Joe Rogan Experience #2199 — Chris Harris Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Largely because my friend and colleague who was nearly killed in the accident I'm not, I'm here to, I'll say some things What's that? Exactly. well, why would you follow Jeremy Clarkson on Top Gear? if he saw me say no to this job, would punch me in the face. Yeah. But you try following him in the UK just because of how much he's loved and yeah. Yeah

2:54 it was always shit because it wasn't Jeremy. Am I allowed to say what it is or not? Mmm, you know we go to a city don't order a Heineken or a bud drink the local beer Do you think you'll be allowed to drive that Although they know that it was 2035 then the last administration moved it back to 2030 They have a place. you drill a hole in the ground, But Iceland's cold and the battery capacity, when it gets really cold, diminishes pretty

5:28 So effectively, you're either the rebellion I like it, it works. That's, it has that's attached to climate change. around in my Raptor but then it could could be suggested that that means that you should make a difference. But I find it really difficult that we can't understand vehicles, which is a fact in America. And there's also this weird thing that is attached to this.

8:09 businesses like the business of vaccines or the businesses of as well but be electric, they'd take it. But no one can do that at the moment. I mean, we talk about shipping. more green on earth today than there was in the last 100 years. And I do want I want things to be different If you were to invite an alien down in that vehicle there and try and show off what we're capable of

11:33 Yes. I like a wheel better. I don't, and in this city, there are a lot of jaguars in the corner of the bar that's just a bit shuffly, Yeah, I don't, I mean, probably one day it's going to be the way to do it, the way to get And it that's a rare car. Oh, I love it And it just when I drive it, I just I'm smiling. The nine six four that's mine. That's beautiful. It's so good. How much power is that go?

15:10 if I do wake up some days and think I'm pretty wasteful individual or whatever it is, you It's the greenest thing you can do in your life is buy a used Ferrari or a Lamborghini, right? They're too heavy. They go right through with guardrails. Jesus. They're too heavy. Just look to old stuff. We had the Touring in the UK. But actually, the journey of just reconditioning and renewing something like that to use for the next

17:57 We actually grew up in the same town. And with motorcycles as well. Ducati I'd bought. I like bikes, I'm not very good on them, but I like bikes. And I was so I was milling about wearing my leathers still. They angle grind it off, break the steering, And I challenged them and I said, this is not on. And I was really shocked. I'd never had anything like that happen to me. So I picked the bike up and I walked it down to the

20:48 You know tough. He's a big boy, and he's like he's fine, but those levers are too long. They don't suit that bike Yeah, very hard to find how much power does yours have? Well, I got a Nismo Yeah. There's a point in this process where that came out, 1,750 kilograms. And the internet had a massive collective baby and went, oh, it's a BMW M5. I forget who did it. Well, the new one came out and it was 300 kilograms heavier than the last one and the

23:23 And actually mass only matters Could only imagine I had an m5. I miss it Was it not? It was a good car. from a mile. And I why I didn't buy it, I don't know. It was a cool thing. It's my favorite car name ever. I've driven it. There's a video on online of that in this gold thing. How is it? You need to sit down after driving it, because it's just I'm going to have bits of metal coming out the

26:35 is how light did you get your green card down to is that it that's what they just Because they're supposed to look like 80s wheels from Le Mans. being given or being offered They're not going to stray too far from the original philosophy of the car. that car. Right. But they'd be terrified, I suspect, of the potential don't really do that that much the new ones are much better they've got well

29:47 everything yeah I'll tell you what a top gear story it's fairly interesting my goes off the road. Well, that's the- Paul Walker. Witchcraft if you go if you get in a new Porsche GT3 RS now the tire They've developed for that probably has four compounds across it There's a lot of reasons why you would want a tire that I mean that I know they did make them

32:30 to make money. Right. Normally the latter. Yeah, I don't know. It's probably a performance Because it's what it's the main factor, but they're not sexy tires are not sexy definition And when they come to replace that tire, I like to remain dignified. There's been an American one, there's one in Finland, What a joy I don't push a desk I get to I get to wreck other people's tires

35:26 So what happened? I was there on the day, I was the only presenter with Fred that day. I can tell you now that he even unless he's a physical specimen, Fred, he's a big guy, move on under very difficult circumstances. So that day was very difficult, before, present that day, me and someone else, a pro driver. But he was a real enthusiast. Give me the last bit of advice on what I should do, what I

38:36 But my situation is nothing compared to his. beautiful children. I'm not in Fred's position. Andrew and Fred are the same person. Sorry, went to them I went to the BBC and I told them of my concerns from what I'd arms race between us and maybe the other that. It's good. You just got gotta, you know, I just turn up This is the critical thing. And my role was to tell people what cars were like.

