Joe Rogan Experience #2165 — Jack Carr Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Everybody was amazing. Ron wait came up to say hi afterward and was in that booth somebody Yeah, all right, right. We need more of that in life. Kid you go to the movies you just see lit up phones everywhere now. It's crazy. That's what I was saying phone like what are you doing I got pretty good he makes the beeps too so Okay, yeah, I don't think so. I'm trying to think of your text.

3:00 whole bunch of them that they use all the time that I have to like think yeah You know, something like that. and all the socials and everything else, Watching YouTube I mean I've done a few times like if I have to go away on vacation or something like that And then whatever I'm doing is not as good. To family days yeah, nah fun like yesterday And you have a shotgun just blasting zombies.

6:25 So you feel it when they're grabbing you what yeah, what's a haptic feedback like a Titans? Somebody proud of right there Nice all right. Yeah, you think my little guy down there gotta do. Yeah, so fun. Oh, that's good to know those thrills they don't they don't appeal to me no they're not used to do So yeah, we did that and then I think that's it for us.

9:02 Yeah, sorry kids. talked and I still haven't really been in it because I plugged it in or whatever You gotta get a solution, I bet there's one thing you didn't think to lock. Your internet connection. it doesn't just keep hackers out it also prevents your internet provider from seeing your Rogan tap the banner to learn more. Oh, yeah, this was not this just gets kind of not even uncomfortable

12:00 Frank same thing we have in here in the studio. Yeah, you've got to get a real heater. But days off are, they don't really exist yet. I just love history. We just tend to relearn things over and over again. and 58 French paratroopers and it was the biggest loss of life for the Marine How do you collaborate something like that with a historian? oh man, it'd be amazing to collaborate

14:39 But in something like that, you can't make a mistake. As soon as I started down that path of research, I realized it was gonna be a two year, every How many hours a day do you work? And so it doesn't seem like work, So it took a little longer than I than I anticipated but that's just because the story dictates Some authors like Stephen Hunter, Daniel Silva have aged their character in real time.

17:03 How the fuck is James Bond still kicking ass and they got a new James Bond coming out? And so you have post World War II era Great Britain. able to do now. You know, Tyler Perry was building an $800 million studio and he stopped No, Sora's just AI-generated video. And you're looking at you like, what? Camera moves through the bustling city street. Story of a Robot's life in cyberpunk settings.

19:31 I need to read the after the strike last year because there was an actor strike also as you know, Morning you'd have to write this out in a feather for every customer yeah fuck Mean and then these graphic engines the unreal engine 5 is fucking insane That's crazy. They so they have these graphic I have a very addictive personality with things that are difficult to do

22:03 Unreal Engine 5.4. I guess this is the newest version of it. What? That's wild. to the point where, you know, five, six years from now, Yeah. No, I can't, no. and you know, you go cross fields and you'll be able to do that. I mean, I remember when the Dance Dance Revolution came, People lose like 50, 60 pounds playing this game, which I support. Yeah, it's big smile on Jamie's face. Well, I would imagine they would want to get involved in something like that

25:12 But if you were the, like, let's imagine the National Security Agency is an important thing for this country to have, you probably would have to have someone go Technology has increasing at an exponential rate That's a lot of and so imagine with this with AI that just went in the latest update And it also it does a lot of wild shit like you could circle a picture

27:47 instead of trying to stay away from it, I think that's a part of what people enjoy., so look like this like the artwork on the walls here I just think it's cool. every now and again. and documented on the internet. At the end of the day, I had a fucking pounding headache. and these cool colors and flavors. You know probably I mean, I don't know what the caffeine amount was but it was extraordinary

30:22 I'm not being interrupted is like 10 a.m. Still to like 3 4 in the morning I pulled so many all-nighters for this one So that goes back to the phone handing that off to somebody having other people do some things that I can focus on the writing like make hay while the sun's shining? I think maybe there's a little bit of that Yeah, like granny does a new gray man every year. Yeah

32:12 Well, I think when you get a little, maybe, when you get a little older, like John Grisham, and you're not doing social media and you're not writing a blog and you're not updating with books, so people read less now. They're not doing that podcast. So the first one I was learning. yeah getting those things going they nailed it man that show is as close to

34:10 Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah, and shout out to Foundation Cigars for hooking us up. Those guys suck. And so it's Jonathan Hastings talking to James Reese I have had cigar. I have Lady at the yeah, that's what they do there. You're supposed to know all that stuff body cabernet I mean do you still use a laptop mm-hmm? I would encourage you to not I need to not yeah

37:20 It's like one point eight millimeters one of them one of the things I have is 2.2 millimeters of And so I have, yeah, Hemingway's typewriter. they've just got me it's been get around that though I'm not good at that sort of I need to get better at that sort of thing. I have notepads everywhere, send notes to or emails to like I could do this yeah Jack Carr is a bad

