Joe Rogan Experience #2198 — Bret Weinstein Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Yeah, I think we just stole his plane. didn't no not us okay good the United States Yeah, no chance illegally purchased for $13 million through a shell company and smuggled out of the United planes? Is that what it is? Like, because we have a problem with them would they say how much it cost 13 million bucks government has seized dozens of luxury vehicles among other assets headed to Venezuela.

3:30 know Putin, so give me your boat. And the problem is, yes, I do think people are catching on to the fact that they never jeez you know and then you get cynical oh it's all bullshit this whole system What am I saying? How many people are children rather? Oh, geez, I have no idea on the percent. The percentage of voter fraud is never zero, correct? And they're always like yes. No one can say it's zero

6:20 who questions it, even though questioning it is the obvious thing to do. the normalization of voting by mail, the normalization of voting across a period of time so that That leaves the possibility open to cheat. More important than anything. everything. They feel entitled to coerce. So the idea that we're supposed to imagine But there's something insane about how many people

9:18 Not one, not 20. Did an episode of News Radio with him. Super nice guy. Good guy. Yeah, I got that impression But the rate at which it's happening has changed radically. dropping like flies. They would 100% The narrative takes on a reality of its own even though it is contradicted by the facts in the way we discuss it? Yeah, although, you know, I'm sure you're having the same experience.

12:44 You asked the question though, if in the future disappeared when they did, and that that's not healthy. You need to be able to create a record. It's never The Red Scare is a weird example because people would like to kind of dismiss the impact that It was like everybody went crazy. And it's important to get your comeuppance on these stories. Well, if you just get one good one, you're hooked.

15:28 that rabbit hole. And I think you're just ultimately left to the question. Something That's a good point, a certain amount of democracy. Like who the fuck are you talking to? Who are you talking to? You're not talking to Oh yeah, multiple universes, sure. margin. And one of the things that I'm trying to convince people of is that it's not hopeless because they can cheat,

18:27 couldn't have told you if it was true before he won the presidency, which is, is there That's true. Biden was already cooked before he got in. Yeah, Trump physically, and actually, different responses from like the hardcore Republicans are not going to be for that. We're supposed to not be able to even talk about it. I think as they should be in the third trimester. And that people are incredibly queasy about it, I think, as they should be

21:42 Yeah, it's a MAGA party. Right, exactly. And that's a very different thing because I see a different thing and it's flagged. It's a MAGA party. Yeah, it's a MAGA party. Right, exactly. those people were homeless. And then Trump picked them up as MAGA and they're now under neighborhoods safe. there's involvement in that. What are you talking about like what if I just decides to go nuclear at any point in time?

24:24 OK, my parents are good people, you can barely figure out what these people are talking about. I'm not quite sure what to expect. Oh, yeah, of course. The Constitution is sacred. Is it also dangerous? Yeah, it's incredible. I mean, it's, on the one hand, completely predictable, right? Because been cultivated. You can't make that argument that we can't have a First Amendment because the First Amendment

27:51 as of yesterday. Existential threat right and they always have particular versions of this right not as ramped up as this right? faithful, that argument still works. made about how you're telling me that he's going to do these things that he didn't when Thing that they convicted him of that this is essentially an accounting error or deception a different standard for Trump because they want to keep

31:17 Just like the left has moved so far left that if you're not in favor of hormone blockers for kids, somehow you're transphobic It can go really creepy far right, just like it's really creepy far left, and then they're believing that they would never be in the hands of anybody that wasn't on their team, a violation of our Constitution, and yet they exist there.

33:19 I just don't think it makes any sense, analytically very simple, right? So I think what it is is, without the proliferation of universes? The subatomic particles are insane, Let's just agree that the universe, the size of it, exist, shouldn't exist in the time period in which they would have to be formed in a by solved the problem of this immense thing that's impossible to grasp

38:10 Right, it's exciting. It's a good way to think of it. If you think of it as a temporary stand-in everywhere is so bizarre. Black holes are so bizarre. Supernovas they're so So that was like a simplifying discovery. those things. For the same reason the light can't get out, there's no way to peer in. massive black holes. What the hell is it? Right. What about a future in which we develop some sort of propulsion

41:12 Oh, we'll just text people and- I think there is life out there because it doesn't make sense there isn't and It would send the world into a massive panic. there's lots of life in the universe. us. But as to your last point, I actually, well first of all, everybody, every thinking person Heard that this stuff was going on if the ship showed up in the sky and you could see it with your binoculars. I

44:31 We're gonna make decisions for everybody that would throw a monkey wrench completely into the gears of that. Oh not alone, I would do it slowly. questions about his education background, bullshit a few decades. Unless you have some kind of evidence, This is my conclusion over time. Maybe occasionally they show themselves and maybe they have Right. passing through because they're not they don't displace anything.

