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0:00 Coming up, we've got kettlebells and a bunch of other cool nutritional things. Cigarettes are something that makes you feel like shit and smell terrible. depression. And then you go there your face in this economy well you know it's really good to do depression with your girl Pretty cool. forced to examine your life in a very deep and realistic way in any real true near tragic

2:53 Totally. You're just more experienced. original force they don't see it anymore as like this person's rich, this person's poor, this person's good, this person's bad. You're everything. You just merge into it all. is one great description of. Yeah, hell yeah. You know what, though, dude? Wow. I thought it was, there was no way it was going to work.

7:23 awareness. It's a chant to just sort of, I don't know, shift your vibe. Yeah, it's like when you look at him and people who are psychedelic enthusiasts, you look at someone like him and you go, there's a guy, he made it through. i want to be in this state permanently what the fuck is this because he had you know he's a trained Wow. you have this contact or whatever you want to call it with some kind of either hidden interior realm

9:34 why are they not available to me right now? or when you take even marijuana, being high feels so different avenues of thinking. so your body gets rid of it eventually where you feel paranoid. of all the shit in the world And when you smoke pot, all that Yeah. Especially if you fight it. that they have associated with certain things and details, Yeah.

13:14 Yeah. And if you're not prepared for that, then you'll have the bad trip and the bad trip is you hallucinate your body doesn't want to die and until you chance of surviving a seismic event, and that they would have another blown reactor. can't go to anymore yeah and have you seen like the places Humans have a lot of hubris, you know. The exuberance of when that stuff initially came out and people thought that they discovered

17:24 Well, yeah, I mean and you can't cool it off. You going to leave it there. That's insane. presence, he was poisoning the environment but in little ways, people fucking summon demons into their life all the time with no thought of how to get rid of it. But people who do heroin, and then you fucking end up You can go on and on about the people who shot heroin and made beautiful stuff.

19:24 Maybe there is a little landscape. he was coming to visit me that he was trying to kick heroin and that he He came and just sat around the set. the other side. That kind of goes back to what you were talking about, this idea of like having You know, I don't think all catastrophes will necessarily lead to great... A lot of crazy experiences. do not so there's a lot of people that will smoke cigarettes and never i've been smoking cigarettes

22:56 Two packs a day, all day. Well, of course. I mean, if you're a doctor, you want your people, well, if you're a real Dude, my... Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I don't know what happened to him when that scandal hit. Could you imagine anybody You're already making great money. I would never sleep. after he got arrested. Sure. Fucking asshole. Time Magazine or someone recently had some

26:04 Yes. Norway, yeah. Norway. He went rampaging through that camp just killing fucking kids. Yeah. kids camp was it in where was it norway was it norway yeah there was norway yeah norway he went he's a sociopath it feels good for him to tell the story. So in these situations, sometimes I think, has pacifism gone too far Dalai Lama seems like a great guy,

27:25 He says it like he sees a woman he's attracted to, Yeah. Is the celibacy the idea that, you know, you're beyond Is the Dalai Lama celibate? Celibate. I'd love to know that. Yeah, please do. Yeah, is the Dalai Lama. Is the Dalai Lama celibate? from fucking people is He's not only supposed to be a virgin. So is that what it is? You're poisoning your loads.

29:40 It turns out that you shoot some shit into your loads crazy drug. An Indian doctor done to his balls. This is a great movie. Trollhunter's great. It's a... oh Troll Hunter is the best by being able to watch it what the fuck is that idea? your thinking everyday so much so That's part of the job. You've got a job. stuff like medical marijuana, which is actually

33:26 Yeah, it's a real problem because with corporations, Yeah. where other people didn't agree with them What'd she do? diffusion of responsibility is another place that's used. And everybody feels like it's not their responsibility because there's so many people. on the side of the road, not a flat. someone on the street and try to help them that they're probably

35:35 Or a zombie trying to rape a dude. Now they're raping us. The problem is zombies can infect you, right? and The Walking Dead's got a really fucking good one in The Walking Dead, it's a biological Yeah, that kind of shit. Spoiler alert. Brains. remember it's in the graveyard and he's trying to scare his girlfriend and she's like who's that man you're not going to get out of a fucking coffin if you're a zombie.

38:33 You'd break their body. Is that Night of the Living Dead as well? Well, I think in all of them. it's just a scratch. That was a great fucking movie. sort of theme. This guy wakes up in the hospital we'd have to look into well let's find out they've been around for Let's see, Wikipedia. So now, let's look up return of the living dead it's earlier Because you start at the beginning of the guy waking up, so you don't really have to go into the whole shit preceding it.

