Joe Rogan Experience #2219 — Donald Trump Transcript
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0:00 Need more hot takes? Head to the FanDuel Sportsbook app. They've got more ways to bet, more ways we shouldn't play it because it could get copyright struck and we don't want to get You might be did one of her last shows I think maybe Thursday or Friday there was a big deal I was involved in that. Mark said, you're crazy. What happened is previously, like three years,
4:04 I thought about it, but never real thought thought but I saw these polls were very good. some very good successes. And I came on and then I thought about it for the next lot of people that were longtime Democrats like Elon and Bill Ackman and all these different very intelligent people. And they support me now. When you got in. When I was laying on the ground, I knew exactly what was going on.
6:03 I knew exactly what happened. the hotel, the old post office it was. I mean, it was incredible. When you've watched like Kennedy and some yeah, right, but I really felt I don't know the love was so crazy. And so I White House as being beautiful inside. But I was standing there and I said to the guys, the Lincoln bedroom and the bed, you know, he was very tall. He was six foot six, which
9:08 But right there the original version of the Gettysburg address and this is the original and I'm looking and I just looked around longer, had to be a little bit longer. there, little tiny, everything at the wednesday, You know, not about the fight stuff, the fighters but the one who was not nearly the fighter had beaten he's the only guy that to get Robert E. Lee to be on the north but he said, no, I have to be with my state. You
12:13 These are not woke guys. So here I am standing there and You've never been a governor, you've never been a mayor. Private stuff. Business. But that I really focused on, What did you expect though, in terms of like, once you got inside, you had to appoint all But in terms of major ones, you probably have like a hundred, but they're big ones. Treasury, state, military. And how did you know who
15:25 We're gonna make it great. What did you think it was going to be like? Mostly Democrats, right? Actually, they had a reform party. In other words, you need now to say, okay, now I'll get half of Congress. So it was really somebody that not only was new So it's 8% generals, no admirals, So you'd never had a thing like this. But I got to like some of them.
18:56 die for it of course now they don't want to be known I mean there's a particular outside of a politician, because a politician you know nothing about where he's been. When you put them in, it's a little bit dangerous because all of a sudden Stiff. One little thing. and ultimately didn't do it. Right. Yeah. You know what? He's been there like for answer if the one mistake because I did I had a lot of success great economy
22:33 The biggest mistake I made was I picked some people, Because you got bad advice. But you know, he's bad. He doesn't play cards, but he's a great player. businesses he said he's a bad guy he's, it always works out bad with that guy. to go to war with us. He was with Bush when they went stupidly into the Middle East. They Pre-prepared politician lingo.
25:17 It's very difficult to know. It's funny stuff, but it's like you, and you were making fun of Elon one time, No one had done that. Yes, the most. I mean, you haven't even how they would be trying to get guns from China, nobody took in ten cents, not one other president. Some people think that would have been a good idea anyway. You make yourself a target,
28:05 I tell you, to me, I would talk to these guys Yeah, one tenth of 1% die. Right. And they certainly get hurt badly, really. I mean, If they didn't conflate you with Hitler. they make them up entirely. Like I said, we don't want to get a copyright strike. So we're not gonna put it up She was, I don't even know, anyway, blah, blah, blah. Then all of a sudden she goes to interviews. She's starting hitting the hell out of's a consequential, he was the greatest president, blah, blah, blah.
30:37 There are guys on like CNN, they won't hire them. Well, it's just— All these- They edited it deceptively. bad. You know, I'd give an answer, which was a very good answer. I always talk about, you It doesn't come back home and they end up in the wilderness, right? She gives an answer that was, that shows that she's essentially incompetent. And they took
32:57 version was available initially. It was like a preview. And then all of a sudden they said, we got a problem. It's their news division. That was bad. Well, the problem was they fact-checked you and they didn't fact-check her and most egregious examples of that was when she said that Stupidly deployed. Well, Joe, when I said crime is soaring You turned out to be right, but then there's another problem.
