Joe Rogan Experience #2153 — Dave Smith Transcript
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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. It's like an age thing too, because that used to kind of be the line that liberals would But saying young, poor black kids than a white liberal. Weak people scare the shit out of me more than even like totalitarians do sometimes because they eventually become totalitarian We weren't at war really kind of we were but yeah wasn't affecting us, right?
2:59 And I haven't been to San Francisco in years. And I'm like downtown, and we were going, And I was just thinking about that. And I'm not saying like bash the homeless people Well, what they need is a reasonable plan Francisco is amazing. I lived there in the 70s. I lived there during the Vietnam War Good Lord, good Lord did you kill it Yeah, yeah, yeah, terrible things happen to people.
6:24 you can have discipline and be a kind person and being compassionate person They show a guy on a farm cracking open a beer. just make money trading money and it's bullshit. Yep. They're still there. They're wearing masks right now while they're listening to this screaming Because like everybody's had points in their lives where they've just felt really bad for themselves. We've all had it. We all do it. It's a part of human nature. That's right. But it's also poison and anybody who's successful has learned how to conquer
9:12 one of them smoking a cigar talking about this. I'm poor compared to Elon. How does he eat? He's a wild boy. I will buy Teslas as long as they sell them, who dunks on people. And Don Lemon's like, Yep. Don't be this thing, this journalistic, It's bad for humanity. and the person hosting the show. start bringing up all these stories about different drugs,
13:01 Everyone should be vaccinated. It's like everyone forgot about it. with heart attacks, all these people with strokes, all these people with heart attacks, doesn't it almost in some way be like, Sure. Listen, I don't wanna go too hard right now because I want him to show up. anything. And he goes, all right, Joe Rogan was right. smeared someone for something then realized he was 100% right and I was 100% wrong and when
16:18 I really do. happen. My guess on it is that, number one, he had a book. of the White House and I know, they're very into that, which my favorite was when he goes, And then he just demonstrated on your show Like it's always better to have natural immunity that the vaccine is always trying to simulate natural. This is what was so fucked all the research I've done on previous diseases,
19:23 Jimmy Dore is awesome, I love him. is like psychologically what happens when one thing is offered that seems to So people don't know. and he tells you every time a guy gets an answer wrong And then they would tell him to do it again cocktail party with this really like this guy with all this status and he's Even people who really, really should know better.
22:15 I'm kind of fascinated by the people in the corporate press, That's really what it was. and kind of getting that all wrong. but particularly the allegation of a conspiracy with Russia, He was installed by a hostile foreign power They'll still say there's evidence. It's like people still want to say there's evidence. but they say it's the easiest thing to fake,
24:46 of interfering in elections with other countries that in terms of whether or not that's It's a very crazy one because you're mocking something that someone can't change this is always against that's against left-wing You're supposed to not mock a person's appearance. But if a man was like that it'd be this and she went through all these And after literally her last segment
27:35 They're not really talking about it like a human. They're just where it was like it issue. Was that what it was, Jamie? Where it was like, it went viral. Whole lot of great hits. It's not, yeah, it's like you have to be on that network. I probably did save it somewhere on my phone. And it's just like, you point this out all the time, that just wasn't nearly enough time.
29:49 And that's a two hour debate. I mean now you could post longer stuff, Hezbollah and he lays it all, you're like, Jesus Christ, there's so many layers to this I mean- her hair and she's got blood all over her and they had hacked her heels to make sure I think comedians have this thing and he was way aggressive. It's just very easy for me be like yeah I'll sign up for Hamas I'll support these guys who are going to do
33:28 But he said, and I think this is right, and not do what so many people seem to do, They're somehow or another responsible. people exactly And they throw fucking soup at masterpieces. Well, this is the problem with teams man scholars. Yeah, they really they make you work and tyranny all in one, where if you follow the rules, That's why I say my message is always reject the teams and come be a libertarian and lose with me. Just keep losing
38:03 President a president AI will be logical. He's got to give a press conference. We're going to be the old school guys who are like, People are gonna be like, you have sex with your wife? that I've found kind of amazing, I'm not saying there's anything unique to Israel, in the history of the world. have to do because otherwise this, and it's amazing the mental gymnastics that people
40:47 Everyone knew it everyone had an understanding of that. So when we were at war people were signing up to go to war Which they didn't even need in order to be right. But then you find out, you're going to draft them and force them to go because they don't want to go. For the good folks. It was responsible for 80%. responsible for over 80% of the global supply
43:58 We are not interested in that at all. We just want to push freedom where you were talking about the, Woo! in the middle of nowhere allowing the Taliban to kill all the people we worked with. but if you really think that heroin is a scourge, and if you really do appreciate that a hundred Bro, do you don't think that has something to do with it? And it failed.
