Joe Rogan Experience #221 — Shane Smith Transcript

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0:00 the Joe Rogan experience It's a bad time. day because the limos had their wallets Well, the car drivers were nice. The music was good. He's quite a personality. Yeah. The last time Barboza was in the ring was in Brazil There you go. The Cinderella story Which guy was that? James Braddock. I hate when a guy who's that good, like Russell Crowe, gets stuck in a movie like that.

3:51 Yeah. best seats are not the most such a steep penalty on your body yeah i love getting drunk yeah you know i mean i'm really Right. probably not i probably would be fine but it felt like i was buzzed still from last night damn dude about whiskey. The walls have ears, sir. That's the kind of stuff you like? I thought the smooth stuff was the stuff that was really old and super expensive.

7:11 Right. Really? None of it's good. who actually were caught before they could ignite their vests. Whoa. Wow. I mean, that's the best way to describe it? That's fucking scary shit, man. So he's got like, you know, 20 or 30 guys in the courtyard all sort of, you know, checking you out. Do they know who let him out and why? I mean, you can buy your way out of jail in Pakistan, buy your way out of jail in Afghanistan, but if you're on the right side of the ISI in Pakistan, which the Taliban are, then you

11:26 And so he, you know, had a lot of, he can get you sort of see anybody in Afghanistan. So how long were you in his presence? how did you do that well you know for example i'd say um you know you were a muhajirin general He said, there's a Pashtun saying, there's a tiger above me and a river below me, i.e., like, I'm screwed if I do and screwed if I don't.

13:12 And they just had the first civilian suicide bomb, in the middle of Kabul for over 24 hours before they could kill these seven dudes. And now our government is negotiating with the Taliban to see exactly how much power they'll have when we leave. well, fine, you know, they're negotiating with them. Wow. Are Americans ever going to say we lost a war?

15:46 lost vietnam you know we pulled out of vietnam it's like whatever we got tired of kicking your So it's going to be back in the exact situation of a civil war with a massive Taliban presence in Afghanistan. It's the exact same shit. exactly. I shouldn't say the United States. I mean, you don't have to take over the whole country. They're trying to tie Iraq with 9-11.

18:05 But they knew that they had to actually go to the place where it was. Do you think that that plays a part in the idea to occupy as well? and says oh we'll trade with you You can do whatever you want to do. Wow. I mean, there's a lot of companies in there. or the ipad and you know there's a plane you know it was like soaring through the air and you can

20:40 This is the 21st century to blow our shit up where the september 11th attacks occurred right right? For sure. I mean, it was, you know, incredibly successful. most fucked up places on earth and seeing humanity at its worst what the fuck does that feel like Yeah, well, I mean, the reason why I'm happy is because you're thankful for what you have on this earth yeah seeing the the terrible spots most people are trying to fly into hawaii for the

24:36 you whoa yeah which is fine i mean it's like just saying well you know 15 grand seems pretty were you oh i was with the pirates in mogadishu jesus christ but you don't really think about it and they don't have a history of going after people and kidnapping people. The fish poisoning and people getting poisoned and sick. Those asshole corporations that were dumping their shit off the Somalia coast, they made monsters.

27:04 Portuguese and Spanish fishing companies completely chinese japanese portuguese and spanish fishing companies So the story is that the American government is funding Muslim extremists Well, you know, a lot of people meddle in other people's stuff. One in every three countries with resource-based wealth It's so ironic that at the height of technology, the iPad 3, front-facing camera, HD screen,

30:12 do you look at this sometimes like it's a big work of fiction do you look at life sometimes like this what's the political sort of stance of vice? Cities get bigger. wouldn't have lasted long in doing that And then they have, you know, It's just complete Wild West shit. And it's a huge city. 18 to 20 million. if if no one ever talks about that if they made a movie right now about that part of the world

33:32 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So you said, what does your correspondent look like? guns by hand, like little kids make the guns. And a thousand were going over every day. And we're I've got to see that. There's a increase We were shooting a lot recently in Juarez and in northern Mexico and there they have centenarios that get paid and it's one of the safest cities in America.

