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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Yeah, you have done a podcast. And the sword and the sword the swords even old than the armor the armor is from the 1800s There you go. where can I put that, where can I put that fucking thing? So do they do that to keep your prices down? I mean, professionally, I think about 16 years. When I was born. horse but like Geronimo and shit like that and I just saw a look in their eye like a wild person

4:12 tribes, when they tried to bring them back to Western society, they all wanted to leave. Absolutely prefer that life you both work you're both with other people at least eight hours a day how I dodged office life. Ideological beliefs as them forces you to see have the same political beliefs as them crazy dude reminds me that movie office space That's what you're fucking shooting for

7:56 learning things that you don't want to learn, But they had everyone convinced that if you didn't do this this way you're gonna be a fucking loser and Things you enjoy and then if you learn that you do something that you enjoy and you really get good at it And if you don't do that, you're a loser. You need to have a roof over your head. Okay. Here's a job this way and get a roof over my head

10:26 Because the reality of life then, in the 1920s, And so they all just did it, and now we're still doing it. Can't wait to get out and talk shit about them. She's making videos or tick tocks or what have you someone's consuming that product. She's a business person times because people are inundated by other people's lives. a life of an artist like a life that you know there's you you labor at these pieces that you make and then people stand in front of go

13:22 And kind of wake them up a little bit But can you find that photo, that painting, Jamie? And that thing is massive. That's a massive painting. Just the the close-up of his face with all the paint and the cracked paint And that's how they would communicate those deeper truths. And if you look at those cave drawings, That's what I was gonna say. I was like the same with Grateful Dead. Yeah

16:31 It's so hard to know because it's like it's such a multifaceted story, right? Because it's laced with Yeah, you could do that too. your memory is of the memory of you telling it, What makes you special? Did you really see Bigfoot? that everyone's lying. No, too many people go into the backcountry, you know that don't understand the woods, you know,

19:27 the forest and you're scared. and if you're in that and this is a new experience for you and Maybe there's a frequency that you could hit where that motherfucker's real. There's a lot of that. foot like finding Bigfoot. Yeah big demon of a fish. We couldn't think of a better fucking title than the Yes, we don't tolerate outsiders here Greg. That's a job title. I'm a no. I'm a legitimate

22:40 Yeah. This big party why not yeah, thanks. I'm sure to hang out with bigfoot the elves Santa Claus this reality tunnel. When I was a kid, me and a bunch of my friends, the money that we still had and everybody's were, you know, we had a bunch of weed were Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I mean, right. We'd throw it in. wouldn't make it to where you did today.

26:03 And if you're like, no, you're crazy crazy. You're never gonna fucking do anything with art I was an artist. No, I was a graphics guy for OSHA for the Occupational Safety and Health Administration. Oh. Bro, there's so many videos on Instagram you breathe it. It's terrible for you. Oh my God. But I mean, I had to kind of get into But a friend of mine actually

28:47 your ass and so I was like all right go outside I'm gonna finish my beer I'm Cause he was going, break it up! Yeah. Oh, come on. I couldn't even see that. Always dude, and so he scurries away and I ran over and grabbed knows I know you don't put on a car I'm gonna be a little late and Rich is like no you're gonna be a little fired motherfucker Yeah.

32:38 I think the dude is wearing a mask and he is he said something like I got kids motherfucker there right there BAM he's dead see that dude bounces his head off and the other I read a story that said he died in the hospital. Ah, 300 from nothing? on that shit if it was in the newspaper and we found out about it? wild Mexican tobacco cannabis was like well well known huh and so they started

35:13 But they weren't doing anything. Forests that they would cut down to make trees see he owned paper mills as well and hemp paper was a superior paper like the, you know what I mean? Yeah, there's a certain percentage of journalists that are just bullshit artists love the constitution, I think it's just, it's so cool that the checks and balances Cause then all they gotta do is answer to me

37:43 What? money so every deal is different. Mm-hmm. But right now I do I don't sign exclusive Right, exactly. So it's the fronting the money is the issue or the exclusivity. And then, like the gallery knows you're loyal? We need more of that. Yes, you know we need more of that. We need more encouraging people to create things. get into art whatever art it is whether it's your music at least you have a solace of some

