to limit their lifespans. Yeah, that's it. happened, your ability to protect yourself from further harm is greatly reduced. We have Of course, clearly. But the way in which the people who knew the But the Johnson and Johnson, they pulled. But then they reinstated it, but then they slowly discontinued it right so the short answer to your question is I

2:19:50 of getting a benefit from them. This is back in the day we were testing every day here. I had it for a day, the two days afterwards It's just you and me wearing headphones at dinner. Yeah, so Alex wound up coming on by himself. I don't understand. He's been pretty good on And also to highlight his particular case, which is still ongoing. Two days feeling like shit. And then...

2:23:38 even when you were sick. Yep. Right. Now, I want to be cautious about all of the complexity here because I'm not saying least I want to be open to that possibility. I don't think they ended up being useful for COVID nearly at all, right? I'm not saying they did, but I'm But I'm just saying, if you were going to try to figure the idea of mRNA based gene therapy. That

2:27:39 is that the very nature of the mRNA platform is that it allows you to take a genetic message that every vaccine that already exists. They can create a new one on the mRNA platform. They because the only distinction between this shot The mRNA platform allows a whole new kind of medicine to be delivered in a very itself. because it's bioactive in its own right. It is cytotoxic, which I stupidly, I was fact checked by stupid

2:31:03 And what are the other conversations that they've had in terms of the use of the platform? But how can you use the same terminology as a different thing? that has been pretty standard for a long time. You know, young Jamie's little buddy over there. It's not a disease you want to die of. We talked about it the other day. body to have more resources to attack the virus and stop it in its tracks.

2:33:26 But what were you talking about? the mRNA platform is a mechanism for turning yourselves into factories of So, I don't know, to my way of thinking, I'm sure it's cartoonish, but I can imagine I think of the world so much differently than I did four years ago We're kind of like hearing people talk inside a building behind a large gate You know, we don't really have access to the actual conversations

2:36:19 that predicts it who's going to be the the guy that reads the data and tells the world what And if you've got a fucking computer that you run and you're in charge of the AI that The people who count the votes do. is not necessary, that's bananas. that out into the world and say, I should represent you because I have an you've organized that They hid it under the guise of a vaccine to prevent against diseases and they were giving

2:39:41 But I think if we take your point from earlier, at which you get in the right direction. is must be frightening to them. Which is wild. All these rich people. The people had to go to the way back machine and pull No, but that's got to be something. It's wild Goddamn it forget. It was a great fucking movie great dead zone. Yeah And it's in the middle of all this,

2:43:43 like an exaggerated frown where he's got a, he's got this thing going on, like an exaggerated frown where many people that see it there's too many people that aren't doing well that are You you won't nothing everything's fine. It's his superpower. Did you hear that his age is his superpower and all the craziness, opinion age matters, which This is, oh, this is four months ago?

2:46:03 I wouldn't say I find it on the Twitter We have the best three-year record of any modern American presidency. he's already got the call. So that woman that you just saw in the corner, there's one of I'm old school, talk about loyalty. No one thinks a politician talks like that. and I know the president is stepping down I'm filling a guy a bone. wants to be president. But bro, talk to some regular people. That's not how you could say

2:48:54 You're in a fucking James Cagney movie. And then maybe we'll talk. Biden's cognitive decline. That's not real. I don't think that's real. I don't see Biden's cognitive decline. I've seen these headlines today. I actually think we have to. constitutionality of our system. Newsom would be competing against Kamala Harris, who he doesn't have the same respect for,

2:52:07 What are you going to do, Mr. President? Any minute that he's there compounds the problem. Right. The olden days. Pushing anyone who's not going along with the plan whether it's Tulsi Gabbard whether it's Robert F. Kennedy Jr RFK saying things where people accuse him. And the fact that they're not begging him to run as a Democrat is proof that they would

2:55:11 is even capable of having a debate at this point. Whatever the fuck he likes to do. We shouldn't be in that position. It's aging an already aged man Because I think Newsom is like, I think the whole Democratic party will embrace him. The amount of tense now that you see is fucking nuts. is the blue no matter who mentality of the people that live in that state.

2:58:05 liquidate the credibility into a, you know, a brief pursuit of high profits, right? The idea that experience this caravan or some groups of... Yeah, I saw the migration in the Darien of Panama, it is time for them to go. They have to leave. The idea that Newsom is going to be swapped in That said, do I expect it to go that way? I think he is deeply patriotic and I know from interacting

3:01:27 I'm no libertarian, but I felt very welcome there. I gave a talk Bobby Kennedy also showed up and gave a talk And I wish I was certain that once in office, Bobby Kennedy had the power and the insight fucked over by this weird system and you and I totally get their concerns. I really do. Well, let's put it this way. He has demonstrated that he has the capability to win. I'm very compelled that he is not

3:05:01 address it seriously. Trump, A, he only has four years to accomplish the job. believe things that weren't true. conversations with really brilliant intelligent people where I know they're saying nonsense if you're looking at a guy who's trying to gather points It's the wrong temperament for the job. God damn, do we really want not getting. Even he's saying that that, first of all, that that's not off the table and that now

3:08:28 we still have to get whatever that cabal is far prefer him to another standard bearer of that cabal. So Panama is a place I'm familiar with but Michael Yon It is a famously difficult obstacle. been told by the international community that they should come across the migration of Chinese immigrants that looks different, feels different, and is They're skipping some of the worst parts of it, traveling by boat.

3:12:52 They would be curious about Americans. We met Afghans, people from Iran, Yemen, all over the world. in play, right? that this is a ploy to create I think that's a very frightening prospect, but I didn't invent the idea. It has been discussed. And the problem is that, with the rights of being an American, military is citizens. orders to the military, but I'm convinced that the

3:18:14 So if you imagine, in my naive state a few years ago, And then you have the idea that migrants might be granted citizenship in exchange for military I believe it has been raised by at least one senator. Jesus Christ Given the number of things that don't add up, this begins to explain but it has an obvious interpretation. through their eyes. And I would want somebody who was in a position to look

3:21:24 And how high it is in 2023. Oh, and then you have a green card. if you look at Google's commitment to censorship, It's happening. by the use of the term vaccine, so we didn't spot the horror of the mRNA shots early enough. We have this reflex of imagining that, you know, doesn't, it means that when you're looking at the people in power and you're saying, oh,

3:24:55 and if they do know, they don't necessarily care, right? Well, listen, I really appreciate you coming on. I really, really appreciate that, Joe.