Joe Rogan Experience #2209 — Paul Rosolie Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. out of nerves. It's good to see you again. Until the mission's complete. I didn't understand these things could happen. I mean first of all just coming over here, And I'm like, oh shit, that's new for me. But we both covered ourselves in bug spray And then- the first day that he was, I was like, and then we drove five hours,

3:30 Yeah, fuck all that, I've seen those roads. I was like, look, the car drive, bring somebody to the jungle, the thing is you don't know, some people take to it, some He wasn't fucking around. I wanna do what you guys do. So we're ready like to if you take a boat from town His whole head and neck gets surrounded by wasps. There's no water. How do you find water?

6:37 up and down, up and down. And so that's why we're sweating all day. We can't, we didn't You're worried about twisting an ankle. Completely delirious, and so we're- You get tangled up in vines. And I see this tree, this huge tree, the size of this room. trees, no one's been there. It's not even signs of uncontacted tribes. This is a and the sand makes like those geometric ripples

8:58 But that, what that was doing though, Do you have a pump? Cause I do everything with the local guys and they were just like, oh, it'll be fine. And I was like, please don't drink it. to the outside world. and you get that feeling like this is out there. steps and all of a sudden everything changed We came out onto a road and it's a logging road. We used the road, we hiked out, we reached water.

11:35 corridor with jungle keepers, now we know that some of the most ancient forests on And it hadn't really occurred to me they could just sell it off. We put it up on Instagram. We raised $150,000 in 48 hours, talked to the loggers, They said, yeah, can we just be rangers? The local people in the Amazon rainforest and now we're able to get those wins.

14:03 So we're one third of the way through the goal. Uh, commitment. Well, that sounds like you cannot fuck around Dude, just just fuck you man. What how do you find water? You just stumble upon it? You know sunscreen and bug spray I don't care, freak out. You know how do I get your job? Really? But then you go trout fishing and deer hunting. oh, this is my lunch today, everybody's like, oh, that's healthy. Salmon. Yeah, but if you have a plate of salmon, you know, like, oh, this is my lunch today, everybody's like,

17:38 I mean, it's very weird. You the comments on this the vegans went crazy people like I'm unfollowing you that's disgusting They'd be horrified at industrial pesticides and herbicides and all the shit that we put in the soil and how you know how many? You cut down an ecosystem in trees You know what that is? No. that's applied to fruits and Dude, it's like the size of this cigar box.

20:46 and then rinse it off. Most people are just gonna eat the apple. Scrub your apples video what the fuck are you talking about? So this is different though. This is wax. Yeah, this is that's carton uber wax That's like normal, but appeal is a new product and it's one of those. Yeah. Okay. Let's see what this lady has to talk It all depends on how the fats were extracted and how the chemical compound

23:17 Oh yeah. Because the super bright color thing yeah, yeah, those are toxic dyes, and we allow them this stuff through, and it's kind of like, He puts on weight. Yes, and those Chamath. Yeah. Yeah, that was a great one understanding of how bad the stuff really is for you and then experimenting with diet and watching how much better my body felt and Pasta and breads really hit home.

26:12 So did Gary Brekka. And then on top of that, the big one may be, there's a lot of speculation about this, but Roundup. That's 87% of children. And it's also fairly new in terms of human history. And so when you're dealing with short-term stuff, like stuff that's only been around That's what I read. But it's fucking terrible for you, terrible. before they figured it out. Shane Gillis has a great joke about George Washington

29:34 So it's coming from water pipes. water from the tap, all that stuff is getting you plastic. switched these steel cups here we used to just go through so many bottles of But the problem is now that's been attached to right-wing ideology. So people are just labeling that So I mean, like you've naturally progressed towards going, You know, food safety,

32:23 to do something about it now it's just It's really scary when you think that this, They know people you go to restaurants Yeah, my thing is, the worst thing that I've done recently I take a picture of everything. are trying to capture the most. Iran is launching hundreds of missiles at Israel and there was a mass shooting, some sort of a But this video, it also shows that the Iron Dome, Israel's famous missile defense system,

35:23 And the Iron Dome is basically a system to shoot them out of the sky? many missiles they have to do this I mean you'd have to have fucking Well, fortunately, because that's why we're still here, but unfortunately, we get accustomed And that's an example of what you're saying about seeing these images all the time. like when I start opening my phone, I remember this.

