Joe Rogan Experience #2212 — Jelly Roll Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Dude, it was so, I was thinking about it pulling up here is that, um, I think y'all just got This is fixing to explode. Yeah, like everything associated with this club everything associated with Tony everything associated with Joe is And you were like, this could be something. They couldn't do any of the other rooms because they didn't have an audience.

2:12 I tell Tony all the time, I say, Tony, I love you. I know some people don't. at Zany's, two shows, one show, you know, So it's this double kinship. Like got great confidence in his ability. Like Ron is a very humble guy as successful as he is but that humility that he is is also that How many songs do you have that I tell my friends about like it's my song, right?

4:50 before the pandemic. Because he was always with us at the store. And then one day I called peaceful, cold as fuck in the winter, but just like more real. And that was my thought when I When they were doing that, I was like, they're not gonna let this go. especially, particularly, when it comes to talent you need fast. It's insane how quick it is. Download FanDuel and get more from North America's number one sportsbook. Please play responsibly. 19 plus and physically located in Ontario. Gambling problem call 1-866-531-2600 or visit

8:27 options to build a unique online presence from the ground up that's optimized for every It was like a completely different universe. doing shows at the Vulcan and one night the first time Ron had been on stage like was by default it was kind of a universe thing where there was a little bit of It was a beautiful thing up until they shut everything down. It's that beautiful here now though, but I know that's

11:07 It's like no matter what day you show you. ideologically captured and you you you make material that's bullshit you get different way to do it everybody's got their own way to do it but it's just If you don't you've got about 30 seconds with them in an arena in an arena real dangerous grounds, dude, bro The first bucket pull comes up and you could tell this bitch did not have any ideas

14:07 It's the best show for that kind of an audience. We watch it every day on the bus chaotic dog. You know, like what is going on? No, you're having to bring it. It was also just like this And that's what Kill Tony is. Right, we brought me an off record off the microphone. We were walking in here about have you hang around nine long enough you'll You know what I mean, but I wrote a hundred and I turned in a hundred and seventy songs to my whole last year

16:58 When you did New York New York at Madison Square Garden, I asked you I'm like how often you just do this to watch someone that's in the zone, Last time, Dave Attell was here. he's in this fucking flow. He's like a like a Zen master up there. It's scary how I'll come sing a song or two. So I just go over to guitar every night between comedians. they're the greatest storytellers ever.

19:13 I know he I see he has a flip phone, right? Yeah, he pulls a flip phone out He goes, you need help getting in? a magical energy on it was a lot of preaching on the first one I went to a southern church so I just understood Kenneson's inflections and that kind of thing. You just they've treat me. I don't know if you hear the stories, but I've become a fixture of furniture there when I'm in town

22:15 But I was so inspired by the way the mothership has Mitzis. to the public and when it's not it's not. Right. You knowall our rule is it's open to the public when it's open to the public I'm gonna bring her with me so she can meet Carrie that night cuz Carrie There's now no general public at all. So very small. You've ever been in the back bar the store. Oh, yeah

24:28 and then from that time out have it everybody we got to have a bar just for Mitzi. Just the same kind of same kind of vibe. I just know she did so much for you. on the way It's crazy, dude. Well, Joey could go to the store today and have a story. I mean that's why you love a good movie. That's why you love a good book. But think about the old, let's sit around the campfire, read stories.

27:26 the time where people would sit around and entertain each other in prehistory. That's why we're so attracted to it and they were doing fucking drugs back then too Imagine going through mushrooms and trying to figure out which ones kill you and which It's a sacred mushroom, no it's a sacred mushroom in the Christian myth and what was He thinks that the entire Christian religion was about psychedelic mushrooms and fertility

29:39 but on brand with that is Jesus told stories time. You know, because if you have a story, in the story Noah has an ark and he brings the That's crazy, because it's a story. That's 51 fucking years ago, that's insane. You know, it's like, who knows who's telling the truth? because that means if you need a web presence, That's deep. All that was in story. You think about stories too. They said, I've never been

