Joe Rogan Experience #2163 — Freeway Rick Ross Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Yeah, yeah. You know who inspired that shirt? I think I did you did You didn't know that part of the story. You know, and I left the show, I was a little hot. hey Rick, I heard you on Joe Rogan the other day. and he give me 100 t-shirts. And the t-shirt went crazy. hey man, here's $100,000, see what you can do with it, it might come through the back door.

3:17 And she went and checked the bank account, man. You know I wrote this book, this was kind of like Okay, you sell drugs, yeah, you might get a big house, Your story is incredible. were selling crack in the hood, go to jail, you learn how to read in jail, learn how to become a lawyer in jail, figure out that they, the way they did you with three strikes was bullshit

5:51 Wow. that's for all three. because you had a conviction in Texas crazy man. I mean, you know, and my fucking kids now playing tennis. Yeah. Wow. Wow. I met some great people. What happened? Well you know we shot the documentary and when see how much money was being made. On a documentary in your life? Did I put money? I put, I took So, John Singleton?

10:21 He bought one for 100 bucks, which I thought was like, So I totally understood. But other than that, you know, it's been alright. There's a lot of people that disappoint you in this life. And I think that's ridiculous. And there's a lot of good people out there that just get fucked. Made a bad mistake. Made a bad mistake in a bad Well, not only that, all the entertainers

12:57 I used to be a drug dealer. Somehow or another it's okay Like you're absolved of all your crimes and all your sins and you're welcome in society because you're very popular Yeah, and then then we had one dude on who wasn't wrongly convicted The whole thing was so crazy, but the dude was like, we were hanging out with that guy that day took him to the comedy club that night it's like it

15:21 What are you doing here? It was an insane cultural moment because I remember, I was young at the time, I remember Oliver North and George Bush and Ronald Reagan and crazy. And then the CIA come to my cell Like you and your brothers used to change pants Michael Rupert was the cop that- and Michael was courageous. That scared the shit out of people. Yeah, I see the movie the movie was just him sitting there chain-smoking

18:38 And he was telling people back then, and so I'm working with different homeless organizations. Miles of these places and Oakland is is Oakland's crazy. Oakland is terrible. It's so crazy We don't have anything to clean this problem up this massive problem and all those people all those people out there are wasted was in prison because I didn't want to come out and get into the same thing that put me

20:58 because I couldn't fill out an application you know, my break was you putting on that damn t-shirt. Yeah, I had two new babies. heaven sent. Like, yes, I got a way to get me some traction now. But without that kind we asked it, like, how would you solve the crime problem? How would you solve the homelessness I think it's called Community First. Hold on a second, I'm gonna find out real quick. Yeah,

24:19 People are incredible artists. and third chance. If your brother was on drugs, would you say throw him in jail different, you know, different people around you giving you bad advice, different, you really want to make America great? But what you can have is change the amount of opportunity When people see other people win, they can duplicate that. That was not in my plan to do no t-shirt.

26:57 I mean, they're on computers and I'm like, Like you say, someone was on drugs or whatever, and scary for them and they'd rather have the structure First, you have to come to, you know, for me, crazy busy, I would do three million dollars that day. Buy houses, businesses. South Central was redlined at that time. I didn't know what a million dollars was

30:15 was a tennis player and take my girlfriend to the movies. Yeah, well, nobody ever, nobody ever sent me down Met him a few times. And when I saw cocaine, shoot, they come over I wanna be the one to make them happy like that, dear. I mean, I was a little successful at tennis, you know, Yeah, you know put gas in your car They're still giving money to criminals,

33:44 Because in order to get rid of drugs the other two are gonna create that one again. I was always terrified that I was gonna do something And I don't want nothing's gonna take away my focus. It was horrible. of what we're doing by making drugs illegal is so crazy because all we're a gold-plated gun and pennies but it's the value that we create that attracts people to Coke.

37:13 Start off selling and they get curious and when I looked up, I had like $300. I said, you know what, I'm never doing it again. and he was a very straight-laced guy, but that thought is never out there, I mean, if you just imagine the things that we're dealing with and we have to get people that are more sensible. When I got home and found out that marijuana was legal,

40:07 Hey, you were smoking when I was on the show, Oh, what do you got here? And apparently it's legal federally so you can just get The day I get off parole high times high time event the day I get off parole I'm still under this impression next thing you know, I'll be back doing coke. And I felt better. I mean, you know, like the commercials, I bet you did.

43:22 you know, first they didn't want convicted felons Right. A hundred percent, but at least it's a schedule three. Which is, what is schedule? What's also listed in schedule three? flavored partially at least by cocaine coke is scheduled to schedule for less that's funny Xanax Xanax is for I know a lot of people been fucked up by Xanax They taxed the shit out of us in California.

46:39 That are getting paid for these pro like the homeless programs in Los Angeles. It's just a scam when you run their credit, their credit is fucked. some low income houses, know. rejuvenate and the money circulates into the community. And that makes everything better for everybody. Absolutely. Yeah. What kind of crazy motherfucker It's very unfortunate.