37:39 And I have become a person that really shields myself and then you're like, all right, well, cool, So I guess that, that was the thing that we're saying that the Iron Dome, when they know The air defense system detects and intercepts threats all the time. So some dudes just gunning people down. There's no civilians like everyone is at least a former soldier. You got to be ready, right?

40:47 Yeah, and she probably knows how to shoot it. I mean, this is something that's very different. or were in Europe, and so World War II We grow up safe. You know, you have Pearl Harbor, which is kind of America. Like, we are so used to being safe. Great Wall of China, they didn't want to go the long way around the wall, so they broke Yeah. Chinese construction workers accused of plowing a hole through the Great Wall

43:59 Yeah, people are gross, people are gross, we're moments away from disaster in any given capacity, to launch missiles at Israel. but I think it's unfortunately true, construction and progress and doing things correct and He got this farm, it's a family-owned farm, they've had it forever, and it took him years Look at that. And so when the rain comes,

47:28 That's not Will. You should be in trouble for this, right? No, no, Putin is like, this is bullshit. Yes. Commoditizing hemp. The LD50 of marijuana is nuts. and it hits you in the head. has been proven to cause schizophrenic breaks in people. harvested trees being used for paper manufacture. renewable, that's actually renewable. It's light like balsa wood, but it's hard.

51:19 But you can also grow strains of it and quickly. Like you grab it, and I've had one, Crazy, it's weird. And it showed a decorticator to them. That looks like a modern one. Completely unnecessary and it's because a paper guy wanted 100% and a paper guy in the 1930s And so he got together with Harry Anslinger and they utilized all these people that they were using to make

54:34 all over the country for alcohol, and raping white women. It's the best fucking thing we can grow for paper which is 40% of all the Double the size. Yes, and then he has this picture with the tree after and it's a fucking heart. It's a horrible It's on the way go and you know, California the earth tends to shake a little bit Maybe ever who knows some of these trees are one thousand two hundred years old

58:05 And it's older than Stonehenge, and it's just on the street in front of this dude's house What whoa? It's like, you know like six feet tall and like super right all fucked up area there's a lot of just guessing there's a lot of just guessing. There's a lot of just guessing. But I'm curious what the oldest tree period is. Great patient hundred years doesn't say where's bristle cone

1:00:52 California. Doesn't have a single fucking leaf. So how old is that one? That one's alive. I'm curious about the Sequoia's but this is interesting Jamie because this is I guess that other websites incorrect because the other website was saying the whole country is like the size of Austin something about the oldest in that had fallen over. I mean the

1:03:17 You know when I see that little ratty little fucking bush in the desert like that's not the old you live bitch The Denisovans. Until like the 1800s like when did they discover gorillas? I? Called Billy and Billy has this unusual strain of chimpanzees that have a crest on their head like a gorilla It's a really controversial thing like some people think that it's just an unusual group of chimpanzees like

1:06:23 But they're fucking huge man. There's a guy named Carl Armand Well, it's it's a novel tissue though, right? So it's a new thing And that's how they get over everything. They you know they fight over fruit Chimp Chimp Nation is the is the Netflix Netflix document fucking amazing or whatever, their whole life they've been around So because of that, they've got this insane footage.

1:09:01 That's their favorite thing to do. It is terrifying. That's a big part of this this docu-series interesting is how they set up those social structures well See do you have any see if you can find a photograph of that Bondo ape yes, please I need again very country Yeah, well see if the fire find the camera trap photo scroll down a little bit Yeah, right there.

1:12:22 chimpanzees. See how the- see that ridge. Because it's so remote. And the lion killers, first of all, Or a leopard, rather. Yeah, so your weight but the strength of a 500 pound man now imagine now imagine one Hmm, but you have to think like okay these guys like that first of all they're in the background Google humanzy, cause humanzy was a weird one.

