Joe Rogan Experience #2126 — Donnell Rawlings Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Breeze drifting on by, you know how I feel. It's a new dawn. I think it looks great. How do you do it? Do you spray it and walk through it? I spray it, walk through it, and So I got here 20 minutes earlier I'm going through a transition. Shout out to Dick Wolf. I've been in every... When I first began in my career, people really thought I was

2:57 What'd I do this time? Law and order special victims unit to organize crime three And that was like, and I think like in 2000. But everybody is more interested in the bad guy more than anything. In what way? The model for a lot of people now is like, At the end of day if you can do that whether people like you or not you win you're creating problems, creating problems in your own life, even as you get attention, like be careful what you wish for. Cause if you know, you're creating problems, creating problems in your own life,

6:00 they don't have a conscience to even care about that. I just don't think it's necessary. That's a very unfortunate thing. I because I think that creates a You gave me that motherfucking joint too quick. and not beneficial to you in your life. You've always been this calm. I was watching this dude on stage It wasn't very there was there wasn't a lot of camaraderie between like the open time, that it was like, it wasn't very,

9:38 I never, I never felt that way. And I probably shared this, I used to heckle comedians And the thing was, it was starting to build, You know, I just destroyed them. That is so insane. And then the audience, people really started coming all the people that for my job used to come, It was never that. by that, eventually you're going to get the rewards of that. I never was like, I'm going

13:15 Honest man Joe black words I'm not gonna have know the history of it. You might want to Google. Joan him. You get the first half. I get the rest. Let me say, I'll take the second half. The joke on the nigga. In the moment, you look at that person up and down want to say something. You never felt like yes I just want to say I want to And me and Tracy Morgan started comedy about the same time.

16:33 That would be so, you talk about something I guarantee you, Joe, if you had 20 mediocre comedians, but what, what, what out of your materials bullshit. If you have to do it in front of Man, I don't know if there's a funnier person Yo, he's like the white Morgan Freeman of comedy. I can't remember a time when he has it went on stage with the mindset. I'm working on some new shit always

19:10 but what I was gonna say is that it tells the best example because what he did was he quit drinking and then I saw that. he's nice as shit at it. He's fun to hang out with. relaxing place where everybody can hang out together but he's you know he's an That's hilarious. That's just how they used to do Hollywood, man. And so he was the producer and if you're gonna be

22:07 I do know you have some women like this, look, no disrespect to actors, like there was a real clean look But not too many of them are good though. What it wouldn't work the other way you couldn't get a guy to do just stand up and just be fucking great That he's a basketball player. That he's not just a basketball player, he's a basketball player that's ripping off Adam Sandler, it's very realistic. That he's a basketball player?

24:20 I'm not hating what I'm trying to explain. In trouble, all right, you can't watch it He's doing this thing where he's involved in gambling addiction. They're they're both they're all just making crazy bets basketball that was certainly not my words I know it's not your words but the Joe Rogan was hatin' on Cameron Garnett! Said the niggas shouldn't act, they should just play basketball!

26:28 Like that's the most, I mean, it's, Yeah, I still think it's something inside of you inside of you as an actor that takes you above the person because you are getting all this adoration Who the fuck am I? I'm gonna have a great day. or more challenging as a stand-up development new material? there's a moment, this is the scariest part for me. and that silence, quiet,

29:50 because you have to repeat these words in that order. I had did HBO's The Corner, all that stuff. I went into an interview, I went to an audition for The Wire. He's an incredible, incredible fuckin' theater actor. "'You'll be okay.'" Four days later, I swear, sometimes you do an audition, I was just saying anything He was like, man, thanks for being part of it.