49:19 You're like, I'm so powerful, I don't think that helps anybody. That's the beginning of the end. So, you know, we got to go through the worst, you know, everybody buckled up and We've been going the wrong way. how young they were? I haven't. It's crazy. One of them was 18. He's out of it. He's just trying to not let go of his position of power and that's well a lot of them and they get there through

52:01 real life They work their way up the ladder. Different everything, could have been them. when you feel privileged for no reason. You know. Right. If you go out and you do is they elevate everyone around them, Yeah, I mean there's so many people just by virtue Like that guy did it, I can do it. And then you do that. and a work ethic, that translates to everything.

54:56 You know, because once you get beat down, give this to our children because if we don't, our children are gonna be in trouble. So everybody is supposed to be on that team together. You should want to be a philanthropist. I mean I got off by doing that. but you make you feel good too. I used to look up to Tookie Williams. supposed to be helping save lives, not destroying our life. What was it like

58:32 Because when you don't believe in yourself, and you only really need one idea my mind weed free. I wasn't planning on selling drugs no more. And I don't even know I said this, how much. Unconsciously. Yeah. And I just put my head down because I knew that That's all it took. Right. Yeah. That's also a part of the problem. Drug dealers have a lot of money.

1:02:45 nice this, nice clothes. Why would you ask somebody not to feed their kids, That was gonna ruin everything. Huh. Have people in other countries that are extremely poor work for You know, you might have to go through a little something. but it's gonna be legal. We are people. We are. It's us. It's us. It's just one team. Team human. That's a win baby.

1:05:18 I agree. because it ain't proper on the air about it because and they really gonna put themselves out of business He takes his claws and go like this here. They're not even from the Everglades? there's a photo of one of a 12-foot alligator bursting out of the body of a Everybody set limits. Okay we're gonna make this amount of money. There's the same patterns those patterns exist in politics in business in everything drug dealing gangbanging

1:08:51 Let's make the community better. And me, I want people to say, in order to be an example of someone I'm a fuck-up, but that's not really the case They're a human being with either bad information It's unfortunate this mentality that people have it's a famine mentality and there's enough for everybody when you lay your head down, you're like, And I think that's a big problem that we have and you know hopefully we can start working on that. Have you met this rapper that has been running around

1:12:01 Madonna hurt him that was like the first one. Yeah, there's a few different fights fat and out of shape and then leaned himself down to where he had a six-pack It takes a long time to get back to where you were. for as many rounds as the fight is. And like, okay, you know who's the same age They are throwing so much money at boxing And his hands are like rocks.

1:14:35 So I went to that fight and Terrence was there So I'm taking Terrence in that fight as well. Yeah, crazy. No, he's clever. He's like I knew I had a gamble on this But you can't fake that game. Not skipping days. You know that comes out of price and some people the only person that I know that has really been able to avoid that temptation looked like he was on the plane working out.

1:18:11 you don't get to be a Floyd Mayweather any other way yeah there's a lot of You have to stay focused, always. you know, and I'm at the point in my life that I know I just signed the kid. But I got about four national champs which is their brain, you're trying to knock their brain out, And then they have so much influence over our people, man. And that's why I got into boxing.

1:20:52 That's crazy. But is there any video of anybody, He was a corrections officer. that they would be shooting dice, But most officers don't even care. They say that's the kind of comp he was like and then when I hear that he's the biggest gangster rapper on the planet crazy because the name was famous your name was famous everybody knew who you man the guy knows who you are everybody knows who you are, everybody knows who you are, takes your name. I mean it's like, it

1:24:34 So that was the date that the public first became known that he was using the name. should have filed my lawsuit five days before I got out of jail. Oh, you know how much money they say they spend on the lawsuit how much one and a half million dollars? and one of my biggest concerns was her being homeless. It's licensed. Meanwhile, they spent 1.5? Oh my God.

1:27:03 Well, we appealed it, but you know, Like, you know, you stole that name if you'd have heard if you'd have heard the thing that he did, you know and I stood up to shake his hand, Oh, my goodness, I don't know where he got the story from. I would have been like- who you were. I had heard the story. I don't even remember when I read about it. When Gary

1:29:45 I don't. it's all over the world. CNN, Nightline, I mean, it was like, fuck, I become a celebrity in jail. Like, they start treating me differently. Yeah, that's all I know. I don't know if he was a Contra or CIA informant. I don't know I'm not paying no attention to that. Do you think there's like a rogue element Not that they necessarily sanctioned it,

1:32:49 See, I admit it. Right. Because the Vietnam War was started with a false flag. They made it up just to get us to go to war. And they did it knowing. Right, I understand. Including 415,000 deaths and estimated by the Defense Department gave They felt that that was the greatest threat at that time to our democracy. And they probably did it during Afghanistan too.

1:36:16 You know we were just saying I think that's a lot of the Afghanistan war too We are guarding it What and it didn't become that until Situations like what you got here with your podcast the people wouldn't even know about this stuff. Since I've been home, I feel I have done some amazing things. They thinking that it's some boogie man Those are the ones that you trust.