36:23 a lot of if you write about something of the world yeah most Americans Oh, really? Most difficult stories to get right now today are cartel stories because they just kill everybody. and fighting against the with the LeBaron's who of that when the narcos attacked them they were sort of armed and ready to go and badasses. and Right. But you say he would veto the DREAM Act because he wants to get away from these stories

40:55 Mitt Romney, is he the official nominee yet on the Republican side? When you see a guy that's that flawed and has such an obvious story that's so beyond fucked, very articulate republicans how come they never get there how come we're dealing with these these I'm like, really? So they said, okay, we'll just put up an also ran and then we'll get the next two terms after that

43:08 that's all out the window. an actual real government especially this idea of america what it was supposed to be Same thing with capitalism, David Ricardo, Adam Smith. In Spain you have, under 27 years old, 50% And young people are getting more and more frustrated. then you're going to look for radical economic solutions and radical economic solutions mean

46:15 and it's going to get worse and worse and worse, fighting other fucking police But Europe is about to fucking explode. I think, Well, because of quantitative easing, course yeah i mean i've said that's the biggest problem with this country is that you know young people are the first ones who are going to get out and get a stick and start bashing shit up. Because why wouldn't they? Of course.

48:33 That's just fucked. Whereas what fucked me up more was when you're in Mexico, like five miles from the border, and shit is fucked up. now, but they had grown up feral, like on the streets, sort of thing, one sort of barked and a lot of them are missing limbs because of you know gangrene and and so when you come from because we like to bury our heads in the sand

51:47 And I was like, oh, that's, you know, strange. Yeah, they sold guns. And that they just pretended that it was a mission. How could they possibly think that that would. this is what we're going to do. The way we're going to track I'm going to have to go get my duck sucked a lot. no one in the american dea going to jail for that i don't know man So he's a very bad guy.

54:51 firefight, but he went back Yeah, Al Rakeem. Or I'll get some cigarettes. And has a firefight with him. Because I know a lot of the drug cartels, they have tanks now. They are at war. But they're in Mexico. This is my home. Get your loved ones together but that's a lost cause, and we were shooting can the human condition evolve so much that we could get everybody on a higher level all across the world?

58:09 the spectrum as broad as humanly possible, and then sort of reduce it to CO2, which you can make. because you could actually put hydrogen cells into, like, every new car. new economy, sort of set us out on this great right track. Europeans and Americans are going to Thailand, you know, over the sort of dead and dying. Yes, they let you die. They let you die? Yeah.

1:01:31 You know what, we're going to get our shit together. You would say, look, it's everywhere. you would you would look at them as a giant huge swarm of life on top of this other life you that mean i don't even know i don't even know but it can't be good it's like what nuclear power We have weapons take that people would go crazy four years from now they'd be fucking so math

1:04:45 shit really is just pushing the society and the society is pushing technology and it's hit by an asteroid billions of years go by the whole deal and then one guy presses a button And hit you with the secret or Eckhart Tolle and you know like do you do you want to like when that whole the secret? That East Coast winter thing is that's bullshit. Yeah.

1:07:09 Yeah, more positive. It really is that. those were the first ones those were all adventuresome but the ones you said okay Just go. Go west. So I'm going to go out, and I'm just going to go out into fucking absolute wilderness where everybody hates me, and the animals want to eat me, And that covered half this country. civilization clear civilization back in a time where they're attributing all that area only

1:10:06 sophisticated civilizations. Look at all the crazy shit that's gone on in this country. whole thing there's one part of the world somewhere in the Middle East I that's not outside the realm of possibility. We're very good at destroying shit, that's for sure. But for some reason, modern day Egyptologists have looked at all this stuff and said, oh, that's a myth.

