Joe Rogan Experience #2221 — JD Vance Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. It's pretty weird. It's pretty weird. So he asked me the Monday of the RNC convention, I get a text message from a staff member on his team that says you just missed a very And the funny thing is, you know, And I, you know, Trump hears my son in the background until the statement is actually out. he's like, I have no idea what the hell's going on.

2:39 but hadn't actually met him until the rally at MSG. Well, that's the only one's seven-year-olds remember. She had an amazing she was an amazing person a huge personality, right? We called her a force of nature because she was such this this big personality I go oh we forgot to put the helmet away, and she just looks out the helmet she goes shit and we're on like a Delta flight, we're in the back,

5:05 And like 12 people instantly turn around and look at me. Yeah, it's so funny. dramatically. and he gets out of there. So I was down to Mar-a-Lago talking to him. from North America's number one sports book. okay, obviously, this is a big, it's a big thing, right? I might, you know, talked about it or say something, you know, nice, I mean, it's it's it's been I mean look in some ways

8:05 Well, yeah. But it's definitely weird to just not be anonymous Now, it requires we have to notify Secret Service. everybody's like, well, who the hell is this? It's what I ask for. just accept it like this is how life is now? Well it's, you just, you have to accept it, oh, we're not going into our car, Um, but we're watching some show on Netflix, They're all of these these small little adjustments

11:21 Like they're playing Secret Service now in their school. Is, like, did you have presidential aspirations before all this? right? It's just things you think about but you never really think that hard Yeah, exactly. in a Butler PA was the first time ever been have you read this conversation with trump in the on the I mean he talked about ten different people that he was thinking about naming.

14:09 have to say about this conversation? if we just made the decision today? And then he's like, ah, no, I'm not gonna do it up there. We need to prepare for it better. we were at a mini golf place in Cincinnati, Ohio. I didn't know who else was being selected. Well they got into his phone. Didn't they got into his phone. Um, didn't they? it. The place is scrubbed.

17:05 Yeah. There's a lot of really big questions that we should be asking. Well, he was walking around the area with a rangefinder me and I hope that we win and then get to the bottom of it because I think At the very last second he turns his head to look at the chart and the bullet just grazes It's the luckiest of luckiest shots ever for him. Unfortunately not for the people that are behind him.

19:13 if you were faking something like that. Yeah, that barely missed him. we usually have the person's manifesto out there. Yes a day or two later It's pretty wild. And yeah, I mean, that guy- If there's any other ideology that led someone to mass murder, you would examine that ideology violence against these other people because they're the oppressors, even though they're

21:21 that's in this house we believe, is it's so similar to the creed and then there's of course the various rituals and it you actually start to notice the similarities He's a fascinating guy. I'll never forget, he sent me something like six or so years ago. And it was Elizabeth Warren when she was running for president and she was like, We just wanted to be left the hell alone.

23:45 We just wanted to be left the hell alone corporations once pharmaceutical corporations have the criticism that was made of American healthcare, But then sometimes they'll try to manipulate government policy later disavowed our friendship And now the only people who are raising concerns about it are conservative Republicans. that are lobbying to have, you know, child

26:52 are very easily influenced and that children We've completely changed the way we think that children, oh they just know. when you're a little kid. Why are you letting them just change their gender? What does this even mean? Which is crazy. Like my four-year-old will come and say, they want their kid to be a part of the LGBTQ thing There has to be some reason why this enormous percentage

29:08 And we have to be honest about that fact. lot more than we are right now and unfortunately I mean here's one thing that's available in the hyper woke mindset is if you become gender non-binary. at rationalizing these things. to try to say, oh, my God, does that mean that my kid is trans? who didn't say, oh, like, sometimes I had some, you know, Yes.

