Joe Rogan Experience #2141 — Bart Sibrel Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience Wow. happened? What happened to you that you you're essentially you're known They did fake the moon landing. today But we have to look at things realistically if we're ever going to get an accurate picture was a plan that was signed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff where they were going to initiate false I took a cross and laid that all out and I was like, what?

4:22 You're discounting that amazing accomplishment from humans. MKUltra thing is 100% legit, verified. There's plenty of documents on it. They experimented And everybody agreed. the Gulf of Tonkin. Robert McNamara, before he died, got it off his chest, said that the You see, whoever killed JFK, you're just changing who did it and why. Some people are like, well, I know America has gotten bad, but at least we went to the moon.

7:45 wall from city to city. 3,650 times over the next 10 years, probably saw them three times a day. And what year was this? the distance to the moon. 1969 than they do today. Not necessarily. Well, but that The Apollo program was a massive program to try to beat Russia to get the first person on the moon If we wanted to do it today, we could do it today.

11:31 and it would get out. a screen. So if a person in the command center cannot tell a difference, then how I don't think so. You see, there's a big difference. And then we have no independent press coverage. you, your employers told you. or it would happen, but they still didn't know who had done it. They had wrapped it fake the moon landing because they had complete control over the media and a

15:07 Either they went to the moon on the first attempt, had a schedule with one million computing It's taught in university. sabrel.com, watch 17 clips for free that prove it. Have you had any debates with really went well you know you could make the argument that the radiation damaged the cameras and they weren't able to get real photographs with and they decided to manipulate some so that they can have photos that they

18:11 It's not confirmed. I don't know. Yeah, it's well, it's secret squirrel stuff. But what is operations Google that was operations starfish prime A mk2 reentry vehicle was launched from Johnston atoll in the Pacific Ocean about 900 miles west southwest of Hawaii The explosion took place in an altitude of 250 miles. So is that essentially like where the space station is and all that stuff is? That's right. Okay. Above a point 19 miles southwest of Johnson

19:46 Look at it says there, starfish prime, and this always happens, caused an electromagnetic pulse Imagine your burglar alarm goes off because the fucking government launched a nuke into A large number of United States military ships and aircrafts were operating in support of So does it say why they were doing it though? Began in response, right, but why did they do it in space?

22:26 start landing. Like as soon as they start dropping bombs on cities, like Jesus Christ. not possible to launch because of the temperatures. gonna give you the opportunity saying what they would say to you the clip And when did he say this? Navigation and guidance for Orion. once up and once back. through this region. What was he talking about though? He's talking about

26:09 before we send people through this region of space meaning the technology And then you'd open up a can of worms. But I'm saying even if you don't say that, even if you're not saying... But he said people. My name is Kelly Smith and I work on navigation on Orion. we know about the spaceship, what we know about the Apollo 11, what we know All for free you go on there and watch the videos and read the documentation.

30:18 they're faking being halfway to the moon well whatever that footage was though in And to stimulate or to simulate that, I would say what you can do is black out all the light It's not that it's the people today that are in the scientific The only thing that I could think of that was logically Isn't there one of just the actual video that we can watch?

33:01 side are the outtakes that we got an unedited reel of the special effect shot by accident and Michael Collins break down part of the so this is where effect this is what I want everybody look at Yeah, that's an arm getting in front of the window. That's an outtake It makes it look like the earth is floating in space Well, that's because if they are saying way to the moon, that's what it is in there

36:05 So if you see the footage and then you hear the words, you go, what could they possibly Go to sabral.com. 50 years ago anyway. the amount of helium isn't a military secret. There's an anticipation that we could live in a future where there's space wars, right? It's real. exactly how much radiation it is Right, but as time goes on they would know the radiation readings

39:30 Start at 3423. And that's from 1 24th of a second, not something that's a hundred times more lethal going on exploded the first atomic bomb, 1945, just 10 years later, atomic bombs were 1,000 times more powerful. So if Okay, so let's play the video where you get to hear the audio. unedited reel of this special effect shot of them faking being halfway to the

42:18 The person who he has an earpiece in counts off four seconds, thousand and one, two, three, They were first screened and edited for playback later What they have ingeniously done is placed the camera at the back of the spacecraft and centered the lens on a circular window in the foreground, for you are seeing the outside of the window at the bottom and the inside of the window

45:30 or halfway to the moon as the NASA flight log also states on this date You can also notice how the astronaut operating the camera reacted to the mistake by attempting Here is the diffused work light that they used to see camera controls, I mean you could walk around outside in the dark. I mean, it's pretty amazing how bright it is when it's a full moon. Imagine that four times

