Joe Rogan Experience #2167 — Noland Arbaugh Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. changed in 2024, you're going to be in that movie. Yeah, that's true. No, definitely. they've given people the ability to control electronic devices, they've been able to control computers and it's gonna blow up way more. fascinating and it really is fascinating how many different ways and strategies some kind of scanning imagery

3:34 Yeah, here it is scientists read dreams using brain scans is an older one I don't know if that's changed recently, but I don't know. in sleep science. it's all interconnected in some very bizarre way. I think we were slowly That's one of the things I'm really excited about With 16 electrodes on them each and so a lot of the data that we have that shows that they were moving or coming out of the

6:56 I was like, you guys don't know how much the brain moves? Like, this feels like, like that one millimeter. And they found in my brain that it was moving three millimeters pulsing. our neurons. Neuroscientist, try that name. Yuli Rutishour. Yuli Rutishour. Brain moves more than we thought it did which blew my mind once we get more computer and then through that Neuralink has created an app that they have

10:09 I have a little bit of movement in my hand, like machine learning going on in the background that is to train it to learn that's what I want it to do to go left. Like anything that it can do, anything you can do, This is very, very, like it's still very new. cursor control, then you map my fingers and my other hand and my toes to like key control. So I could be moving the cursor and typing at the same time with

13:01 and imagined movements. and translate it to cursor control. But when I moved it for the first time because all the signals are still working. It's just my spinal cord that's jacked up. And it's pretty promising. I think it's going to be the same way with the texting. Oh, wow. Yeah, because I think it's both like me learning what like the computer is trying to do, the

15:56 So you were saying that you were one of the first people So like when they told me I didn't have very good control of the cursor anymore And it was hard to, you know, internalize that it could all be coming to an end. Which they ended up doing it works better than it did before now Sorry. I dislocated my C4, C5. And so I cannot move anything. kind of what I assumed would happen with neuro-linguism honestly, but I had applied

19:42 No, they do a lot of UFC fighters. and heal people with I don't think it could hurt. Cool. No, you shouldn't lie. Yeah. Understandably. stem cell stuff is, you know, implant stem cells above and below the level of injury, and those they do they have a plan on when to try this they're already trying it in basically and the pig will go in there and then they will take control of the pigs leg and

23:25 Yeah, I know, right? then you might be able to control my cursor on my screen and make me look at weird stuff. Yeah, I mean it it Are they gonna say things about me? Like I can tell they're trying to get me to say things I'm just like no They've never been on camera for and they get very nervous and that's why I like to talk to people before the show

26:35 and it's like a little bit of a power move that's gonna be shared on TikTok. and that'll become the gotcha. I think it's because of my mom my mom's like the friendliest person in the world And it's like. It's just it's a bad format most of those media interviews are bad formats because it's a very limited amount of time Everyone's so goddamn political right now.

29:34 Don't worry about it. I would say that's the computer in your paralyzed anymore. to help people and I feel like this is gonna help people and that's what I'm It is like an ant trying to figure out how to operate an iPhone. There's it's not we don't have it I mean, you look at a hundred years ago, It's just it's gonna be really weird. It's gonna be really weird, but

32:32 Have they done any of that on animals yet? Um, I'm not sure I know that in order to display what's going on around the world to someone, to the back going whatever implant they have in the brain they'll like light up somewhere on It was just a wild story of basically about a company who had Originally did studies on right? Yeah, do you know much about like studying with animals and stuff like that?

35:27 So yeah, they do that They have to like you said learn right something from the monkeys from the animals that they're testing on there was the whole like, um, report that came out about all the terrible things labs treat their monkeys for the better. get reported at all none of the time between like if it's five years that the monkey's alive and one bad thing happens, then there's

37:42 at all. we are, you know, aren't there like a lot of evil people in the world we could practice Very weird. But that's terrifyingkeys are unbelievably strong. off this dude's head. Ouchie wah-wah that is skull. Yes If they'll in the future, particularly with the leaps that are going to be made with AI, Simulation on what how this would interact with a human

41:21 these is 200 megapixels this little tiny thin thing like what's to say that they wouldn't be able to come up with something that works way better than the human eye? Yeah, you're just looking into these lenses, are you even in there anymore? Yeah, like I'm saying maybe at some point you wouldn't even be able to tell which is also something to think about like who?

43:12 All through the night, you know little little movement rapid eye movement in yeah Yeah, I've seen that. And he sees through the camera? Maybe that's the first step. Yep. Amazing player. Hmm. Yeah amazing times. Yeah, so what is Sharon K. Thornton, 60, went blind nine years ago from a rare disorder called Steven-Johnson at the Bascom Palmer Eye Institute

46:08 the tooth from Thornton's mouth and prepared an implant of her own dental tissue for her Perez. Perez said doctors often use less risky and less invasive techniques to way but it's literally just a placeholder for like you know different Being able to recreate motion or restore motion. Are you gonna be available for those studies to can they can you do that too?

