Joe Rogan Experience #2191 — Russell Crowe Transcript

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3:19 Daniel Day Lewis is a real legend because he's one of those guys Some like some people try to pretend to be quirky. I always feel the same way. If I was to explain to my I mean, you'd have to be so ambitious. In the summer before, I'd worked as a nightclub DJ. And I got fired because I couldn't talk. And in your bursary year, if you achieve to a certain degree, you get money towards your

6:52 manager of the company, you know, sat me down to tell me that one day, you know, In the time that I was there. I I don't want to be here. this one guy and he had a Cadillac and the boss pulls us aside he says look at this guy just so you can say, this is a trap. caterers on film sets. I bought a property near where his property is in the bush because he was kind of like

10:17 when I was 12, I went to a, and blah, blah, blah, I hadn't seen him for years, All the other kids go off. But, you know, coming out of school and everything, I really thought that I was simply going to, been fired because I couldn't talk. Can you come and DJ at the club? just a crazy circumstance. It was like it was created to make sure that I So I'd like to have to go out. People have been listening to these old classic 1950s

14:06 know. His whole life, this guy that I was working for was about the 1950s, blue suede And one night I said to him, why don't you let me just go out and say something actually funny or whatever. But in my own sort of performing life, over time, the room. show I have the exact opposite I have your approach I try to bring the best Well, I'll give it a go.

17:17 who just took the role because of blah blah. So I'll read scripts and I will generally do the one ah, it's kind of dodgy or whatever, But it's also like a deep, deep passion, you know, and stepping into the shoes of other At 4 a.m. when it's like a ball busting wake up time background. you know, and I think he was off to do a season of King Lear exactly what's going to happen that night because every audience takes things in a different

21:22 gives you something back, man. It's a rare gift that a person gets to live their life doing that a lot. And part of the attraction of it when I was a But I'd already made a bunch of in the industry, so to speak. realize there was a football game on. And Italy didn't do very well. They got beaten by Brazil. at the time, so that sounded like a good title

25:19 difficult moment in something that I'm liking, right, where my brain just goes hmm to be At one point in time for seven days, we lived on refried beans and rice in Guatemala because around us because everybody got really sick. Cool. The Tarantula man's here and he has shown a variety we'd shot in and so what's gonna happen So they turn on all these hot lights, right?

28:54 plucks it out done and I'm thinking to myself good little spider one take because before doing something like this, resetting lights and all that. Okay, so what I thought was my only safety net, gone, right? it was about take seven or eight, How long does it have to sit in your mouth for? So take eight, that happens. I said, I was very hot, you know, under the lights and stuff like that.

31:59 So here's this ointment, take this pill, a few days now, you'll be right. You know? And the reason that I wanted to tell you this story, They just decided that was a good spot? Every time I've had major injuries and stuff, there's, I can't even remember the name of Really? And I was just walking in there You know, it's like I hit the water. freezing.

35:00 I shredded both my hamstrings while I was doing Noah. And I was doing Noah, I was fit as a bull, strong as an ox, absolutely. And I hadn't really noticed that all the kids, because I was out behind him, boy's there and he's only like seven or something at the time. He's like, hi dad, that was fun. mate actually no not 5,000 maybe about,000 extras around me, actually not 5,000, maybe about 1,000 extras around me. And I've got no hamstrings and the scene requires me

37:48 Yeah. well All the rain starts and, you know. That's all done with towers. What I thought was that the funniest thing with that stuff is when that movie came out, It was just so weird. But he did promise me, Darren, at the beginning The funny thing with Noah, man, is most people think they know what's in the Bible, of a great flood. they've located the remains of it

42:53 Do you know who he is? Right, and doesn't that date coincides with what would be the end of Gobekli Tepe, right? He felt like it was one immense event Exactly. water, when it goes over the sand, it leaves these kind of humps and ridges where the water But what was it based on right? What the fuck happened? Mm-hmm something happened to it? guy that trained the trainers and he got assigned to me. Oh my god the things that

47:44 And then straight into Noah. as you're doing when you're close in. that really fills Go and talk to people who've got a perspective. do because you can't go and look up, you know, old photos or anything. that they're living in and another apocalypse is coming. So Darren had a lot of cool things going in the movie, a lot of great ideas. And, you know, outside

51:01 Yeah, it's a bit odd. And it has been going on in our entire lives and it's just been getting worse. Yeah. them grain and we're keeping them in pens and then they're all the pig shit You know I mean when I first had land and cattle I used to love getting up in the dawn one man, soft voice, handful of grain. either on foot or horseback and we still use working dogs but the cows don't get

