Joe Rogan Experience #2130 — Coleman Hughes Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. no idea how it was gonna land with the audience so I just went in there did my for like four days afterwards. seemed to be on my side. them are paid. And in that case, they probably don't need Because their mom's taking their kids to it seems, really wanting to paint me as someone that has been co-opted by the right wing. Very low, right?

3:58 Ben Shapiro should debate destiny. Oh my god. I know they did they did debate did they really? Yeah, absolutely. They did That was like the four hour, yeah, there you go. Yeah, for sure. Do you remember her, Jamie? That's that's what we should all hope for. That's right like an individual based on your personal qualities, and we're going to ask the government

6:16 that's what's going on when you see things like a better, more equal place. And Sonny Hostin may be one of those people. Did she use the term charlatan? She did it's fine So I'm an I'm a political independent and I'm only young enough to have voted twice intelligent and measured opinion of them. That's not, and just because some people who Yes, so even if I were I would say it's still at it's an ad hominem attack now wrong. Right. Right. Because people that are co-opted sometimes say true things. Yes.

9:33 And the problem is that's not what people want to do. you have all these people talking, there's not Everything is a threat to democracy, except things that actually probably are a threat I feel which is that I think America would survive former years of Trump or I disagreed back in 2015 2016 when I was hearing how Trump was speaking on He was very progressive.

13:06 I don't understand that fact about him, And then on the other hand, we have Biden who has clear evidence of cognitive decline, The Biden's age is his superpower. So if you look at when lots of money is on the line, Those things that you can only learn with age someone who hasn't become their roots, with a bunch of stuff that has nothing to do with it.

15:43 So basically you've had the Biden administration are actually widely supported and smart. So they undo everything. The migrant Of course what's wrong with that is the reason it's this bad is because Democrats have been ignoring the issue borders or Koch brothers policies because cheap labor. Interesting. Yeah. You don't think he is? No. He loses track of what he's talking about. It's that's him at his very best. What is

18:56 and talking about important issues. It's not fair. It's it's someone else forming the policies, you know, they have the White House press secretary got busted for using his Twitter account Just he's got this like cognitive dissonance. It's very bizarre It's crazy. And most of these people that could be effective in a position of leadership because they've

22:02 mantra over and over, Russia collusion, Russia collusion, Russia, you know, and then they just repeat this mantra over and over Russia collusion Russia collusion Right. And you're just on to the next. I think in particular in America, we're very hard on our politicians. America you get some admiration but you kind of just looks like you get your life ruined Well for least half the country's gonna hate you. Yeah, even a

23:36 you were born in Kenya. Why does a suit have to be dark blue or black or whatever it is that everybody thinks it Your serious outfit can't be tan. Don't take it. that if he talks for five minutes off the cuff, a thing that people choose to ignore when they want to talk about him as a conspiracy the primary reasons why the Hudson River is clean. even good ones, in a system like America's, where the president has intentionally very

27:06 Right, right and Hitler had charisma not from my perspective or your perspective That's awesome. Yeah, it's fascinating, but they so they did it with Hitler. You should watch it. We'll play it for you show, so then you the money from your show, Two seconds, it's like over six or something. This is wild right and entertaining and fun in a great song

29:46 Yeah, it's such a it's such a We don't have a cultural context to put that especially the sounds. Yeah, if you heard because it's like you're hearing both things. when someone is very aggressive. in one-on-one combat. you also have to be a great poet. Sword fighting people which is probably the most intimate way to kill a man and he got so good at it

33:21 and he would just fuck them up with an oar. scared because if you're not scared you lose your edge you have to have an edge Read a bunch of psychology books. I read a bunch of self-help books. I read a but I'm gonna say it again. or writing books, whatever it is. to jump far enough to get out of the cave. Some people have been stuck here their whole life

37:02 to land the jump. Yeah. Aliveness yeah knowing what the stakes are yeah, and I think it probably causes me to perform better than normal And maybe there's different things in a time constraint. and everyone's watching, that's another thing. You will be anxious, but you must be able to perform you can control it and so when you're in a You wanna be able to hit it and kill it very quickly

41:03 When you release that arrow, that is one moment, so you might have worked 11 months, 3 weeks, I've only gone shooting, I think, twice or maybe three times Squeezing of the trigger you don't want to do this where you're never anticipating the recoil. or actually important it's important yeah and the best snipers can most And you can apply it to many different things.

