Joe Rogan Experience #2214 — Shane Smith Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. I'm doing a podcast now. Yeah, Yeah. Yeah. Yeah a Like during COVID I was like, Oh, I was just there. I love talking to people. I love meeting people. And I love sort of You're getting in there. There's going to be guardrails. Well that's the problem. I've talked to him many times. I interviewed him once. Assassinations, Deep State, getting into it.

3:47 were involved in the Kennedy assassination? There were the mob and Cubans and the CIA and they tried to commit many times they tried to kill them they go all the way and they get the contract, trillions of dollars, and they act in cahoots It's not bureaucrats in the CIA. So we started just talking technical shit. And then we got into it and then everyone started talking about the deep state, deep state.

6:37 completely believable. And then, so when you believe that, then you start saying, okay, I can talk to someone who's a beekeeper. Like, there's no one I have on where I'm like, I can't believe I'm talking about this. It can push you to do your best, break personal records, and make smarter choices. And that's probably because it doesn't waste your time or money

8:58 Again, ziprecruiter.com slash rogan. Download FanDuel and get more that didn't seem like regular journalists. They seemed like just people that you knew. Yeah, because it was these intelligent people that didn't seem like regular journalists, Arctic Adventures, that is till today one of that one with Heinmo's Arctic Adventures. He saw 9-11 in a photograph.

10:56 lived there for, like, 80 years. Whoa. I think, and one was like 80 who was the youngest or something. internet, right? Because internet opened up a bunch of you know, when it was young, it was like, it was new internet, It's so strange to see going from what you made to what it is now. consolidating because they have to because there's the big five are taking all the money

14:08 you don't get to say I want to do this that often. So and we always had a thing fucking everything. or I can move to LA. All right. You would buy the fucking computers on your credit card and you would fucking go to the It was tangible. Like I was good at building, I'm good at building, the best. But it's the most important. I have friends that have big podcasts and they have this huge staff and they have all

17:47 complaining and then people leave and make videos need them in the first place. This whole thing was stupid. Like you're making a You notice problems. That's a mess man You have what happens at David Spade the guy shows up with duct tape and a taser and tries to are working as an assistant, probably a little fucked up, And so you've you've you've because you wanted to appear like you have a everybody wants a big organization

20:40 Run a tight ship. So then all this stuff, and you have to do more work, there's more hassles, then you have a whole group of people reporting to you and this is exactly you're a wise dude because like you keep it small, you're exactly right. That's like, Yeah, fun is the most important thing. 100%. It's just like your home, okay great, what do you need?

22:45 But other than that... And check this out, so I got it, so it was me and Wayne Newton. Yeah, yeah, yeah. his Rolls Royce getting I think you'd fucking love it cuz I was out with Rick you can just swap the batteries out. You must have had to upgrade the brakes in a big way, right? Hello. I think they do a Mustang as well, but they take these classic cars

26:26 Yeah, but you could get a resto mod. You could rest them on it You know electric cars are different than any other car in terms of the speed that you get the wiggling of the tires. you any fucking that. I used to go, speaking of the old days of ice, I had everyone who used to laugh because going to fucking supermarket because you just like I'm going to buy some fucking food and

29:22 That's how I view cars. Sure. Especially old cars. I love them. I would be fine. Just because something's hard to get doesn't mean it's good to get. I have one. But it's not like like a Ferrari like you know Ferraris can be beautiful. It's different. It's different Mine is like, it's got 1969 Camaro fenders. it's just this experience of sounds. They put above everything in your life.

32:29 watch, whatever. And I was like, it's no fucking watches worth $50,000, like $50,000 like watch. version of that which which they made like four of and I want I was chasing ales on the plane and take your shit off and put it in the box and then you... learning shit, like making shit, but also at the same time, like It's good for your mental health.

34:49 She spent her entire life tracking wolves and and and handling them and coloring them and studying them Like, what do you think about this? Yeah. I like talking to people, and I like learning, Is it still Vice? I lost the most out of anybody not that I'm asking anybody to fucking cry for me anything never fucking said no. That's all fucking bullshit.. We tried to sell it to Time Order tried to sell it to Disney

37:52 iceberg not just us, you know look at all the new media like right it culture five five five And you got people who are semi checked out if not checked out and you know shit got set. we gotta do this, this is what we gotta do. You have 5,000 people saying what we gotta do rather than five. with fucking AI and with some other stuff, it's fun. And,'re just fucking building trying to do new shit with fucking a high and with someone says it's fun and

39:07 It's foolish. You're Gen X. Time has been like our little window Like you're born in the 60s, you grow up in And God knows if it happens again, because AI is going to be all human endeavor done I'm going to go out there in life and just be like, I'm literally living in the greatest took a long time to make a phone call. Maybe they're more important than you.