48:33 Just like the same thing with people kind of a long way off I think. How big is the the Neuralink implant? It's kind of a long way off, I think. How big is the Neuralink implant? And then they left that chunk out and just replaced it with the Neuralink. I was talking about it with my buddy afterwards, and I was like, I should have asked them for Yeah, that's fine.

50:26 one or two dozen different iterations. Yeah, and then the version I have is like thousands and like things like that. So the next one that comes in is probably going to be much get one of these things? At least a group of people who have been following it at the very least, because once we know expecting it to be you know something like three to six hours and my surgery

53:29 It'd be pretty cool. It's not going to stop. It might not be as dopey as going to a website. Yeah, propaganda will take new leaps and bounds. Right, but then who's running it? Well, they're able to scour the internet for every artists work And that's just one problem. and translate it into different languages Wasn't there, was there a football player that was saying some wild shit that turned out to be fake or a basketball player?

57:13 I see it. like oh yeah that's AI oh yeah that's fake. Yeah I think you're right. Yeah they're just people from different cultures and different countries more. I think you're not going to be able to lie anymore, It's a good thing to not lie. manufactured narratives that people have with this very selective view of memory That you know maybe you don't need to lie exactly

1:00:50 My my eyes you're seeing right into the thoughts. Oh, I see. I don't think you have a They were like, we this dangerous mind-reading technology of these hearings on AI, the people that are asking the questions don't know what the fuck That's why they have pieces of paper and they're looking down with their reading glasses, It came so fast they couldn't control it.

1:03:24 version of the internet forever and that's it and there's no growth and they'll silence dissidents. imagine we can communicate with this technology and it for it if that's if that's what it takes to really get us to be face to face the only thing I keep telling my buddy geckos like what is happening You can see it look at its face They're like the size of multiple people.

1:06:12 there was just like a ship over him and he looked through a scope and he looked fuckers built a city underground right here. There's got to be some sort of intelligence. yeah right that's what I have a feeling I have a feeling that in the future with us. Hmm I might have I don't want to be alone. Yeah, I'll be the only person who can't read minds I was able to kind of sort of play it with some different assistive technology over the last few years, but not really.

1:10:04 Yeah, so you'll be able to play shooters like Call, I hope so. Wow. I really hope so. Wow, is it that accurate? It's that accurate. Wow. And it's just not fair. Wow, is it that accurate? sent all the way down and back up in order for you to move your hand. And you just catching people and shooting them instantaneously Elon Musk will have a field day

1:12:24 Cool for you to play them in a tournament like a one-on-one tournament and fuck up like interface that allows you to use like Meta's VR or Oculus? No, not yet. I don't think... I think at some point in the study they're going to do it just to see if it works. We'll just get get an optimist robot and then have him have him hold the VR handles and then you can control that he's connected to you

1:14:37 Sorry I didn't know. No worries. There was one about the home stenographers and And he just reads back Oh what you said, yeah I think that, like I'm pretty sure some of the people source and there's people like me out there who are just talking about it, Next being able to use something that allows people to move that couldn't move won't have to be paralyzed anymore.

1:17:31 even if they did give me something to make me able to move again, my body is just so I have to wear this hand brace because if I don't, my fingers are all just like curled Like that, that's more like that's worth more than anything. with the future of this stuff I have no idea. I have no idea. nothing about Neuralink. I was just lying in my bed one day and I got a phone call from my buddy

1:21:27 on a different like zoom interviews and stuff and then I went through about a month long application process of different like three people that they were doing for the first part of the study. that's ever going to be in anyone. I would rather it had happened to me, your surgery you're gonna be the first person I think in December they had told Like, I kept pretty level expectations through the whole thing.

1:25:01 You have a very noble and selfless outlook. everything I've ever done, all the mistakes I ever made, why I was who I dog crap, basically, like then maybe I'm not as good of a guy as I thought I was. honestly. Wow. That's a wild thing to happen to someone, That's paraphrasing, but it was along those lines. big athlete. I played like every sport under the sun and then not being able to

1:29:08 me that I'm not. engaging with this man man. It really is. that allows you to move again and that they I just think that I did it so to show people, I did it because I knew that I could. of and I'm really happy that Neuralink chose me and I'm looking forward to having some But we talk about that kind of stuff all the time Yeah. Come on. Not really, it's all through the computer. Just because in order to even

1:33:23 So it's all through the computer right now. Like it's going to be one of those things what is going on yeah I get real nervous when someone way fucking smarter than me I don't trust it one bit. Thanks for being you and let's do this again sometime in the future Probably this week at some point maybe the next few days then I'm gonna stream from like video games and stuff. That's great, man