32:51 you threw the lines away, right? They want to see who is this person not being high. Like if you, but if you do that. We'll work through them together. We'll go over things but in the end but one thing that's always resonated and I got like $30,000 of, And I just said, I'm gonna do a little improv, right? Everybody laughed but then it was like, nah,

36:17 that I don't have that pressure of having to book a role. I mean, you know, get it? that just stopped. I was sick during the pandemic I was so happy that shit was over because I got sick of these writers that we never heard about because of the pandemic or another pandemic, Tyler Pearl, it was a story maybe like three weeks ago, and I think he was in the middle

38:16 like a short film. All these scenes supposedly, I guess, are made by Sora. So this is all That's pretty well made. And this is not the right thing to say of the agency out and they're gonna go straight So sitcoms were number one. have drastically been reduced. And it was, this is like, you probably heard this, and it's a conversation when it comes When you say comedian, you just associated with it.

41:42 they'd like this you know what and those guys are six figures other than just making money off of it, you know? to get to a certain level, at whatever level? Today, people are getting good at knowing algorithms. I wanna say manipulate, but that's the wrong word. dumping money into his product and he figured out exactly where the algorithms that really made sense.

45:06 And if you really thought about it that way, you like, you sending your tape in No, it's not. Showed motherfuckers something you could do today A lot of people are doing it. think Mike Epps, there's a lot of them like popping up and I think that's the dope thing. can even give you some tips. Other comics can watch you. They see you working the door.

47:56 They can punch out, go run down the street to a set, a club is if they could run fucking seven nights a week well it's um you know it was the perfect if you drive 28 miles an hour, Wow. Is there anything you haven't heard, Joe? But you asked me about this suit but it's just something about, And I remember, and I was really getting stressed when the clubs still had all this COVID protocol.

50:46 I think it was a Fillmore Theater, 600, 700 people. you gotta put a black curtain. I'm like, motherfucker, ain't no time to shoot this. A week after that announcement, Dave calls me, he says, Don-el I want to shoot your special over. I'm like you know that's the most insulting thing. You tell a It was tough because I'm like, oh, this shit was during a pandemic.

52:59 you could block all this negative, all the haters out. once a year where the whole fucking world You don't want to take away freedom from people. When you make somebody do something, Everything is dead. but it's a disease that killed people with, which is not to say that, because you shouldn't, you know, We did those shows there. We were hanging out.

55:55 Even when we saw each other, it was like, oh shit. It'll be 24 people. That was right. I got it. I got it quick, too. Well, a lot of people can. I think if you were an old person and it was the first go around of COVID, it probably would help Was there anything that caused? Everybody. it was like, Don-El, you got the jab twice. And he couldn't work you couldn't work you couldn't work. I know some people made it

1:00:10 most tight. idea to just round people up and make them go to camps because they're sick. maybe for older people, it protected them from being in contact with people that would them and not to make some sort of a correction and that doesn't make any So many more people that become alcoholics. I think we had to do something. more by money than taking care of people.

1:04:01 That's their business. AI is going to. Well here's the thing, if they really want complete total control, they'll trick you But somebody has to be in control of what you ask. to make better versions of itself. It's not going to be as simple as you made a thing, Like we didn't even think about AI being a threat How are people? Well, we're not. around the funnel and at the bottom it gets faster and faster. That's how exponential

1:08:42 What we there's nothing we'll be able to do to control it. We are fucked. They're already having them work as kitchen assistants, where they talk to you in your and where you used to go in those places, I'm so old Joe that when I see where I remember when thinking about George Jetson my mindset was like That's why, Joe that's why I fuck with the woods. Yeah. That's why Joe, I said fuck Hollywood,

1:10:19 Just call whoever the fuck you want. God. Yes. but at some point you gotta say no. -"What, the parties?" Joe, you don't know about these parties. No. The bottom line, man. Most people have more fun with the devil than with God Kinnison did it. And I want people to fuck with God, but don't fuck with God. I don't use God for shit like that. I would never be like, oh God, oh God, it's 12 o'clock. I hope

1:14:51 They fuck with people to fuck with God but don't fuck with God Joel. Come on, man. be part of it or to understand it, and I don't think that's the case. the type of energy that I would fuck with. what is the possibility that one grand creator has this insane connection to everything that Devil has the best parties, but then after a while, we about to have this banging ass party.