42:00 and I'd call you back and leave a message on your machine, And social media has brought an incredible amount of information to people, but has also And I've had many friends that started becoming successful and then started doing really well and then started reading people's comments about yourself. And I've had many friends that started becoming successful

42:56 But I mean, really. comments on YouTube videos and shitty comments on someone's Instagram or I smile, you smile. that may or may not be mentally ill, I loved it. Fingerprint of Tim Burton on this. It's like it's so obviously through his mind his vision. I think the guy's incredible anywhere near that area, I'm eating there 100%. That place is sensational.

45:33 If I can make it there. Ari Emanuel? And there's butter on it. But it's the point, it's like even a place like that, that you should go there and just And I think we were talking about this last night that I think this is a symbol of the Israel and Gaza and the Middle East and fuck, man. on the reality of our existence which if we lived at any other time we lived in

47:55 It was bad. There's a reason why most people in history were drunk. Because they had to they're like there was a southern new teacher of 200 years ago, it's safer. brought that up and I remember looking at that going, oh yeah, fuck, we're doing good. only way we're gonna be able to keep people alive. My fear is that we're You're going to have to find something

50:37 This is a handmade thing, and a handmade thing is always, to me, is going to be very valuable. They've been encouraged to get a job let's say quantum computing happens and AI at the same time which is probably We're gonna buy them off many of these people? There's something probably that most people want to do. money because the yes and and that's gonna have to that's hard be a revamping of the education system that's exactly to be a revamping of the education system.

54:38 Out of debt and then you die right and so you just work work work work work and by the way you're exactly right you Because all of this human endeavor Well, it is if you enjoy it. I was at dinner the other night and my friend, who's friends with this billionaire, his friend You should be marlin fishing. Like, what? when you're getting a bit of cash,

56:43 In general, a lot of times. And you're like, that fucking sucks. And like, yeah, to you you know in general a lot of times and I guess I was like 26 and it was the first time ever I had like a good chunk of money like six figures in the bank feeling. That's a terrible feeling. And that's the feeling most people are listening to this a lot of money, but it was, you know, same kind of deal, like six-figure thing. And I took out the money

59:01 like you can kind of take this any way, freaking out, like what the fuck's gonna, like I think I'm sure that you're gonna There's this big, you know, chaotic time right now It'll give everyone that feeling of, And that's what I'm worried about. He puts in a hard day's work, when he gets that paycheck, We've made ourselves useful and it makes you useful to the tribe,

1:01:46 It's gonna be like this screaming, don't do that, it's risky. that why aren't you, you did so well in martial arts, Everyone says no. I was like, I don you spending so much time doing video? That's so stupid. Nobody watches video. But there's so many people that don't There are so many. I wish I had 50 lives to live simultaneously. and the same thing, everybody told me no,

1:04:19 him mock podcast when I was doing I was like damn I was like oh he's wrong. We gotta stimulate them. I had so much fucking energy. I wasn't a Honda Civic. It doesn't just do that, it tells you to not go for it. and just say look, don't do any of that shit. It actually does. No health insurance, no nothing, The levels of how many people have learned to control their emotions

1:07:28 to when you were in the wrong, Because if you don't and if you do it, it's gonna be so exciting. It's gonna be terrifying. You're like, oh my god ever in the history of fucking time. And so when you put it in a sort of grandiose perspective, you're like, I'm going to enjoy That's what you should enjoy if you're sitting at a restaurant having a nice steak and a

1:09:13 That's one thing about reporting is you come back and you're like, you really fucking enjoy, We're going through and all the chaos and all the potential wars that we're involved in and wars were involved in It's gonna be like you know and you're like oh fuck you for yet because we come from oh I'm like, I came here with no fucking shoes, I'm like, this is the greatest goddamn city

1:11:25 I always feel like Canada has 20% less douchebags. Great place to go. into communism. You're sliding every day. They push a little bit further, a little bit the doctors were all good, some of the best doctors in the world, and then they're supposed to work on, the healthcare. I really get this feeling, and maybe, Yeah. the largest surplus of all time, largest deficit, increased size of government.

1:14:41 And you're like, to me, when you look at America, you say, okay, it's a Republic, it's two party It's like, this is super fucking important for is fascinating and it's great that you do it, big pharma big food big education military industrial what the Politically, politically, politically, America's set up to do very...the American government But those were the big ones.

