Joe Rogan Experience #2192 — Raanan Hershberg Transcript

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3:36 It was crazy. foods, a lot of dessert, but fuck it. Yeah, I mean crystal meth, but that's it. going through the pain, right? He's a psycho he does these ultra marathons. Oh my god where they run for three days then I entered into a 5k and I couldn't believe how hard it was to do. It's insane. The natural runner's high. during a runner's high. We'll find that out. Yeah. It's gotta

6:36 anywhere from a few minutes to a few hours. Yeah, you know like if you're getting a chess you can pretty much always move those fucking things around I'm not gonna let it get its fucking fangs into me. That's how I feel about video games. I used to play quake online. It gets it like numbs you out. It's crazy I just yeah, I'm afraid to like waste all that time 100% I'm like an a workaholic a bit

9:35 Of course. It's like to be like, oh no, no, they're just... It's like if do the teachers say something interesting? It's insane. It's like to be like, oh, no, no, they're just... And then they were saying that it is it was actually This is not the one that I read because this is from February the one I read was just a couple of days ago I used to, when I was in, after college,

11:23 but sure. It's crystal meth for nerds, but it's crystal meth. Dude, it's crazy. I have like, one of my bookshelves Hitler was on, one of the things, the misconceptions, he was on meth. They don't even care care I killed all the Jews No, that's insane. Back of another car near Quail Hill Shop hill shopping center she says her car just But also that's how cars get they catch fire like that like no that's insane

14:51 Yeah. I mean, I guess I still have dark jokes, And I go, what, you don't like the joke? and I apologized and he was like, oh, we're just joking. You don't like I'm not against someone dude. No like that's like Anthony That's the kind of stuff you do is if you take those risks and do that kind of stuff and get in trouble Because some people want to get filmed,

17:05 and you're saying things and you have a new bit If you release something when they weren't planning it, Yeah. It's horrible. They're saying like push the fat kid in front of you He hadn't done any comedy at all in 10 months. Exactly there's too many people that like got into it from something else and they did stand up in the beginning and then they got

19:05 You become a hero. Yeah, but no one knows about except for me bring it up you're bombing you like you don't want people see that part well it's fun to Yeah And he made it clear, and he shows it. You can't be just reading a script. You have to fit. Yeah instead of yeah to me. It's like instead of Right, right, right. Keeping that anger. I don't know if it's an act. I mean keeping that anger alive through all these shows

22:15 He's the best at like breaking down what? Yeah, look at you. He has a unique talent for it. Right, right. I don't give a fuck about it. So I have to leave it alone for a little bit if you don't give a fuck about it You don't care, and you know they work. Sometimes you get a trim sometimes you keep them in if they make a point if they're like I forget him. Sometimes a friend brings them up.

24:35 I did an hour, released an hour a couple months ago, and so I'm trying to work out a new Yeah, cuz you can go back and not forget that I have a whole my bookshelf looks like seven just drill it into my head. It's like whenever I've done late night, I start really analyzing the jokes. which is not always the best thing. Because if we were like a prodigy and you know, you were a

26:51 It's I don't want to say it, but okay. He's got this great adderall bit. He totally forgot about it. I said And you don't know if it works for your voice, you know? in the 80s and it was like, And he would sit it on the thing they don't get better because they're not like realizing that it's not working. I mean, at a certain point in time, that's one of the cool, I've been thinking about doing this

29:43 What was it like? I always want to know 100% in an interview. There was nothing written by anybody who was really good no so that was part of the problem not and Belzer was good Told them, this is how you get a manager. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that's a good Some of the most groundbreaking stuff feels the most dated later. Right. movie that you would guarantee everybody you talked to had seen The Wizard of Oz.

33:15 You know? Just slapped her because she couldn't keep a straight face. like lost feeling in her hand at one point and then they forced her to go Yeah, but that was actually later the little my babies wasn't that like in the 60s Yeah, dials on watches know that no one gave a shit and the Hollywood there was no like the stars didn't have like Because you don't know how bad you suck until you see it.