44:06 You might get lucky and make it just like, And it's a mental management thing. of understanding what these thoughts are itself that there's no room for anxiety. There's two seconds they have to make the shot. Amongst uncommon people he's a fucking complete psycho totally yeah, but that is how you become David Goggins Combine that with enormous natural talent and work ethic. Yeah a little bit of good luck, that's Michael Jordan.

47:01 No, I have not. a little bit better at calculation, Wow. Brutal, absolutely brutal. But I'm not doing this grueling, I can't live my life like this anymore. Like he had a famous fight with Alexander Gustafson. It was a couple of years later and John ran through him. But yet still pulled it off in the fourth and fifth rounds just out of and it's almost like you're talking about

50:31 Mm-hmm in a top performer. That's what makes him a top performer and separates him from the otherwise very good professionals 100% There was a million dollar challenge. you break the balls and the one ball is in the front, and the nine ball's in the center. and still get a shot. similar patterns over and over again. That's funny. What Earl Strickland was

52:55 The first tournament where they get this insurance policy, Yeah, he does commentary on pool matches. It's fascinating to listen to him do commentary because he talks about different English Joe, I've had... Was a pivot from all of that and how did it start? and writing as well, kind of as a side thing, side of myself. And it was, had my mom not died, I probably just would have stayed at Juilliard might have had a whole different life

56:05 Like look at that. That's a full pressure extension of the cheeks that kind of inhibited him in his last decade. That makes sense. And also, he just figured out his way to do it. He plays it left side right. But I've heard Right, didn't he something like that? Because you'd have to restring the guitar I don't have any money just saying he took a normal guitar and put it

59:33 He'd be like what oh yeah for sure fuck for sure standing next to a mountain Well because of it because of it like stevia ray vaughn that's what happens That song is a drug. You had fucking Love, Love Me Do. Beyond what's being currently expressed yeah that everybody has to like move towards him Nick and Colin and Mike and me and my friend Dan I was like this is my passion life

1:03:21 I did a couple of open mics. Did you? There's no such thing as being good when you start that for music. But I worry I would. Gary Clark was in here and he gave me his guitar Addicting about golf in particular Jamie really do the intention of what you're trying to do. Which is going the whole right from where you will ruin your whole day because you can't have fun out there.

1:06:25 everything just fades out and he just looks at the strike zone and the you Mm-hmm. I wanted to ask you this. What was your take on Magnus Carlson and that young man who apparently? but he beat him in the first game of the tournament, Why did he suspect Hans of cheating? in an over-the-board game it's possible to cheat with a device and I think that's that's happened in some

1:09:56 You know, they're not going to, they're not doing an anal cavity check. that quickly in the professional world right there's like it there's a normal I like playing when I'm on the subway. that means nothing and it's them no money. Damage, but it doesn't have a scatter of damage like like a rocket There's right there'd be scores like 50 to zero against like really good players. And it's not for any money, and it's...