46:52 Yeah, we don't send it over there. Just send them that shit send them everything they need and more and then do you have one of? Their flags you should wave it around. Yeah, and we'll provide the Congress will provide the flags That's how universally agreed upon it is. of choice for America. This is it. number five that's a great bit it's a great bit well I mean but great but in
49:06 by the Israelis, but there is no question that they are, Yeah. Now imagine that. Yeah now imagine that of Hamas, like, embedding themselves That's the way as they call it asymmetric warfare is gonna work but Gad, how do you say his last name? there'd be a genocide. down all their arms as could be. There's been several, I know, for sure. I think it's a big number.
52:15 about why you were really wrong with the, So they're targeting these people some so you've got some everyone will be free and whatever. over what these 20-year-olds are hollering at Columbia, And, like, now, even if you could argue is that you're supposed to kill the women and the children. but they said it's plausible. Well, hey, now you don't look so good anymore,
55:02 that had zero side effects and was 100% effective, you know what I mean? I'm just saying I'm not against engaging in a thought experiment to think about what that That's never going to happen. Like if Hamas did lay down all their weapons, Maybe not. Like literally since this party, that is the ruling party in Israel was created, their if you really think about it.
58:04 so it's not exactly the same as an individual, but like, of suffer this trauma and and and we're speaking collectively here So it's not exactly the same as an individual them is so strong and they're right next door to each other, which is how people used to you know what I mean? and things are just cool now, between the, was it 1948, 56, 67, and 72 or 73?
59:42 But it was really England. You have to do it, it's the only way to go to war. Maybe I did. were terrorists. was to drive out the occupying force But so they embraced terrorism to drive them out. But then the same Israelis will turn around and be like well It's a whole different thing to try to drive someone out Well, that's the major difference. Because the Biden administration is not giving
1:03:09 Because my Twitter feed seems like he's doing a great job. And it's the newest. Why would they send you to Detroit to deal with COVID? Remember back in 2009? I think you two together would be a fascinating conversation Number one was that he started by kind of getting into Mortality is calculated and then you get a better idea of what was really going on there.
1:05:40 And, but anyway, but even that, with a doctor who just got back from Gaza, okay, well this many Hamas people are dying Is there any other option besides doing this? and have actual soldiers at the border. he had started to ally with some even further this they could stop and Israel can still protect itself in fact I'd argue but he, but maybe he just wasn't familiar with all of this as much because I if not he was kind of being dishonest but he
1:08:49 on this since the war broke out. Well here, well let me, okay, so here's the deal, right? So Hamas maintains power. We don't have to fulfill our promise and that it's not on tape. And he also confirmed that like, yes yes, Benjamin Anya said this. Now, take that for what it's worth. all throughout the political spectrum. how Netanyahu's support for Hamas
1:11:41 The New York Times just ran a piece, Yeah, here you go Retired Israeli general Shlomo Brahm If the extremist Hamas ruled Gaza, And so that's, okay, so that's essentially the point there, Like it was recognized by DC at the time, But he was alive. but we have the right to Gaza and the West Bank. because it gave 55% to the Jews, So they're accepting 22%.