32:34 Yeah. They should be legal and regulated and people should figure out what the fuck they do Everybody's worried about like this collapse of society because people they give up on capitalism, they tune in and drop out, If I'm really in a dark dark spot and can't get out of it. My wife will encourage me to go trip Day and just float the buffalo You know the wildest theory I've ever heard about psilocybin is is that it came from outer space

35:31 to another planet by way of an asteroid. cubensis mushrooms they're very weird and they're not really connected to And as if all this wasn't unique enough, the outer shell of the spore is the hardest organic His theory hypothesized that mushroom spores Yeah. kingdom alone. spores. Okay so we've read that but what is it there was something about his

38:54 Yeah, how'd the human brain double over two million years? I never dreamed that this is a simulation and that there is an overweight nerdy alien that plays me and It's like a figured it out if it's a simulation. It's a really good one. We're in a good timeline brother. Oh, it couldn't we're in a we're in a really good episode a week and I'm so in the vortex of touring yeah good we do that old-school

41:05 And then he calls Ian up and Ian's just throwing, of like a bumping mics thing, like a new version of that. It's also the way they laugh at each other doing it. That imposter syndrome thing ever oh man so much. I'm I doing here? You know what I mean? Like do you think that's a different world? But what's getting... Being Jelly Roll got me to the point that they're now saying I

44:12 Can't believe this is happening. I know you can't That you could feel the teapot bubbling similar of course he wound up being way bigger than me, but just like similar kind of there was a time in my life where I would have walked in here Kids would look at me and squall. That's really huge. basketball? We're playing basketball three days a week now. Wow. You want to

47:17 fucking playing in a this is insane by the way that I'm playing fucking NBA arenas and And we would all go play you know what I mean. It's like it's been really like What he's gonna tell you we're just two friends talking. I was like, I know what 20 million motherfuckers listening dog When I had a number five album last year, you couldn't have told me I didn't have a

49:34 But for a food lifelong food addict could Joe I was up to 550 some pounds. I was having to weigh myself at meat places Cause normally they get the candy. I would have ate them all. You know, is there a candy dish here? I'm just kind of you know, I'm moving different, but you probably have crazy powerful legs, dude So I had from eating bad for so many years

52:09 For a year and lost 200 something pounds. I think the way they explain it to me is that has something to do with the Yeah, it's just you know, it's a guy. I love for me. I'm always looking for like inspiration as I always forget his name, but your guy out there the archer guy um Greasies, you know, I mean, so just been kind of taking it slow, man insanely disciplined.

55:33 Yeah, you training and then at the end of the day then you get to eat. No, he's he's a machine that dude is Yeah. me. Chicago's always a great fucking town. It's such, what's the comedy club down there? Well they have a few. They have, little boy. Oh yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like little boy, so he calls it the lab at Zany's now. That all started in that lab,

57:52 called. It was called The Lab. Yeah, no, this place they call it The Lab. It's And that was the end of it. They did use the show. They did use the show they fired them fucking they fired them I have I can't just give in and say okay I would. Story was I think about the Joey D as the mother Mary story You know I think Jason Aldean would at least kill a six-minute story. You know what I'm saying everybody's got at least one good story

1:01:08 try to you know the story we've talked about a lot but it was a way to connect Like first thought, like I wonder if mama liked this, actually serve right and if it's a it could be anything as much as it's just You know what I mean? For sure. There's no other way that doesn't make sense and if his story couldn't get any cooler It's I joke with him all the time. I'm like you're a cowboy that plays a country music singer on the weekends

1:04:35 all peaceful and shit. We'll stay and watch the rodeo late at night because PBR plays on a, Is it Mooney or Mooney? with no helmet, cigarette lit in his mouth. It is so American dude, and they're especially had the cigarette I loved I loved songs about rodeos those what did it we talked about before? Don't ride the same goddamn bull that killed your dad.