48:49 like at 130,000 miles out, would it even look that small? Well, the camera's at the back of the spacecraft, and that's the circular window, And the Moon is one-quarter the size of Earth. but this right now is and three other filmmakers who, for a living, what they said but it's not it's at the very back of the spacecraft the lights Mm-hmm. The video said tape multiple times, then said they've removed the tape could have been a

52:40 the fig scene I guess with you know a giant picture of the earth outside of was gonna steal man it would be what I said was that maybe his he misspoke by Which is incredibly bright because it's four times bigger than the moon and twice as close because they're halfway there. Well They had a policy of deception in terms of imagery He's playing this part Jamie and you'll see that this is the window

56:00 they're faking right right right I have to stop you you're saying like make the Correct. Correct. And that's the only thing, and we'll pretend that it's the Earth with space, but we really can't get that because of the positioning of the camera, the amount of room, if you look as the thing goes feet from the window filming the earth coupled together so it's quite deep right but it's still

58:11 halfway to the moon. No, no, no. That's not what we concluded. We concluded that they are Okay, so Apollo 11 is being deceptive with their photography. this way film it through that circular window will black out everything it'll wouldn't know it's more complicated they wouldn't dare fake any of it because equipment right doesn't it fuck up your film well but doesn't it isn't that

1:01:04 I'm sure they would love the public to believe that because many filmmakers like myself agree fake the footage and the reason they fake the footage is because the footage got all fucked up because they went through radiation. during the descent instead of a little Atari computer animation and then We have a video of that we can show. interrogated him as he's dying, wanted to notify the relatives of the person who he

1:03:03 My friend thought it was morally wrong. And this is real. His son, after telling me this information and confirming it, his house If I can go from being the biggest fan to having to accept the sad Well, basically, he was totally confused how they could possibly think they're going to This is the man who was going to be the first man to walk on the moon.

1:05:55 He said this thing is a lemon a piece of junk made the evening news and a few days later and didn't kill anybody. Maybe I'll confess my devious nature. We're true patriots and patriots have to face facts that when people take an oath to this country, Grissom, they took away his life. They take a third of our income, they deceive That's it could possibly be that definitely but also when you're launching rockets a lot of people die

1:09:19 CIA had something clamped in there to start the fire. They ignited it. It caused a dip Yeah, so they would make sure not to be able to get out. It would take more time to get out. But is that what they What did you hear of this fact? They rigged it with the oily rags under there, with reversing it. of it would be interesting yeah there's a video of his son but there's also

1:11:49 most people's memories not that good and then if you're really old and they don't know what the fuck is going on, they don't know their name, Like didn't E. Howard Hunt have a deathbed confession about the JFK assassination? fewer eyewitnesses. And then every department of the military has their special ops intelligence Same thing with the astronauts. Stephen Greer's number one source that UFOs are real. It's been his whole life saying the moon landings are real. You see that?

1:14:07 And this is great. I appreciate you. So, we were at... Gus Grisham died in a fire. I think back then this was before DNA evidence and it would get rid of the forensic evidence He says that he doubts as president the authenticity of the moon landings. White House I think he might have been ahead of his time I think that was not cultural victory right oh that's could be their excuse what okay so so here's

1:17:34 right? What a coincidence. Yeah. About how NASA was so far behind schedule. first occasion that happened to be the most complicated one of all time. how long did it take total? All days in space? return to the moon in five years right yeah they all say that you had Bush Well, they said they were going to have people orbiting the moon. was between 1969 and 1972 seven attempts six successful

1:20:48 They can prove they went there because there's laser reflectors on the moon that they can That is the argument though, right? Yeah, so the argument is the laser reflectors prove another like one of the goofiest ones was when they used the reconnaissance that says this is part of the lunar lander. say? because it's not that clear The curator saw my film, says, oh, I wonder about that. He, in the middle of the night, they expected no one would open it up. He opens it up, puts the rock under a microscope, and it's petrified wood, kind of this eerie, out of the world

1:24:12 Neil Armstrong and this he personally gave it to him do any said I picked this I mean it seems highly likely that they gave him a fake moon rock. one of the best places to find a meteorites because the fact that it's completely white, And so it's like well, we have any on earth. Well, yes, sir. We do we have some lunar meteorites he loved Hitler so much he fainted when he found out Hitler was dead. Or maybe he got

1:27:14 Jews in their rocket factory in Berlin. So if you walked in, you would see the five slowest He said that? She might be a scammer. She seems sincere to me. She might be trying are real but they're not from outer space. Okay, what about the ones that Kenneth Arnold themselves because they're liars of Something like you said can't be proven or disproven. I'm from this galaxy

1:29:56 as talked about in Genesis 6, and creating a race called Nephilim who were men of renowned world leaders. seeing how this guy who is paralyzed can now utilize a computer and this is how it goes, in intelligent life forms on complicated planets, when they have complicated technology. what would that look like? Well, it'd probably look like aliens. It'd probably look like some weird sort of creature

1:32:41 got pitchforks and but what is the what kind of force would a demonic force be something? Well there is a spiritual component including to the moon landing. greatest accomplishment, you see, and the world-leading country is putting a man on The flag waving on the surface of the moon. stiff so it stayed horizontal and when you watch the video footage the flag is

1:35:22 The problem is when the flag gets ultimately planted and then they back away from it and no one's Here's another thing to take into consideration. This what you're looking They ran that to a monitor and then they had people film the monitor, right? Why didn't they have color, right? There's no reason to do that. Why wouldn't they want a high resolution color camera?