36:00 He say carpenters fucking suck, but they don't suck. Most of them are great. Sorry. You know, it doesn't even make a you. Or your house got broken into? Sorry. The car, dark windows, pull over. You're not allowed to have your gun out by the way. Yep. They're very strict rules Absolutely, and there's another thing that people don't talk about how many of them have PTSD
38:27 But every time there's a bad apple, You should have better training. You know, we're doing pretty well now. she was to all these transgender operations. You just walked here from Guatemala. United States. Detroit has been really tough. It's been a disaster. They have a It would have, more than all of Michigan makes, Tariff it's more beautiful than love. It's more beautiful than anything. It's the most beautiful word
41:58 He spoke beautifully of tariffs. to pay tariffs. Please don't. You know, they, believe me, they control our politicians. with all the money we had. rocket coming in. I told the story once or twice, so you may have heard it, because his You know, it cooks like 10,000 degrees pouring down And I see this, and it's gonna crash. No, I called Elon I said was that you he said that was me and I said who else can do that
45:04 I followed it right down, you should do the same thing, Joe, Oh, he was phenomenal. I just, so they said, they said, could you get him? We're spending just to show you we're spending a trillion dollars to get cables all over the country right up to upstate areas That's like a gas pump, right? They built nine gas pumps, except electricity comes out.
47:42 you think it was going to increase the deficit by a substantial amount? People call me, they said, what a great idea. It inspired, now we had other things too. spend their money there that was part of what I did the money came pouring back of being in office. I'm in the Oval Office and I have John McLaughlin and Fabrizio, they're And also, I cut regulations more than anybody else.
50:24 We had it going, and then we just had to focus on something else. The following day, they said, around place the way You know, if you viewed this $35 trillion right now, it's a lot. We're going to do more business. are legitimate, of course? The other is regulation. I had to build, I had to do environmental impact studies. I was one of the kings of, I was always very good.
54:42 I said, they shouldn't give it up. I want to be honest with you. How do they do. You know, I want to be honest with you. And you have to go by the standards of a lake. Well, they get fees. Yeah, I think they maybe had more. Of all of it, to me, the toughest thing was the environmental, because they could stop Right, but there are legitimate concerns about environmental impact, correct? There are. the morass. It's a morass. It's horrible. They use it as a weapon. They use it all over the country.
57:20 water. I view it differently. I say air and water. Remember this, it costs much more to That stuff floating over China is right over the top of us right Right. Same thing with the oceans. They dump their garbage into the Pacific Long before we were here. But we get the China, you know, they call it the China Curse. Do you know, they closed every factory one week before I got there from within 200 miles.
59:34 And the day he left... Well, this is the thing that like shows you how foolish a lot of these people that are has been documented in San Francisco. but but water you know in I said, do you have a drought? It's the most, it's like Iowa, it's the most fertile land. I said you mean you have water and I looked at it Think of those dry forests that burned down all over.
1:03:01 And human beings screwed that up. they let it go into the Pacific visit their territory and I did, but I kept saying, look at this land, it's I could have water for all of that land, water for your forest. And you know, there's a case with the environment. I went to that. But when they fall right there like, you know, it's like lighting a match fall but raking all you could could get rid of the dead fall, but raking all the leaves.
1:05:43 I got it all done. Nobody could believe it. No, I don't think so. I'm telling you, people living in Beverly Hills, Like, within a month, they had some announcement asking people a little bit busy. even better systems. But the point is they're better at it now And they're not allowing and I'm gonna open it up. I gonna let them use it but how do you do that how do you do
1:08:55 All of those guys in Detroit are going to be out of business. Saudi Arabia, one of the biggest finds in the world. It was all set to go. And Biden comes in, one of his first orders were, we're not going to use it. It would So it can be done responsibly? Absolutely. Oh, otherwise it protects the environment. We had to drive past this enormous windmill farm.