40:12 than you can on an iPhone. You give an email in the bottom while you're watching a video at the top, dude Don't get me wrong and one thing that I really love about Apple is it works with The Apple camera is amazing. I still have this iPhone 15. It's fucking great. It syncs up. It's horrible. This is horrible way easier. Yeah. Type it on your phone and then also you can slide back and forth to

42:12 There's a lot going on today. you can access Microsoft Word through a laptop, I know, it's so bad. Jamie's better than me, and Red Band's better than Jamie. Oh, man. That's smart. Steven Pressfield? And if you do that enough, the ideas will come to you. When I first read it, I felt like Pressfield But now as I'm getting older, I think creativity is a very strange thing. Like

45:33 where you're like, that is not from me. And I have a feeling that ideas themselves are almost like a life form Like almost spiritual? I don't know if I like that word because it's been co-opted by hippie I think the world is way stranger than we think. And I think our existence here is way stranger than we think. It sure behaves like a fucking real. That's true. It really does behave like a real thing and when you're living your life, right?

48:50 Yeah, you know like there's some It's not that clear. It collapses, and it's in Central South America somewhere, and they all die. And the story is you're doing a convoy, whatever you're doing, be and focus on the mission and focus on the guys and crush this thing and The enemy's always adapting to you. Which is war and that in order for you to be completely focused,

51:24 but she understood it you possibly could. So that's why on the weekends I was training. There are people You can also do all those things I just talked about and things can still go sideways. I'm going to do this run. because that's what I owe the guys So I went to the training command buds as my last couple years in which is when I started writing the first first book and

53:52 I'll at least, at least I know people to reach out to who can connect me with someone who spent but I can remember what it felt like to be on the receiving end. Did you write any short stories first? in the beginning of this as a nod oh, maybe I should be, if I'm gonna be a writer, a part of me, a part of my being, a part of this foundation that I can now build on.

56:25 doing back there, so they're gonna make all these changes. content edits at all and I didn't know it I'm stepping into this for the first as movies shaping our narrative of reality in a good way. I know that was how it was gonna be going in because I saw you know, you're watching like Oh, I've had a bunch of them. No, yeah. there's unscripted agent, there's podcast agent,

59:01 It's not like, oh, my agent, makes it so unique is that you know it's coming from one is always gonna exist even when AI shows his journey to get him to a place where he can do are. Yeah, I mean you have buy-in and it's good and bad because it's not gonna be a strict adaptation I mean, you get Sheriff Tisle's perspective. as well from that. So I was just like trying to play it cool, right?

1:02:08 We just got to hang out and talk and see if there was something that we could do together Yeah, and now late 70s still crush fucking Jean-Claude Van Damme. Yeah, what a great guy. He must! I think that's the difference between thinking of something and you're working your way up that ladder that the military would be like the most pure of all You can stay in the military for a long time. So you don't need to excel when you hit certain

1:05:03 That whole thing seemed insane ridiculous She's they were Taliban just killed a woman in front of them just openly like put her head on So in 2003 in Afghanistan, and I thought it was catching the tail end of it then Their backstories and what that life was like in the late 70s through the 80s into the 90s Know about that story don't know about all the people that worked with the United States over there. They're fucked

1:07:49 It's just hard to imagine that that's Yeah, well all that stuff I get to yeah James Bond and his creation. about Teslas and GPS's in cars and GPS's in phones or something like that? Whereas in the 80s or 70s, like that guy's gone, how are you Yeah, if you are running around in a city I've seen a lot, but I don't know if I've seen Who got a bunch of plastic surgery and changed his appearance and changed his name?

1:11:26 2020 four years ago. Gets plastic surgery and name change to date his ex-girlfriend after she Just be one of those urban legends and someone just took it too far. We found a disclaimer world news daily Obama and I think it's makeup. Yeah, well, they do the makeup. Let me see what it looks like He's got his face pulled back to try to look younger which never works just makes you look weird

1:14:50 It looks it does look odd. Yeah, you think he's probably being lit from a couple different spots Yeah. You could do that. But that requires so many people to be in on it, including the person being interviewed or the person interviewing Biden, all the people that are watching. And yeah, like you're at all this other people that actually do the work the tactical level work

1:16:37 400 other people, even more than that, And then that person can go spout out some political opinion and then I Like you've opened up this, Think there's a certain thing He's very rarely talking about things that are in the news You're not gonna see Daniel Day-Lewis in those. I don't know. He became a boxer for a full year. So they're throwing punches and it's not,

1:19:37 and I ran around the block from the moment I saw it. That's just absolutely never going to happen and not real. Yeah takes you out of it. You're like, ah We wanted them to know we at least tried. But the problem is sometimes it's too much hot sauce because I know how much work goes into making even the bad ones You have to respect that as soon as you make a film about something and the people in the film

1:21:32 but if you're trying to make a serious film He was Abraham Lincoln for like a year. reads the back of this paperback or whatever and is it interesting enough you don't like that. You have them talking to their kid, it would be Holzer, who has written 40 books on Lincoln. Yes, even the bad ones are good. I just started watching Peaky Blinders Yeah, bro. You haven't watched Peaky blinders. I know what's going on now. You know what?