1:38:07 Just Google flag blowing in the wind on the moon. This one's pretty good, I think. you see it moving around so this is it so this thing is kinda just waving on So how much further is this go, Jamie? it again. Look at this. As he hops by, he doesn't touch the flag. Now, can I do Devil's Well, actually, Von Braun, we found publications of his. They were 150% chance they would have been killed from a micrometeorite grain of sand traveling through space at 25,000 miles an hour and

1:41:51 by 30,000%. same thing. But how did they do it with a rocket that rocket that contained one thirty thousandths of a percent of the amount of fuel? course you couldn't. Well you could because you know it's four seconds, right? that's with that's just on yeah you can play around the world you can say the a planet how's it leaving is that some new space technology where's the fire

1:44:57 counts down from ten if he gets to five you hit it well there's a three second It would be at least a 12-second delay, I think, and possibly more than that. It's watch it again Jimmy because it's moving up like it's being pulled by strength of thrust on earth because the gravity is so much stronger so that thing Yeah, but what so then you're dealing with a totally different machine and you're dealing with totally different factors

1:47:38 electronics all the diagrams of the equipment because you could later prove row against 250 degree outside. So this is an indirect proof. give me all the originals so I can transfer it to HD and project it at 120 feet wide. then they finally got it right on 17. Ed Fendel, got his timing just right on Apollo 15. the significance of the liftoff at the time.

1:51:05 about the fraud you get a thousand videos defending you know the supposed So the lunar module leaving the surface of the moon, had somebody for the first time they did it they have a single time did they With two people in it. But hold on, before we get going. So the first two were in America? doing that to try to overcome the six times gravity that Earth

1:53:51 that was required to get off of the moon's gravity, get away from the moon and fly to did this is one they did on earth I don't know where it went. November in Moscow. And just like at these conventions you can try out a car It can tell you in one second a video, whether a video of Biden or Trump is real or deep fake, it's never been wrong. It can tell you in one second a video, whether a video of Biden or Trump,

1:56:24 even real. It was a it. I did a screenshot. It says that that's how desperate they are because the latest AI says the moon landings are fake. It said the Chinese probe pictures are real the Apollo pictures are fake the smartest AI in the real in the world We haven't seen your film and irregardless of what's in there Well, the former director of the Russian Space Agency.

1:59:06 it, without reading your book, and even if your book and movie proved that it was fake, And that's the Moonlight thing. So there will be no bias. giving them illegally according to the own federal law secret space technology it's fake, they're blackmailing NASA for technology. So the federal government is see, Fox News is covering up for the federal government. You see, it's

2:02:42 that footage and they said Bart I'm sorry to tell you this Pride is simply the unwillingness to be wrong and humility is the willingness to right-hand side a picture taken from the alleged last mission to the moon And the astronaut shadow is going at 12 o'clock and a rock five feet away. on the moon. I talked to the Washington Post about the footage we showed. He was doing a

2:06:10 What's your opinion on that one? Sure, well, let's take a look at the image, Jim. next to the astronaut and the app and the shadows intersecting you know what You have to block out a lot of light. What doesn't matter the shadows the shadows are still gonna run parallel potentially without knowing exactly everything because I'm not the math scientist to know

2:08:37 sources though and they're gonna look different. Right, but Jamie, the difference in the amount of light that gets you would still get the same kind of shadow that you get off the astronaut behind the Well this one is not nearly as convincing. It's an electrical light because sunlight is parallel That's part of the problem with analyzing each individual short little photograph like this

2:11:14 The shadows are parallel in sunlight if the shadows intersect it's an electrical light And if you're to the side of it, it's gonna to cast an angle in it, the light in a different angle and the shadow in a different angle. It was a caramel brown color and they had the background grayish blue and they said, oops, Right. That's the man on the moon. Well, what we need is the original prints that came out in 1969 and those and those the soil is

2:14:41 seen I've seen them before other people that put them in films and it's true that they claim they're in two different And that's the advantage. moon, one of the things that people would always say is, oh they were special And then someone said, okay, at what temperature does photographic print paper, Kodak paper Immediately. Here it goes. Inside the camera, highly precise motors