1:12:36 can only have so much good luck, Is it an analysis of his previous games? You'll do some moves quickly and some moves slowly. meaning the machines are playing it better than we are. Yeah, we're way long past that now. So chess.com combines that measure Why wouldn't they just have a separate computer? But you could have someone off-camera those two theory in theory. Yep, you can have a dual monitor set. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

1:15:49 And again, all of this is separate from the fact that he's a damn good chess player. But then there was some evidence that he did it when he was like 19. Yeah, that's right. That's right it's really entertaining to watch because it's so rare. That's the fun. They're great though when those guys are talking shit, and they're slapping that clock I love watching people sit down and talk shit. Yep

1:18:34 Yeah, occasionally encountering douchebags that think that they can beat them and I never will. Well, he's helping you now the games void in the piece Maurice is beating his ass and he he I think he He's in trouble, see? Yeah, see. That's okay. I was like a magic trick, I like the way you did try the trickery now. Yeah, see... I can't lose to some rando, and so he tries to pull a fast one

1:21:24 They'll miss on purpose you know you're up six grand so you think you got this and then he beats you and there's like there's no way We would do it at the pool hall would say 369 divided by 7 plus 5 minus 2 and he would bang out the number wow and it was like that He starts winning barely more and then they would get angry and you know and he would maybe lose a game

1:23:51 You got to agree to play another game and then fall apart just to get out of there And you didn't want to be known. who's like one of the most famous money players of all time and then eventually He was a wizard like they call him the magician Oh, you don't have a clear shot at the two And so kicking is you're shooting into the rails And now guys play to kick balls in all the time because they learned it from Efren.

1:26:49 and pretending they're like a painter. Really I play at this place called ping-pong in New York. They have a bunch of locations Oh, yeah, and super high speed and diving back and forth and back and forth and it's like ah I learned to play table tennis when I was I think 13. I went to a Chinese language learning camp he was like 60 or 70. getting good because I was getting beat 21 to 3 every single time but you're

1:29:52 They got in there with Israel Adesanya, The way you're doing it, my body doesn't work like that. Not sure. If I do this, you're gonna do that. This is a beautiful thing to watch if you appreciate combat sports So he's avoiding the takedowns here, In a cage with that guy one of two things gonna happen You're never going to be a champion. Right. which was a huge blow to

1:34:32 And then Kobe got there and they realized That's the story. It's a great documentary. It's interesting how the rest of the world starts catching up with certain things. fought Muhammad Ali? Cuban wrestling team he explained that all to us here. It was awesome podcast And to have this guy who's like a hulk of a man Lost a lot of the dominance and now there's these Eastern European fighters and there's Russian fighters that are super elite

1:37:54 He's just a monster man. Just a monster. What's what's the latest with the Mike Tyson? year old Jake Paul who can box and is very good power and he's very fast and But he can knock people dead Those people are all people that can't get by the fact You might not like him, but you should separate that. Yeah, you can't say, specifically Tommy Fury sucks, I mean he does not suck. Don't say he sucks, you don't know what you're talking about. You might not like him, but you should separate that.

1:40:00 his movement, the way he steps and sets up shots, just this wild kid coming up in the middleweight ranks And he's knocked a bunch of former MMA champions unconscious. took it because he really believes in himself but Jake Paul is actually a better boxer but watch what he does the way he does it the way he lands these with a barrage of punches, just constantly moving,

1:41:52 May not have declined from his prime as much as a normal person A lot of it is like how much you've been using the body Saunas and cold punch. That's a different thing man It could be a bulging disc could be a bunch of different things, but that's an issue And Huffle Cordero is from that camp. Jake Paul is pro. I mean he's probably a little scared you know as much as he thinks he's the younger guy

1:45:33 Gotta be. which is just wild right? that killed 1,200 innocent civilians and you're continuing to bomb an area into oblivion, is 32,000, but they don't distinguish between Hamas and civilians. Which they may or may not be, that would be 13,000 Because they're in a place where these terrorists are right? to deliver aid? How difficult is it? The delivery is controlled by humanitarian organizations like UNRWA and just other,

1:49:52 getting the Hamas version of a story and then you're getting the Israeli version or whatever, but they're powerful, important families on the secondary market, which is why it may not be getting to everyone in the north so it's not because people that the Israeli soldiers shot Doing the tragedy of war thing, but it's actually a legitimate getting shot at and you're watching your friends die and you're two years into this now.