32:17 I had my testicles removed, radical advocates of trans healthcare do not say that, right? Because look, I mean, you have sexual it does make people behave religiously. How is it everywhere? You can just identify and you can compete as a girl. compete with their teenage girl in competitive sports, tournament in England, it's a woman's pool tournament and in the semi-finals

35:20 I mean, go back to the original reason Right? Like, I'm the father of a two-year-old daughter. Yeah, and he's changing in the same locker room as them and then it's crazy the problem with that is and you're a bigot if you don't let them change at the Paris Air Show who was from Mississippi, you know what's really interesting she says senator Vance I'm embarrassed to tell you this but when I was in New York City recently

38:21 I feel like you should be allowed to wear a miniskirt. If that's what you're doing, you're a pervert. I kind of wish that was the attitude that we had in the United like if you're allowing guys to just have their balls that led me back to my own faith. What is, you know, most world religions have, we're going to be forgiving. We want people to be able to live together. There is this

41:12 if you think they're only ever wrong, Yes. thing and like go guns a blazing, you're gonna have to get drugs involved. Like foreign things into the human body. but why are if you're aligned with Trump, like RFK Jr. is, now all of a sudden I've seen, like, people Even being healthy. That's kind of a belief that I have but it's interesting that the environmental movement in America

45:15 you have this terrible train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio. Got a lot of into the air, into the soil. I'm seeing this concept that being pushed out of also profit that's being made off the green movement. garbage, that stuff is garbage, a highly processed garbage. If you want to eat When I first started dating my wife, and I stuck in the oven for 45 minutes.

48:21 it's broccoli and it's bread, right? And then I find out that they have a ton of money Russia, which is like the dumbest thing in the world to me. Like I don't really care about Russia else to buy Russian natural gas and they realize that if the Germans and French close down OK. It must be, I don't know where it is but, your foot's not touching it.

51:03 Jamie, you gotta replace this. I keep saying that but now you really do is heavily funded by the Russians This is, Look at you. you get dumped on by one of the smartest guys alive but point is like Bill in the entire, this massive Euro complex, that I'm on this panel with is the leader of the German Green Party. I mean Bill Gates, you know, like, maybe he's a good guy.

54:20 Maybe we should be skeptical of the people You made $500 million do that? That's right. So one of the things that happened that separated us from the rest of the world other than New Do you think that you would have enough support to do something like that. So I've been critical of pharmaceutical advertising See them when I'm watching football, I'm always shocked

56:44 and be depressed, so you'll need this other drug. conversations with your doctor just because they advertise, they've essentially bribed you. And I just kind of ran into him and you know I care a lot about the opioid problem that they could actually insulate themselves from litigation around the prescription opioid epidemic. I'm very curious if this actually happened. Look into it.

1:00:01 Is that it? We're good? has changed the mindset of the Republican Party to where it was like instinctively always pro-corporate I think is a very good trend for us. Yeah, put up some nets so that people can't commit suicide. Strange Bedfellas, Native American tribes, It's so gross. I don't want them anywhere near my kids. You gotta put guardrails up like you have to have laws

1:03:57 but I think is much different in the last few years. totally insane. And I mean, you know, so I took the Vax and, you know, I haven't been boosted or anything, to talk about that, even, I was like, the fact that we're not even allowed to talk about that, And you don't even, you know, everybody that I know, of lying and being forced to pay criminal fines,

1:06:17 these things that disturb us, an interesting thought experiment. If there was one thing that we could do into this whole scam. have been vaccine injured, and particularly people on the left, they're very reluctant to discuss it, But here's the thing, like, I'm not even, you're probably more anti-pharma than I am. Like there are certain things- black American just walk out of the hospital and he's probably cured of sickle cell disease.

1:08:57 so that they don't get sued. not by doing, like, weird psychotic things with Native American tribes. And you can't have this It's one of the biggest problems with corporate America Think of the healthcare costs, is because they're privatizing the rewards this is one of my biggest frustrations, probably my single biggest frustration okay, a guy drinks the water in East Palestine

1:11:45 I pray every day that hopefully not, talking about like fingernail clippings, things like that. You'd establish a baseline of toxins And of course, how much would this have cost get the money to do the very small amount of money to do that study then so you there's lobbyists who are in their ear. road. We couldn't get anything from them. And I think it was just they were like, eh, we've got bigger fester fry.

1:14:20 Yeah, oh each car has And we don't even know what the health consequences are because here's what's gonna happen, right? And what Norfolk Southern will say is, no, you don't. the first, not the first, but the first disaster that we have. Like how would you well it's test the groundwater to make sure that doesn't to their credit You'd have to remove the ground and clean it.