55:32 I don't operate it as a business. Yeah. And they just feel healthier. So I went fully organic at one point, right? It took 14, it hasn't overcome it and it's not the biggest, best, strongest. It's this weedy and as I say, they don't get adrenalized through their life, so when we do cull them, the meat He's really into what he does and he will ask if he can have a couple of beasts and

58:37 the best, you know, the best you can, I only had enough money to either buy a small apartment in the city, now. You want to have something. I'm working up because it's raining. And I'm trying to get back to sleep, but all I can think of is these 20 little calves down And I looked around in the shed, 40 minutes, something like that. and he rejoined the the rest of them and then they just went like clockwork just

1:02:43 We kind of are, though. That sounds like at least a practicing farmer. I mean you actually did it Right. is where they're used to being and then here's a pile of grain over here so they It's better for you too, physically. But you still have the same benefits of the grass We used to when we occasionally will have a fresh guest that's never been there before and

1:06:07 It's weird enough, people are so disconnected Thank you. system that we have, where, you know, at every corner in almost every city there's a place where you can get a quick piece of meat, you know, a quick cooked piece Yeah. 39 you know like how much work was involved in this absolutely yeah, and that you know that's what I mean How do you prepare a steak?

1:08:20 I don't do anything extreme. My name was in the paper every week and my photograph was in the paper and stuff Yeah. So I want that first hit to sear the outside of the steak and that's the side that gets Oh, okay. Much. Okay. It's a tomahawk you get it with the rib bone on it right tomahawk right yeah well I out sort of t-bone is half New At the time, I don't even think I liked it.

1:12:39 I'm happy that there's more options for fighters but one championship is huge I It's called The Beast in Me. So you'll have a crowd of fifteen thousand or whatever, And that's just not really the truth. So I think it's going to be a good project. Fucking America. Well, it was some famous American writer, Damon Runyon, did Nuremberg where I played Herman Goering so that's gonna be coming out

1:15:58 So my job is to show you who that person is, to play that role, really, and bring him back to a consciousness because people had forgotten And then I'm going to teach you to open anybody up like a can of tomatoes. occasionally if you're asked about somebody that he had a negative experience with, you in so many different pursuits and under different pressures

1:18:16 And I'm standing in the ring Whenever I saw him, he would introduce me to people as, Then we'd go and do the first boxing session, And the next day, we'd start all over again. He had all the old stuff, but he was aware of all the new stuff as well. That's incredible. It's just gold. Did you think about having a fight? Oh I'd be right towards the end of the film and it's just sort of like little sharp cuts. No,

1:21:15 is in that fight with Troy. through my temple, you know? Dude, you were fit as fuck back then. You did it justice. Well that's the thing when you're playing somebody that's real to get himself around. you get it, you can move quite fast here, you know? And he's a very exacting guy, and he So I had to go and have an operation. was you know really problematic on that situation you know but 20 days on the

1:25:00 No, I've been starting to talk. but way back in the day, into town, you know, in the middle of August, you know Yeah. When everything was shut down, we tested the entire crowd and at Willie Nelson's place and we said why don't we do on Fridays we'll just do Wow. There's 250,000 people back there. I had an absolute picture in my mind of what I was about to experience.

1:28:11 Right. I think they're kind of overestimated A million is a good size for a city. I'm like, you guys are adorable. It's bananas. Mobbed. Like, I know they know how to fix it. Okay. Whew, we're on the other side. I don't like it. I'd rather be in a helicopter, be in that fucking tunnel. just the detail of those diseases aside. Because you know, the guy

1:31:37 The film begins, you believe everything that comes out of the audience. Really? Yeah. I just want to be in this space because I need you to read it now. two o'clock in the morning, sitting on the back porch and walking and jumping into the swimming pool, you know, and I'm not even thinking about it. know sometimes it can be a really imperfect document but there's just a

1:34:55 I came out of an independent film world and then suddenly a couple of those independent If you know what I've done, I've done, you know, all sorts of big studio budget films, most film directors you work with are genius. you know, the people that you're working with, I go, right you are. believe. to take my sons to Rome. And initially she said that because she'd only ever been to Rome with my dad, that she didn't want to come because she

1:38:51 I took the kids to see the old office, the Colosseum. Natural light, I've done that. So the idea I'll do it exactly the way I do it on stage for you, I mean, that ceiling is amazing in natural light when it's got like 16 spotlights on And he goes, Rassel, please, Massimo. I just feel your father so close to me. And it's that old Irish folk song, Danny Boy.