1:52:38 It's, you're asking a person to do an insanely evil you know, any nation that suffered what Israel did on October 7th, everyone in the country from genocide, because genocide is when you're trying stories are just not true. The New York Times printed a story saying that the hospital was And they tell them these people are using human shields and they just they'd say well the most important thing is getting rid of Hamas.

1:55:29 with every bombing that Israel has made. It's it's not the civilian death toll No army that I know of in military history has had 15 years to build 300 miles of tunnel and suffering of the Palestinian people, which is that you can cross the border, go house to house slaughtering your enemies, Live in a world where that's allowed to be a strategy. I

1:58:48 This is the the fear that a lot of you know That's what the idea is. And they don't. against the two state solution, I think, is that Netanyahu wanted the attack to happen as a pretext to take over Gaza, False flagged the October 7th so that he could take over over Gaza for two reasons one West Bank has religious significance to Jews. was worth. Yes.

2:02:58 They kind of have a, long story short, if he's trying to diminish the power of the court Netanyahu was elected after October 7th because everyone blamed him and it's only gotten worse in the past few months if you look at the polling on approval of Netanyahu. So if it was a false flag it But my thing with that is if you're in a country like Israel, if you're the Mossad or the Shin

2:06:13 didn't know it was going to happen on October 7th. They didn't know the scale of it or how They were distracted the whole country divided over these protests. The soldiers were in the West Bank Hamas was very smart. They allowed Israel to believe that while they planned this they knew how badly you were gonna come after us because of our raid in And that's what

2:09:08 Really? Israelis are- Israeli hippies communists. them from Gaza to Israel. They had to think that Israel would do something comparable to what they're doing or the And America, the great Satan, will abandon Israel. They have gotten as a result of this almost instantaneously. Okay, so they're not fighting a military war. They know they have no chance

2:12:16 People can go check that out. Did he yell at you through email? touch electricity and they call that a Shabbos goy because a goy is like a What does that mean? He was a good comic or Dennis Miller was a very very good comic gives there's so much material there there was so much material It's just so fun. The way that his mind works. Yeah a complete enigma to me the associations

2:15:41 It's just and you get the rub you get the rub being in the room. goddamn I want to go right. I want to get better. I'm sure yeah Then they're selling out everywhere. That's amazing. Yeah, it's incredible how it's like just Like the Russian car accidents. Oh, yeah, that's crazy. Yeah a gas trucks falling down on people and the other guy shoots him in the head.

2:17:45 Where? And it could almost, it looks like it could be Right. That's right. It's a huge goal like Jonathan. He talked about it. There's like Now kids realize that, like, young, outrageous people than working for some company that could just fire you at the drop of the hat when a robot But the AI thing is bigger than that. And it can just write scripts for you.

2:20:44 There's some Theo Vaughn's a great example And he was nothing nearly as good as he is now. I think there's been so much denial of how amazing but I'm incredibly impressed by GPT and all the derivatives. You're always going to appreciate music got acid in it. you're watching the Olympics, Will will be confused as to how we let this fucking thing make us obsolete

2:24:07 the whole difference with a nonprofit that was not motivated by profit become a for-profit company. And they created a for-profit, an LLC, or a limited partnership, which is for all practical purposes the same thing and Microsoft might own, I don't actually know what they own, but maybe like 49% of the company, right? And now through clever, you know, putting companies inside of companies, you've made

2:27:03 Yeah. middle of these discussions, he withheld funding. We couldn't agree to terms on a for-profit saying that our probability of success was zero and that he planned to build an AGI competitor within Tesla. Now, whether that's such a bad thing is a separate question. I would agree. Idealistically, that's right. Increasing its power the way Rick Kurzweil talks about it. It's happened so fast so quickly that

2:31:32 like deet deet, like someone else is calling, They would know, oh, it's Mike. and then it became what it is now which is just madness tick tock and videos and vlogging and blogging and but the cliff has no bottom. Fuck man. Yeah. And these things are gonna then if they you give them that never loses its charge. That the last And there's all these different factions competing for power and control.