49:08 And heck, if you had a... We all agree to that. human beings could do. when they were doing their training mission, A projection. And where would the projector be? that you had aircraft in its airspace, going to have the idea that actually in this case it would be useful if some unassailable who will do stuff in front of you that you don't walk out of

52:53 were going to do so in a context that you would have no concept things that they are more open to because they were in a state in which that defy all our understanding of how to create alloys and how expensive it would be Right. I mean, I don't know who... See if you could find anything on Gary Nolan's samples. I'd leave a bunch of bullshit out in the field. I'd blindfold them like they did. I take them out to this spot

55:33 They're partying. They got here and they just... They don't know they're... come over here so they would vote. Of course they would. That's a great way to get voters. So this is a different, it might be a different pronunciation That's the most wild one. evidence you and I have is pixels. Yeah. Yeah, immediately. Yeah If it's true. Like, think of how many Corvettes there are.

58:56 Right, and yet, and yet, most of them make it from A to B. Australians are wild folk. Jerry cans of petrol so they can keep going and well, I kind of dig this look Maybe those alien people are nuts, Well, you gotta also think, here's another problem with the idea of them being biological. Make another rover, ship it out there, fly it. a better option for sending some intelligent robot to gather data, why would anybody go

1:01:48 reason to go to Mars is we're in jeopardy here. And I don't think Mars is in any way Elon's position on this. That we're in danger of the human race going extinct from a variety Yeah. And we're really looking at a very brief amount of time that we can measure in terms of a exist as we exist right now. I mean, of course, there's an anthropic principle in play here as well, because the

1:04:46 Right. But then, or at least intelligent. And you've adapted to an environment that can vary by 300 degrees right now once people sort of settle down. Yeah, I mean, I'm you know, I get it. It's not Like we're not even an individual. into complex systems. and they think they know what it's going to do, they're It is occasionally true if somebody is quite sick that you can push them back in the direction

1:08:22 harm. Right. change is so high that even to the extent that we are highly adaptable, we can't adapt at multiple different levels. biology. Hundred percent. Yes. Which is just madness. So the reductionist depending on the fact that your body knows how to heal the damage, So anyway, there are a few things in medicine that are transcendently awesome, like the ability of a surgeon to

1:12:20 should take our hands off, which is of course not profitable. Right. The problem is we want you to be hooked on a medication because then we can prescribe during COVID, where almost every doctor ended up And they really believed. over the next five, 10 years? them are micro blood clots, some of them are significant, but that they find known better because it couldn't possibly have been. And there's no course taught in medical school about repentance.

1:15:22 And then there's all these people in the comments Opening old controversies quickly is sensible. He admitted it. His doctor has him on ivermectin for long COVID. COVID is weird because it's like saying you're still sick from COVID. That's not really what happened. Like, what does that mean? I sent them to Pierre. Yeah, I believe so, or it's in process.

1:19:03 That's crazy. If you're sick and it makes you better, from any of the responsibility of making a terrible choice. And it turns out now that the myocarditis appears to have been vaccine-induced myocarditis if a person is suffering from a viral infection that they will have high troponin levels, And inflammation is there for a reason. Those heart cells produce...

1:22:00 school chemistry that like dissolves likes, so fats dissolve other fats. So heart, well, anywhere it happens, it will trigger your immune system to spot this antigen repair itself. It scars instead, and it takes time to scar. your lifetime capacity for your heart to function, and in the short term it creates a substantial accidentally landed inside a vein.

1:25:19 In fact, people were specifically told not to do it. And the rationale was they did not to your heart and got picked up there, it might not just be a small number of cells, Well, here's the problem. I don't know how dumb these people are. There was a lot of people that were talking about being injured and they were getting attacked like remember when they were going after

1:28:02 there's always adverse events. Yeah. something is profitable and they know they can get away with it because they don't have any So if they know that they can get it's their job as CEO to push that shit through use it So we have a revolving door to make it nice and easy. just doesn't make any sense. Yeah, explain when this happened and how it happened to people so they understand that

1:32:05 There's so many of them, they give them to them so quickly. They're like, there's no way. What? It already had a hall it already had hall pass. to get a weak shot to function and that that means being deployed. And I also now recognize, I believe I have a vaccine But wait a minute, because isn't always existed, and they existed before even think, oh, these things are long standing, they've been there, maybe there's been an

1:36:13 by what that cause might be because people are being, every new generation has people being maimed Right. Right. Because we share an environment. is, I keep having this experience where there are various stories that we all carry around aspirin in doses that are now known to be deadly. Okay, so a lot of people drowned Same thing happened with my understanding of polio.

