Joe Rogan Experience #2225 — Dave Smith Transcript
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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience Shenanigans and bullshit, and it's just a puppet show and there's no way anybody could buck this system turns out especially in the close of the campaign, what you saw everywhere. no, this is the closest election of your lifetime. Joy Reid spent the entire time she was discussing Trump the other day comparing him to Mussolini,
2:54 it's a daunting task. He was telling me about the thousands and thousands of appointments he had to should have known. They were at the meeting they were willing to talk to Donald Trump and then John Bolton came in and they were like this guy What and wasn't that just one of the it was what there's obviously a huge series of these things where the is the thing we want it to be.
5:21 like it's not 2024. Like we didn't all grow up on Don Rickles and we all know exactly what Tony Hinchcliffe is doing Metzger look at this from say even 2016 to now. Now that to me was so wild. Anti-black and anti gay I stuck right behind him me and cam Hanes and I think Tony was there too and we were just this is for the United States? You get Tulsi Gabbard you get Elon Musk and you get JD Vance you get brilliant people who aren't
10:10 That's gonna be for the good of everybody. Yeah, and he's got an unite people This isn't 2016 where, you know, I think hasn't you know finished yet? as hard as anyone except Tony Hinchcliffe last night. It's Hillary Clinton's pick for defense secretary. And that's what you ran on and won on I Lindsey Graham ran for president. cause he was like attacking Donald Trump
13:48 President yeah, never married and he goes he goes he goes there might be a bunch of different first ladies if I was it and shit and high heels. And that really was his failure It's like, Mr. President, if you're listening, These are the America first guys, okay? But his rhetoric on Israel has been very bad. He advocated we had the regime change in Libya, in Syria.
16:32 Yeah. Possibilities for it, and I think that that's a huge component of it, I love the guy don't get me wrong. No me too, and I'm a little bit obsessed with demons They're like we can only really scratch people Tucker thinks aliens are demons like I was saying, the protesters aren't there anymore. that was the best thing that ever happened to CNN and MSNBC. But he was saying, well no Dave, I mean look, last time he was in for four years,
19:22 was that they had the biggest scandal Like that's the biggest scandal in the history of America. And you had the former CIA director, John Brennan, saying that Trump and his family Yeah. You want to talk about misinformation. And didn't just turn out it wasn't true, And listen, a few episodes back, They omitted the fact that the CIA had already told him
22:04 Whoa, so they which is technically true. The news media. and the American people said, we already get that. It was working for Trump when she's calling him a right wing dictator, comparing You ever see that? The narrative. stepped in line to help them take them out. You know what I'm saying? I mean did they think that one? Italian and I'm Italian Italians and Puerto Ricans have a lot in common that we talk a lot of shit to each other
25:31 It's also, my wife is Italian and her, all my in-laws, their whole family is Italian. and you were like in the next room, It's one of my favorite things It all goes the landfill Which is always like the best comedy when you're just being funny Yeah, the most difficult setup. And then like, as it starts, you're like, It's like, listen, man, there's gonna be some people
28:46 Alright, let's get to the bottom of it. Wait, we have access. She says that she was there and now their voices are quieted, thank God. It's not they they're not, the overflowing land, you ever see it? which is what it is I've been to kill Tony shows I'm from the Bronx I don't should be able to respectfully disagree and have conversations with things.
32:39 Come on, bro, like we and what are we doing? then he's a comedian so he's like I'm gonna do what I do here with it you know Yes, but that's kind of, that's on the campaign. if you were to look at, say, Apologizing to every car that passes them. I don't know. Let's pause for a second and compare This is what happens in dictatorships. felonies which weren't felonies and we're past the statute of limitations so
35:54 a felony. President-elect Donald Trump dude. He he came to the Libertarian Party convention He was guilty of creating a website. He's good do it on day one and I'm just saying we a lot of people supported him for that. I really Well, look, now that we know what we know now, like the FBI did this whole internal Game of Dungeons and Dragons in the woods. They're idiots. Well, it's it there's an old saying people
39:19 Like, it was never gonna happen. How do you feel about American foreign policy look at all these innocent Muslims that were killing over there in that part of the world You know that's America's money and weapons I bet it's wildly different, and I wouldn't be surprised if he got railroaded just we know too much now Then they say they're preventing crime
41:31 so I'm kind of personally invested in him, Do you think he has the balls to pardon Snowden? Well, okay a bunch of illegal shit that we are lying to the American people about and then you it's obviously the right thing to do, morally speaking, Well, let's just face, let's look at this for what it is. that seems like a crazy thing to support. Even for them to defend it sounds insane. illegal things and don't want to have any repercussions for doing illegal things.