1:07:21 So one night she was singing, this is back in the day when it was old school like a record exec discovered you. You know what I mean? And like flew you It's man. They quit. I did as a delusional dreamer, you know what I mean? Cuz there was moments I was like, I think that's why God kept blessing me is that me and DJ highlight is my DJs from Columbus, Ohio

1:09:49 going to. And I'd go home, my old beat up bed in my whole neighborhood probably had to look at That's how I felt. I was in Juvenile when we'd have Freestyle Fridays in Juvenile and if I Look at you up there. It's a dude. Well, the thing is, if you could figure it out, right, people figure out everything. There's a lot of good circumstances to happen your way,

1:12:45 Yeah, you know what I mean like Right now you said it earlier. What are you up to you off? Tell you off camera? Okay? and wrote, dreams die here. Yeah. But I connect with that in a way that's, writing is, it's an outlet for me. It always was. gifts. They're gifts from the universe. You've had that happen too. You find yourself at the Yeah, sometimes too

1:15:26 Because when Eminem ended up taking that song, you know Eminem redid that song. Oh, yeah, you got to hear it John Manili right then Joe I said man I hope he takes the first verse and chorus at the end. And he ended up doing somebody save me in the original chorus at the end. Wrote a song I wrote so many time my storytelling again. Sorry. I keep going here. It's my fucking story telling by guys. I

1:18:03 program but it's helped me so much not to go back to some of my demons it's taught me anybody want to get a 24-hour chip or a desire to change and the guy said I and thinking about how fucking Ukraine's gonna kill us I just seen one of the most beautiful acts of humanity I've ever seen. But we started the song the guy ended up being like 25 30 years clean that came in to help the other guy

1:20:36 with each other and sometimes it just lights a spark yeah it's just man caught up in the story. I listen to it once a week in the Cold Plunge, because the original version is like seven minutes. That's all get you and that's a story to and that motherfucker had a voice man I was a kid and we started listening to fire and rain and Yeah. That was, Hey, Mr. Jukebox James. Um,

1:24:26 cry three times. So simple but real. I thought I'd see you one more time again I mean, I'm not sure. I mean, I'm not sure. And was it, was it, he toured with Carole King forever, right? With her hair blowing. That might be one of the first diss songs. James Taylor? but she did date Warren Beatty, right? Yeah, so it was in the diss world too. I think that was the first.

1:30:15 Ronnie's position was just simply like hey, man No, no new young apologize later. It's really cool. He owned it. He publicly said Ronnie was right. But you know, his name checked and dissed. Yeah, I don't think they thought about it that way back then. what course, that has more riffs that you want to hum. if you ask me. Right. Halen but that solo was the same every time they did it. Oh the story

1:34:13 of Jacksonville and every song is about running away from girls I gotta go ladies forever I put a lock on it so I can still play it so when we do the album and the newer ones? takes a pickup from another guitar and puts it into I think in a most of his played the guitar that way so if you ever watched Gary play the guitar he So that video you just showed might have been one

1:36:40 If he sat down and put his seat belt on, You know, right, if we were to go to a bar tonight, Yeah, you know the reason, they still tour. Because remember the three Van Zands, They don't know anybody other than him to be their singer because he's been their singer No, that's the difference. be touring in their 70s. Yeah, dude. One it's the one Steven Tyler. Yeah that meeting that dude meeting people like that. It's just like

1:39:43 We thought Jeff Foxworthy You know what I mean? My father's a raging alcoholic, my mother does drugs all my brothers do drugs, but it was like, you know, we loved we'd love Jeff You know been missing like a real camarradery like the base the home base I've wrote in LA and I've had big songs come out of LA, but Nashville is just man It's the killers. You know what I mean is the dudes that are just the the dudes and girls down there

1:42:14 ah, I'm gonna have to really work for this one. I'm not panicked. this is like running what weights on. Hans Kim was like our best opener because Hans Kim has structure all of Joseph structure advantage the rest of it is people literally walking in with popcorn and Go out and do something that was so much dramatically bigger than us that it made sense for us to do it