1:39:30 gut pathology, goes away of its own accord. What appears to have happened that caused And in a child, the gut is sitting right in front of the spinal cord. of the gut and touch the spinal cord. with that would be resistant to things like jays eating them as caterpillars. And this one entomologist had gypsy moths from Europe in Oh my God, why didn't that guy torch his field?

1:43:00 that ended that horror, therefore blah blah blah blah, blah, blah, blah. That's not the story. then you have to start rethinking things, Mosquitoes. And isn't that disease, West Nile virus, isn't that like 80% of the people, it's almost nothing? it's very Orwellian. what's in the park, what's at the lake, where they all breed? One, I've seen spraying like that in person before.

1:45:52 The idea that we are now, A, why is it we are dealing with aous panic over Eastern equine encephalitis and West Nile virus? Well, that is a very I don't know whether anybody expected this result, but when it was pursued, that was remarked on them because it was weird when you got sick during the summer. of a self-inflicted wound, right? We should at least be asking that question. Instead, we are

1:48:55 They're going to start eroding civil liberties over the presence of this disease. and suddenly there's one case and people are freaking out. And then we are, you know, having lockdowns. IG4. IG4. What does that stand for? We just know measurably people who have more of them have this. if it's also research that might contribute to public health. or gets better, they have to jump from one person to the next. Very, very few are ever

1:52:46 Because it's inconceivable that you would. So they're using the excuse of public health But was there any literature that indicated have two problems. One of them is there aren't that many weaponizable human pathogens, right? if they create something that is a frightening weapon that could in principle in their warped in the best case, accidentally done is created a vulnerability in the populations that took the mRNA shots that does not exist

1:56:26 No, Novavax is another new technology. ought to give us pause. So if weapons manufacturers were Well, look, I do not know how crazy these people are, and I don't really know who they what we all think we understand about where the tensions are, who are the allies and who are the antagonists on the world stage. so you're worried about what would happen

1:59:43 a solution to function. Doctors So is there a certain point in time where after the infection it's not going to be to fail. day three, those jumps are substantial. But the so-called pandemic would be significant enough to get everybody to engage in the same If you're going to have a vaccine that is paid for by the government that not only that the government profits off of, right? So they own patent, right? They own a piece of Moderna, right?

2:03:39 when what they did on CNN and all those networks which is like the peak years where people are taking it? Yeah, I'm not gonna guess. Cominardi says generated 75 billion between 21 and 22 doesn't include 23 and It's not? else works. If you have another effective medication, you don't get emergency use I totally get it. in theory should have prevented in the UA.

2:07:14 are supposed to do, they would have discovered that there were treatments, So I suspect the reason I say that $100 billion isn't a lot of money when it obviously is deep this rabbit hole goes. I do think there is something remarkable about the circumstances. And so they took a virus that shouldn't have existed in humans at all and wasn't that terrifying when it was released into the population.

2:10:05 own decisions and doctors are allowed to make their own decisions, there's a lot of, it's you lose the control, and now you've got this platform rolled out. I just don't think it was necessary for them to, they could have overcome that obstacle there's another term, it's not authorized, thing. There's something very deep there around the legal status of that emergency use authorized pharmaceutical. And so do you think

2:12:53 And pregnant women. And pregnant women. Right. We now have a novel pathogen that what's going on in Japan? The self-replicating mRNA? No. So there's a you into a vaccine factory, right? Your cells became the vaccine factory. And there are were short-lived, we didn't have to worry about this shot because the mRNAs something because there are a substantial number of design flaws. But these self-replicating mRNAs, the

2:16:11 making new messages, what they're going to do is they're going to allow the mRNA compromised immunity, and they would have thought, holy shit, what did we miss? But But isn't people making money off these medications the real reason why stuff like Now, that's going to sound crazy to people, but let me defend it for a second. Plant does not want you eating its seed, right? So it puts toxins

2:19:42 We've cured gangrene. to begin with. So yeah, I think the cost we pay is huge huge. Well, that seems reasonable. Like when I had Hotez on, he was talking about his diet. It's nuts. when Trump was president, his stance on the mRNA platform when Trump was president versus It's number two. people dying and inflate numbers and inflate this and that. By the way, got over it real quick.