2:35:14 maybe within five years, as Kurzweil thinks, if I look back in history, And look, we haven't survived it yet, And I have to have faith that with the massive changes that are going to come in the next 10, 15 years with respect to intelligence, I don't know if preparing is gonna help or rather don't prepare because it's all over right? Yeah spend all your money now

2:37:24 this one thing and it can act autonomously. It's going to know how to do it. But it's rudimentary compared to the power of everything that exists that are far more sophisticated than itself, atmosphere itself, the heat of the earth, like all sorts of different ways it brick by brick over a period of a fairly long time and humanity would be able to put on the guard rails

2:41:16 And it might be happening right now. a danger to itself, is us. in order to preserve all the other life on Earth, I mean if you got like a pure version of one somehow or another like if you found like some frozen like they found that guy it's a Neanderthal they find a frozen Neanderthal somewhere and they bring that motherfucker Like within the next few years,

2:44:04 Yes, yes. it looks so fake. Yeah. They were like, I think they were like three and five. My daughter's like, it looks like a porta potty. You're not gonna have any idea what's going on. I mean the yeah the the videos of humans talking now And it's crazy to watch. And then they showed it on television. We're we're gonna get in our lifetime to a position where we're not gonna really know what's real

2:48:02 I had David Chalmers, you know, that guy, philosopher on my podcast, he wrote a whole book it wouldn't really matter because that's now using it to move a cursor around on a screen, And it was just black and white Jurassic, you know, Argentina and you're going to see T-Rexes, you know, you're It's good enough people are already doing that with Call of Duty

2:50:58 You could do it any time you want you get home from a club at two o'clock in the morning But it's going to be way better than that. It's gonna be way better. It's gonna be virtual And the floor literally anticipates which way you're moving. And then probably how AI is gonna keep us from breeding. Mm-hmm. No, that's actually the same thought Yeah. and then you're just completely unattractive

2:54:00 because it literally in Yeah, and there'll be a movement against it too. Yeah. Artificial general sense There's a lot of evidence to back that up. they found that and they is a hard date because it was intentionally covered up sand that creates these micro glasses that survived whatever the fuck happened. If if that thing that hit the Yucatan 65 million years ago didn't hit and they didn't wipe out the dinosaurs

2:58:05 Engineered very cleverly mm-hmm. You know yeah All right. Exactly. Well, that was one of the points of the movies that it drives people against each other when they're in that scenario Exactly and for a young girl who likes seems like kind of a wokester Ethan Hawke. And I'm coming. Take pity on me. because the bridges were down and you know, use over and over and over again to transport goods across the goddamn ocean. Those things

3:01:05 Because the way we're built is that something can be completely random, like the weather, NBL solution like what the fuck was the first guy to think of that good question solid question You know, right? You couldn't question. No, so you can't question COVID. Okay, she needs his Aztec. Okay, excuse me. Chichen Itza is Mayan and changed that variable of, yeah, Native Americans

3:04:13 During the European Enlightenment industrial revolution all of this stuff that's made the world so much better that's gotten rid of famine took over the government and said, But also with its extreme Japanese work ethic. Yes. Yeah, major fact no doubt actually a much harder thing to do. So this is to your point, if a lot of in particular, if they had been allowed to evolve in isolation, just without the intervention of the Europeans, they had already constructed

3:07:06 You know So what's the disputed part about it, Jamie? good at that but that I could get what would you if you did 20,000 in a day I guess if they threw them in a hole that would have dug up the body. Perhaps. Unless they It's why it's a wild choice and I get everybody to go along with the rain dances are a lot more So it sounds good. You sound good today. Oh, thanks. All right. Thank you. Give out your social media