36:02 Says do you like I know why you're spanking mommy Oh my god. Well every 80s movie they're like, you gotta watch this 80s movie. It's a classic that you turn it on. Like they think it's wonderful, look. Oh sweetie, I got the job. That to movies and plays right? Yeah Yeah, well we're getting better. What is it, why reform? parents behind her and she's just on stage she has to open to the part and she's just like when a slave offends you you cut off his right arm and then

39:35 Like nobody can speak Latin so they could take the priest's word for it says give me $100 if you want to be in the afterlife kid, it's saying to suck my dick right now. They're not even doing Latin. why anyone's scared of that movie that movies hilarious Yeah, well, you should have been seeing the movie anyway. We don't believe in the devil. Yeah, everybody knows you you're famous now. You're famous for being the fucking devil. That's insane. So everywhere you go people are scared of you

42:11 But I just find it silly, it's just like, That was like disturbing. And that's again, it's like going back to listen to Lenny Bruce stuff and then trying to listen to it. He had one joke that comics inadvertently he talking so freely about things right right and he did have great joke you No, just of the stand-up. but they're just great minds think alike about like,

44:04 He got me into comedy, I always loved him. I listened to Bill Hicks recently. He got me into comedy. I don't think Anthony Jesselneck is really offensive. Like when Hicks would talk about things, he would talk about things like, And I do think he has great misdirects, like just great jokes that go beyond like what Well, the whole like, the book depository is very realistic.

45:43 but then you just have a joke that's just kinda about something else. Right, right, right. And that's really a lot of good comedy is where you take a hot button issue but then you then you just have a joke that's just kind of about something else. Right, right, right. And But I remember, I loved your bit about the tiger in the zoo, Yeah, I do, I kind of remember it. But I remember the story. These kids threw pine cones at a tiger and the tigers can

47:11 who threw the pinecones unfortunately survived I think his buddy got taken out. Monster on the box. We don't need... You don't like zoos? I guess the zoo is better for the prey. prison wouldn't look so bad. like next to the giraffe or the lion and there should be a lot larger spaces. This is a normal lion in a lion environment, and you drive through it, and it's probably dangerous shit as shit and keep your fucking windows rolled. You know that lady from the Game of Thrones,

50:29 Africa, but it was a lion coming up to the car, Yeah, he doesn't know yeah, but if he just fucking smashes his head. It'll go right through that thing Leaping over a three-foot wall and out of its enclosure. No, no, no, no, more than one of those this was the same person that died in both articles. Oh how weird they're trying to say Says oh the new glass wall makes it 19 feet

52:56 It looks like it's built to have that tiger jump off that top part onto the thing. So that's what it looked like That's yeah, the argued that the one that was confusing said that it was basically in these bushes Hmm. Well, maybe they didn't release the whole story until 2011 provoked yeah but it shouldn't be able to jump out if it's provoked yeah that's

55:46 Oh my God, another victim blaming. They were high, or like when a black person gets killed Whether he's happy or mad, they should test every mood You're just guessing. Who was the one that threw the pine cones were they all thrown? That's what they're there for that. They're there for overpopulation. Yeah, because they exist around deer Like it's crazy because they evolved around tigers.

58:00 but you never want to have a zoo is just prey that would kind of suck. Reported It's called relentless enemies. They're the hunters the females then the That's insane. Right. they're in those open jeeps yeah yeah what is that about? yeah like that shit up. What is that about? Are those Iron Man suits? What happened? So far, yeah, it's gonna be 107.

1:01:38 Time's still going. while we have the opportunity before it fucks up more. Might want to take a break. They're cracking down on our Oh, okay. They were like 30 minutes away from losing the whole grid Yeah, now I remember that. It was like the, when there was like that movie Alive. Yeah, that makes sense. know how to deal with snowy roads. How about buy a fucking plow?