2:17:45 camera. Right. Okay well the most significant part about this, when my film Allegedly a guy on the surface of the moon and sunlight and he's embarrassed. He says I They didn't have that much actual footage. If they really went, it would jeopardize the credibility of it. Being able to look at the images and determine that they're fake. I haven't heard your devil's advocate excuse yet, Joe for

2:20:41 Let's just destroy it all if you can't they did because then other people can have it well the point I see what you're saying yeah a cursory understanding of the moon landing itself. Martian wasn't shot on location on Mars. But they did only a handful of people knew the truth I interviewed Edgar Mitchell in his house for my second follow-up film, Astronauts Gone

2:23:12 to hit stop record. So while the camera is in the back seat of the rental car in the astronaut have the CIA in his Rolodex? Do you see? That's indirect proof that they didn't How old is this son at the time? Well, he was about I guess 23 years old They really didn't go to the moon. They really didn't go to the moon. And he's like, well, Bart, I told you.

2:25:47 pulls out immediately when I go by I'm like that guy was waiting for me. I look at him in the eye. This is 1999. trying to give them the tape through the back door. This is all in my book. Maybe it'll How'd you do that? Well, you gotta read the book. It's a long story. I make my way back to Nashville, I check back with him a few days later, says, Bart, well, there was a problem at the lab.

2:28:30 And how do you know these folks that abducted you were government agents? I'm going to sneeze. was concerned they would kidnap him And then the next question, they did when Ralph Nader was trying to get them to put—they sent FBI agents on him Let's go over specifically the Van Allen radiation belt. So the shielding to send We found that out that in the full quote he said that they had it.

2:32:38 Really? suspicious. Like, not a lot of it makes sense. Just logically, if you look at the timeline Did they do it with a monkey? That's what I heard that it that it added to the radiation there here the transit through the belts. The radiation shielding inside the spacecraft cuts down the 14 rads So what kind of proof is that? I'll find another source, if you'd like,

2:35:43 are the Van Allen radiation belts? So it keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger. in this gap region where the radiation effects are minimum. So there's a gap in between than previously believed. So how is it that astronauts 600 miles away from it know more about it than 1 1⁈1 1⁈1 and was there anything a coating on the inside? Let's find that that's it. That CNN from the 365 mile trip.

2:39:39 We have an article to that linked in one of the video clips description. fake it in order to redo it, it's even if the technology exists today to be able to shield a craft to get through the Van Allen radiation belts and to fuel Yeah, and from the radiation if they're being accurate of why they're faking being halfway to the moon because they can't even go

2:42:46 That and micrometeor well and the fuel and the fuel because Trip Elon Musk isn't entirely sure how many starships it will take many people are reluctant to take it on. But if you even talk about the moon landing being I'm inviting someone to do that if they want to do that with you. Because once this comes Admitted that I was wrong and still when I had all this evidence indicating the fraud

2:45:59 I pop in the tape, it says don't show to the public. I hit fast forward. It's the same And it was just bill casing bill casing coming out that and looking at the pictures as a filmmaker they didn't go to the moon. public the most if they find out. landing fraud coming out has to happen or we will never have honest government ever Look at Michael Collins fidgeting.

2:49:13 in one great adventure. that was here from the surface of Earth. These are the only guys on Earth who lunar orbiter that's right and also when he's asked about stars Neil Armstrong moon and it gets attributed to buzz Aldrin because it's not convenient but if you who didn't want fame, and all of a sudden he's thrust into the public light, like that The first man, we sent him to another planet.

2:55:15 what human beings have been able to do. So bizarre I've never seen anybody give a rational Okay, what does that mean? What does that mean? surface of the moon, you know, posing as the first man on the moon? A still picture. Zero. you don't want to end up like the Palawan crew do you the guy's a test pilot I think i think they most people again are not aware of that video i think think they threatened his family's life to get him to participate. Perhaps, but we're just

2:59:04 So that's just speculation too though, right? and we know they are blackmailing NASA I understand, I understand. moon landing fraud and instead of blowing the whistle would blackmail as a Well, if the truth came out, acknowledged by the government, it would be a beautiful, nation, but as a species. We can't even tell the truth about such a thing. years. He says the CIA, the NSA, they're spying on the private cell phone conversations of

3:03:15 fabrications, right? We have so many murders of people that they have done themselves. eyewitness who saw them filming Apollo 11 at Canada Air Force Base. And we have JFK is dead and all the people in 9 or 11 are dead who regardless of who did it and why this is different But I don't think the right way to handle this is to not talk about it or to silence

3:05:32 How long have you been at this for? We can have a great awakening about everything else, that get this information of a resonance it resonates with them that are universal thinking. I was forbidden by the University of Pittsburgh They have to be willing to be wrong All right, Bart. I think you've eloquently stated your case and I think you've been at