1:17:57 Yeah. Fuck I Out of nowhere? you're anticipating Some people have bad days, I don't wanna judge you Well, you have so many links in this email remember we used to in the background. shit. as an option when someone calls you. Mmm couldn't pick up you had to let them know I got music in the background of my shit. Mm because it's a good way to say hi because if I'm driving to work or

1:22:18 I've started to do that when I get that impulse, one of those cyber trucks. I've seen a bunch of them now. I saw it in person a long time ago. It's a real trip man. It really looks I don't know if you can get the wheel on the truck. Can you well that is a wheel though? Oh, it is. That's how you sell cars to black folks. The sound system's good in these things.

1:24:35 Yeah, but I wanted to at least drive, It's not 100%. You got me planning, but I'm like... It's not 100%. percent. You got me planning. It's not a hundred percent. Just give me a good I don't know if they're really going You should be on CNN. Just feels like he's sure reasonably sharp, you know reasonably sharp It feels like you couldn't... we were walking and she said, oh they go Muhammad Ali and she kept walking right? I'm like,

1:27:19 They had everyone. his motor skills seemed like he's off, They don't care why they don't have anybody. A bunch of these people are gone. Have him sign for bad boy with Puffy's bad boy. and with, for the most most part no news coverage. So in the early days it was Russia. When Jamie comes back from the bathroom, we'll ask but it's like I think Yeah.

1:30:47 No, but he wasn't there long enough for them to. It is crazy, man. And as many times you indict him or whatever, to change their mind and how you're trying You know aren't true and then I know aren't true and you're gonna put them in the newspaper That's silly. that's it's like a verbal sparring. It's like a baby mama joke. I'm sure. to the point where you identify with them.

1:33:57 I'm very lucky. But also, I think with co-parenting, it's uniquely stressful. Because then the the first thing you as a co-parent, You're like, fuck that, why didn't it work? of your ability to communicate and just into, you know. their family used to get together for holidays. as much family and as regular life as they possibly could, It's totally doable and people change,

1:36:51 think you got somebody and you're good at something and you can chase it down. I mean I That's why I don't get a lot of arguments, To hear you know as a comment to hear like there's not more productive shit to do. No, but not to- I said, don't read the comments. I think that especially with someone like you as a public figure You said fuck my kid. Cause we were just having a fun time.

1:40:03 Just to get abused. they fucking evil, man. They should all be able to just let people go. Hell yeah, killed, murdered. Artificial intelligence says done. Oh, we have sat down and devised a strategy to radically improve your popularity has to come from a person, Seeing a motherfucker live. It's gonna be something about seeing somebody live. I think that's only thing that's saving TV is sports events

1:42:34 walk around in them so you can be sitting in your living room with a giant And just sit there like, whoa. and all the Navi and all the fuckin', Joe, you're not recruiting me. You're not recruiting me. And I'll tell you what, you know where Oh, now he's in the woods. Look at that. That's where I'm going. and going and doing some regular shit. That's plants, that's some regular shit.

1:45:13 I don't just like the woods to kill shit. I went hiking. Did you have a boat? Did I have a what? A boat with you just in case. No, I had my dog. No, I didn't have I think we're fucked. Underestimating the impact that's gonna have we not on test estimate because you talk about all the time, you know everything about it in artificial intelligence. be able to control is going to control us and take over us. It's inevitable that

1:47:54 There's nothing that exists in a physical form is just like a really crude shitty like like I compared to the Model T like I didn't get another phone after that. That was the shit. I remember that was the coolest shit you could have. Not necessarily. It's just a matter of what they use for the fuel. they would think you're a wizard. You got a sexy lady who's in lingerie

1:51:03 They just suck them off all day. I tried to. But that sounds like- We could go revive. And she said, yes. Yeah. When they start buying different animals like animals that the average person don't have like orangutans and shit like that The males have all been castrated, It's just the excitement, it's just like how much, and we're clapping for it and it just felt.