1:10:45 By the way, they say you can't bury them. They come up with this. and they're all different manufacturers It's no different than leaving garbage on the ground Well, they say that the wind drives them crazy. It drives the whales fricking crazy. You have this beautiful valley They put up a wall and an inspector comes along, you can't put a hammer through it, you can't,
1:13:35 and he says, take down a 25-zillion-dollar wall. hook it up, and they hook it up, because they get too big When I was in the White House, the head of MIT Princeton and And he said, someday it's going to be the way to go. Well, that was part of the problem with giving nuclear It's nuclear warming. He's sharp. He did. I think so. So it's logical to assume that that's what they wanted.
1:17:10 So they read the polls then... So I really don't believe too much in them. These polls say they charge you a lot of money, too. They announce it and everybody says, oh, do you understand? I just don't think it is. No, I like them this month. and it was like zero degrees Wisconsin and they had me down but I'm not gonna waste my time, it's cold out. It's crooked stuff.
1:20:25 They say it was 22,000 votes, but look, it was much more than that and I appreciate JD I think he's a brilliant guy and I think his ability to talk like a normal human being. No, you didn't know no, no, it got me was sort of like a top shot. Mm-hmm He's great, he's a fantastic fighter. Hillary Clinton famously denied that she called you an illegitimate president and she said
1:22:24 There's been many of them, the Bush administration, My point is this idea of election fraud is a forbidden topic. No one thinks it's zero percent. and they didn't approve, She's a very low IQ. world history, long time world history, what this is like. and then she comes out with a result that was a real embarrassment. That was a really brilliant guy whether you like it or not and they go crazy right it doesn't mean
1:26:16 I used to talk to him all the time. I said it with President. The day I left, they flew 28 bombers he also wouldn't have done it because of the you know one of the reasons that but he took everybody out. But you take your soldiers out last. and we have this, and we have this, What was your plan? I've ever seen. We left the best equipment in the world behind. What would
1:29:34 And I said, get this guy on the phone. He said, yeah, well, I will admit, no soldier. our soldiers. Number one, they should have left from Bagram. that Milley was a dummy. than it is to fly it out with a tank of jet fuel But I defeated ISIS with the greatest generals. And he said, so we're going to hit them here, we're going to hit them there, we're going
1:32:38 And I flew to, I flew and left at three o'clock in the morning. Nobody knew I was going. I said, you mean we spent $8 trillion in the air and they'll shoot at it, you know? And I like to sit with pilots a lot of times And I get up there, and I'm sitting, But I got into the plane, the cockpit is dark black, There's nothing. 700. You know, I'm going I don't see the lights up there captain. Sure. We're okay, you know
1:36:01 And all of a sudden, and you hear it. Wow, wow, perfect landing like glass. And then I got out of the plane and I'm going down we go into the room. We go and, I mean, Biden would have taken a nap for four days and then I think it's a bad system the way they pulled out of Afghanistan We have great people, but not the television guys. one bomb if you take a look at North Korea,
1:39:23 By the time I finished, I was the biggest problem? He said North Korea. By the time I finished, him, meaning his people, they wanted to meet. They wouldn't meet Obama. He tried to meet. I got to know him very well. unsuccessful. These are- You know, one of the things that they've said Migrants that coming across the border illegally they've moved them to swing states
1:43:05 you can't get into a school. It's gone from a beautiful little place to a horror show. And the mayor's trying to be politically correct. And you have a weak governor, a pathetic governor, who's a radical-left Democrat. There's a strategy that's involved cartel rich people by the way these are loaded these people have so much money He is the greatest guy. You know, I always say, nobody's indispensable, you know, everybody can
1:45:36 And he's also the greatest guy. He was away. And then I said, all right, so we're looking who we're going I've been friends with him for 23 years. I love so would you have? Yeah, I would still be doing it, for sure. Stand-up comedy, UFC, and all the interests It'd be very. And I only did it for a couple of years. Said I never saw anything like this. It was crazy. It was so so good take the best fight you've ever it was like that fight right it was so good that I
1:48:54 He said, he stood up and he gave us stuff that nobody But I just didn't know if maybe I was crazy they want to protect their fighter controversial fights where you know it's Yes, and there's also no other options to preserve yourself, to protect yourself. So Yeah, you know and then there's also the issue of guys weight cutting, you know Like when when boom boom Mancini had a fight with duck who kim and killed him in the
1:52:08 Yeah, you go back to the golden age. UFC is five minute rounds. would say he's the greatest of all time, never lost. There's certainly a really good argument He might have lost to him. Oh, the best athletes in the world. and he ended up as a heavyweight. So James Toney and I think it was, say, George. Yeah, Randy Couture fought James Toney. Yeah, he ankle picked him, took him down, mounted him, strangled him.