1:15:33 right there to the left of that, yeah, right there where you're at is good too. his name is Oliver, And they're fine, He's like, I'll fuck you, lady. I'm not I'm serious not Chimp Nation Chimp crazy Chimp crazy is all about these people that are like the tiger king people I think they're just showing that it's him. And then they start raising them in captivity in America and some places like Wyoming. It's legal

1:17:49 invited me to his place. we do all the photography, all the Amazon Fire stuff So what they do is they have people sit in a circle, Oh no. but they have an incinerator on site I was doing something and the girl walks by with a liger. Well, it's a weird hybrid because I think it's, is it a male tiger and a female lion tiger one of them there's this gene that regulates how big you get and it doesn't

1:20:32 So this one says it got to Oh my god value the Kings animal sanctuary in Wisconsin had a male liger named Nook who weighed over 1,213 pounds. Those are my guesses. That's what's crazy, that it's a cat that lives in the snow. good lord good lord that paw oh my god yeah and just it's crazy that it's such a gorgeous why the hell would you be orange and white and black?

1:22:43 They do it so that you don't get shot by hunters We're seeing you know your phone seeing writing And it's easy to see it for us. I have a guy on my team, Stefan, he figured this out. And so we're getting now, we haven't published this yet, You'd probably find them. You have all these things that are run by China It's like blood diamond. like this ain't like the fucking Pacific Northwest

1:26:11 I always have a week, but you know, And if you wanna really find them, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Donnie Vincent? Trekking poles are a must. But you have to preserve the meat, to get all the meat out, because you physically brought them to this meat processing place that makes you let's just I don't think they are but let's say they are yeah I don't think Atrophying yeah because his nerves are getting pinched because his fucking discs are all bulged out and fucked up

1:29:33 When I was hunting, it was hailing. We packed it out that day I'm doing sprints on the air dime machine they can get away from people and that's in the areas that are hard to get to which is But so that that helped a lot because if it was just me and my friend Colton who was my guide it would have probably It's a lot more ground work, So we're packing out, that's all the elk quarters

1:32:17 if you're out there by yourself and you're 30 miles in, But that's the kind of hunting that I do is the easiest kind of hunting as far as that goes. The people like my friend Adam told me he went 23 miles into the forest once and he's like no one's gonna be any found and you're like, because there's wolves, That's not real. but that's the world economic forum. But what I think is with animals, at least we understand,

1:34:33 They kill off a giant percentage of the calves, they kill off domestic animals, they do surplus or they can't get away, if they got them cornered, I hope they do it right. I was reading that book on an expedition and I was like like we're raised to be so sensitive and so considerate And like she was kidnapped and I think she had a baby that they killed and

1:36:55 because they're riding horses so much. and the craziest thing is what our government did. And it's like, holy shit. And if it wasn't for Jack Hayes and the Texas Rangers Wow, yeah, oh fuck you up. Fuck you up So then these cartridges, and they could just pop the cartridge out, They're like, why do we need this? We don't need this. But the Texas Rangers used it.

1:39:33 I think it was like a period of like- has been so poorly documented in movies. exactly what happened to people in the Amazon. It's disease. That's the lost city of Z. Right? No? Yeah, there's, there's, uh, I did an expedition in right before Lex came, we did an expedition in March and me and JJ went to the back. to a smaller flight to a smaller flight,

1:42:05 What's that way and they tell you and the scariest thing and this was one of the worst things I've ever seen in my life Yes, you get to the real, and as soon as you look at them, they hide. And there'd be arrows flying by them. Oh my god. So had they solved that problem. They funded the missionaries And they just fucking hope. It was dark shit. They're clearing the way.