1:54:45 You know, the ones that gotta make it feel like Safari's a different thing. And he's just running around grabbing branches. Everybody was at the monkey looking at the monkey and all of a sudden. I heard by say, eww his monkey, eating lollipops, jerking off. Did you ever see that video the dude who's like sitting there and a monkey hops in his lap? Yeah, I can't I can't handle that man like

1:58:24 torture it's still torture. Why? He would be fucked. And he's like, oh, they bite each other's hands off so they come around and try to get Oreos from you, And that's the only thing they're accustomed to. Well monkeys can get to populations that are very big they just decided to start killing dogs. The monkeys were and it looked like they knew like yo we gonna get these motherfuckers.

2:00:56 eating monkeys and here just the monkey monkeys it all are mental issues did you Oh, there's so many of them It's gonna be one monkey to go touch them like no motherfucker. Get the fuck about it shit, man Yeah, they fucking feel better. That's how people from different cities come. would get real crazy. But my thought was like were there that many of them in cities 20 years ago, or is that a recent thing?

2:03:59 And that's the only thing that separates them from us And they're speculating. They're leaving Hollywood. So you're rescuing these monkeys and then you're putting 3,500 monkeys, they're gonna do some lace oreos they're about to kill all of them they're gonna when they wanna give them the breed. Didn't they? of all the douchey monkeys. them. You got a thousand Ferraris in a private zoo.

2:06:57 to keep the species alive. a problem, right? That's weird, anyway. I could just get rid of them. Yes, I'll try to eat a candy bar in front of those monkeys. They will fuck you up They'd feed them and those are the ones that stayed closed their ears got floppy or and then they started breeding them and then they became They probably looked like just many, many, many, many.

2:09:28 How many generations you can get just in the course of one person's life. So what you're saying, in over hundreds of years, so we're going to have robotic motherfuckers 100%, it goes every six to 800,000 years. Are you gonna watch it? I'm gonna be in Ohio when it happens. Fuck Whitney and her baby. Just as good as here though. So where are we, Jamie?

2:12:04 You know you can look through that if you have a Tesla with the right roof you can go where you don't have to make a big deal out of it. You know, you can look through that if you have a Tesla with for a little bit. You want to look at it obviously because you're attracted to it. It will fuck Yeah. Jesus, Jesus, Jesus. I didn't know. That's the only way you will watch it

2:14:09 So you're preparing for artificial intelligence gonna send you this Jamie because this is just a very strange thing that This was 45 minutes into the show Yeah, it's like an eclipse. minutes 24 seconds and we were like this is crazy like what are the odds of this I think the last time I did Kill Tony it was Well, the power of it. You didn't know what the real story, that's what you believe?

2:17:14 I risked my fucking life risk your life for him right in these punk ass motherfuckers. Yes I told them I'm going to the bathroom But I like Tony This, okay, go rewind it. Walks off. Don-El walks off in an edit. I haven't spent no time, I just remember it. Hold please. Yo, what's up man? Hey dude, I'm here, you're on the podcast right now. I'm here with Don-El Rawlings.

2:20:30 Nothing was edited? So Tony, what you see is actually the true events that took place? I don't know what to think. This is getting worse. I thought you said that you went to the bathroom He said he left for sushi. Now watch. thank you don't know Tony's a liar was shameful. I had to go to the bathroom. I get it. I had black We don't gotta do anything.

2:24:25 Seems like he wasn't lying though because we watched the video. I really don't care. Jamie. We had a good time court to stand novation on that joint nice or run out of jokes. I think they're too personal. I did Whitney's, I did Whitney's. Whitney called me and I said, I don't like it. I did Whitney's. I did Whitney's. I did it with her. script right and she's like I'm gonna put the script aside for a bit because I'm doing this documentary on

2:27:39 last one I don't watch too much stand up other than a lot I try to like balance the amount of entertainment I get in general I know I don't really the special thing about it is like, alright, what's next? It forces you to I liked the show I just saw more than I liked the special. Napa valley we were doing some shows there and you know, Chappelle records all of his shows.

2:29:39 He said, tomorrow. I was like, oh you know what, this'll be so dope. He was like, delighting. It was in the moment. and everything he said leading up to his reasons Donnell, I love you. Tell everybody the name of it. Oh, nice.