1:04:11 it's kind of like that too, whenever it snowed Closing school was such a fun. Oh, yeah, no no every time we did have them Of course, and then you'd be watching the TV School's terrible. Yeah, tired and bored. Right away. Started off with 30s. Yeah, you start taking it every day or yeah right away. Yeah recreationally first recreationally Then I got the prescription. So was FDA approved. Recreationally? First, recreationally, then I got the prescription,

1:06:37 Like it kicked in and I just thought I was about to die. That's redlining. I was annoying. And so the intervention was more like, It's actually a plus. But when I write you have that voice telling you it's shit, and you can't like move forward would just take it. It was like a low dose. It's essentially just like, that's it right Look at that. They were fucking dialed in.

1:09:42 all these crazy animal hormones. He was having them remove animal organs, and they were giving him all these crazy animal hormones. Like the oxycodone should have made him like more lovey-dovey. I'm focused. When I'm on painkillers, I love my enemies. those people are probably already vicious inside of them. I would tell people I love them. So my girlfriend, speaking of drugs, she's on serious blood thinners because she just

1:12:04 Oh my God. Yeah. Is this is like something she was born And like the crazy thing is the ambulance did not take us right away They think she's having a stroke and we had like a person on TV. It was like black mirror like blood thinners for the day. but we weren't at an ICU, we were at like an ER that didn't have people stay the night. Like I've talked to friends that worked as EMTs, and they have the most morose senses of humor.

1:15:06 whatever. Oh my God, it's so crazy. She lost, she can't get it back. She has like a blind spotter Yeah, it was awful. That's the luck of the draw. She's like a better person than me, which is kind of annoying. Yeah. You know, how do I, you know, that kind of stuff. They have to tell boring work stories, and you just have to deal with it right, but her stories are never boring

1:17:50 I think so. Yeah. You've gone through a lot, right? And it says like in the middle, if they're in the middle surgery or not and then sometimes will just flash cancelled and you're like Which I get I mean she's not a comedian. She doesn't give us like I just want to be personal right? I want to bravely disclose all her personal Lifestyle especially when I moved to New York

1:20:34 Like they're there to stifle you. go in my room and shut people out. Yeah. He wasn't like headlining all the places, And that's a bad relationship because she doesn't understand him or like she thinks Like, have you ever experienced that? I'm not gonna not try because I might not make it love comedy I love like making movies I'm focused on that that's wonderful but

1:23:48 I feel like it's definitely good to already have a career of some like I have a career So I'd be at home and then everybody's basically going to bed. I'm like, I'm going out. I'm going to go do shows. So I do shows from 9 But if you're starting out then and this is like this pipe dream that you have and you're company, like yikes. Now you're kind of being an asshole. It's also, it's like, what are

1:25:47 that one day they will, and one day they'll really bear down I'll be on the road Mine. I'll babysit the kid for you. Yeah, that doesn't work. No. It's like we're about to keep us together I know. Now you're a person that's watching babies And you love it more than anything It's fascinating to watch their little minds grow and the way they interface with the world and see them develop skills and things

1:29:03 What how long she have to stay on those? But yeah, hopefully not. I mean, I think you'd have to get off if we had a kid. Yeah Prodigy that like the mother trained this But that person shouldn't have had a kid. It's like the oxycodone thing. Yeah. Who are you? Exactly. rush rush yeah That's how I go by it. We'll just prescribe it for you. It was hard to get off and it was hard to like go back to writing without it.

1:32:48 talking about this. Let's relapse right now. Nope. And not lucky, but one of my friends, his cousin, He was a guy who like got coke and sold some of it such a nerd, but that's not that's not drug dealer protocol You saw a lot of sunrises then too. Very good point. around. It just started his day when everyone was like ending their. I would stay up all night all the time. Really? Yeah, I'd go to bed.

1:35:35 go to a diner, get something to eat with my friends. They would think it was funny. I feel like that's very impressive. Yeah, but when you're playing pool all night and you're drinking coffee and just hanging out That's great. I don't make enough in comedy. No, no, I only had like shitty, and she's one of the best. You're like, yeah, how did you even get on a bus? Yeah, like it's I've heard like the craziest

1:38:33 He cut it was a carney Canada man who behead bus passenger granted freedom a significant threat. me I was the third story of the Bible, that I was like the second coming of Jesus and But in this stretch, I put that back up. they did a radio lab about this like in America if you behead someone, that's responsible because she went psychotic, she had a psychotic break from the weed.