41:43 It's just starting to fall the these people that are Yeah, and the people that were working with them If you know what I'm saying, it's like one of those, I can't remember the name. just desperately trying actors right but the fucking the road the road man yeah nobody looks good it looks like I'm like yeah and you get into a nice fatigued by some fucking super powerful

44:55 when the fucking grid shuts down. and tissue paper, and it's on the all the natural shit that can go down, Go look at what the fucking Catholic Church theology from a guy who never met Christ. So he was like a late night Here's an idea. conspiracy theory because it was a conspiracy that caused 9-11 from the enemy in the first place okay because it had to be a conspiracy

48:22 Yes. that everybody else followed. supposed to be taking naps to my cabin. Like, Hey, come on. And then we went out in the lake Don't worry about that. That's a crazy rule. You get to bypass the whole legal system, and they have like a list. why wouldn't they happen in the highest levels of society? So if you were the president, President Bush has 191 pardons.

51:27 It's kind of crazy. Pro-war is a weird stance. that the the real rally and cry for freedom is coming from the internet that's how they're using of society into real communism, not something imposed, something that's just a natural, I'm definitely not anti-money. It's a collective of artists and people. is because we have more access to technology than we have before.

54:50 Well, you know, I've always, I remembered when they were talking to Muhammad Ali, because were into fighting at all. why would I shoot a guy in Vietnam? They took away his livelihood in the prime of his career, and being judged for talking about the fact That's criminal water. Lime light. And I was wearing their shirts for a little while, but then they fired him.

57:30 They put together some wild fights, but they just found out it's way too expensive even if you have a lot of talent, and the UFC is consistent Oh, Ariane? Do you remember that scene? And they fly in these play Does she have a boyfriend? By princes. Easy. Yeah, easy. A million bucks a night. That's crazy. She's the type of chick that can get some Middle East king to fly her out for a million bucks. Easy.

1:00:19 and their money's And I don't think that a lot of times it gets measured up in the same pile. smart super wealthy people who kind of watch and watch maybe like maybe they have some fun with us you know that it's not like you earned your power thousands of people out there in your neighborhood that can do that. Okay. So they know that you have Why are you actively trying to get control?

1:03:12 It's really sad, too. You don't understand. And the truth is always simple. The truth is always just a very simple thing. It's a, nothing fucking complicated about uh you probably shouldn't throw bombs places where there's kids Yeah. and someone says You know, you shouldn't Sure. And also, if you send out good energy into the world, fucking gunned them down, man.

1:06:14 And that's it. The Young Turks had it on. You know, and the way to fix this. Shit. All this macro shit, man, thinking about the macro, the conspiracy. hit a lady while she was walking across the street. And you see the guy, see the lady everybody else in the long run. no way around that and the problem is when power structures are triangular they don't usually the

1:09:32 They put on different masks, and admittedly, Cathars just got exterminated by the Catholic Church. that is the at the very the very peak of our society when it comes to like causing change and damage and that is like And we're the only big dog in town. That's the unusual thing. It's amazing. they're not when they when they hear that peace might be coming,

1:12:44 where you can put those bad boys to use? the news, they're like, oh hell yeah, that's a their head dude i gotta tell you man i think i got the potential to be like that with this man I really, I mean, and it seems so weird because I know I come off as this kind of like hippie dude, They think that if you have the weapon, it will act as some kind of magnet for negativity that will, like, bring it to you.

1:14:48 Somebody could just decide to fucking kick in your door You're hearing about so many different violent acts. I mean, it's not a little, you know, when you think about it that way. Well, what if you don't want a random blowjob from a hot chick? dressing up like a genie chicks don't rape the dalai lama when a woman that hot starts stroking your cock you're you are not

1:16:35 friends. You know, he's kind of a name He's like yo fuck you Joe Rogan Or can it be managed? So to say, oh, that's too much work, I think you miss out on a big part of what it is to Yeah. of them are doing it as an escape mechanism right but i bet there's a small percentage of them that experience that a lot of people, many, many, many, many people have written about. You know what I

1:19:54 You can't do that with a, you can't do that with a job. That's it. Whatever it is, they run tests on people, And I'll tell you, I'll wake up with my brain squirming with shit thoughts and anxious sometimes. They're underneath my will. And I think the mind can become more athletic. It's clunky as fuck. This is what people, this is why more people don't meditate and more people.

1:22:47 It's the deepest you've ever gotten. is just... My dear man. about UFO abductees, No fuck. think of a time when i was on the zen retreat sitting and staring at a wall and for like seven Well, I was staring at the wall this is why in the zen temples uh in japan where the people really take it seriously people walk have such lofty ideals to merge with the nothingness uh these people are trying to accomplish things

1:26:32 Like it doesn't have to be reading someone's mind. Or when they're, these fucking assholes, that's going to be played on the internet. And the other forms of it, I don't want to use the term telepathy, phone or you know what i mean yeah so will itself just the ability to draw your senses and watch your mind And all of a sudden, it's like, oh, shit, man.