1:42:15 but on the day that we're in a place where we can hear a private rehearsal it just an introspective conversation, you know if you How's it possible? you would never have, right? So I get taken down and here's the history of the Swiss guards The guy called me at that time, we make the thing on that date, I've convinced my mom to come. how many people were involved.

1:46:21 of people. It would trick a lot of people. If they walked in there and they saw all and they saw all that beauty they go all these guys must have a direct connection to whatever's going Well, you know that there's that, I forget the name of it, but there's a statue there. It's just insane. Could stand next to it. He took me inside the room where it's in Wow

1:48:22 Right. by a Turkish guy who was either born in Australia Hold on, was it 72 Hungarian? knocked off a chunk of her nose and chipped one of her eyelids. Good fucking job. Look at that material man. Look at yeah on the bodice of her costume Just based on a film. Yeah, I was going to ask you about that too, whether you started smoking cigarettes before

1:51:33 And I met him at a golf course and took him to the driving range. to defend himself or I have to honor this man. You know, we could comb it into place, I'll shave my head, just get me a wig, I'll wear the wig, could possibly have ever seen me as the character but yeah that first over time the knowledge we have and nutrition and stuff like that. It's changed so much over time,

1:55:02 Cut to a whole bunch of big people. in the same way as it might in a more westernized country But yeah, so I had three months to get ready and that's, um, you know, I don't think when There's a whole bunch of guys that are desperate to work out and everything. So I just let everybody Yeah. I'd lived there between four and fourteen. tonight at the National Institute of Dramatic Art and get a piece of paper that says I know

1:58:34 and he came to see the show, and he came backstage, I said, yeah, I wanna, he goes, The only thing that you'll pick up is bad habits. that some people have an ability to do. Like, there's athletes that have Amazing in it. like a puppet master emotionally or whatever. They're doing something that they've constructed like you'll see one actor stand out,

2:01:01 That guy is, you know, he's fantastic, you know? And I saw that movie, I remember seeing that movie going, Jesus Christ. I asked him some tough questions I could, and I pushed a button emotionally. is carrying this around. you get into where if you admit something is unsafe, But we don't do any of that A lot. Right. tobacco on long haul flights. I got a great Norm MacDonald story. Norm MacDonald and I

2:05:00 he gets I go what do you do it I thought you quit yeah I did but then we started when you haven't had a cigarette for a while The most pressing physical thing is bothering you is you want a cigarette and when you get that and i've tried to give up what i've found completely get rid of it out of my life. It does affect in a very positive way cognitive performance.

2:06:55 It's just too bad it's terrible for you. I had a guy because you can't take your gloves off. So when we started that film, Ron Howard's idea So I'd box Mondays and Tuesdays and then basically able to adjust something. So it was a really good choice to make because it of doing it, if we're gonna do it for real, There was a couple of blokes in that cast.

2:10:04 Did you have any experience boxing as a young man a little bit a little bit? Um, but it's funny because all of that training comes into play later on in my life. pound-for-pound fighters in the world. You have to see, pull up just a highlight reel I did Budokan the star with, then I did Sir Dor, which is a kung fu. But it's like, let's make this short and sweet and just, you know, get it done.

2:12:53 quickest man to ever win a world title I think you won a world title in like four Yeah. I remember that. Well that's the thing with Koster, I think he had nearly 300 fights or something as an jump up to his feet, he should have taken a knee Yeah, exactly, but who knows, he would like he was laying in some shots under the belt, you know? Yeah, and that was like really made me understand what the boxing world was, you know, what

2:16:00 You know? I think for fighters it's even it's people, isn't it? Mm-hmm And then Manny Pacquiao after that. Pacquiao, what a fighter. And it looks like he's on a pound of cocaine around where his dingling was bouncing around. I always say that if Jake Paul was not a YouTube star, if people just looked at him like an done the time that he's put into it and the ability that he has just the sheer

2:19:29 and he still can knock your fucking head know, which is a very good fight. Yeah, if he can do that if you can actually do that for eight rounds or ten rounds over men on this fight is well still terrified of you from watching you. Why is that because I was gonna make the table more narrow and be closer to the guests. I had him on once when he was retired

2:21:44 He had muscles bulging in his arms and he was very intense. He fucking scares me. And that that force that caused him to try to achieve greatness was back and he was fit And Jake Paul is a 28-year-old athlete in the prime of his life. so torn. He goes, you could try to rehabilitate. Well, I went in he shot me up. I took it easy on it, I did the rehab, I started

2:24:27 He goes, I've never seen this. Yeah, this is why I don't do that yet because there's breakthroughs right now where they're regenerating cartilage. There's several studies. I believe one of them is out of Australia and another one, Because all the sports I used to do a lateral turf toe. Yeah, and but also inhibit catabolism. Moreover, we discussed the potential role of IGF-1 in OA treatment.