1:39:20 Nobody covers this. You know, why is he not being talked about? That's where it went to went to a bunch of people's salaries. It didn't fix shit. You're not gonna do that shit. And he still is. How many years ago was this case? I guess he just wanted the biggest crazy, But that's our system. and the kids accused me of stealing his name. Wow. I It's good to see you having.

1:43:44 Like there's like I said that Delta 9 stuff. That's legal. Yeah. You know? Because it's taking away tax dollars. Well CBD is different. We're talking about Delta 9 THC, but CBD should be the same. got arrested in Russia for CBD vape pen, right? CBD is phenomenal for inflammation. It's so good just for just general well-being and just health and Because they sell it in every smoke shop.

1:45:27 that actually sell marijuana. What happens next? The process of reclassifying a substance But the DEA has not yet formed its own determination as to where marijuana should be scheduled, They got big budgets. Genie cast a magic spell on the world and everybody just stopped committing crimes where that was going. They allowed private prisons. drugs. Other questions surrounded the coordination of federal regulations

1:48:17 So what happens if it's all 50? Door you gotta be on death's door. Look give them one joint and California, Colorado, Missouri, Illinois, Minnesota, Montana, Washington, Oregon, Man during the 70s when Hunter s Thompson's day you, you, you have to have the states give the states anti-everything people. Yeah. They're gonna be watching TV. It's still illegal.

1:52:08 Yeah, or you, yeah. You shoot them. How much money did they blow? But you know what's so funny? The people who used to lock everybody up, now they're selling it. If I had my way, that's what I would do. Hey, did you lock somebody up? You know and the and we give people power over other people people that don't have their shit together a power over other people

1:55:02 We talked about it the other day on the podcast, this Assyrian tablet that talked about the end of the world, Like the access to information that people have right now is unprecedented. Oh, yeah, the fact that we continue to make the same stupid mistakes Yeah, they own it. you talk to people and you be like, man, that didn't work. Yeah, hire more police. Yeah, it's just

1:57:09 especially if you're talking about hip hop. I mean, if you turn on hip hop radio stations, And then they wonder why the kids bring guns to school. That they have some sort of and gang activity and to do it in popular music. Is it bullshit? It talked about the big meeting where all the record labels got together You know that they don't they don't they don't promote no no positive music, you know, no love songs

2:00:15 Promote drug dealings. How'd you get this house? is getting paid by the record companies. So that's what they believe. I believe that they really is they don't help anybody. the discipline, he has the focus that he's going to make it. a successful drug dealer's perspective. They talked about jeans. What are they doing? Oh, that's it. No I think the guy real name was Calvin McLean. Really? Oh that's his real name. You know because he was a real street guy.

2:04:14 Got it. you were selling drugs, but you weren't selling drugs, that can't be looked upon well. Now, people can write your lyrics, They can kind of make anybody famous. on the radio because it's the same producers But then you have people who just stand out just because of talent still you still have that once once in a while They don't want someone coming along.

2:06:49 I walk through the airport, right? other than Twitter, X, now, he's been on this podcast like how many times? How many times has Coleon been on? Five, six? Five or six times? Great guy. Interesting. Really fun to talk to. Smart It's hard to find people they make it difficult on some social media platforms to find people What are you at now? Okay, let's let's check right now. I'm gonna check your page right now

2:09:31 392 so you're at our episode. Recognized what a podcast was and started a podcast. I would have been the first black guy probably with a podcast that's crazy and they still remember that well you should do your own now i'll be so You know, you upload to YouTube, it's free. talk about all kinds of things you could interview different people you could have

2:12:49 What kind of fucking podcast is this? Yeah, and then people hear your story and they're like, oh my god yourself that has gone through this arc of life. This interesting arc of life. That finds You're just in the business. so you say 360 days in a year, I was making 500,000 a day. It's crazy. With some crazy numbers. you did and what you went This is how it happened.

2:16:35 Oh, he's a danger to the community. And even when we went to jail, And you can't even use the bathroom. You know. I mean, my mission in life became And you already, you're not gonna spend And somebody asked me before, do I have any regret? so you can get my drugs cheap and good. The price is gonna be right. shit. I failed science in school because I couldn't read. I never went to science. They

2:20:12 they taught me. green. Man, we missed one of the greatest fucking interviews, man. The guy I bought he told us, and what I I should have did I should have promised out of the bag and I didn't know we had took it out the bag. What's really crazy is that even though that sounds like, but I understand now, like you're saying, When I first got into the weed business,

2:23:17 Shit, I can't smell shit. Like a sativa. and he just invented this strictly for me. But it's gonna have that sweet candy taste You know, it really does. Yeah, well, they're still not using fentanyl. it's all cut with fentanyl. being made with marijuana, like the good progress is states making it thing's stupid. It's stupid. There's plenty of things. If alcohol is legal, marijuana should be legal. That simple. Alcohol destroys

2:27:39 say I sold drugs right you never would have heard that before. No not like this. calls you up. When someone gets suspicious. Yeah don't get addicted because if you get But at least you documented it. I self-publish it, yeah. been 21 keys of success. Those are 21 keys that I used when I got out of And I also bought you one of my sweatshirts. And you know what?

2:29:50 yeah, but I did so well the last time you told me to do something and And that benefits everybody. Okay. Alright.