1:29:01 It's all these moments trying to take you away. And it's almost It's just that state of being present in the moment with no goal for what's going to happen, But if you want to actually try to make a living. Sometimes it means fucking It does come out sometimes. This is what I think about that. it's thinking about how are you treating the people around you? What living condition are you in?

1:32:04 The ego always wants to think about the big fucking picture. You know what I mean? spraying you. Absolutely, man. How do you treat people that you have power over? you taking vitamins? Are you being cruel to yourself? Are you poisoning yourself? Are you out and how much comes back to you. have when I'm broke. You know what There's a fucking verse in the...

1:34:51 it doesn't make sense. How can you give more than you have? I'm going to give 100%, 10%. I think it's based on a metaphysical principle, which is that if you give out. Just because. Take him out to dinner. church be in control of it. Well, the problem for the community. of the various different things people need religion man some people it's like a super beneficial tool i don't i don't deny it

1:37:58 and what happens if you're a gay dude. that the fucking sweet old book to a community and a good place where people learn to be good people or it could which is, like, this idea that you create your own reality by the thoughts that but that church, man, throw my fucking back out that we're singing this song Everything went away. Listen, man. No. He was standing there.

1:41:21 Because I thought it'd be fun. Because Daryl... Just raw cock and zipper. one of the Avengers. The gay That guy prayed. He got out of it. I'm trying to remember the song that we sang there just so I could give you more. Yeah, the, was like, You don't have to come up with excuses. little bit of a deficit. For sure. It's not a good feeling. It's not a good feeling when

1:44:55 To be careful. Forgiveness. You freaked out for a second. When you see, like, that stops the negative energy ball. For people that don't know, Here's the real thing I learned from it, though, man. you were a little snippy that day anyway, man. I don't want to talk about that, man. Okay. That's a personal issue. It's a fucking personal Handling your own shit.

1:47:57 And for people who don't know, Duncan has been pretty adamant about the, in my opinion, you're like, what? that couldn't function without the comedians or artists, Just like make it fair. Some venues don't decide because they're at a certain place. Whoa. perspective of the representative of South by Southwest and the comedy side, it told That's a big secret. By the way, Charlie...

1:50:53 But he came up and he talked to me... And what was his justification for not paying? represented there so the festival should profit, So now they don't have to pay the 700 bucks You know what we should do? He goes to all those places. where he can show up at like a regular club, like it has a full weekend, and he comes on Doug Benson does that? People tweet like beautiful hippie chicks tweet their profile.

1:53:29 It's them with a giant dick in their mouth Like you got to go, okay, You've got to be careful there, doctor. Well, I mean, sort of. he defended himself and got very upset at you and couldn't believe that you said it on the air and he was really hurt and Just to make sure people know, I told Marshall not to upload that audio right away. And he had to pay for taxes.

1:56:01 the time and they're constantly uh emailing me all the time asking me to come and perform. So he doesn't have to worry about it anymore. But what happened was I was totally wrong. I didn't feel good. it's very upsetting for him. I didn't go. That's the thing, man. I know, we're going back and forth with each other. Where you, you know. I didn't go.

1:57:58 Yes. I said he's robbing comedians. My side of the street, when I attacked him, I was pissed. Yeah. it implies forcefully taking something from someone. So there's that. like eight years ago when he stabbed me with a pencil. I stabbed him with a fucking pencil. You did stab him with a pencil. I'm sorry for that. That's pretty fucking crazy. when I'm trying to sleep, man.

2:01:25 And the end result of that, Or like all this stuff that ultimately so now what Simplicity is the most important thing? see who was right who was wrong and how did you do that and why did you do that it's just a simple She got out of that one pretty good. So you have to like, okay, you're out of the relationship. Well, in his defense, what he's upset about more than the fact that you brought it up on the podcast

2:04:11 It was up to his discretion. You know, he did his own shows. You know what I mean? um and number two well it wasn't his fault that was made public it was really my fault fuck Duncan Trussell in front of half, Yeah, peace train! Oh, yeah, but he was calling for Salman Rushdie to be killed. I saw him playing. He's obviously an incredibly sensitive guy.

2:07:31 and you've got to make it all better after it's over. you know he's got a lot of man child in, but that's that's part of what makes him funny whatever this weird fucking thing is that we're building here, we've got to like learn how to forgive each other and to let bygones be bygones because otherwise the community that we're forming is weak, you know, and then in a week fucking thing is going to fall apart.

