Joe Rogan Experience #2177 — Chris Robinson Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Mr. Columbo, Lieutenant Columbo, he's always being like reprimanded for it. Pop pardon me. Yeah, but another thing he's always about to leave And then usually a lot of times in the arc of the story, someone shows up to the crime Can you guys leave? if someone is a bad person and they do commit a murder, There's those shows and then there's medical shows remember when there was there was a time where they're like every other fucking show on TV

3:27 Don't you see what you kids are doing to yourselves with the loud music and the anger, Yeah, yeah, your bullshit. But he had had like a hit in the late 50s called Booma Dip Dip, like a top 40 kind of What was he doing? And just, I don't know I'm dyslexic person and so my of resentment and regret. I don't know. like probably the first time I saw Eraserhead

7:21 and it was from Los Angeles called New Wave Theater. Wealth of material they've serviced in many incarnations tonight. They're here as 45 grave I'm gonna be a big star. everything because there's always going to be the one person who's like, I'm going this Bluegrass records, Lester Flatneuril Scruggs records, or Mo's Allison records, Jimmy Reid But that kind of stuff catapults us into,

10:50 You know what I mean? Legitimate rebellion. Yeah. where people are just like, I don't vie with any of this. Yeah. how weird was that, you know, like bringing that into a studio You can do anything now with like a button and people, and I like lo-fi shit too, of Right. I mean, they just sound delicious. Like growing up in Atlanta, like that was, to be kooky when it was a thing. But they were sponsored by Miller Lite. And I just got into

15:33 because I have to be here tonight, And as we've gotten older, and especially since we put the band back together these we're in control of that. I'm in control of like, this is what we're doing, this is how we that still is part of what we are today. culturally and socially, its place and its importance and its reverence was a lot different than today.

18:17 they're singing about sex, and you know, they're singing about, you know, maybe I can't really The lyrics are rough. this is our this is our latest work. This is what we've been working on. This is our which is why there's this resurgence of vinyl, right? And it was weird maybe that's because my mom and dad had a lot of records. And I don't buy records online very much.

21:52 It's geeky stuff. t-shirt in the suburbs back in the 80s it wasn't like you know I mean if you saw And it's like, my wife and I DJ all the time in LA When did you start doing that? we started doing these nights and playing a lot of weird psych folk doors open till after the show I would be the happiest person in the world. and everything, but I personally, it's yet to beat the adventure out of me, you know

25:19 you never know who you're gonna meet, Yeah. Human experiences. who was playing guitar or whatever. It's a little different. I want to put them in the studio. You know, like you're looking, oh, there's what? And there's a lot of bars where we I mean, it happens all over, And it's funny, because I had a nostalgic to see these bands. that don't seem to be happening in like a neighborhood where they call the houses a five four and a door

29:50 And you survived. But I spend a lot of my time reading. that are hard for us to deal with. Nat. Yeah. Nat. Yeah., we went to And they have pastis, which is the, you know. that's a little more sophisticated and a lot more on this planet, and they've chosen to live their time You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You, your goal is not to exist in that and just accept it. This is life.

33:48 There's no struggle. I get it. Pastis doesn't grow on trees. You know what I mean? I gotta pay for that shit. Like selling millions of records. Southern Harmony, and we went on the show. The guy whoever was the music guy was like you can't do that and I was like, well, I mean we could do what we want totally being just horrible, like kid. So let me make the mistake.

37:07 He did not like our attitude. We didn't do what he wanted. Yeah. No one was voting for us. massive yes it's still weird what is the juxtaposition me it has to be so strange you you're these rebels and And then it's like, you're on MTV 30 times a day, We weren't, you know what I mean? But now I think there's so much compliance. Okay were forcing them to lip-sync?

41:07 Smells Like Teen Spirit, So they started fucking around in the middle of the song. we all were at parties and watching it But some authority. Something that says you can't do that or this is the way it through YouTube and TikTok and all these different venues. You know what I mean? it's a difference between having a fine meal and you keep going to it, and you over-consume it.

44:21 like even if I just waste 10 minutes scrolling through people, we talk on the phone. I'm one of those older people. I just well you developed in a different time and this time is fucking bizarre. I No, some video games are so immersive, man. It's designed to capture human beings, capture your attention. than seeing old rock stars argue about politics on Twitter.

46:40 You get off my lawn! We were gone for three months. And it's still like, I don't care. I mean, it sounds silly, but like I said before, there's still adventure in the world. You know, they're just styling it a little different. Have a whole life there that has nothing to do with anything other than that the goat, a goat in Jamaica only has one bad day, man. It's not even a whole bad day.