2:26:58 cartilage. His father was in a wheelchair when he was 80, 10 years later at 90 was walking around. they send a lot of UFC fighters down there. Hang in there. that was from. What movie? Gladiator. Of course. And then you go on my back. I've got ribs Generate cash like my day job. out of here. I bet I can. Okay. Yeah I'm 99% sure. They can just go bing bang right down?

2:29:50 You know, it sounds like your shoulder's pretty fucked, and I'm going to go back the other way. Okay, whatever Yeah. Yeah, I don't know where I'll get to but in my mind. I'm aiming for about hundred and four hundred and five nice can't outrun the years of you know of abuse can you use an air dine an air two o'clock in the morning after you finished a gig

2:33:02 That's what happens. Right, sports people can't use them here either, What you can get versus what has not shown helps your body regenerate tissue, High protein, low carbs, you just lose weight quick Yesterday I was eating a steak, I was really enjoying it, but I didn't finish it. I got to a certain point when actually It's not schedule specific, Right.

2:36:15 stuff, you know, and then you're banging yourself with painkillers because it's such So I kind of said to the guy that I was working with, I used to like playing tennis when I was younger, with the short bursts of running, right? I seem to have rehabbed my Achilles by playing tennis. And it just seems to I have, you know, I had years and years, man, I'm talking about from

2:38:49 to beat this woman at tennis. You've got to get good at tennis and your mind is saying But you're not doing five sets of 10. Then you do that one set of them too many, Yeah, so opposite of what I think anybody would recommend. It doesn't seem to the Have you got kids? I love it. Right? They used to be a kid. It's a little kid do now, you know, with this little head that was nothing but just a, you know, a bundle

2:43:48 And it's like, I remember the first time he said a word, Yeah. Yeah. Particularly in that world. Right, it's the art of the possible. Like this is, and people are like, And that's always been the case. smart to walk that way. People are just human beings and stop dragging out old shit I don't know what your political system is like, but we're completely trapped in this two-party system. Yeah, we have the same

2:48:13 line series of points to the argument. And it's working well. It's working for us in But most people have opinions that are a little bit of a conglomeration of both they're all in it. It's just it's a tribal thing as tribal as any other that's negative about the other person. the titles of the article. They put out like fake positive articles. Right. And

2:51:15 position to then go and destroy somebody's life who might have called them a name on As you're standing for parliament, you know, Congress or whatever, it goes for the territory, That's dark. It's not like there's someone in the pub listening to you say something negative about a politician It was like well Well, there's so much negativity because, you know, first of all, the algorithms.

2:53:52 I do feel we've got so many people around the world, I mean, I don't know if you ever saw it, but I played Roger Ailes in a TV series called The Loudest Voice, which basically is the I can't remember all the figures and everything, but the way he set up Fox News, it just became like, you know, it was 10 bucks a head in an atmosphere where it was normally 33. So

2:56:20 Where truth is one publishable option. There was an FBI analyst that he made an estimation What I used to do is just if anybody got on my timeline and chucked in some negative shit, But now you have the situation where there's ads running of it anymore. You can't just block it and chuck it out. I mean you can do it with individuals, but that's just a strange little thing that's

2:58:20 We use it for stuff to inform people about gigs with the band. But Twitter was the only one that I was interested in because it was whack, it was funny and There's also a lot of fun stuff. I'm sure, I'm sure. There's a ton of those. give more nuanced perspective on things. And if you follow the right people and you read Yeah. somebody just pops up, they start selling fake tickets,

3:01:35 Yeah, I'm optimistic. Because then you're sort And I had kind of an incredible experience where, you know, I said to my boys, look, And so often you talk to people and they say, it's like, well, I got a whole year. And you know, like one day we went out, I went out to show them this, you know, what He said, are you kidding? since COVID, but I've been working in other places,

3:05:28 And I might have a nice shirt here, but just like today, I've got shorts on underneath. and the fears they express, you know. or something positive, the vast majority of people will look towards America and say, well, that's the beacon. Thank you very much man. Thanks for being here. I really enjoyed our conversation. It was beautiful. Thank you for my son Tennyson

3:07:49 Bye everybody, thank you.