41:33 That's what art is really supposed to do is try to communicate to you that like you do matter people. They don't have anybody like real close that they can hang out with that they love. It was a funny Did you go to work? and being with people that we love. What do you like when you talk to people? Yeah. Nice. I get to just sit here and chill and like take it all in and go wow fuck I'm in this new city but they're

45:32 And I realized that's my perspective. You know? It's trying to get us to get sucked into the machine, kids. I would I went down on a photo shoot to the Navajo reservation years ago, like probably about what gives me the ideas. And I'm all kind of off balance and the horse gets weirded out and just fucking takes off at a full run Right, right. He was running, dude. I wasn't ready for it.

48:46 And my horse like puts his head down and taps the ground. It's very strange. They are exactly fucking like it is like that right exactly because this is like thing Very strange, you know, there's a some sort of a sinking of the minds That's it's not as simple as the dog recognizes that it gets food from you. No, no, no, this is like this weird love

50:57 And I do this or something. They'll come right up to be like what's wrong, bro? It's just funny. we're working out in the gym with all the comedians and Marshall was with us lifting a thing or me grunting or pushing a sled like what I don't oh no and then you got nerve damage no fucking alligator yeah yeah they don't They don't get the rules of engagement.

54:00 Well, cuz my my mentor a friend of mine wrote dances with wolves. Oh, really? He's like one of my best influences that guided me in my career. Michael Blake, train, a wagon train pulled up to a, like an abandoned camp, a civil or not civil war, turpening, which is like the big Western artists. He's like, no, dude, don't be the next anything. Like I did album covers for a lot of the bands from Salt Lake

56:06 about the Native American stuff is that It was like this very crude, kind of simplistic version what was that like because neither one of them were like a hero or a villain purely. I mean the Comanche, That's what they called themselves, sometimes it's the same groups of people that you used to be allies and now you're at war or used stop you guys just wanted to try out your fucking bomb yeah you just wanted to

59:34 Yeah. Right. Well, leaf cutter ants have no idea that you have a car Hey, it'd be like when your parents heard you just beating the shit out of each other in the other room Because maybe they needed to let us know, like, hey, there's some other folks here and It's so hard to know what's bullshit. they think that what we're Well, you know, there's a whole conspiracy about the invention of the transistor, because

1:02:49 But Bell Labs is a wild place. release a better one every few years maybe they had PlayStation 5 and 95 but Could indicate highly advanced technological ability. That you could get to? Yeah, I mean, imagine if you got to a place where you And Thanos is like a type two civilization, one that can directly harness, harvest rather, and innovation continues at the level that it is now

1:05:39 They didn't even think of cell phones. a far superior version of itself in artificial intelligence, and that creates a far superior version of itself in artificial intelligence, We could always just, we could just imagine if, and it can do that. Yeah, like when Bob Lazar was first examining if he's telling the truth when Bob Lazar was first examining the spaceships the thing that blew him

1:08:00 Yeah You know, like that's what I'd be doing if I had time machines. instantaneously always forever. And not like physically disturb it. Time now, anyone can go. So the moment they turn that motherfucker on everything changes forever. How did that the fucking each in dude they write going right deep meditations? what it is it's not a game yeah I was trying to remember how he I haven't

1:12:12 into? Everything's ridiculous. So nothing is... Daoism and Timewave Zero isn't any So it's almost like we can only think about things The doubt to chain that's what figured out I just meditate I wait for it to find me and that's not an intellectual It's so you're stuck in this, like let's go through all these boring, our reward system is based on, it rewards people

1:15:31 She fucking lazy bitch. Ha ha ha. You get locked in meanwhile space and fuck up communications and shut down the grid and if it gets big enough And glass ceiling on that car. start making beef jerky again. Oh yeah yeah yeah you're gonna need beef jerky. You're gonna need there's two different types of. seeing they end up traveling up to a million miles a second. Whoa. So that's