1:44:49 give you a great show thank you it's the easy one right the the other one is the And that's what's been so about like the TikTok explosion These kids go straight into 2000 seat rooms and then stand up there like I've And you're going out there looking at 6,000 people. And here's the problem imagine you'll get like And then they end up having to circle back

1:47:25 honing their skills and they run into a wily veteran until they can make the big money You know and it's like what the perfect example of this in the UFC to me is one guy could be sugar Chase still has a shot. He's still super talented. He just had to really get better at striking Is he 30 now? Every time you see him he looks more muscular, more jacked, you know.

1:49:56 Tevandre Sweat is the defensive end for the Tennessee Titans. I'm a huge Titans fan. He was our first round You know what I'm saying? Developed in yet, right? No that dude. I'm looking at Devondre sweat right now and I'm like especially guys for their position they're in a car wreck every play yeah I I just gotta fight my way around. I mean what other countries even played other than Canada?

1:52:21 And they were like, oh, where you'll kick a ball, they'll go, no. And they'll go oh where you'll kick a ball they'll go no and they'll go so you never kicked the ball because that's what he does he just kind of goes through trash and all these Have you seen Theo speaking to Nashville guys? Yeah I think it might be. you were on fucking fire. pop culture is if a comedian will burn on you a little bit that's hilarious

1:56:01 I went out on the river up here and it's just... I'm coming, Yeah, scooters the best and I was like I think if I came down there we would get you know You just give me the right to call it the the music mothership in Nashville. I'll give you the right right now sing a song they wrote and tell you the story about the song. and the first time I left the mothership I was like I'm doing this for music. I'm

1:58:40 You knew that if the comedians were happy they would show the fuck up and then if you did everything you could to cater it to Imagine your little alien with a guitar, you know, I'm saying it called the music mothership That's a full laboratory show. My favorite show I've seen there. Nobody There's a bit right like all the sudden because of necessity because you're forced into the situation

2:00:59 No, I like it. It feels like we're all sitting Indian style together. Show sold out like that. with you was one of the first times I did this pot I think you had shows that I was like, oh, I'm staying. but you fuck around a little more I never even thought of that one before you get straight off stage and write them down? idea. So and then I'll usually like try to write it out like an essay form so if

2:03:50 contradict myself like in the middle of it. I'll go, but what the fuck? Why would years ago and she'd be like, hey, I want to put some of this stuff out. I've been writing really know how to do it. I don't hear it from my teachers. something. I can do that with something. I just have to find a thing. Just find a thing, man. healthy dose of that. He said you've only been out here trying this as hard as you

2:07:31 know what I mean he's like if you're really doing that there's no way it's Guess what he does? Yeah, if you keep going, that's the thing we were talking about before about people That one that one's tank more guys than anything. Yeah, I've seen and gals And then trying to block it out to make the art. just like everybody else. That's what the superpower really was is that every fucking

2:10:09 different than other people because that'll make success more attainable. that had never had their story told, but I was just going out of my way to try to come Like I just started writing from that perspective. Y'all have all seen the movie. Family split and bred, one of the greatest movies ever. cheering for me? He goes, because you're them. I was like, I'm the fucking Cinderella man.

2:12:57 See winning streak I watch this moment I Yeah I know what I'm supposed to be writing about, you know to react to it, how you want to like get out there and kill it in front of everybody. You know when I'm at my best it's when I didn't know they were cheering They live in Beverly Hills. They think they're better than us because they're a I am fucking kicking ass in business. Yeah, the last one is home dramas. Yeah, you don't want no home drama

2:16:33 And then I just started kicking ass outside gonna get it. Man that's deep. That's probably the hardest part. It's a lot of It's an amazing story. He's killing it. Yeah, I used to be in a band It's just loud heavy metal music. Yeah my daughter turned me on to her. Thank you for your time brother.