1:15:35 we're starting the peace process to eventually give It's called a clean break a new strategy for securing the realm and it was written by Richard Pearl and David Worms are and a couple other are all caught up in this peace process thing where you're talking about giving the Palestinians But the clean break strategy was like, no, no, no, you're going to embark on what ultimately became the Netanyahu doctrine that
1:17:40 environment in cooperation with Turkey and Jordan by weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria. This effort can focus on removing Saddam Hussein from power But certainly some stuff. where as soon as Israel's mentioned and I highly recommend people read, Even though we bankroll Israel. They go there on tour. They have tours they go there. Yes, that's a very big deal to them.
1:21:05 Is there a recording of this? but only after it was determined that we could, like, Israel And the only other thing I'll say about this, Let me tell you, I know something, I think what they do to the Palestinians is fucked up and it's inexcusable and they should stop Joe Biden doesn't know what he's saying because he's got dementia But then you don't get our money and our weapons.
1:23:44 a position of people on the left, right? of left-wing thought, like Noam Chomsky like the majority of young people now. It's a big thing in this country and universities. I think 85% of Jews are Democrats or something like that and And they're basically, so Yitzhak Rabin got assassinated and there was another meeting at Camp David to miss an opportunity.
1:26:50 and then it was after Sharon had this visit off of the idea that, like, When you... essentially, when you take away and a lot of this culminated in the Abraham Accords, But what was the reason why relations weren't normalized? September 11th right around the time that he sent the head of Mossad into Qatar to make sure the money kept going to Hamas basically from the river to the sea will be all Israel which is what it has been
1:30:11 kind of as, you know what I mean, peace certificate signed by the president in both houses of Congress because look I don't have to ever do a two-state deal but if you remember, I know we talked about this, might put pressure on Assad to have to step down. there was one point when Obama called ISIS JV. And there's a lot of people at the highest level
1:32:25 These guys are nothing compared to our strength. If Palestine becomes a country controlled by Hamas. because what if when they get their own state, nor to safely let it go. who are allowed to get guns? And most people all get together and organize Yeah, we fucked up. Yes deserve that sorry first place and look I I also do think that there are so many people who want to resist this total domination by the Israelis. You
1:35:28 he was the one who coined the term insurgent math. radicalized by the fact that you just killed someone they loved. or Hamas-like organizations. Yeah, but again, like I will say You know what I mean? fun and it's just cool and like so there is something beautiful about that where support these acts of terrorism, And in order to get to that step, where they were talking about what they could do
1:39:00 And then they'll be like, well, we really do think that every country should take in That's also a thing, right? other than this assertion I'm sure they can kill some Hamas militants in there I don't think the Israeli government knows. And I don't think, uh, I, And you could look at like DNA records and who was enlisted in the military and you could just like match
1:41:33 this is the Gaza health ministry, which is overseen by Hamas. It must be insane to live lived there before October 6th They drop warning bombs and they drop leaflets and they tell you no problem It's not that easy. Like you might have little children with you or old people when you're talking about like inflicting this level of human suffering on a group of people, like whoever's defending that man,
1:43:57 like that I guess on some superficial level I can understand that but like You could argue the most natural human right he's on your property. He broke into your property. You could say, hey, that's horrible, the right to revenge, the right to justice, which, okay, What do you think Hamas thought Israel was gonna do? So like Osama Bin Laden never thought
1:47:01 that Israel would overreact in this way, have really grappled with this fact. ruled that this is a plausible because there's a case to be made for it. That is kind of my, yeah. You know what? I mean cuz the weather was so bad and also it's not taking out the that it was something else They don't make me feel good. That thing seems weird. But I just feel I've never been in a helicopter,
1:50:35 The handful of times I've been in a helicopters with him. We're flying around downtown, LA. You can just fly around of the idea of flying in a helicopter, and you're just flying around buildings in downtown LA. And it's kind of leisurely because they don't go that fast right right leisurely flying around downtown I'm like this is crazy, and then you look at a lot of those buildings on downtown LA
1:51:49 Fucking Bill Burr. This is like right after that he went and bought the hat. Right, who he kind of plays off of him. Yeah, and then like he's just reading their question And he was definitely like, I mean, he wasn't as, It's like, I almost like, it's almost like you see, A gay right-wing guy who used to sell subprime mortgages That I believe. Look at him there with the fucking glasses.