49:43 Sometimes he would be tired and hungover. Oh, yeah, and yeah Like expert. That's 35 years of being on the road. It's like BAMI she's 35 pounds, but I can even sleep with my Jamaican street dog on my lap. That's cool It's just, unless you've experienced that live when you were around the sky, but I remember feeling my feeling my parents Yeah, so it's also a lesson in the temporary nature of things.

52:44 And it would be like, you know, oh yeah, I remember that. I know that was like a, I think it might be shampoo or something. It's still vibrant, dynamic, alive. But I It's like when you realize you're in a place Right, that's a that's a reality that no one in LA experiences because in LA it's like Three separate times. It was four or five summers ago.

54:55 it was about a I think it also touches us and in a recently. So you're flying over you're looking down at the lava pouring out of the earth. Is this Italy? There's like an indention for the centuries of people leaning in to get a sip of water. Yeah. Little I shook Little Richard's hand. It was the softest like pillow. Party in Vegas, this is back in the mid-90s, some VH1 thing or something.

59:19 And this was, you know, 30 years ago. And he was like, hey, man, nice to meet you. I met Robert at a party. he is. Yeah, it is good to go through life. He goes, yeah, you want to get stoned? And I never took him up on it, like the production office, just because I just, I felt out of just a person, but to them, you're the black crows. There will always be, I don't know, I think that there's a connection in creation art, where does the idea come from?

1:03:22 The muse, you know, the muse is real. your devotion is turned somewhere else, the muse could leave you. a world that I can feel like I want to inhabit, that she will turn her back on me forever that are gonna be adherent to a ritual, were like you know well the phone thing is convenient I transfer all my Or that when Rich and I are writing songs too, like if we're not

1:06:43 Right. Right. who can produce and record, and there's people who can dance and sing and perform. it was just that picture of him with his shirt off, It's For You is that one with Jack Me Off? My first concert is Slave and Cool in the Gang in the middle, a little roller skating shit in the middle. And I'm like, but I didn't Yeah, cuz he would do the concert and then go play going. I was, to this day, I kill myself. Which is fucking god damn it.

1:09:36 To this day, I'm like, fuck. I met him at the Ryman Auditorium after Johnny Cash passed away. And I end up talking to him. River. Yeah. And he was the dam builder on Mm-hmm on the Columbia River whatever but he That's pretty wild. and ruins it. What whatever. But I remember I know I was in high school at the time, and those lyrics were so shocking,

1:12:53 The initial phase of the cosmic fucking blood They come in waves of great artists for whatever reason. you know, as time moves on. I know that the king of yoga or whatever the fuck he's selling. Whatever his, you know, but under that beard, that guy, and it's funny because good for And we were kind of, you know, into like psychedelic, Because we're Southern, aren't all Southern people fear-driven, ignorant bigots?

1:15:49 Like, I think this is a cool, you're from Cobb County, see, we're not from there, but It's it's that's became what we became, is because of the way that some reason, also leaving the E in it, I don't hate Rick Rubin or anything. I mean to be honest, I found a lot of... especially in this... when our first record came out and And most everyone was really super cool

1:19:03 doesn't mean that talking down to me like I'm stupid or something or I'm like, whoa'm a musician doesn't mean that, you know, talking down You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Dude, these are the flyover state people talking to me. What they knew in certain cities in certain places in the country versus what they knew in Los Angeles there's fucking people that get it.

1:20:50 Oh, he was great. I don't remember. it after you're done laughing. I had a chance to see him live a bunch of times, luckily. He wasn't trying to conform to whatever the stereotypical, this is the guy that's going You know what? could get on a sitcom and then all of a sudden you're the king of queens. Yeah, and now the things that you wanna say you can't can't say self-censored. This is the saddest thing

1:23:37 Yeah, but it's just the problem is you're never going to make everybody happy, and now Now what everyone's trying to do is get people I mean, you know what I mean? And by the way, not everything is supposed to be, like you were saying. And I guess that's where we are with this social media. The pursuit of other people who you don't even know their their love and attention and you

1:25:41 need experiences from people where when they resonate these, when they Well, it's funny when you say that, the virtuous part of it, that's funny too because, you But can manipulate these kind of archetypes You see them. I mean, it's funny because that's, you know, It doesn't matter. work. I'm like, well, buy your mom's. Buy your mom's laptop. But think about that in my daughter's lifetime the Beatles will be a fucking hundred years old

1:29:39 It's a weird thing to look at time that way. Pete I mean, you're talking about 3,000 years, but in the big scope of things. forever. temple structure and to this day, You know, we did the last year, 11000 years old. There it is. Wow, that's incredible. Have they? Yeah, yeah. Like where the original mysteries took place. No, no, you can still And I got really lucky to go with my friend Brian

1:33:41 tripping balls and trying to give everybody an equal participation in Yeah, the drink. That's awesome. all psychedelic drugs schedule one when they were doing that so they can go know about all the drugs and that this one, 24 states, three territories in And there where Biden's from. I think it's just a dumb thing for us to be hanging on Like language.

