Joe Rogan Experience #2204 — Matt Walsh Transcript

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0:00 This episode is brought to you by ZipRecruiter. candidates for your role golf, tennis, and more. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. I watched it in the gym. I watched it in the gym. Yeah, that was kind of, I mean, I gave her my name and she had no clue. And it was an hour and a half of the most mind numbing conversation where I'm just none

3:32 where you can do something a little weird. that was a So in a certain way, it was like, And then she basically said almost nothing. Yeah, yeah, they would have. And that's why, yeah. Like props to the furries. But it's actually a perfect example of what these people do, But for them, they have one lens for seeing the world. because of her race, allegedly. And one of them was she was in line for ice cream or

6:55 I just think, oh, this person's an asshole. That kind of situation is so normal. It's so normal that some dick cuts in front of you, right? to it. How can you ascribe motives to them? no, no, no, this was my intention, I'll tell you what it was, there's only one person who can answer whether you're a racist person and that's because racist means you hate people of other races

9:14 You can say frat boys are annoying and not hate men. That's the thing. and we go down and we talk to bikers at a biker bar Are they worried about systemic racism? Do they see everything as racist all the time? unconscious bias and we're all, and you're just constantly hearing about it. Much better than the 60s. of the first decade of the 2000s where

12:10 that at least one positive you could draw from that is that, well, at least that means They're worried that we'll look at Obama as president when we started getting all these race hoaxes and the race Stuff that's been there for like 100 years, They were OK with it. ideology. Like when the Taliban started blowing up those ancient statues of Buddhas, do you remember

14:51 And I remember Trump saying at the time, well, the problem with that is like, eventually And that was always, it was always going to go that way because George Washington, the is racist by our standards today, every single one. They might have had issues with how slaves are treated in some context, but it took like friend Willie was talking to me about this and he was saying that what happened was when

17:32 He said he saw a lot more of that on the streets and he said this is probably why he believed America and racial relations in America had changed radically since the 1960s, now it's okay to criticize Jews because of Israel's position in Gaza and what they've and you should judge people, like Martin Luther King said, And pretending that everything is racist just minimizes that and in fact probably makes

20:25 there are real races out there, they're anti-black, they're anti-white racist, but It's absolutely rejected we're going to the system is going to treat everybody equally great we cross It's not a major issue anymore. But then you're going to have others who kind of become exactly what you accuse them of you said just lives in her own bubble and really didn't

23:49 It's just you're a part of this tribe and this is what you believe. You know it's really like a religious thing. and they pray five times a day with it, you know, which is very, strokes the ego. and they invite these other two women, which is what happened to these women. What wife has not said that to their husband? I think my wife is racist. They're terrified of being called racist.

26:42 So it was right after like the George Floyd things popped off. You saying a six year old has to be an anti-racist? that are just terrified of being called out for anything. I remember when my oldest daughter was five, we were at the mall or something and a black family walked by and she pointed at them and said, why are like this was, this would have been an opportunity

28:51 Exactly. It doesn't mean anything anymore. when that's the threat, when being called racist that are really like morally repugnant, great work. a 16 year old kid travels all over the world, A cabana? A day of sunshine? Product availability may vary by region. They love that. telling them what to do anymore, these things. they don't think it's as bad as bullying,

33:00 that one of the things that woke does, are human beings who are communicating with each other. count doesn't mean I'm a bad person because it's not real life. Which is like that's like And I also think it ramps up anxiety in a huge way for the people that are actually engaging unusual position to be in where all day long you're in conflict. That's only war. In the real world,

35:29 people are willing to accept propaganda because it feeds into their view of the world, which But I then I have my excuse which is as part of my job. if I go on vacation or something and I'm taking time, But I have to reignite this weird compulsion What'd they do? gold in there like oh I got one and then I put that in my notes and I justify I mean, I would for sure still be paying attention

38:03 I would like to absorb all that interesting information, but I wouldn't feel the need to say, hey world, here's Ecosystem with these people you don't even know they might be all stupid They don't care that much. That's one of the things that makes it so toxic And that's really horrible what it does. And a second later, you're reading something about whatever,

40:35 I mean, you're the product of what you take in, even if that information is like low impact. for the rest of your life. And by the end of the day, you're just like, and and talking about their life and their family and all kinds of crazy shit like this is actually this person hates me like this could be a real bad You never do that? It's not good for you.