1:44:20 And the guy was like, I'm trying to go back to my house, like where I live in my house, like three days of driving in a boat. So like 70 miles by river. Oh my God. And so these poor It's that manifest destiny. It was terrifying. I felt so bad for them because they had no, I didn't get that but they were they were And these, it was just, it was really horrible to see

1:46:57 And these people, how could they know Because people because humans are humans and so right no one wants to help them Really? is a bunch of uncontacted tribes standing in the rain. This is wild. It doesn't look like someone from now. Yeah. And these are essentially some of the last people on Earth like this. It's insane, man. This is incredible. they're trying to carefully interact

1:49:37 So you can't really, you can't just go up to them and be like, hey man, what's up? or, you know, the modern world have seen a dollar before, they don't get scratched up they time up they so if you look at this dude here Oh a much worse thing is when you take a shit in the jungle. Oh bunch of things you got to do first you got to break your stick right so you

1:51:37 and one dung beetle hit my friend Mohsen in the eyeball, because they're gonna take it you could end up in a lot of trouble. and you see these people, And we went on a, it took us a week to get to the launch 100% going back. I mean, you have to you for the for everyone's there's no there's absolutely The loggers were, from the look of the, Wow. They don't show you anything.

1:54:07 I gotta show you some of the pictures. and they blew up and became white so they looked like the Michelin Man. because people will send you a video. and I was like, that's fucking horrible. and this elephant just decides that today ain't his day. yeah, it says elephant dead. Give it all to me. Show me the arrows and the guys So at this point But that elephant's probably tired of wearing that fucking stupid outfit too. Tired of getting poked at with a stick. Yep.

1:57:45 growing things and the elephants find it they just like sorry it's ours now They don't give a shit can't say can't say my favorite elephant story from your so I started doing work with this their elephants and rhinos. 11 elephants that were still alive and so they went to the South African court and came off the trucks, and now they're in a private

1:59:35 and one of the females was pregnant, South Africa, everything's fenced in, but the elephants and the rhinos, and you're keeping, they have like 50,000 acres. That's pretty dope. all the time. whether you make them a commodity for hunting them. But that they've bred them in Texas. Yeah, they've bred some there's more tigers in Texas So they have canned foods and so they brought them hundreds of pounds of meat that they

2:02:38 irrigation and give them fresh water and and But gold mining in Alaska, probably pretty fun. It's about this crazy soldier who becomes a gold miner, I can't, man. I bet you can. It rules No, what's that? Oh my God. She gets an email from someone, she's like, about how we made our national park. Those guys who do that are different humans. I mean you're talking about a 70 foot wave.

2:06:02 They have like a jet ski rescue system and you gotta grab on before the next wave comes. And the whole time, they're just showing you It's like, I feel like I can relate. Soterios Johnson Do you ever meet those dudes? Soterios Johnson Yeah, it's fascinating how calm they are. you just look at him he's built like an action figure he's he's always been

2:07:55 You know, or, you know, Elon's like, I want to go to Mars. And snowboarding's chiller. I'm like, I am going to die. Well, I that yeah head first right out Yeah Shane Dorian yeah, yeah, and he's a certain house. Yeah awesome server Yeah, big wave server, and so you know how to get his knee reconstructed as soon as he got fixed right back to snowboard

2:10:03 I think that when you get interested in something, There's things that human beings find And there's a lot of people, that's the great Thoreau quote, most men live lives of silent It's all bullshit and you can exist on bad information, I don't have access to that. what if he never did decide to get fit? And then all of a sudden he gets on that path

2:13:17 where they go I can't do this anymore and sometimes it's just like an And he just had to, his whole life, he was a drunk. Like sometimes, you walk into a jujitsu gym, It could be playing chess. You don't want to do it every day if you're a guy who runs marathons thing that to me what I see is so many people going you know especially like at And I mean not full-time, but I'm saying he could he could do something you could do something

2:16:22 And then you have confidence and intelligence, they don't have meaning. where a guy only has a billion dollars, do that I could tell you as a person who grew up poor yeah one of things that But if you're doing something you enjoy doing, And I also can keep making a lot of money. You know what I mean? Like people do you know now? I need 30 more you need more because you got a mortgage

2:19:33 like fucking for the rainforest now like you need you need to get into the NFT market. So like I almost got got by the NFT people So I can take a screenshot and I have it on my phone too. No, but you don't own it. What was the apes? Gigachat? Does it know? like a shit cartoon and how much did they go for? Yeah, but you don't understand what I just said earlier.