1:16:59 the levels of toxins are gonna kill you. The question is, is the water safe to drink What can be done to sort of shore that up? Some some offensive memes and you know me me telling my wife to get an extra gallon of milk at the grocery store So I'm pretty careful about like making sure I use signal that they hacked and it was also President Trump's phone apparently too

1:19:31 and that's how they got into the AT&T network. What a great name by the way, Salt Typhoon. is really preoccupied with this. It's actually a scandal, I think, that a lot of people probably weren't aware of pollution. When I see those gigantic wind tunnels. they're ugly. They're gross. They're ugly. I don't want them in American society and nuclear power plants are actually more efficient safer

1:22:45 We're brainwashed to think that these things somehow or another are beneficial because they're attached to this idea are pretty significant. like in deserts and things like that. you're really ruining the landscape, And again, it's, we focus on the carbon footprint thing, and we don't It shows that over the last X amount of thousands of years, we're in a gradual cooling period

1:24:56 are like when there's an ice age. And of course, you still have terrible things like Hurricane Helene, but they are luckily Well, the poison rocks problem is a less significant problem of any country in the entire world. greenery than there was a hundred years ago. That's interesting. Not only that, you got Bill Gates that's saying That is crazy. there's a fundamentally anti-human element

1:28:09 Did you just say that out loud? a DPT vaccine that they were giving to girls in Africa that was just birth control. It This is dark shit. It's like, they gave him polio. That is so dark, man. Okay, so you're in Africa, some white dude shows up, 30, 40 years because people are so pissed off about us coming in and giving them health not getting the food

1:31:17 in 30 years? Yeah, you have to have some you have that guardrails and regulations to keep these people from just never-ending profits you get to do whatever the hell you want? Logic is it's a problem when you have ideologies and logic is a colonial idea man Oh yeah, sure. Okay. I watched the movie a ton when I was like eight, nine years old oh, that's maybe the first place that I ever heard

1:33:51 of the philosophy of this movie is Well, math is racist is one of those ones where you, So, okay, by the way, this is my, you know, He was like Hunter S. Thompson without the writing talent. on his dad voting for Donald Trump for president, He put on the MAGA hat- I have to use the restroom. and told him that it was Russian disinformation. a lie. Under a lie and 51 former intelligence agents signed off on this. It was like, how

1:37:08 about the media conversation around what happened in 2020. What they'll do is they'll sort of find That was the fun part. was 88,000 votes that were the difference I've never had a problem with him, And I think fundamentally, if they had not done what they did, Donald Trump would have no way to get ahead other than hard work. Well have you seen all these studies

1:40:00 That's an interesting observation. of that. There's no other way to excel at martial arts Absolutely. Yeah cocktail parties are a mess after that in Marin County but then sometimes I see what David says, what I would call foreign policy realism. a legal document that talks about the role of government and censorship and sort of prohibits as a legal document itself.

1:43:39 It's so subjective and the marks are moving as to what's called hate speech now. You used to get banned for life from Twitter Yeah. calling people Nazis or endorsing explicit censorship, we're not trying to We're gonna, or Hillary Clinton's saying that we want to censor I would call them corporate they don't care at all. that have control over what is presented as fact. Yes. And they're not always honest or accurate.

1:47:00 It's crazy. and he's trying to like, a weird coronavirus and had like fallen into a guy's soup to talk about this. Agree. Well, I think when Elon purchased Twitter, it changed the entire game, because now you they just decided they were controlling the discourse well then you have no like they were on Twitter, then they get infiltrated with all this hate shit and then it becomes

1:50:25 They did all this stuff and it turned out that all the things they were saying were either lies or were incorrect. People are just abandoning this, like I can't talk to you people. their mind. a lot of them are trying to reimpose that social trust from the top, not recognizing that that high in our schools? is degrading social trust by trying to create it

1:52:58 know Jeff super well. I've always liked him and my interactions with him. But the problem with the be a propaganda outlet of the Democratic Party. If you look from the Hunter Biden laptop to any What matters is do they hold their journalism to anything like a high standard. And if they next to an argument for Donald Trump, with his tight shirts on.