43:28 And a lot of it is really out of line. I'm used to it. But at the same time, it should. well it's also who knows who's doing it and at this point in time we have to most certainly do this in other countries. Why wouldn't you have a million accounts? or things to say about conservatives or things to say about liberals and you put a fucking And then you get online and you see all this hateful shit, or you might get on a MAGA forum

47:30 Because it's available and I don't know how to stop it. I think the only way for you to not personally But the problem is, even if it's fake, people are so stupid that even if it's a fake That's what I'm saying. Which isn't... and then it becomes a real thing. more fascinated by the like 80% of people who,% of the of the flat earth crowd 80% together to hide the true shape of the earth, because if we really knew the earth is flat,

50:38 I used to believe in the moon landing. the main thing is what you just said about the earth. governments who at this point certainly would know we faked it, and for some reason haven't It's hostile beyond belief. no one else figured out how to do it, but the Apollo astronauts. And we did it seven times, six successfully, from 1969 to 1972. They're gonna know everything.

53:54 And we did it, and we have never done it since. Well, I think that's because we lost the spirit and hunger for discovery. Sure you could. There's no evidence, because saying that it was a hoax is an assertion of a, it's not, and came back and told us, there's footage, And there's a couple problems with those. where they got the most high-resolution photos of the lander?

56:53 But we also have those on earth. In fact, we're von Braun in Apollo 12 image astronaut boots tracks are still even visible due to the recent interest in another post I'm not saying we didn't go to the moon. What I'm saying is the subject is complex, and it's not And it showed different images from, I think it was a Chinese satellite of the moon. I don't think so.

59:23 moon walks, or not moon walks, space walkss outside of a where they're connected by a tether and If you remember, this is where he tried to get those from, which is Russian video. Could be. To even just like be in the vastness of space, even on the space station, I can't, I feel like that differences and these stupid lines and the dirt that we draw when we are like

1:02:04 There is no evidence at all, not one sliver of evidence ever, of that hoax having ever And is there evidence that he didn't act alone? Same exact perspective. Between us and Russia this this space war for superiority But if we're going to assert that a major hey, I was involved in the shoot or I'm in Hollywood, That stuff's missing. So here's the question.

1:05:35 But according to Bart Zabrell, they didn't go that way because he would have had to launch that happened 60 67 maybe was Starfish Prime. But it did the opposite effect. They're like 200 people on his on his on the set got cancer starfish prime high altitude nuclear test about this the other day it cooked a few satellites okay so can I ask this though

1:08:12 to? If the only time they did it was Do you know how much fucking resources there is on the moon? You don't think that they would do that fucking freezing cold out. technological progression. We have that with everything else. and people will be living on the moon. Yeah. 50, 60 years. That's nuts. It doesn't necessarily, not every facet of technology is going to continue at that pace forever into infinity.

1:12:51 there's a reason to go back, I agree, you know, practically speaking, but it's just I see what you're saying. No one talks about it. which they shouldn't be. we are gonna increase the overall way of life for every single human being on America's rich too but it's going to change the quality of life for every person in this country and this is how we're going to do it

1:15:41 is instead of the actual binary data that shows the People were fucking terrified. that was above and beyond their need to yap about shit. This is the real question. And Bart Sibrel, the guy who made this documentary, but how far did they go? This is the real question and Bart this? Well he has a bunch of different things and one of them is the one that's like very hotly

1:18:16 He has this other video of what looks like them light? Why does it look exactly like they're in near-earth orbit? It's one of the most fun of all conspiracy theories, because if they did it, wow. It's not as simple as the earth is flat. me it's in the vein of like Sandy Hook was a hoax. for um proof I know I'm trying to I'm digging through I pick a video I try to

1:21:08 But the thing is, you can go back in history and you can look at, for the sake of discovery going to plate, having no modern technology at all, in launching out of France or Portugal or wherever, now easily. So anybody can get in a ship right now and travel. You can get a small boat that today. And sextants are, if you actually use them correctly and you understand which way the tides go

1:23:38 And then people started coming to America and then ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. have today. The technology they were using was not that different. It was pretty similar. It didn't it didn't progress that fast Why is that we're not watching the movie all right so let's do this Have given responses to it So to me, I listen to that and I think, well, that's interesting.