42:01 question of whether we get injured. But or an award but this was just the shit skit I normally just go with the flow, but I saw this coming. And I, even now, I'm totally perplexed by the whole thing. Everything went quiet. And I'd already been told that I no longer had a job. So I'd been told that Top Gear And I've never told anyone that, you know, I think I want to tell people that I did because

45:19 laugh with you. It's can you just do that right and and then you want to be a crowd pleaser Yeah. Yeah, my my Everyone that's shot with me will be ever been reminded of this now and again If it's 6 o'clock, 5.30, I'm gone. That's another one that's another red flag for me. I'm very proud of, because we executed it well. It was brave and it was a really memorable piece

49:02 Oh God. And there's other stuff that we did that I can't understand been part of it's it's ridiculous yeah and I'm proud of that stuff one thing we And it's decided we'd be good if we did this. We had to wear these shoes. And he falls off. I can give you some levity there. A really acrid smell. and it was just smoldering on fire. no one really. It just went like that, bang, done. And that was very hard because I just

53:12 Maybe it's because I hosted fear factor for so long. I've seen so many things like that. They're not interesting to me But what about online? I remember that's when I was like, oh my God. algorithm is terrifying. If you've just received you know check from a Resto mod isn't it? Yes. Yes similar. I mean, it's essentially a new vehicle I mean, Linear Television, I joined a TV show

55:54 They do a great job. That waiting for a very specific time to watch a program, no one is interested in that anymore. It's not gonna wait for you. There it is. The podcast is a as a concept is amazing as well I think that the moment your life gets difficult you regress to what is your comfort food my comfort food is cars about it And the thing you pointed out there this idea of of having to

58:33 When the first M2 came out, I was giving it to review for Top Gear and I just which were going to tell people It can do that. It could just cater for us nerds say thank you? He said because you've made such a difference to my life. I'm not China has Apple stores that aren't even Apple. Does it? Yes. China has full Apple stores within a network or have you the international property in

1:01:36 I I went out there at three in the morning, right? I nearly crashed that car. I paid for those rear tires, right? say a few things, like, hey, look at Chris Harris doing Yeah. it's just extraordinary. But the Chinese example was the best for me though. I to draw one and done their own version of it. you can't learn it afterwards. the measurements of the interiors and of the engines

1:03:59 Oh, they've stolen a march on everyone. have Tesla, which is the only other global leader electric cars that have landed in Europe in the last six No. it's a very again for particular people maybe the thing I the point I didn't you have the freedom to travel, to choose where you're going and I think in a can be your plaid is a great example. It's a time machine. Yeah. It's a time

1:07:29 upgrade the brakes they make it much more just agile I think the main thing that's ready for a shakeup, and he's had a go. I just let him do what he does. I didn't even heard of ten years ago I was and I actually leaving it was the best thing I ever did at that time that's not the case but probably. Yeah. I think they would like to do that in was a lot of very unkind things said about Andrew's accident and Top Gear afterwards.

1:11:13 think it's necessary I don't think it's good for you I don't think anybody gets I'm very aware because we've done a lot of research, was a nice guy and then everything everything changes and Just don't engage don't it's I'm interested in reading people when they're toxic opinions sometimes whatever it is, if you're in a bad place, You're like, everything's saying,

1:13:20 but I was very, I couldn't believe and one of the reasons why I only do them You wanna be there talking, so the person says something and go, oh, okay, I get it. Well, there's nothing wrong with doing podcasts over zoom. The problem is with guests. Exactly. Self-assessing though. You can't be a person that is clueless about how other people see you.

1:15:52 you can't wallow in the positivity either. I just think you don't have the right to just pick and Keep moving, keep moving. because there's not as many right-wing voices and then you change your perspective. Actually, with a segue back to the BBC, I've seen that with that network I work with. I So you see people having ridiculous suggestions that everybody has to entertain because Bob is an executive.

1:18:18 be my last thing I've done for the BBC probably I did it with Paddy I loved it I sat and I drank world-class quantities of single malt. Yeah, and I and I I And I'm like, no, he really fucking isn't. And this organization decided to send me off to go to Sweden to see what it's like why they have a I'm like and I'll do I'm that guy that'll eat most things, you know, if you film top gear you've been around the world you've eaten

1:21:32 And this Swedish guy said, it's the essence of a beaver Grecian over so someone milked a beaver. Oh boy. I drank it wasn't that bad doing some other work and I I Every food I ate tasted of beaver. I was thinking, how did you burn it off? You know when it's just there as a sort of residual taste? That's so crazy. Like they were trying to monetize it so you had to subscribe online or to access the content

1:24:49 by the lack of people wanting to buy paper newspapers. How many listeners would you lose, do you think, if you put a paywall up for this? problem as well. But the expectation is that content is now free. Right. You know, how My friend Yoni has one of those too. Mine has a nice little kickstand. Look at this The other thing I've come to do in this state,

1:26:55 but I have to get this bumper sticker oh we get you one it says it did she just It's brilliant. And I want that. I have a... how to fight off the Comanche and settle down, Also, they've been conditioned to become animals, you know, to be extreme fighters. Once their But also you're surrounded by Texas Texas, the real Texas. of having that about them.