1:41:09 Okay, if that was a man that did that to a woman and had the same excuse A potent strain of pot. She went to jail scot-free. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I between involuntary involved? I didn't mean to kill him. I only stabbed 108 times

1:42:25 it again, because he plans it. You know? intimidating and had an a temper she told the outlet so when he encouraged Kind of sorry, quote. Such sexism and bullshit. really just... She's naive Los Angeles based dispensary found marijuana flour for sale legally with TH levels as high Well, what about Chad? Like the killing of the stabbing someone hundred eight times. That's that's you

1:46:28 And I was pretty high. But weed doesn't do it. despised that guy. But you don't go around stabbing. Yeah, it seems like if you hit 108 golf balls, I should know. What is bad with Prozac? That's the thing. It's like what's fine for you is not fine for everybody I sound like I'm okay. Oh really? Manufacturer Prozac recommends that you avoid drinking and alcohol while

1:49:38 It's like an ant, it's just another SSRI. No super dizzy, and it was my psychiatrist said it wasn't even withdrawals Is there anything else that helped other than Prozac? I think it was the same thing. But the reason I thought I didn't need it is because I was on it. It was like truly like, Jesus. to the point where you notice it doesn't Doesn't doesn't destroy the world like right because I would actually

1:52:30 like, almost every time. Like if you're anxious when you go outside, on it to begin with you know do you wish you were on Prozac to begin with or do But I think it was more like all this anxiety. mirror and I saw these moles on my back and I was just convinced they were skin cancer. which I think made it more intense you know I mean how long were you off it for

1:55:10 And my parents never knew what it was. Paxil originally you know yeah but no I've always had like really bad anxiety Like I get anxiety about war, sometimes like late at night. You're watching what's happening in Ukraine, you're watching what's happening in Gaza, Suicide bombs you can watch them on on YouTube YouTube. While we're just having like culture war arguments.

1:57:24 but he wore a suicide vest. They tried to stop him and these guys run detonating them. I watched this guy, some guy, I forget what part of the world it was, Yeah, oh yeah, it's completely fragile. I used to have a bit about that. And when do we know? which is the power grid and our computer infrastructure. Think about what we've been talking about today. If you go back and watch films from the 1930s and 19...

1:59:33 of our needs are met and because there's electricity. There's no food. No one's growing food. How do you eat? It's been such a complicated, horrible thing, and it's just horrible all around. Like how can you be worried about that when people are dying in Gaza? I forget who was talking to us about this. Well I think what people have done too is there are a lot of, there is an extremist

2:01:39 But it's no different than another country like America. If you thought that. Who the fuck is answering that poll? They have a goal. I don't have a position. Well, I think that's what you're looking at when you're seeing soldiers rape Palestinian prisoners. You've seen that video? Yeah, no, that camp is awful. It's awful, truly a nightmare. We can't believe America was attacked.

2:04:36 Right. I don't think should have happened Trivialize the other person's accountability. I know it's crazy that the and also people pretending as if they know the answer right away. a coalition with some really awful people like Smotrik and Ben-Gavir. Yeah. And he's corrupt and he has charges against him that he's trying to, like, Yeah, that this kind of shit is going on that any minute it could pop off and become a nuclear

2:07:41 What freaks me out is that it could pop off at any minute and then we and then it all of a Sudden it's September 12th, you know, yeah, but way better way bigger way crazy way scarier way scarier and We really like up till like I guess That's the thing is we're not used to it happening right here. We're now we're like life has value, you know, but it's still so cheap for so many people. Well, it is in other parts of the world.

2:09:38 We're soft as baby poo. Here's the thing with Trump though. Like why why would he need so we got you thought like Biden's trying to take him out Well, my thing with a lot of conspiracy theories is it just kind of ignores incompetence. I No, no, no, no. He said that it was basically like if I thought they were going to try to assassination attempt, I know.