1:54:42 I did. Well, I can't believe Nancy Pelosi actually did What does that mean? Clouded by guns, gays, God. What? What does that mean? Clouded by guns, gays, God. What Substitute what they mean by democracy is our rule over you like in a sense. That's what they mean Oh man, I'm blanking on his name. And the crowd was so hostile to Bannon. Gee, I wonder why.
1:57:38 I know me and you have talked about this a bunch before, Yeah. or they're Instagram, social media personalities So what if you have a really big account? Like steps between like it's not like a campaign is directly paying you Right, like what the NIH did with Gain of Function research. Yeah, those guys are crazy. They're so good at making you whatever.
2:00:28 I don't know, but maybe the biggest one was that And I mean, I thought I totally backed it up with like, Victory lap, but kind of 50% for that reason, but just late last year we refused to agree to that and could have just made an agreement that Ukraine won't be in NATO and not done I think there's a lot of them that are jack of all trades. congressman questions. And then he made like a video where he
2:03:53 propping up Hamas for all of these years. None of them even have the foggiest idea fundraise It's just like being the president. like they're in a position of expertise. or you didn't read the book. And then like one more, but what do you mean by that? I'll know a little bit at least I mean some I you know have an understanding of the history of the conflict
2:07:03 do you think you can expand on that? I kind of agree with AOC's starting statement, There's not a chance that you can lay out in yourself and sound like, hey, that guy knows by calling you on your bullshit. I don't almost feel bad like because she was such a like I think she was in her 20s She's going, oh, baby girl. They'd go and we'd be like that could never happen here. Listen to what they said
2:10:05 No, I ain't nothing. I do have a point of order. We are going to move and we're going to take your words down. I am not apologizing. There's a little time to concoct a little moment like she goes over to a SC. She's like whenever you're I got a good one Yeah, that's insanity. But the only thing that gives me hope is that maybe enough competent people will see these folks and go you know
2:12:53 But that's not you know, I must best use of his abilities but to buy Twitter and just be like, hey look Well, I mean but then if you did that the thing is like this is what all the conspiracy theorists are actual hearing they were having because after that happened they went into chaos I think the simplest explanation is that she just wanted to insult that chick eyelashes. That's probably that's my guess
2:15:26 maybe she didn't think it was the whole thing, and then someone came up to her and was like hey It was just like a lie like it's like, you know That's great well he's a con man in a fucking sea of con men according to New York mag he lied about this I'm just going down the list. with non-existent loans and contributions Look the the inside trading is off the chart that is it is so crazy that that's legal
2:18:44 entire career is they were public servants and they ran a charity. hundreds of millions of dollars, and you ran a charity, the Clinton Foundation. And now there'll be corruption in, say, some Eastern European But we have like the prison guard union lobbying to keep mandatory minimums on marijuana rarely. It was just kind of accepted that like all of these people are rich. Yeah. And
2:21:04 for some strange reason Okay, so this is maybe one of the reasons you know, say corporations contribute to political yeah, but they always find a way to get, look those speeches that's not contributing to anyone's campaign because you're not allowed to do that. And then they stopped being so interested. There's because there's a thing about charitable foundations like everyone who's like really rich seems to have a foundation
2:23:36 So he sells his stock and then starts talking badly about them. ah, ah, ah, that's like the most expensive real estate in the country. They're all camping out in front of his house is the Palestine free Palestine people and so they've decided to constantly protest in front of his house of all time. Do prefer taking it to the people who are actually somewhat responsible over just kind of in can go into Jerry Seinfeld shows
2:26:13 Oh, you got a little spot over there, oh, how much money can I extract from this pot but you don't feel like you have you seen pictures of the house he lives in? Case sold his estate to the kingdom of Saudi Arabia for 43 million in 2018 Oh, there was a little image back there if you click images real estate images and all the taxes spend all their fucking their
2:29:16 If you're comfortable selling your soul, there's a really nice house party and with lobbyists whoo You know you're also you're hanging around with these guys and they get comfortable with you I'm so real like they did with McChrystal like with that embedded reporter. Yeah. Yeah when well that was Michael Hastings After a few months, or a few weeks at least.