1:19:26 But every now and then it'll blow a gasket and you get just crazy waves headed towards us though The Carrington event is what it's called. The most intense geomagnetic storm in recorded Everybody's fucking house just blew up? The flare was a major coronal mass ejection, a burst of magnetized plasma from the Sun's upper atmosphere, the corona. according to NASA

1:22:22 You're fucked Yeah, they don't want to freak people out dude. then it shoots off a big wad of jizz and blasts us with some plasma. Well, there's so many of them eventually they reach the end of their lifecycle Like because this is like post-world war two we understand atomic bombs, like what do these guys have? I'm sure they had me when they when they first detected these things. I'm sure they were Jesus guys

1:26:07 That's probably what happens. Yeah, what are hypernovas? Was a supernova back then like how much did they know about that how How big did they say they saw did they talk about it? Well? I saw the one before that I was down in Santa Fe. Oh, yeah, I saw I was outside Eclipse looked amazing. It's so weird that the Sun and the moon are the perfect size

1:28:31 I think it's certainly a reminder of just the vastness and bizarreness of space itself It keeps us stable because it's pretty big. That moon is pretty fucking big. there any other planets in the solar system that would experience an eclipse You see this black circle in the outside. I'm like a weird ring. It's perfect. Yeah. It's perfectly established to give us

1:30:38 I was like, Eddie, I trust you. it's probably there the universe is probably older than we think it is. I your technology in a good way, maybe you could stabilize it so fucking big bang happens and Published today in the journal Nature, an international research team led by Carl Glazenbrook able to clarify what the red spec how old it is and it's way beyond the bounds of what's reasonable to form in

1:33:57 And it's big. and then big bang again. Was that. Contracts. Right, but I mean we gotta like assume if there's something now, Right. Like, ah! So you just got to think, well, we live in interesting times. And then what are those? out. This is gonna be wild, dude. We don't know. Because when those solar flares could this your first time in this timeline? You know, everybody

1:38:03 Do you like life now because I love life now. I'm like, okay, if you wouldn't want to do that, do you like life now? Because Like when I first started doing kung fu when I was like 19 or 20, I didn't know it. And we didn't have to get choked. So it was just fun. Right. You know, and I was like when I when I first started doing kung fu when I was like 19 or 20 I didn't know it and we didn't have to get choked so it was just fun, right?

1:39:17 It enriches the way you think about everything. get bored. You can fucking enjoy this life. You can. Yeah, you certainly can if you find things The human organism needs little puzzles and stuff to do. is there any part of you that doesn't want to do that? fucking he wasn't he was a smart dude he didn't want his picture out there so he research what he really would have looked like, and also just think is this

1:42:20 black elk's description of them and just try to put together Yeah. Well, because I don't think, I don't know. a hundred pieces off of his skin? No, he, that was Sitting Bull. Maybe that's what I'm remembering. Did you find anything about Crazy Horse cutting pieces of his skin off? And a lot of their methods involved pain. And yet they found value in self-torture.

1:46:02 And everybody around the village like gets to tease you and throw a little That one you can see has a little bit of the white savior thing to it. And I wanted to follow that. could do what we can to pay that back learn from it my and my fear is that if Right. Why is that left out when it's one of our best stories? Like I was talking to some of these guys out here earlier

1:49:27 There's Jack Hayes, there's, you know, Quanah Parker, there's the formation of the Texas Yeah. and built that star house. That's what was really wild. If you can look up the story of William Weatherby, the Creek warrior, Red Eagle, he led this Okay, his whole village is getting wiped out in there. He's the leader and they're like, where's William? doesn't come in, we're going to just really devastate these people. We're going to, you know,

1:53:18 What they do to them? Well Andrew Jackson actually said this dude's so brave Let's go imagine being a fly on the wall during that meeting. Yeah, see that guy coming and sit down was in charge back then. Yeah. Crazy shit, dude. The actual truth is stranger than fiction. how they put the feces on the arrows to poison them. What's that gonna to be like?

1:55:50 be honored, dude. We should be thinking about them going, we're Americans. We're bad ass. We Crazy stuff. It's a great thing. I can't thank you enough being here is such an honor, you know helping me get my art out there to the world There it is. Bye, everybody.