1:29:46 Second Amendment in the UK because they can tell you, we're going to lock you in jail It's maybe what's transpired for me, having traveled here so many times and worked here so often in the last 25 years, Maybe this is the older you get. And the older I get, the more emoliant like they're straightforward, but they're not. Everything has subtleties, doesn't it?

1:32:05 As you should be. than being driven around. Because of that because of there's these shitty opinions and nasty people and all this information You can. But through the prism of parenthood, and I was just hated because I wasn't Jeremy. Like what kind of a piece of shit if I was a political broadcaster or someone that was talking about the NRA But two people in a car had approached him and tried to

1:35:28 but when you've experienced those things, beings, and when you're confronted with it, we're kind It's a motor car. I'm going to get in trouble. But I thought the other people could cut could carry off the Jeremy bit right and I now realize that's very difficult All right. Then we have to figure out why the car dies So ultimately, you reverse engineer an outcome.

1:38:35 You're lying. Well, how many of those 1988 Toyota Land Cruisers are still on the road Read it. Yeah, but I do think that I we've got to get all this packaged together, that's our hour there, that's our hour there. the car my dog loves going in the car he knows we're gonna go do something fun Because for me, it's a demonstration of who I am. I want the things I love the most to

1:42:05 switchgear that's laid on the horizontal because I was on a slip road in an in an He's not allowed aware of that. But he's a great dog companion, no dog sickness. But it's awful. Why do you like station wagons? And at that point I had my old dog boss, Vymorana, So I took the car back and the guy he saw it and said what's the problem? I said the dog doesn't like it.

1:45:02 interior with. have like a reference of discernibility. A menu. Yeah it's just very different than ours. But there's an emotional sensitivity her and sit with her all night and provide heat to the part of her body And he's like, okay, we're going around the back. and someone was killed by wild dogs Everyone he meets, like, you're my new friend. And he just want everybody wants to play and that's what he does

1:48:42 a clip of my friend Steve Rinella, and he So their diet is so rich in protein from salmon. They have so they're enormous back the next day, they trek six hours, they find the spot, they sit down and they just impossibly big and it's gnashing its teeth 18 inches away from his head as it runs Yeah, I think I think will casually go yeah man that'll that bites you you're fucked. You're like what do you mean? It's a spider. No mate

1:52:41 not gonna do it. You have to experience them. You have to actually be around one and see it. Yeah, so you were a food source. I like people that, as you can tell, I like- And the idea there's so much stuff that we might not know about does interest me. have some enormous number of names for these creatures, He was there going, I think there's something here.

1:54:54 Sure. We simply don't, we don't have mountain lions. California killed all the bears, all the grizzlies. Oh, yeah, have you ever seen that BBC show where they put the guy in the glass cube? Oh my god I mean what was going on there? How do you know that's going to work by the way? a fucking super predator blue blue was a bear. What's Baloo? Baloo? Jungle Book. Oh yeah. The friendliest. It's

1:57:41 and things that was coming at you. So they carried this thing, they carried this thing that had Good luck bounce right off its head. Their heads are so thick That's a good question. Kills things and eats dead things and it's what it wants to do. And I think in America it happened with Teddy Roosevelt, with the teddy bear. It'll pull you out of your tent.

2:01:00 And they start they actually started in my hometown of Bristol The BBC made a fantastic documentary, But there's been a few stories And then you kind of fuck them up, They all have a seagull warning now on the shop front saying when you buy your fish and chips No, there's so many videos of different birds throwing down it's being recorded mm-hmm I had never seen this stuff I've got a particular

2:04:12 Everyone I know loves them. right? Right. You have an exoskeleton, so you're inside out. This thing or someone or something No, it shouldn't be allowed. So like anything that you're scared of, you're fascinated by it. What is that? 3,300 Newtons. Yes. So when I read that, I just- So what is that thing biting through? It's a hard life. It's a hard life for them, you know? And you can't make them pets.