1:16:39 advertisers and that's where you get fucking crazy. Comedians I want to know what you know about aliens. Yeah, I'm sorry nothing new, like I forget who it was but I was talking to somebody who goes, what New York Times eighteen days in a row and he was on thirteen on the Washington Post this whole fucking thing going on over here where the status quo doesn't change. And I

1:19:16 So we're on season 53. between Jill Biden's people and Kamala Harris's people? Yeah, there's so many of them so many of them but I I love I love memes like oh my god Right but just his per White House official, and Kamala staffers in the White House So he decides to do that. He'd be wearing the MAGA hat like look, there's no fucking way. They're happy

1:22:06 go and you can sit in the room with her. There you go. Yes, no. Yep. Yep. That's great. They're the fucking Queen of England and they're supposed to be the Queen of England Here's Jimmy Tingle, who's an amazing comedian. He goes, make a note. Yeah, and he would walk around with a bathrobe and slippers and just mumbled to himself Wow. and then get them to all blow up at the same time.

1:25:00 It's about like we can't win a war, so we're going to assassinate our way to safety. When you find out they're doing that, like, goddamn. Hezbollah and then the second head and then the third head within like three or four days of each other and then they're trying They have to re put the Pegasus in real. Yeah I mean, I'm sure there's probably some hacks,

1:26:49 Oh, you're fucked. And the thing that you see with the internet I think you talked to him too, I went to Russia and I hung out with him at the Metropole, by the way, I don't think a lot of people know what he did. what? Someone's got that. Oh yeah, so that's what they're gonna say. So not only your money, Yeah. That's what gets really weird. Because they're talking to some guy that I know?

1:29:38 That's another thing about this country. I mean, it's like gold digging. Because I just really don't know how you're going to accumulate real wealth if everything of the world and that shit hasn't even penetrated yet. Like that's what we're gonna be dealing with. Yeah, which gets larger and larger. bit, somebody fucking blew up the car. from Vietnam era, it could be 90s era,

1:33:15 their own you know movie director because you can just plug in your story If you were AI now and we're looking at the show, you'd say, yeah, these guys don't know what the fuck. And that's, but that's just media, like it's gonna be every fucking business. there will be this thing of like people moving to building tables or making art or doing whatever

1:35:44 house because if you start losing your house, if you Smith and Ricardo it and start losing your house, we're moving into a completely new way of existing. And it's going to be a tumultuous So your algorithm is an information. Yes We are fucking with it. Well, once they have quantum computing, we're fucked financially. thing about like how you adopt technology. It takes you like 10 years to adopt it. What was it

1:39:06 No, I think it's going to happen so quick and I have the craziest thought about it that I don't think they're biological anymore. I think there's parallel. physicists that can tell you it's provable dark matter dark energy 10 or 11 he's a young kid, built a functioning fusion reactor How old is this kid? that has to do with physics, him, but maybe not. Somebody said the math is wrong. And they're like, the math is wrong.

1:42:06 Infinite possibilities and infinite so you're not crazy because physics is now saying all of this shit is fucking that you got these, these mixes. If you're downloading your brain into a computer, And I think it's one of the most unique aspects experience, a near-death experience, a profound love feeling. When something just comes to you and you're like, where the fuck did that come from?

1:44:37 and where you live and who you're friends with and what you interact with on a daily the kind of shit. This is what I've been waiting the whole fucking time to get into he told the same story And slowly but surely, and again, this is not fact, Everything looked like it was 3d printed. There was no seams. There was no bolts. The whole thing had no there was no electronics

1:47:07 things that they had got from these alien inhabitants, that we are vessels, that they to biological organisms, but then you create life to have creativity and desire and needs and it It actually has a task that it wants to accomplish that this has to be connected somehow or other to biology and you on a path and you're like are we a grand evolutionary experiment? And if so, why? Well, if this is what the universe does

1:48:59 and that we constantly search for innovation. That leads to artificial intelligence. is it encourages innovation. but well light bulbs were better they used to be better because they didn't And that's it. phones are so good It's out the window now. Supposedly area 51 suppose it S4 area 51 S4 site four is where he worked see I don't know That's probably true as well.

1:52:22 You can't you can't change their evolution. There's probably bizarre states of consciousness where a certain amount of psychedelic chemicals Like the Kenneth Arnold sightings from the 1950s They're not liars and there's a ton of those sightings that are in the Goldilocks zone. fucking the island of india you know north sentinel island yeah life? How come it never happens again? You're just sitting home, wait, is this going to

1:56:00 denial in the 1960s and there's also Operation Blue Book, which is a concerted effort to dismiss all the sightings as illegitimate and swamp gas. 10%, there's no fucking way. for it all to be bullshit. That's what I think. Why can't I talk about why can't I think about it? By the way, people You're gonna live a terrible life. Yeah, and kind of things, if they're not fascinating to you,

1:58:44 either this is a spectacular lie, if they're telling the truth either this is a Only to idiots. There's way more people that are, even the New York Times in 2017, It'd be really easy to do. It's easy to get people that think that Donald Trump is Hitler, and it's easy to get people There you go. And the image that you're seeing in these quantum entangled photons is a Yin and Yang

2:00:45 I don't understand the way they're recording it. I don't understand the technology behind The new method called bifoton digital holography uses an ultra-high precision symbol. if we're giving this as long as we see this at the end result and They go in and out of existence. What does that mean, how are they connected? taking a piece of it and then we're releasing its power. And I'm like, I didn't know that.