2:30:51 Yeah, and he was forced to resign and there's something really interesting about that though You know, like, that wasn't the thing about the Mossad They're fucking good, man. They're good, and they catch those dirtbags those dudes You're like look enough already And it looks like this case is falling apart. $30,000 from the Trump campaign. came right they put the sheets saying that right and then they saw like there
2:34:01 was constantly being trapped, And then they were all like, okay, whatever. Sheets used that they had to start using handwritten sheets to cover up the classified info. That's what they say, right secret. It certainly gave, it gave an impression of something that was classified and top secret. It gave an impression on it that says those things and you photograph them,
2:36:09 we don't have to do that. reelection or election campaign. You can comment on the election. They got a fine? Oh they 100% I got in trouble because I said that if I was talking to a 21 year for so many years, that you can go back And it's just I but that's good. I don't want to go to court. I'm not interested in that. No, that's why. I mean dude 100% slam dunk. Yeah
2:39:38 They were trying to get back to hardcore objective journalism without some sort of editorial bias because they said, What do you think that means? Of course not. It's like, well, why is it when you're at CNN, which is, you know, Like one little action might be questioned every now and then, but the whole system as It won't. But I'm very encouraged by certain things, right?
2:42:13 You were talking, he got me with the UFOs. Well, I did definitely want to talk to him about that. and that they've always been here. he's had people inside the government And see if you could find him saying this, the same way you did it on Earth. You got to start with biological organisms that have there's kind of similar fish and kind of similar things, I don't know if that's the case.
2:45:36 How about that mind fuck listen it is a mind fuck Maybe containers of souls. You can come up with whatever theory you want. quantum computing power I like to be open-minded to the point where but on the point of containers, isn't there something, or anyone would kind of agree with that, What is it from the reductionist atheist position, like electromagnetic waves in your brain?
2:48:57 He's like my dog son. I mean I think of him like a like a person like he snuggles with me They're the most loving and lovable dogs. I threw the ball into the water and he minutes. I threw the ball into the water, Yeah. Yeah, and he will never stop being Woo, woo, woo, woo. again if it's that simple, like chasing a ball. Well, I think that, but basically I think the qualities
2:51:17 So it's almost like we kind of kept the traits Carl over there, but that's that's what happened. That's what happened. Carl's cute, but he's not much of a wolf No, they did it in Russia. They did this experiment where they wanted to see how quickly they could You know through the the zeitgeist that these fucking foxes are getting shot. You know this like something in the air It's probably some psychic in the you know morphic resonance something in the field
2:53:48 wolves and dogs is that they do this experiment where they'll put a piece of meat and it's in a cage, And that's like one of the differences is that Dogs look to you as the leader. That's me, motherfucker. They're jumping up on the table and knocking everything off and they're not responding to down or here boy That's a big wolf man. Yeah, it sure is
2:56:25 And it's like a book on evolution, It couldn't get its own food for a sec. Yeah, literally carries it, cleans its ass, So like imagine if there was some sort of apocalyptic scenario all the power went off would it just breed the harshest and toughest Killers again, that would be trained. It'd be almost like they're not kept in childhood. They've become kind of grown-ups again
2:58:46 So that went the other way. Like they developed something that can fuck Caucasian that one I think is even more ferocious I Everybody else is a welterweight and this motherfucker shows up. really does look like what the Russians would do with a dog. Of course that's I think we covered it all, Dave Smith. to save the old world, Well, I still I still believe in humans
3:01:45 I gotta get him to lift some weights. He's just read everything about what's happening.