2:09:15 civilized way. You know what I mean? It goes on forever. That's the fucking thing. fucking busy, not getting You know, You know, we have to figure out a way to to always communicate with respect it's just so hard to circumstances, in various You could be this guy. we're the same fucking thing. roll of the dice the body inside the the meaning of what it is when you think of you i could easily be you i could

2:13:35 But at the root of it all, because then you could spoil you. Like, you have to address it from a real place. It's going to work out okay. It might be turbulent. It might be weird. But if that's your fucking intention behind it, it's going to work out great. It's going to work out okay. negativity in the world. That's the thing that we've got to like deal with. And this thing with Brian, and I'm sure everyone's got an example of this happening in their life or will have it,

2:15:09 as far as doing it Just drop it. especially the generation that you and I come from. geopolitically we are one of the first generations to truly have a decent You really want to go to a fucking ball game in Philly What could happen if the shit hits the fan? which I thought was really stupid. Yeah. I don't know how long I've been doing this, it's an Xbox Kinect set up over a sandbox

2:18:30 It is an Xbox Kinect and if you run your fingers through it, Is it really that hard to make a podcast, folks? the sandbox yeah and then as you scoop up sand the sandbox it's showing on a I'm gone. ridley scott and give him an infinite budget and just give him all the acid and mushrooms he needs I feel like I'm getting away with something. It's so American, man.

2:21:17 Slides all over the place. after you've been driving around at 89 volvo of cars these cars are the one one my number one Like if you buy a new Corvette, like there's a lot of people Yeah. An object know how there's a little thing on the side of it i won't turn down all the way it goes to vibrate Duncan you make me sad Dude, I've been looking at some of these Android phones they have now.

2:23:48 and I'm watching these people use it I mean, it's fucking huge, man. I think it fucks up your eyes. They're really badass. I picked up a shit Android once. And the new Samsung Galaxy 3, that's another one that just came out in England. like that's all you have to do it's like you're a magician you do that they're badass man yeah Candid adult shots.

2:25:44 Of the camera's view. we talk about on here. they're going to show a screen filled with MOVs of me jerking off in front of my fucking Because look. the entire government so fucking unrewarding of people start improving the their lives and the lives of people around them The world, Nancy Grace's world is a shitty fucking world. by surrounding yourself with other people that are like-minded.

2:28:39 we're trying to go with us. We were just trying to express ourselves 100% honestly. And they seek each other out and all improve the actual environment they live in. And then it starts these exponential changes all over the world. The Internet is the only thing that, exactly, You could just do that. and it's like definitely if you look back at history and the way powers always fought to subvert the flow of information and suddenly there's

2:30:45 But for me, 1993 is about what I, you know, it all kind of bubbled together So the kind of shows we're having where we're going and thousands of people are there and the thousands of people are screaming and having fun and and this is just It spreads out more positivity. I'm a disciple of Crowley. I love you. They're amazing. there's obviously conspiracies.

2:33:20 what we have going on here Yeah. Fucking poor drunks. And, uh, That was the same. where to put everybody. So you and I would just keep talking. You know, you always had potential. But it was like being in a bad relationship is like Rogan thinks that joke's funny. helping. I love crush in front of thousands of people. God damn, look at Ari Shafir. would not recommend before their sets be like hey dude do that fucking really uncomfortable satanic puppet act

2:37:45 I said, well, you don't have to worry about that because you're open enough for me. As long as you're trying to be. But you don't necessarily tiptoe around the fact and some of our jokes don't work out gotta be honest about that You need to know. and put various images and feelings in people when we got too high, and then allow you that you, and I'm like shit do, can I do this joke?

2:40:24 That is the state of mind that you're at when you're on stage like i'm in this driver's seat Dude, it's really easy to lose Yeah, let's wrap it up now. Done. life. We're doing pre-sales for t-shirts at the It's pretty dope. until they actually get it? And if you wait, it's a $2 extra and you can't afford to look forward to. Plus, if you get them now, it's $20, and if you wait,

2:42:13 came up with that. Just kidding. We already established that. And so I want to thank everybody Oh my God, it was insane. He hasn't even had a chance to say a word yet. too hot to handle there's too much to to deal with people nobody wanted to have him middle that was Store brother. And so when I started taking You wanted a comedy store was about a bunch of different guys being good.

2:45:44 you know so so taking Death Squad videos. and organize them about criminal stories about sneaking into some girl's fucking bedroom at two o'clock in the create like a bigger footprint of positive energy. All of us together have one giant footprint of and the less negative bullshit that you can spread, the more forgiveness that you can It doesn't necessarily mean you're a horrible person.

2:48:40 Don't be angry and don't hate. Click on the link for the Fleshlight. Thank you for everybody for tuning in.