1:26:46 The crescent insert, why would they fake any of it? I'm saying they most certainly are manipulating you in that video. That video is not just the music. The music... Do, do, do... Right, so you're saying they are manipulating you with the video. I'm saying they most certainly are manipulating you in that video. have to block off the light from all those other windows, because even though

1:28:01 and the blue from the Earth's oceans, like when you see it from the Space You just don't know. have the engineers put this thing together and you launch this thing mouth shut. You could. I would just need, I would need some kind of solid evidence They're just kind of like fanciful projections. And the ones that I don't find convincing are longer because there's no gravity. So there's an explanation for that. But if you're the conspiracy

1:31:41 Okay, are we saying that wouldn't happen on the moon? Everything you're saying is entirely reasonable It's not just the one where the guy's hopping by the flag. It's other ones where it looks It looks different. You'd have to put it aside. We definitely have played it before but if you take a look that's what's popping up Okay, so watch so he's gonna hop by

1:34:37 So he's in front. Let's look at it in slow motion. look weird and it's just not it's not it's not one thing. If that was the only there's no internet, right? So you show it on television once. You get to choose me open to it. One thing that would shake my faith considerably in the moon landing, And he hasn't said that, so I also find that to be pretty compelling, the fact that he,

1:37:29 if he believes it, that would be a big risk with zero reward, because there's no way to beings have ever known like what they're doing with those Falcons when they have If they go to the moon and there's no problem going through the Van It's gonna happen again in response to this conversation. I'm against you. Yeah So people are, I mean, that was kind of the point of your bit, that people are, once you

1:39:45 one of our greatest achievements as Americans. Sure. You gotta pry that from my cold dead people are freaking out. I don't think she has that anymore. I don't think people are... off a teleprompter and maybe that thing in her ear. Somebody sent me something But also if they pulled that off with earrings like fucking amazing. It might have been a troll.

1:43:16 He's not going to listen. bit challenging though, as orange does not go well with a lot of colors. How crazy is the conspiracy theory So if it hits a railing which apparently there is some shot It's a foreheads heal quick ears heal quick things around your mouth heal pretty quick. It's foreheads heal quick, ears heal quick, things around your mouth heal really quick.

1:45:24 But if you he didn't, it doesn't make a difference. And we've moved on like it never happened. Yeah, full of shit. There's also this bizarre thing where there's, you know how they get ad data where you can You're trying to shoot something or you're using it for golf. If you're not This is one where I'm totally open to conspiracy theories, only because there's not even like an official narrative.

1:48:54 do you get this? Let's talk to all the people that are on his cell phone, Crazy kid who shoots the president and that's it. Anyone that looks vaguely suspicious It's not like they've come up with some explanation where you could go, okay, well, now I can heal. this guy was almost killed two days ago should be like the centerpiece of this thing. I mean,

1:51:52 YouTube and it's just like, you're not, you're, you are not showing us how serious this thing And I think he's got this ability because so many people have hated him for so long I don't know why people say, no, no, no, but there's just saying that it never aired. Yeah. So this was, of course, after he'd already announced. for every other candidate because this

1:54:50 And I think a lot of it is, it's like this, they're projecting because they realize that that they're temporary. results, if you manipulate just the fill-in, you know, the suggestions, is Matt Walsh A, and then And one of the things that happened was after Trump won in 2016, there was some sort of blue no matter who, result of the election and you don't give a fuck about debate and free speech

1:57:33 Of course, the idea that you have to prevent people They don't know. that I was telling you about before, They talk about it like they talk about our team and they're connected to all these other and then just understand nuance but his supporters are too, he said. And they went on about how terrible his supporters Mitt Romney and Barack Obama debated? It was the most cordial, professional, respectful discussion

2:00:20 Sure. You can't be yelling out, oh baby girl, like, congresswoman, this is crazy. via Breitbart in 2016. values. So scroll up. What else does he say? Well, that's bias right there saying that most of us are upset, right? it doesn't happen again. Right. I couldn't find that quote. I watched a Trump and that they act like it's the future of the planet hangs in the balance.