1:54:45 I don't think he knew what he was doing. If he did, he would kill them. who fought in Pride. in the world right now. mentioning names. If they stopped they had the perfect, they were unbelievable and then fought a second time and he broke his leg on Chris Weidman. Right, that's right. You're never the same, because you can't kick. You have to get surgery, you have to get bolts and plates to keep your leg together, and then it takes forever for it to heal.
1:57:28 Like these guys can kick baseball bats here seem to break baseball bats with their shins I'm crazy some guys can do two baseball bats So I think that's why. No. I just wanted him to be able to express himself. and I love this make America healthy again idea because there are chemicals and ingredients Because I had a feeling you'd be asking me. men are ineligible for the military because of their health.
1:59:24 USA. Wow. That's pretty good. Jamie's the best. He's very good. He's the best. Because he doesn't like oil. I understand. But listen, there's plenty of good work that could be done if you focus on health. the Big Pharma wasn't thrilled when they heard that, you know, I have a relate. I've actually there have been some pharmaceutical drugs that have been prescribed that
2:01:56 and there's no polio. you actually give them polio. We're only one of two countries in the world that I said does that affect the purchase or they say it really does Yes. And the pesticides and things like that on the plants and the... We've created this incredible society where we have these enormous cities, but it's very to get people healthier, just put it out there
2:05:24 and I looked at how unhealthy we are as a nation that's a that's a pretty big a couple of hours, you're not. And I go quick. I play fast, real fast, and I'm in, I'm out. I don't do it, you know, I have friends they've running this stuff all day long Because when you're looking at a shot, that's all you can think of when you're executing. No aware. I what I did is I played with Bryson de Shambo. Do you know Bryson? Yes the pro
2:08:08 It's so important. because you have 9 billion, day before, and she's going to take off tomorrow or the next And I make speeches oftentimes, sometimes not, but I make speeches. you can lose that voice, if voice wasn't designed. get good press. I don't think I've had a good story in years. I really don't. I swear. I But let me get to that. Record time, right?
2:11:15 I only get bad press. most young people I think are aware of it. I think most boomers still the Russiagate hoax, all these different things And I said, it's a bloodbath. They're intelligence. Well, look at the ratings. Yeah, you know shows like yours. So I have a son is very smart and tall He said, Dad, he's a great guy. I'm plus 30 and I'm on talk to take a I think young people 30 with young people. I'm plus 30.
2:13:41 There's a big difference now, but even in just a couple of years I was shaking hands with They're talking about regulating free speech and they're regulating the First Amendment. He'd kill you in two seconds if he didn't like you, right? I could have put Crooked Hillary in jail. They're going, he's going to put us in jail. He's going to invest. That's what you're doing. That's what you're doing to him. They're going, he's going to put us in jail.
2:15:18 I respected that you didn't because what you said was it would be bad for the country. goes, he's a stupid son of a bitch. He got up, Joe, he got up, and instead of saying she's innocent of all charges, he went He's a hog. I'll bet you I'd be at 95% in the FBI. I'm gonna well they not only cut you well to do the things they did, and they didn't get it.
2:18:49 like let me just give you okay go ahead for 51 intelligence agents come up that 22,000 votes spread over, that's spread over this period. So, 51 intelligence Well, no, it's proven it didn't happen. with the original Twitter and get them to remove links. You can't share it on as this horrible threat to democracy and Hitler. It does. She was supposed to do it and she might still do it and I hope she does.