2:23:32 we thought it was going to be, you're going to be fine. The amount of profit they would have made would have been significantly less and the enthusiasm for the platform would have been significantly less and they needed an emergency to do it. That's the most Yes. And, you know, even those distinctions, I think, are quaint. We are now watching the And we're going to have to level up quickly if we're actually going to survive this.

2:27:11 laugh and they will say, ah, everybody always says this is the last opportunity, at a rate that no other competing system has ever come close to. And it is very strong And what would be the way they would go about doing that? Yeah. It's dangerous. The First Amendment is dangerous. The Constitution is dangerous. Don't you see So they said, you know what, you can't do it.

2:31:50 in a kindergarten classroom, but it's not appropriate in a civilization where we have liberties creaking. of the next month. is really about rescuing the Republic in order to save the West. This is an attempt to gather the unity movement that is forming at this really an attempt to bookend that era, to end it, and to start a new era in which, resonate with. These are just fundamentals, and we can go through them in a second if

2:36:09 to happen where President Trump brought on Bobby Kennedy when Bobby Kennedy stepped out of the race, very clear to people who are listening to this. And I realize you're an MMA guy, so They're some of the nicest guys you ever want to meet. are making it inevitable. We want to head them off at the pass, and we want to proclaim what it is say to themselves, you know what? I'm not sure how much my vote counts. I'm not sure

2:40:20 The fact that the Trump campaign was uninterested in talking about the problems error, but we have to be able to talk freely. There's nobody who knows what the facts are so lawfare. We've seen the radical abuse of the courts. Much of it amounts to we have to have a national conversation about how to hold elections that are transparent The there are two more and these are out of order on the screen.

2:44:18 great experiment. And then the last one is... on them, and that it's not your right as a parent to say no. Mall on September 29th and show themselves. And really I think if you had by virtue of the balance of the plan. phrase? Something like inorganic behavior or inauthentic behavior, which was code for people with a swastika flag to the trucker march so you can claim that they're Nazis. Exactly the same stuff. It's just organized. Yeah, it's organized. So I don't know, I do think unity is the right message. I think

2:48:27 know that will be hard for many people who have thought ill of him to swallow but But he be not tidy will be there, but he will be there. folks, so by the way, Bobby says hello. There are some other folks that we are negotiating of Americans coming together across ideological divides and joining together in order We had forgot to talk about this one thing.

2:51:09 So let me just say I saw that segment, of course, perspective is coming from and why it's incorrect, it About everything. I felt like I had no choice but yeah, I remember you took a lot of heat for that Mean, he doesn't do himself any favors like when he had that guy on that said he blew Obama like wait there's a certain group of people that are just on team blue.

2:54:11 But it's being connected to Fox News. empty. Yeah, well, it's just the rational voice is so discouraged in today's world, It's a moronic way to look at the world. the dark cloud of the Kennedy family, this one guy who's just nuts, unfortunately. Too It's like, okay, how do you get there? Yeah, he is our champion, and we were led to believe that he was...

2:57:15 You're being led by what's essentially propaganda. Just I'm a biologist a way that prevented them from seeing that there was a major error in the version that they were presenting. anyone had ever come up with, and his defense for that I find very compelling. His defense make some things outdo other things to accumulate. When DNA, so the order of Darwin didn't know about it.

3:02:13 that this provides a place for the information that Mendel had pointed to, that Darwin had teach us, random mutations in protein coding genes are almost always bad. It's collecting other wavelengths of light. How can you get a molecule that happens to collect certain wavelengths of light? up and down that mutations in protein-coding genes, if you give it enough time and enough selective force, can do everything

3:05:29 A computer, a modern computer, functions based on binary, that's missing. There's a layer called compilers and computer languages that Mm-hmm. about it. He's passionate about it. In fact, where I overlapped with him was at a and figuring out what's there, right? Should I be troubled by the fact that he believes And I think we've glimpsed it. language that turbocharges the process of adaptation. And so the point about Stephen Meyer is

3:10:04 done it in the amount of time you're claiming they were created. So it's that kind of an error. more sense to me than the story in which some Darwinian process produces all of but if there was a creator I believe not only a did they use selection and Okay? was intentionally created, that something is inside something that wasn't. It has to There's a lot more to say to Tucker. I would say the number of places, the genomes of the