2:03:19 Then he's out of office, So they can just reverse it the second that he leaves. into office that if he got into office he would weaponize the judicial system and go And then she tries to push back against it, and he does a brilliant job of explaining find it if you just give me a second. That Trump is going to weaponize the- Every time I type it in, all I see is stuff about Trump saying he would use.

2:06:03 He could have done that to Hillary. Yeah, probably when you think about what he actually did when he was in office. Statute of limitations. But I know I do. They recognize it, they have it right in front of them, and they're willing to believe it it and the way he combats it is so interesting to see her squirm because yeah, that's exactly they say, well, if Trump doesn't win, he's going to jail. And so he's got a lot on the

2:10:02 There's certainly a real thirst for vengeance how much different is his take on it now? Because one of the What is the resistance like? of what it's like to be the actual president. once you're sitting there because you realize that you're overseeing this just gigantic There's no chance that you're not gonna be undermined by somebody like that Which is unfortunate because that is actually,

2:13:13 I'd love to see him just, I got nothing to lose now. They're going to put me in jail Because one of the things that has been discussed is cracking down on misinformation and that what it means to be able to freely express ideas and misinformation isn't but in the case when there's something that is It's childish. You know, like I had Terrence Howard.

2:16:09 podcast had this idea. I go, Oh, wow, maybe he's right about all these things. Anybody has a better understanding of all these different really weird complex things you can't threaten to kill somebody, because yeah, there's certain kinds of speech That's a crazy position for the left to take. Hate speech and misinformation doesn't count. But it's also a really goofy label that you can slap on basically anything right like hate speech can get to the point where if you

2:19:36 or at least it puts the people in power and position One of the main people preserving free speech historically ever. It's like, dude, your rockets don't blow up because you don't build them. I mean, they have a lot of them blow up. to do stuff, do important things. if that's what Stephen King wants to do today, let him go. Who cares? You know, it's interesting

2:22:30 and especially through the use of social media, of the weird nuances of human thinking. Because that's genuinely what this whole thing is all But most people don't use it the right way and also you have to use it the right way and you can this is also But as they get into like the high school ages, like, I think it's a new world. don't want them to be 18 and it's their first time ever holding a cell phone

2:24:37 Oh, yeah. years from now the same way we look at people smoking. when they're 10 years old? Oh my God, it was crazy. under my dad's mattress or whatever not saying it's not at all the same I mean Oh. Like these certain chimps that get older, they give them iPads, they give them phones, and they show them you know It's a cool object. we take the tablets away, you don't get them anymore.

2:27:56 really quickly. Yeah, it's weird. And the addictions to phones, which we all have, then Like, where do you live? People ask, is that all real or did we stay? And there's this woman, Brasha Wade, I think is her name, At some point midway through, they started, And you can't shed white tears around black people because white tears are manipulative. And I guess while I was gone they, yeah, they

2:30:56 Professional cuddler actually we didn't it's not in the movie, but we just know that about them We thought about, They go to events like this and they're very, when you think about being white? It's a sickness. And so I thought I'd bring the whips out and everybody would leave. And so then that would my my racist uncle and well you got you got to watch it but you got to watch it yeah that

2:33:51 But you do a great job. You're in this environment with these insane people. Yeah, it's like it's like exhausting, you know listening to this Obviously if we weren't, if the cameras weren't rolling, They're not going to tell you what they really believe. different mode and they go into this kind of HR DEI mode where it's Which with What is a Woman, all that required was just kind of being a blank slate and asking

2:36:40 There's just an edge, just a touch of it, you mansplained her, you corrected her. She did, but the thing is she did kind of, and I think you can see it on camera, in the who doesn't already agree with her about everything, So most of the people in the movie And they know that. Right, right. You can get tickets at mrracist.com. Nice. So we're trying to get it out to make it available