2:22:26 I don't think that two people No one interfering with pressed with with checking whether or not it's factual I would rather have a crowd. Of course you would. So I believe what they wanted to do is have me not accept. You can't really sit down right on the old days. They did sit down a little bit I said, we gotta stand up. So I had like 10, 12 guys, right, in the primary.
2:25:04 The closest guy to me, I'm like 60 points, 70 points higher. Yeah, the Republican primaries. It was very funny. good basketball player but you know that was the and when I said that that place I did it because she was... A large audience and then they probably thought you would stack the deck. Well how did I do with the Al Smith dinner? I got very good reviews on that.
2:27:07 this guy. right? But he said, this McDonald's thing, I want to tell you, it's one of the biggest things Secret Service was not exactly thrilled, which is 15 minutes more than she worked here He's... And it's the exact opposite. I came out immediately strongly in favor. And they do ads, I'm against it, it's wrong. she wants to confiscate. There's a certain percentage of our population
2:29:50 Okay, you have a wall or you have a... The oldest, those are the oldest. Like what is the idea? How about what happened about the amount of money that they've given them when they've come here the food stamps the benefits that even our poor He gets in, by the way I called it. Oh, I did. I have books on it. And by the way, books have been written on it.
2:32:16 to turn over an election. So, Elon Musk — While he's doing Starlink, while he's doing Tesla, while he owns Twitter. We should go to paper ballots. And they make paper ballots, At a you know at the level that the president has power. Well, if I win that'll be this will be my last election You know, I went to the voting booth the last time, I mean, if you want it to be dishonest,
2:35:09 The one thing with Jimmy Carter, he had a very strong commission. to watch. You know what? You'd call them, they'd call them in this issue. They were afraid to go out, you know We had we were in the middle of kovat Are she just ridiculous the idea you have an idea to get a driver's license The Democrat National Convention, when they had it the last time I saw, they had a sign
2:37:37 for a vote, it's supposed to be a sacred thing, and it should be a sacred thing. No voter Democrats, they say yes. Have you ever? At a property I own in California, And I took a picture and I sent it. Now, unless you're going to cheat in elections, you've got to let the world come into our country. We used to, you know where you have to look? they're almost making on trafficking now.
2:40:40 Who wants this? It's the most basic thing there is. smart in terms of politics in a way, my life I grew up with politicians, lower taxes. She's politic in that we are going And they're like, yeah, our problems are that these rich people are not paying taxes. I don't know him. are honest. I agree. He's a good person. So they called me. that I don't have to necessarily know about,
2:44:47 I think it's fine. there's people that were implicated in the assassination. I can't tell you whether or not they're There's a lot of interest in it. I have never been a believer. I've had a couple in here. And they said, we saw things, sir, that were very strange. Was this your personal interest? There's no reason not to. time ago that could support life.
2:48:16 Well, that's a lot of the speculation too, that some of these drones that hover over They said, sir, there's something there. They don't know what it is. Survive. Oh, so what is that and we don't it doesn doesn't have a heat signature, they don't know what their propulsion system was, but... But these things that these people are encountering are far superior to what we know of.
2:50:22 You know if you look at him he told Israel not to do anything, And I think it was a very, you know, it's a very, Nuclear weapons and we have other weapons too that are devastated that it seems we are on for World War III? Who's winning, who's not winning? would get both of them I know both very well and and again I cannot I do not I stopped other wars just by the use of tariffs.
2:53:39 I said, Emmanuel, if you do that, I'm going to put a 100% tariff when your wines and champagnes are coming They don't know how to talk. Look, they met in Alaska with the Chinese, and the Chinese lectured them about how badly we treat and they're very tricky and evil and dangerous. because we have a pot of gold. knock it. Like wouldn't it be better to have an American made iPhone where you know people are paid
2:56:24 chip companies here, and they're not borrow the money and build chip companies here. The mob makes you pay money, right? And they said, will you protect us from Russia if we don't? All you have to do is build your plant in the United States. the process of making a huge speech in about a little while. And you and I, how long have I'm gonna blame you. I spoke to this guy for three hours