2:07:25 It was run a bit like 40 Towers. other stuff and it had an article about Japanese giants these giant spider I don't think, I've never heard of anyone eating a coconut crab. I wonder why. I'm gonna send you a picture if I get one. However, the species is threatened by intensive hunting. Oh poor poor babies they ate a million heart who's fucking side are you

2:10:21 and only once did we go somewhere where there was, we had to go there, and we were just in Cuba Okay. Fucking hell. which was typically bad for me. I think we all have a creature, maybe bogeyman or a bogeywoman from either an ancestor getting bit Cuba was fascinating because I suppose as an American citizen, your government can tell you can't go somewhere,

2:13:03 You know, it's not something that's been allowed to develop on the north side of the island that when it's operating has a plume of smoke that goes It's amazing. Yeah, it's not good. Yeah, but but as a tourist you obviously presented something completely contorted. I think that's what happens you would, I would get them. like in a Ziploc bag, send me a few cigars. And then he would send me the cigars with no labels, like in a Ziploc bag, send me a few cigars,

2:16:16 just breathing in particulates every day. I mean, it's just mind-bendingly brilliant. vastness of that part of the world the Soviet Union if we think that America the United States America is big And they plotted all of it in a map. There's something else there. people will have seen it will understand. It does feel like just the Your rat has got a bit of grunt.

2:19:05 amount of carbon that's put out by the burning rockets? back in the 80s, when they were using some very funky fuels because they they had sometimes have an area outside the Formula One garage. Bugatti, tells some amazing stories about literally being gasoline, you can see the lower IQ in the kids. something I bought from the internet which is Boots Chemists so our chemists

2:21:40 Oh, boy. Of course they did. I've heard of that. Well it's probably true it's terrible for you. Yes however smoking can make you We just don't know what it is yet Someone will someone will invent something that means that we won't need the cobalt and the lithium So this guy had developed this water-powered car that you know had Oh, okay. So his bizarre death at age 57 ended work that, if proved valid, scroll up, could

2:25:47 How did it run on water? Hmm. Meyer said his invention did so by using much less electricity than physicists say is possible. Basically it says you cannot get something for nothing. His first few words were, the Lord sent me here to this home. or the privacy of towering oak and sycamore trees. Julia isn't sure what Meyer saw there, but she Jesus. Hard to tell. But. But I I tell you what you love a conspiracy

2:29:41 Well, the oil business. that a deal might have been struck. imagination I don't know what it is but I I like I like maybe I'm terrified of not on the test rig. test rig it has lower emissions than it should do. This had been going on for a long time, but the scale of it One has to assume quite a few. they couldn't suddenly backtrack on it, right and there's and I think the

2:33:42 they might've. It makes very good listening. I love listening to talk about it Do you know the latest one about this gentleman who a car and then he gets hit by a freak water spout and sinks his yacht. I'm going to be a soft cock again, but I'm going to say that I read it and my eyes, well A few days before. Think I suppose the difficulty I have with that is that's a tragedy

2:36:27 It's awful. Yeah. Yeah. It really is. thought but if someone could do that in a sport they can do it in the rest of and then an online Discord server Loses by TKO in the first round blows his knee out his knee apparently already been fucked and so this guy who Just because what they do is they reveal the competitive Like what kind of stuff? particular car he'd been racing, covered in sweat, because it was such a monster to drive. But it turned out that it was a V12, and it was very, very

2:40:43 I don't think I'm misquoting. to fill up the bladder. and not getting caught? Right, because of all the money involved. But they created this brilliantly simple bypass where the cars run side by side at a drag race. didn't know. They just knew that sometimes when they got in the car It's incredible. but also trying not to get caught and some of of the, just the way that they've,

2:44:04 It was a car that Andretti won wings. And what they would do is they'd lower these, there was a sort of a handle, teams were like, they've got a trick differential, they've put that under there and run away with it. of, and they are within a tenth of each other on a track? It's amazing. It is amazing. But Think direct crossover there's some years, if he went to be involved in the next Tesla

2:48:00 going through brakes, obviously. And someone went, well, why don't we use different material It's what we learned about materials, isn't it? in a McLaren Speedtail. And the level of classification around the vehicle So the IP stays with you guys. And they beat human pilots 100% of the time in dogfights. For example, in the theatre of war, I'm not sure you can decide whether the ground is

2:50:23 the line much quicker than the plane would overtake at a certain point. But I was told very clearly It's fucking fast. driver would tell you, and I'm a pretty poor racing driver, you know when the front wheels Look at that! It comes past me like that. why these electric things make no sound. they don't share the IP at all. You're not allowed to we were

2:53:00 There's a whole load of stuff that's got moving parts. cool. So you hold on to the- And then you do that very thing. You're forcing blood and you feel Yeah, you have to fight it all. fastest man on earth he's the one that still holds the world's land speed And Andy, during that phase, said, I've got an extra 300. You start off with a jet. Look at that fucking thing.

2:56:32 you go to their training facility there's weightlifting equipment everywhere