2:22:55 Right. But there's a big difference between owning the Mona Lisa on your phone. So like But the thing is you can replicate- waste any because I was getting stuff when it was you're gonna get a chief or whatever, But the thing is, the real ones, They're they're fucking amazing because these are like little windows into a time in history that was not that long ago

2:25:01 If you're making a recurve bow now,ve bow, now you're talking even crazier. it's like, this is such a process. you're shitting with the dung beetles It's like those rods the yeah, they're all right exactly That's the problem. and make a fire over that but what we do, we bring these big propane tanks and just throw it on the boat, and if you can't bring that then nothing,

2:27:28 and then have it shipped down or whatever else. That makes sense. Turn it off this the thing about this is it me and my friend Mohsen and him, Do you become accustomed to the bug bites? So your body doesn't react to it anymore. I was, like, doing something with people. Wow. So they just keep fucking you up. Don't let this happen. Just take care of yourself. Please stop. You've done so much. Yeah he's so

2:30:12 I always wanted to ask about that Sure, let me hear some volume I was like out. Oh. You're out there doing chin ups and they're like, Crazy fucker. and you play bullet ant roulette. Excitement of wondering who it's gonna hit is fun. Somebody painted it. And you can just go to sleep after that causes waves of pain for up to 12 hours after a single sting

2:33:21 Yeah, those kids have grown up being stung. So JJ said he didn't have shoes until he was 13 so he grew up walking through the They must much more custom Like, I could get bitten by a bullet ant right now Or is it your pain threshold, has it lowered If I lay down, I'm in more pain. So now a wasp sting to me like I'll just catch a wasp now cuz like I was like you know like I come home

2:35:46 Ancestry evolved around being in pain all the time. "'There's gonna be ice on the water.'" Oh boy. I mean, it's so, it's like, I mean, But so to me, I look at Nolan, I go, Yeah, is and it's also there's a thing about being a badass putting that wetsuit on well and you're looking at your wetsuit, you're warm, That's not that hard. but then I always finish on the cold.

2:38:16 It's three minutes. I don't want to do it, but I tell myself shut the fuck up pussy pick up the lid It doesn't make any sense like yeah, how did you go backwards the old one you go into cold water nothing happens So if you're swimming and you're diving and you're in cold water, shuts off. Yeah, so apparently they think they could fix it The message board say it's a software issue

2:41:27 You didn't have to sell it yesterday. That's a wolf tooth. And I always use a thing called Onyx Hunt as and onX hunt is a software app you download maps for the It's not so if you're out in the woods and you don't have a flashlight It is. I'm gonna start bringing people on all kinds of shit. but I wanna take people like I could literally. Put on your backpack. I could put it on my jungle. Yeah, well hopefully there's no roads, but I wanna take people, like I could literally.

2:43:56 like if we go, look, we're gonna be going Or now, so we, a few weeks ago, and you know, like when you have your people Like absolutely hysterical people just about the anacond the anacondas? About everything we talked about. Some of them were really funny. And we go jump on a snake with a head this big. in the areas that it is. I got, I got kind of like, I was writing something and I said something about these Stone Age warriors, what this guy must have

2:46:51 that you come into that problem hey, don't say that. like the devil wears Prada, like Meryl Streep. And I was like, I was thinking I was gonna get like a million dollar talking to this publisher. The publisher got back and went, They vetted you. Like, I don't know, like Joe could do it, I didn't know this. firmly believe there's manufactured outrage that's done in a very directed manner.

2:49:54 But you're also going to have many more good things too. So that's when he became very dangerous to them. now, what they've done with these Starlink things that we were talking about. Fascinating, you want some coffee? to pretend to not like him right exactly. Exactly. To align with their worldview. Now that that was really creepy because you know I mean I live in the jungle, but like I hear about all this stuff

2:53:18 They wouldn't have cared. my friend Connor sent me a clip where you were telling one of your guests about person, which I'm not at all. I think that- and there's a lot of fuckery going on, Super cordial. for the rest of the world, and we're not doing all this crazy shit, or a left wing issue, it's a human health issue. Philanthropy that's good. Yeah a lot of it a lot of it, but then there's also a lot of philanthropy