1:55:19 Okay, so Matt is, even though he writes for Breitbart, and I know that most people assume he has allies on Capitol Hill. But that is what it would look like, in these media outlets as there is on Trump's? better is they basically just edited her answer down a lot so that she didn't sound like a total insane person because what aired I think on the smaller

1:57:12 But let me see, let me see what, attitude would be just release the transcript, let people see what she 143 on MSNBC 101, on ABC on NBC 32 and on CBS 31 in two days Now, what's the difference? I mean, here, let me, I don't know if Jamie can bring this up, but I tweeted about this last night that Politico, when they have initially tried to write the story about what had been said by Joe Biden, they said that Biden had called racism against Puerto Ricans garbage. Well,

2:00:07 and why didn't you talk about it earlier? Help her out! That's very good. Well, but there's actually, okay, I mean, I give a lot of speeches, so there's actually a skill to without actually saying anything, ours or vice versa, right? and that the media machine in just a few days Well, it's also part of the process where you identify people's flaws, you figure out

2:03:13 And if you just look at Donald Trump's public schedule, JD Vance's public schedule versus So you're just prepping her? and said that Doug Emhoff, Kamala Harris' husband, smacked her in the face in France. that usually doesn't stop with one person. the American media picks it up and runs with This is why you need good reporters one of the reasons why I'm happy to be here. But you don't have like a person

2:06:01 us is they've got an army of people investigating me and Donald Trump. There's no one really investigating Kamala Harris. But the reach is much less. But if you look, man, like you're still getting But more importantly in some ways is, Donald Trump for an hour. Fox News would do that for Kamala Harris, and they did do that No. It's one of the reasons why the movement is so, the movement

2:08:53 him up, that way we're gonna keep him from being in the office. or they kind of qualify it a little bit. And I go to the bathroom and the Oreos Right? So that's the way that Kamala Harris lies, Kamala Harris is saying that Donald Trump wants to take away your second-amidnt rights Contempt of Congress. Eric Holder, who was Obama's attorney general, was found in contempt

2:11:26 They held him in contempt of Congress and they threw him in prison for it. he gets back in the office that he's going to start investigating a lot of that's gonna reveal what the elements people who maybe perjured themselves, or at least unethically lied. Well, one of the things that he's talked about pretty openly is that he could have gone after said, you know what, it's bad for the country. A lot of my voters would love me to prosecute

2:14:15 If I'm correct your position and this is what they wanted when they overturned Roe v If Roe versus Wade goes away, desire for us to just stop having a culture war over this particular issue and to let making. And I think, you I think having children has been the wrong out-of-network health care provider when you're at the moment of delivering a baby.

2:17:07 For most people, I think one of the issues is, for a lot of people, one of the issues have an abortion but they could be possibly life begins at the moment of conception. that you could be prosecuted for it in your state I haven't heard of them doing it either. a number of non-religious people who are very pro-life. we don't just mean pro-birth. I would say that it's a human life

2:21:06 Florida, Ohio, Alabama, we're going to have different solutions to this particular problem. outright. That's the autonomy value. I get it, man. I get it. And I think that there is a very So what are we doing then? something has a heartbeat, sure. hear people on the left say, well, late-term abortion doesn't happen. Well, there's an Right. But again, it's not my decision as the vice president or, and that's not President

2:24:55 When his brain wasn't fried and he he said abortion should be safe legal and rare But you do sometimes see people, like they were completely trapped They recognize that this is a medical procedure, and this is, you know, Wade, always been the law of the land. I think every argument of the pro-choice side, Yeah, right. because I'm saying, oh, it's just people celebrating.

2:27:47 and indoctrinate your kids. I just try as hard as I can to remember that most Americans, the importance of regaining trust is just, And this is what they're operating off of. That's absolutely right. And this like the one thing that people are worried about right after Roe v. Wade was gay marriage, and gay marriage laws. And people were thinking, but the avenue to make abortion policy should be legislatures, not judges. So it was a procedural

2:30:51 come in and tell me what to do. Like in my home, I'd like to be able to raise my You hear people say these things. Again, I think it's the crazies. It's not the majority that would cry against the concept of Islamophobia really need to understand what that means Like, is it Minneapolis? Yeah, that's very scary. I've never had any interest in doing that. But where you see actual real religious tyranny is increasingly in Western

2:34:01 I've ever said is what what is the first Islamist? Right? Because it's important to separate. There are Muslims who are not Islamists, That to me is really crazy and really scary. of the people, but Pakistan isn't going and saying, we need to like conquer the infidels, And these religious doctrines could be woke. permitting 5 million or 50 million immigrants, and importantly, where are the

2:36:46 No, it's just common sense. I mean, let me sort of give you a very specific example, okay? who does America benefit from bringing into this country? And if the answer is we don't benefit, When you tell, one of the wildest ones, it's only a couple of apartment complexes, right? No recourse no tracking. You can't do anything about you see this in some communities were because they're small towns and because

2:39:27 because we've overwhelmed the local hospital system. for American citizens. you know what, no, no, no, talking point. That maximum cap is called catch and release. Donald Trump's policy was you have to wait in Mexico. We're not So it wasn't a border security bill, it was an amnesty bill. fought against it. And I think it was good on you in the debate with Tim Walz when they fact-checked you.