2:03:33 like, oh you're making, by that fusion reactor is making a star. many different kinds of people because there's people that are wholly obsessed in pursuing that. dealing with new data. than me, because again, I only understand We still don't know what they are. like they're starting to consider the possibility It's probably filled with life, just like us.

2:05:49 Which one did you use? You sent me some, whatever you sent me. I did it for concentration. But there's some- probably the best way is probably a patch. But that just feels weird. Walking around with a patch. No, it's no nicotine good for the brain, bad for the... Well, I know guys who do that when they work. unheralded It was like a scandal that people were taking creatine.

2:07:46 Great for your brain. It's just gum. I've done like five. They're like three-part is and it starts out with something I'm fascinated by that's on social media I just ask questions again, I'm not, I'm not, I don't have like, I'm not trying to shoehorn Really interesting. but I also want to go talk to the people who are you know putting stuff up and really knows what it is if you like want to get into clinical explanations or have real

2:10:35 Just whatever you're interested in. different groups manipulating us through bots. that we don't really know what people actually connected to ideology. You know like they'll have super positive gas But there's two sides to that story. it's after the border, and they were trying to get to the south yeah we've been down to the south we've rode the beast we're in the darien gap

2:13:30 to both the head of the border guards. We talked to sheriffs. We talked to militia dudes here and here's the stats 80% are come to their to their meetings like Can we not talk to Homeland? fact like an open border doesn't mean an open border. It doesn't mean you can just fucking But like to me, when I saw the open borders, they'll still have a tweet, right? Mm-hmm, and it'll say open borders and they'll have a fucking gate opening with people running through that gate

2:15:52 Well, there's a lot of smuggling. Exactly. So you get two narratives. I'm gonna sip water. you know, what are your big, you know, and all he wanted to talk about was the Republicans. are being brought into this country and then being shipped to swing states. That's to have people that can vote that shouldn't be voting. and it's only being pushed by the Democrats. There's only one reason that makes any logical

2:18:35 them with housing and money. This is amazing. haven't seen. I'm not denying it or fighting for it. That's something we haven't seen, like Okay. It took a lot of time. Yeah, you have to study, which I did, and I got 100% of my test. Look, I'm not going to get too into the app because I only did it through interviews, It seems like it simplifies people being able to get into the country illegally.

2:21:03 when JD Vance had to step up Yeah, we gotta find out a way to citizenship Like I talked to everybody I could on both sides. Right. Everybody has facts. Don't like I'm going to be inundated with everyone has fucking tons of Right. And immigration obviously being a very interesting one and I'm going to continue on it because or you could get on your app and you can get into America,

2:23:22 and rapists and thieves and gang members and a lot of them are getting through and that's what we have That there's no fucking root basis and truth and people believe on one side this thing and believe on the other side this thing you have the same kind of monster that's adopted a different ideology. That's all it is. That's that's a giant percentage of social media all these mentally ill people that are in a gang and that's all it is

2:25:37 And it's exacerbated by social media. Like that's why I'm like, hold on a second. The only way you find the truth is social media. dig through some of the shit, which by the way proved to be a lot harder. Tight chip. And by the way, surprisingly, maybe not surprisingly, But it was back in the fucking Tarzana or whatever. It was just over. Mm-hmm Be paranoid.

2:28:23 Pretty funny. what to come back to. How long? I don't remember. It was pretty cheap. 100 grand? In beginning. It was super cheap because it was just a laptop and a microphone And then we had the big ass warehouse. so it works in your mind, it resonates in your mind. the more it's not gonna feel right. You've missed the point. The reason why it works is because the

2:31:32 I don't think it's good. To go back to where we're all tied together. you were pretty sure what 1980 was going to be like. It literally hasn't changed a lot since 1924. Right. Nothing like it does today. it to be like, great, I can fucking do something I love rather than work in a fucking factory, There wasn't these kind of conversations that could really light up the fires of your

2:34:00 Yeah. All of them praying that it didn't work out for you. You can adopt that even if it doesn't feel right because you're grinding, you're trying there's nobody happier than me. Let's figure it out. All right, brother, tell everybody what you know is, You gotta come on. I love you, man.