1:37:12 violence and free bread. And in the same way that you control people by fear and ignorance, TikTok toe, yeah. Incredible wild shit that animals and cages they could race through the floor. It's unimaginable of deranged parts of like where the, where that period of Rome of the dictator starts to become... That'd be a different thing. when it comes to sculptures and paintings.

1:40:09 and then landing in Italy. And it's an unbelievable book that this guy writes. And it's the sadness that could, when they didn't have any fabric, around this time after that, they're walking I have it in my phone, I could tell you, when you're thinking about things thriving and existing Spanish. But it's also a great commodity and also something of great elevated status, you know

1:43:55 In the book, and also just history, They had no, there was no cohesiveness of the way they would think about fighting or And you know, it's funny, one of the things in the book, you're like, okay, so they're obviously, and they're like, it's just wine. And he was like, they're irreplaceable. they destroy ancient stuff, like the burning of the Library of Alexandria.

1:46:36 It could be anything. I mean, millions and millions of... And I'll just, you know, there's a certain time and I'm really interested in John Dee, think to remove the mystic from everything or not to be able to at least have a nod to I mean, in Chichen Itza, have you ever been to the ancient Mayan structures? I mean, as well. poisoning, we're all, it's all one living organism, and the universe is one

1:49:44 Yeah, and out and within. And not... It scales up. Yeah. you live in your own shit, you get sores, you know? There's a, this is just when you think about the, the universe as a whole, it's just too I see this because order room, we see a commercial and the guy walks over there something you don't enjoy, you think of struggle Do all gym next door to the bank with the ATM.

1:52:13 You know, you watch old Dick Cavett shows, they're smart people, and they're not promoting are so popular. You can just kind of talk about anything. You have a new You know, especially in the early days And maybe just avoid these kind of topics and you're smiling and you're selling shit. I would. Talking shit and an eight-year-old beat him up that time

1:55:33 Talked I never met him before. Oh really? And the Comedy Store, that was my haunt. Very smart dude to very I see him at the airport, I'll say, yo man, you like this jacket? He might be able to fit in that. My dude. Yeah, you gotta hang in there. I know you're 60 I'm like, let's go, you know what I mean? And they were great. great midnight rambler the

1:59:25 when you watch Mick Jagger walk out onto the stage, you almost can't believe he's really And here we are in 2024, Oh, they were so good. something, I get a little bit like, Two huge trailers that are just like Mick Jagger works out every day You won't get to 300 pounds if you live in Sicily. No unless you drink a lot of fucking water I love to go to Paris, but Paris isn't relaxing.

2:02:51 modern future world that we see every day. because that place is wild. there was a big scandal during lockdown in some small town in Sicily, or maybe it was Palermo. I'd have to research it today. The police were No. So he's Johnny Toothpick. you're like yo what are you doing you know what I mean like so it's that kind of thing It's really cool. I love

2:06:10 He's just like making up sounds making up words. Mick Jagger did it. Yeah it's just an older guy doing the same vibe. I'm going to take two years off. Wow, and you're working them on a regular basis I say we sing the songs in the same keys, you know. It was funny we played the forum, Because in rock and roll, pretty much this is what we do. We tour, we do concerts, and we make music, blah, blah,

2:09:27 But also I look ahead and I'm like, do I want to be on stage when I'm 75? I don't want you know what I mean? I would hate to be I've always hated the idea that this is all I could do That's a thing too. And I'm really happy with We have access to the whole world, you know? And I don't have to worry about anyone giving a shit, you know what I mean? We have access to the whole world, you know?

2:11:23 it's like rock music. when we wrote She Talks to Angels, I get, I always have time When there's a lot of songs like that in our repertoire Or more obscure even. When you hear a great song, it literally gives you energy. that I don't have music on. Well, that means you're doing the right thing, right? We're not the only ones that feel this way. We're not the only ones that, you know, life is, life is, that is what it is. You know what

2:14:32 that's what I really wanna get to is how, You know what I mean? They just opened for us. We've You know what I mean? Not everything is the same. That's the reason why those songs are so popular I'm like, okay, I get pop music is light sometimes, Yeah. You go see Metallica there at a stadium. is supposed to be the gauge or the, and you see it a lot. You see people making comments about it in our industry, about how

2:18:40 Someone said, dude, I mean, Bob Dylan, you didn't know when they made first Bob Dylan Well, of course, and it always has been that way. Bye, everybody.