2:12:17 Everyone has guns. I think someone talked that guy into doing that. all the details. Well, yeah, I don't I don't know about that, but I don't know that's where things get weird, right? that he is a little depressed at that point. You know I mean so I could see that both ways, but then you have to look at the autopsy Dr. Michael Baden, who's that forensic scientist that did that show

2:14:52 that were on security were asleep. in the world could also, I could see him killing himself. I don't hate you. How do you think that happens when you get shot from behind? It's sometimes can be naive to think somewhat. There's someone mastermind everything right like to me It's like, this is the first time it's happened. That's all true. The Lee Harvey Oswald one, when you look into it, it's pretty nutty.

2:17:45 Yeah, both. It went through Kennedy and then into Connolly and then they found it in pristine condition They found the curb stone that had been hit with a bullet, and so they knew that a ricochet You know, that's straight horse shit. That's not deformed at all. That's shattered bones. That's nonsense. But what is the answer? If you want to go crazy read a book called best evidence by David Lifton who was an accountant

2:20:10 Inconsistencies, yeah, but these seem like- I was doing a lot of weird communist shit it does get found out. That apparently Kennedy was fucking someone at the pool and pulled his groin. one through the neck, and one in the head. He had a lot of like real physical problems Yeah, that makes sense. Tightly laced. Yeah. Makes sense that it kept him stiff.

2:22:48 1955 to 1963. In 1963, the specifics began to emerge. Peyton is co-author, neurosurgeon, with abdominal and joint pain, flu-like symptoms and extreme weight loss. Here's not sexy, look at this. discomfort so yeah he was all fucked up. There's a guy who has an umbrella up, saying some conspiracies are untrue I just think there's sometimes other And you're like, oh, this is how this works.

2:25:37 But that's not real. No, the reality is no one's in control. That's that's the right to me factions even at the top levels. I think they're always battling with each other. Yes. You There's extremists, there's racists, and there's peaceniks. You just don't want them out of control and the problem is absolute power corrupts I think some people there was one guy who they say might have lit the fire. I

2:28:12 Yeah, I'm gonna chop your dick off and bring you out in public. Well, yeah back then he's a fit and then the kid Look, this is Nero, dude. How do you say that name? Suetonius? Suetonius places his account in the Nero-Sporus relationship in his scandalous accounts of Bopea and that Nero called Sporus by her name. it to be derived from the Greek word sporus meaning seed or semen, which may refer to

2:30:26 Five first you find you like dark things They're like, what are you gay? Imagine that kept going and guys are just fucking guys today He's he's with you in this war. He's a fellow soldier, but he's also your lover I think it's probably one of those, He he was already married to someone else after his wife died. Oh What? And Nero made them get divorced, took Papea,

2:33:32 Nymphidus treated Sporus as a wife and called him Pompeya. reenacted after all that shit of a rape of the He probably saw so many people get fucked up in gladiator shows. Why do they feel the need to publicly humiliate him? Yeah. awful but like we are we are getting better. We are way do whatever you wanted didn't last long eventually came for you he got what

2:36:17 The store took Sporos and did that to him. Sorry. After he had sex with his mom, he killed her too. No. Elizabeth this so this is a very controversial story. I just know about Hitler. I don't know about it. But then the revisionist approach to it was that they accused her of all these things Oh, so she didn't do it? beautiful young ladies. I wasn't dead before now. He's like everyone knows him. I'm a little disappointed. I was a dim. He's mainstream now

2:39:30 And the other guy's like, thank God. Case of Elizabeth Bathory inspired numerous stories The story came into question in 1817 when the witness accounts, which had surfaced in though, yeah I think there was another article that Elizabeth Bathory was like Later, they got her servants to make proof against her Yeah, that seems a little fishy too. It's like my place away from my phone and stuff.

2:42:45 But hey dude, it's been really fun talking to you man it was really good time thanks for doing this I really like it dark huh? I like it dark. Memory Room. and he seems to really like the song. You did well. That's why you're laughing Finish editing and then send it to all these film festivals and try to get in It was a good time.