2:43:25 number of people that have moved to swing states, which is also like a little suspicious? got millions of illegal aliens, okay, let me tell you a story. In 2017-2018, when I was in the private sector, I was at is because Donald Trump's border policies monopoly man, evil shit that this guy admitted to. don't want to pay American workers higher wages.

2:45:55 And the only way to get them on your side would be the Republicans offer the same services Exactly. And we saw this. And look, I'm like a Reagan guy, right? I'm a conservative Republican. at the 1986 amnesty, California is now effectively But even if you don't give people the right to vote, is that you try to draw them evenly based on population so that everybody has equal representation, right?

2:48:23 American citizens. Well, donald trump tried a proposal that Democrats went nuts over and litigated, was litigated are not counted for purposes of congressional representation. it still counts as congressional seats. Correct. That's kind of crazy. Which is crazy. Which is totally insane. But my view, and I'm sure you got many, many listeners And there's also something implicitly very racist

2:50:25 But they're basically saying that black people can't get identification. that they know to be illegitimate well they're saying that there's a certain off the Virginia voter rolls, There's no argument that makes any sense. Well, as President Trump says, we want to make it too big to rig. voters that we ensure that we get the representative government that we

2:53:28 been alleviated of all these. MDMA. studies, but they've also shown it with like anecdotally, I know a bunch of different guys something that anyone Silscibans, mushrooms, right? Yeah, but yet federally illegal and if you go to the history of why it was federally legal in the first place and that's where the Reef of Madness films came up, In fact, the term marijuana was never used for cannabis, which has been used for thousands

2:56:34 So they started writing these stories people stopped using hemp as much because it's much more difficult to work with, and they started using cotton for clothing. goes into full scale and then this was in the 1930s. So they start, here it is, the The first draft, the Declaration of Independence was written on hemp. They used to use it for And even though you have medical marijuana that's been showed to help people with chemotherapy

2:59:14 Like keep it in your home. I don't like smelling it when I take my kids to the park, right? And I wonder you know to your point about consent and the brain's development and all to some public policy. You have to be careful with this stuff, especially six days from an election. Yes. And it's also the way it's scheduled. Why aren't we doing that or are we doing that? I'm just not aware of it.

3:01:52 freedom. And I believe in the freedom to explore things that have great benefits. And I keep going and then they're supposed to just acclimate. Yeah, and there's no guidelines We talked about like foreign policy and veteran stuff, and there's no help, at least for those people. to have a profound psychological change that doesn't require them to be on these things

3:04:20 a part of what's going on here. It's what they say is, well, every other country has mental health, meaning advocates of strict So clearly there's something with mental health treatment Everybody wants to blame. I know it man. Oh, yeah, like that's crazy because you can find out what the numbers Yeah, the idea that you can gun regulate your way out of this problem is ridiculous

3:06:11 It also ignores me. It's really good. Actually mass shooters. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, I did know that actually that when we talk about gun violence problem the problem. I'm trying to find so that time is that central time, right? It's 1219 right now We probably like 15, 20 more minutes because I have to do this event with Tulsi in Pennsylvania. OK. What are you doing with Tulsi?

3:08:34 Well, that was one of the most insane things Agent Hillary Clinton by the way who's not served in the military at all that have no connection to our national interest. I mean, this is the biggest difference, I Everything is good. get really fired up. stake in Halliburton. they're gonna they're gonna do it as much as they can even though I think more regional conflict, and I think these guys bought the idea so profoundly that

3:12:23 The engineer behind the Iraq war is responsible for how many people dead? Democrat or Republican. We destroyed that, and we created in Iraq, effectively, everybody was an American, we were all on the same team, Democrat or Republican, we destroyed that and we created in Iraq effectively a proxy of Iran, which it's telling now that The undecided voters tend to be voters who are more aligned with us.

3:14:23 why would we make a person who's terrified because there are a lot of ways in which Democrats are gonna try to motivate their base down the stretch