1:12:34 it just seems really small. space and fucking giant rocks can fall from the sky and crush your country and we've just sort of How many holes are there? i think if that's if we're gonna go that's that's a fucking amazing way to go that's that's gonna That might be a crazy way to do it. What the fuck is going on over there? something else they go just go do it again how do we how do we stop the cycle is it possible

1:15:35 Asteroids coming from mushrooms. This is a legit scientific theory. And the idea is that spores can exist in a vacuum It lives on shit. And we egocentrically have assumed that all intelligence must be contained inside a brain. He's a crazy psychedelic chemist slash botanist slash I think his degrees were all in ethnobotany. Really? but it's based on the idea that a bunch of monkeys ate some mushrooms

1:19:36 Well, that's the sexiest idea. of the human brain size. your brain would just grow. If we just got You think so? I think I'm ready to do it today. Can you explain it? And Africa and Europe here, And instead of trying to be and say what the fuck is going on. You know what really pisses me off? so we have to know about it and then we know about it and then we can do shit like we can

1:24:04 It was a sort of half-assed. James Coney. Did you see the video yeah it to become a huge thing and you know so obviously when weird shit happens to you you have different ways of coping What makes you act gay? then we're really in fucking trouble. Well, it's also when we went around the world they have something that they feel needs to be said, right? They have this desire to send a message, and that comes from seeing things that are wrong,

1:28:02 You don't get permits. They sign things? And I'd been to Beirut like 20 times. yourself you know in in in the place and then just you know press record don't go in with any sort of That's what they call themselves. and cleaning the air and reusing the fuel. know i'm not angry and i want to go get an mba and make money and i said great you know i think that

1:30:40 But the baby boomers, you know, they were the first generation that knew better, done for a little while, I don't think you're going to be able to anymore. creating jobs you know it's not you're creating problems and you cunts that are keep attacking That's got to go away. I would have said the opposite because it was so restrictive And I think that change isn't going to be pretty in a lot of cases

1:33:37 people communicating that unrest. And in fact, if you see that in America, it's growing. And if I was, you know, campaigning this summer, then I would be focusing on, oh, we have a huge fucking groundswell and a global groundswell of dissatisfaction with the only group that's actually going to get off their ass and do something about it. I don't think you cannot go crazy in solitary confinement for five years, I think.

1:34:51 He released things that are, they're war crimes. We don't take any bullshit, but we're not cunts. He's a patriot and he's locked in a box. they were sleeping together and he stuck it in this and a girl. And you're gonna spend that much We want them for this sort of weird, you know, quasi thing that happened in Sweden that wouldn't sexual issue that's not even a violent one not even rape but it's kind of smart actually because

1:37:34 the guy's obviously a cunt that released important information but i think the sad thing about it is if there was some crazy revolution in the future, But my question is, when did it change from journalism and the fourth estate job being to make sure that politicians How far do you take that? And I think that that was one of the sort of turning points,

1:39:56 And you're like, well, but we knew How is it that different than any of these totalitarian regimes And we're supposed to give you that power. We're saying, okay, well, we have to have power sharing with them. And it was the story that we broke in Sudan that time. And look, it's so bad on every level. I mean, America's in there trying to fight this war on

1:42:50 That was like a real social experiment? to go in because it took away all sort of, well, everything except for heroin addiction. Yeah. So, it's it's just flooding out it's destroyed the you know russia has now got seven percent in for why they did that. Well it's because like oxycodone, things along those lines? Except over there. Over there we're What's the craziest slippery war ever?

1:45:30 And all the money. Just in America, it's doubled. can't get it or because it got expensive now because so many people are buying it that they It's so frightening that people would do that to themselves. Well, some of it, yeah. That's insane. Jesus Christ. And they couldn't figure it out until the FARC, the guys who were Colombians who were and we're going to go to the apartment, and then we're going to clean out all your shit,

1:48:56 ultimate date rape drug yeah that's the real shit we gotta make sure people don't get a hold of He said she was a hooker. I'm so terrified of shit like that. Like, what kind of a system, You become a fucking robot. weeks whatever so it's long enough that you sort of get a you know you don't have to go cold turkey Couldn't get off them. Brings people down there to introduce him to Mexico.

1:51:30 Most people don't know. Then they Yeah, my business partner did it, changed his life. It was nuts. I'll send you the piece. It really is. And we were taking her son to Mexico to one of these clinics the strongest drug in the world to Fuck yeah. Continued safety and success in your travels. This week we got tomorrow Mike Dolce, famed MMA nutritionist. He's going to come in. This week, we got tomorrow Mike Dolce, famed MMA nutritionist.

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