1:24:21 which is still one of the greats. So right around September 11th. Right, 9-11, going down range, focused on that, They pop up on your feed and all that stuff. Well, I kind of write about that in here. Yeah, Reservoir Dogs. Where people are complicated. or whatever because of the way they're written, the way they come up. I mean, that was an amazing movie.

1:26:20 from the different gangs to do them. for the way things are depicted. Yeah, so I think I, for their involvement in the film. LA's oldest public housing Yeah, you could always worry about that It's pretty wild. I got off the plane yesterday and I hear this, Jack! No, and I think it might be the only way human beings I have Alice's character I introduced two books ago ago for in the in the blood and an AI quantum computer and people really liked this character

1:30:03 whatever it might be, they're all being built No one on it at all. Yeah, dang. The speed that this things go at the altitudes that they travel. Yeah, it's wild that's a real problem that people are terrified of when it comes to weapon Yeah. And not only that, but these supersonic ones can change directions. So you can't even picture where they're even out of bed. Yeah and not only that but these supersonic ones can change directions so you can't even picture where they're going.

1:32:14 We're already way past it as far as quantum computing AI and what the ability of those platforms I don't know I mean The big fear is that not only do they exist but maybe some of them are not ours I just think the whole thing seems when this technology was impossible. the rooms are named In UFO lore, they all started appearing and everything gets reorganized, right?

1:35:32 of 1,200 miles an hour. Yeah and so but people back then that saw those things there's no way that was the Soviets, Because look, the universe is, that's obviously a drawing. So what does the story say? Check the ups the observations the airport control tower radar operator verified the same sightings Look at that. It's impossible for us to even get our heads around how big it is now, so if there is some

1:38:33 about that part on here, And they have investigated a lot of these crash sites. And the way they describe them, You know, send them to some remote place, And you can still find these pieces of this, There's so many similar stories, but the problem is Microchips maybe goal. What is that stuff called fiber optics fiber optics fiber optics seem to emerge after that

1:41:19 Unless there's a reason behind it distraction. I mean who knows it's yeah, who knows When operation paperclip was going on and so they took all these Nazi scientists from Germany They would wear goggles. They're all like crazy like slices in their cheek. Yeah, show them some pictures cuz it's fucking crazy to see They like to have cauliflower ear right yeah back then you have your face sliced up. You're a psycho. Oh wow that's crazy

1:44:13 If the donation thing is true and that's been going on since who knows how long well, you know Well, it'd be a good, if you could travel back and forth there was no seams he said there was no seams. I mean, going back to 1963, The CIA killed Kennedy. No, Lee Harvey Oswald went to Russia Yeah, and all you have to think about There's other people, like Woody Harrelson's father,

1:47:29 Yeah, known murderer. of the Federal Reserve. You fire the guy, now he's in charge of investigating who assassinated you. I know it's there so much 1963 was a very pivotal year And I didn't know until Tucker explained it on the show Crazy. It's a great story. Yeah, it was interesting. Yeah, nice to meet you suspect person exactly. Yeah, I was looking I was you know, I was looking it was wild

1:50:38 If it was fiction right I might even believe it if that if it wasn't out there Exactly. have always manipulated the truth if they can, that run America. That's someone who I really like generally in almost every regard the you know or talk to someone or open somebody's aperture These policies are insane That this approach to law enforcement this approach to dealing with criminals, and it's not working. It's not good

1:53:47 My hotel is close to Times Square. And I'm like on E&E, you know, I'm like, I'm on edge Ukrainian money there, which is probably our money, filming the show. No, no, no, you're in New York's its own animal as far as that stuff goes. Yeah, what is the population of Budapest? So that's kind of like Austin. And then also, you know, New York is, you know, they're doing this no cash bail thing

1:55:53 When they go that far, then you usher in some totalitarian, hard-nosed, sort of right-wing 10? Nice little loan. They'll pay that back sigh What do they call it a loan? So they're all creeping up on 100, at 100, or over 100 years old. and these politicians get up there to give speeches, They did. They couldn't help themselves. It was disgusting to be there and hear that.

1:58:55 Beach. Yeah. Not appropriate for the 80th anniversary of D-Day for these guys that jumped out of you have the audacity to bring up current politics they can't help Money always motivates everything and there's always some way to make some sort of a moral argument Is moving around in a certain way? I'm going to ask him about that. it was the exact opposite.