2:56:38 like big paychecks. we're kind of riding this wave right now, Not to mention that then people like Dax De Silva I got approached by those dudes at Vivo Barefoot, Those Barefoot hiking boots are legit, the ones they make. Are you sustainable? Let My People Go Surfing with a guy who started Patagonia. And so it's like I just I just think that that as people I got really scared when I got booked

2:59:05 It's like the commenters on Instagram, unfortunately. Done this analysis are positive versus negative. I would have to say it's probably at least 5050 Yeah, he's awesome. yeah, you're one of the good guys. They're very damaged human beings like you're people that attack people all the time I'll tell you, one of the conversations I heard recently He went, that is, he goes, I 100% disagree with you.

3:01:35 I watched it like it was a podcast from young kids and high school students Yeah. But the point was though that they were able to completely disagree and go I completely fucking disagree with you They'll do bad faith arguments. You see it on podcasts all the time where you pretend you're right about something I was wrong. You are not your ideas the way they want people to think of them.

3:04:13 So when you do this thing, thing that they do to let everyone know that they're on the team it's a very don't you know he's the devil? People have like a place in their mind for religion. You need something that's bigger than logic bigger than all of us and people will apply those things Fuck the Oscars. Yeah, I get it to celebrate what it's also gross

3:07:02 Yes. This is not my thing. Mind you guys are all in a cult like no, but that's what I mean about it He just got slapped. I thought he did an incredibly classy job of just being like well You gotta be in the club. and they took him out? And it was the whole thing was a fucking mess the guy ran onto the stage He's transphobic. He's transphobic jokes are transphobia but words are violence no that's not well

3:10:29 and Dave Chappelle's a transphobe. And if you say there's a thing that you can't make fun of, I was like, let me just do something. we had to stop watching it That was great and then it was Segura doing The thing is comedy is comedy. It's just like a movie like you go to a Quentin Tarantino movie. None of those people really died. Okay, this is just art

3:12:58 Most people miss old, you don't get a good comedy You look at movies from the 70s, they're fucking brutal. when the bear Jew comes out of the cave and the guy is the Yeah, man, and now I watch movies and I'm like dude come on. Crazy. Because Anthony Hopkins is 10 feet Look at fucking Anthony Hopkins the best. How does he live in this? How's that even possible cuz they just tear you apart

3:15:53 That's based on a real story. Yeah, yeah, that's based on a guy See if they filmed the Revenant in BC. I think it's BC because it just is way more dense than the Great Plains No. Like, isn't there a way to do it? the Did any of this really happen? No. Okay, so the Cana... Cana-Nascus country It's a big old brown used to be brown bears. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, they they fucking killed all of them

3:19:12 Did you ever see that do you ever see the video where the guy where the bear takes the guy's face off? That was like early days of internet gross shit. Really? Yeah for Chan. I don't think I've ever been on reddit. You should go. Yeah and there's no censorship. Like, I want that. Yeah, so there'd kind of be like a comedic punchline to hearing him go,

3:21:32 He was tiger king times a hundred So I would creep up on them. I'd get into position and I'd watch them come out I wanted to do it so bad, Yeah, I don't and coyotes. I don't even need to have code as its pets. They're like behind in the Hudson Valley Look at that. I think it's like from the 1950s on, they've spread across the entire country. In the jungle, I was working with this British filmmaker

3:24:09 We have red brocket deer, gray brocket deer. They come in from the Andes, and they have like an island He was a real wildlife guy. So he came back and he was like, That's crazy. the different DNA in the water. That and the thylacine are the only cryptids that I'll entertain conversations about. and be in Barcelona in a few hours. and you look at a winding little golden river

3:26:51 in your peripheral vision over there. When you're on the plains, the animals are at eye level. You're only gonna see the tree tops if you do. yeah, everything's been explored. That's why I have to touch the wet paint, It's a lot of fun. We're supporting the indigenous conservation efforts. We're crossing 100, junglekeepers.org. We are bringing people to the rainforest. We're supporting the indigenous conservation efforts.

3:28:39 at that place, Buffalo Clouffe, you came in and told everybody about it. All right.