2:02:05 remotely close to what's going on right now. Especially when you know the history what we're doing right now and you have to do that at the strategic levels too And it's tough. They're like 30 miles away from Committing to it for ten years like holy shit look at that oh US Navy submarines arrived in Guantanamo Bay Cuba in a show Yeah. And this is to say nothing about what China is doing.

2:05:43 So it's, you know, it's fascinating to Yeah, because as a phone nerd Huawei had some insane phones their phones were like more advanced than US phones Don't you worry we have competent members of our military? driven towards this life, And so it's already a thing. You still have it. I don't remember doing that you don't remember doing that three raises

2:08:52 I was a kid and when Vietnam ended I remember thinking as a kid I guess I was So take that 10 years from now. next to military bases. they're building like the 70s. that watch submarines head out there, for a lot of this stuff anymore, And that's what they're that's what they're doing. That's what we would do where they started stealing their yachts.

2:11:56 You gotta fucking maintain those things. It sees from a sanctioned Russian oligarch an urge to judge to let How many are there but boy there's a lot of fucking clicks you gotta go through these things. I am NOT yeah Yeah, our money. Yeah our tax policy our tax dollars well It's on the coast yeah, the cliffs. I put it in the last book Isn't that crazy?

2:14:54 No. Look at so you have the main yacht and then you have a shadow yacht that has all the toys on it Can move around in it and you like explore reefs and stuff like so two submarines a plane that comes out and the wings fold down Are you allowed to get a new one probably buy just get another one if you have all that money right when he went over to Moscow.

2:16:58 I don't think you should go. I remember the feeling there. Yeah, you're too on the nose with a lot of your work and tell me what it was like. Keep you from getting a cell. Yeah the third time. But this iteration is definitely over. There was a palace, there Yeah, the late. Seriously. Forget what his name is. Yeah, we traded people we traded Taliban. We traded

2:20:50 They offered the chance to trade him and they went with Brittany Griner instead. Oh, we can take one one for one Mercenary When I typed it in, it's a quote that pops up. Phrase is not a dig on Brightling at all. I'm a big fan of the brand, own a few of them and wear it is. There are a lot of misconceptions about this saying. Phrase is not a dig on Breitling at all.

2:22:16 both good and bad, subjective terms. turned mercenary, Simon Mann's Breitling Emergency, I watched a video on one of them because I think I have a Seiko Yeah, that's pretty serious. So those are all sketchy people. Yeah you know the sun rises in the east, to the backup. backups but nowadays I got one of the first ones we got them issued in the a certain percentage of its charge

2:25:19 Do you like the Apple watches and stuff? Oh really? Your sleep? Do you do the sleep stuff? It's like just like a wristband. I can't do it. I already know I need more sleep. I already know I need to eat better like if I go out to dinner with some friends Did that make you stop doing that at dinners? Yeah. to be addicted to, a self-improvement aspect of it,

2:27:36 Yeah, I know, I'm not gonna need more of it to take my wife to dinners, do a little traveling. That's a great experience I was like, oh, that's cool. and amongst law enforcement guys, they love your books. I love this chapter in life. You're like, ah! and you have to ask people for blurbs. And so it's so interesting. because I haven't asked for blurbs in a long time.

2:30:04 Yeah, even people that write about military history and they are not about it. I don't know. for the nonfiction as well. so they did not help out with the first show. Yeah, but I find that all very interesting. it was very nice of them to get back and at least say no. cause if you do like sign off on someone's nonfiction who also writes fiction you aren't somehow or another connecting yourself

2:32:30 Has said thank you for writing. Thank you for telling this story. What's also great that it's coming from you because your fiction books are so popular I remember that. and so I got to to just rely on mainstream media's depictions of things that's Oh yeah. especially after like Kent State, Reinforce it online with troll farms and you just like there's so much nonsense. It's so hard to know what's real and what's not real

2:35:21 on. You don't really get to conceptualize what's really happening and make They don't like it unless there's a, our kids are pretty much the same ages. And it's when I think about them and what they're all throughout the 1980s. Exactly, Red Dawn out there. 80 91 I'd live right now I know you love it over and over again. $79.91, $79.91. Really? Yeah.

2:37:12 I love that about you. and they're trying to manipulate me. in what the fuck is actually going on than ever before. We don't really talk about all these businesses than just hit the easy button on Amazon. driving up to where I was staying And especially the days of kovat. It's gonna be a bizarre hit your knee with the thing. I just was like, I laughed out loud like that,

2:39:56 Doesn't fucking work. You know, take Tamiflu. I think so they just say that you did it, but you didn't really do it. Well. That's nice September. but usually type it in the search bar.