44:08 Surveillance to be done warrantless Yeah, well, and also, and one of the things And people convinced him not to do it. But he was worried about the impeachment and he wanted to run again. Yes. He always wanted to run again Yes, he's got an opportunity now where I just a lot of things have aligned And it's only made him more popular. Have you seen it, Jamie?
47:30 on a second, I'll find it. It's so crazy. You look at it and you go, is this real? Oh, there was only like 200 million people in this country. Yeah, and and to be clear 2012 and 2016 were not low turnout He got even more in 2020 than he did in 2024. to even ask this question? There's a guy who drops it off, and then the postman gets it. Who knows what the fuck that guy does it?
50:08 He has Newman's a postman and he's like, you don't like, and then one day like, garbage. If somebody, if you're a cab driver from some other country and Election fraud well to pretend that we lie about the very fine people He said there were very fine people on both sides Obama's lying about that in front of the whole world That's what they were telling us, that it was 50-50.
52:15 If Adolf Hitler was about to win, Break the rules to stop Hitler? You're supposed to say I would murder baby Hitler. Fix that little fucker. Right. Here's one of the most important precedents. She dropped off a cliff and that was done, and that's how it should have been until Biden You can't have someone bypass that because you have a complete puppet.
54:41 Well, they've been so used to doing it before. They had full, complete control of the narrative because they own the media. That people gonna make YouTube clips showing what he actually said versus you and it's gonna undermine your credibility even more that there are some people who are like, no, How many times do I need to say that? And after he had done it like maybe 100 times,
57:04 it's like someone coming into MMA And you saw, there was a lot of evidence of this. And this is the idea is that you're never gonna get And Trump, whether even intentionally or not, things that Donald Trump did, which obviously, look, And, dude, I mean, Trump coming on here Well, for sure, him getting to be himself and just have a conversation with someone who's
59:32 the there's Holocaust deniers number one and then there's maybe And you get put into a box, like instantaneously. She was you said yes to it. Yes, I did when And I think Vivek could do that. Right, no, I'm saying if he was accused. Yes, listen, Trump is different than Vivek and JD. the way CNN would ask it. We're like, sure does look strange. And so in that environment, it's very easy.
1:03:07 And she's wrong, he wasn't cheating that Friday. then you shut down the economy, by censoring it off all the social media sites. You kind of can't say that unless you got something to really present. And the way you should say it is by presenting the evidence. It must be. he say? Let's find out what his statements were. See if we can find it. of Georgia's anti-raconteering law,
1:06:14 lies made her fear for her life. So what the fuck did he say? And again, Rudy Giuliani is a lawyer. So there might still be more millions They're charging 14% in state taxes, No, they can't do anything. It's such a goofy state just overburdened with regulations. You can't even have the whole, like, war on tobacco, the most unhealthy country. Occasionally.
1:09:42 This is another company, Lucy's. Right here, we're in Texas. But you're not allowed to have a cinnamon Zin because you're too much of a fucking baby. You can't control yourself everyone's unhealthy. It's just, man, one thing, and I'm really, really glad It's like how is everyone not talking about this? are not eligible for the military. but then we try to regulate vapes. Yeah
1:13:11 people. That's a big one. What does it say about mental though? Mental health and overweight conditions? that makes you ineligible. She sent me this video that she posted. I can't remember where we were. And I'm literally sit down, it's so powerful that I sit down and I'm just watching this I'm sitting in my hotel room crying about these kids. what is it then? And why are you not interested in this? Why are they the only ones who are
1:16:54 So just like explain it to me like I'm really really stupid talk slowly. Okay, I can understand where if you're talking about 1940s or in the 1950s if someone was nonverbal so much of this is, it's one of the things Yeah. and there may be something that, if investigated, And they can't be liable for those side effects the vaccine passports, and the logic would just fall apart on its face. Like you're like, they were trying to push the COVID passports, the vaccine passports,
1:19:35 who are vaccinated in this restaurant are safe and Bobby Kennedy's a kook, then why do they need the liability protection? a scientific paper that I posted like D early into the pandemic that said this and people There's no fucking answer. Yeah, and I think I got here in a kind of similar way to you, And that the whole clinical trials were totally rigged
1:22:17 well, you know how that was all bullshit? They were trying to silence them. Like, are you a doctor? which is, that was a great, still probably one of my all-time favorite about a product that Americans are being forced to take. workplace safety, like just the most blatantly unconstitutional proposal, And so like, okay, you can demonize Donald Trump
1:24:46 and beat it real quickly before we ever got vaccinated And he had no answer for you. you gonna get vaccinated now? Are you guys out of your fucking mind? That was one of my favorite homeboy But the fact that you checked him in real time, and he just had to sit there and eat it And I think you beat the fuck out of him in that debate. You're pretty good at debates.
1:27:20 isn't that I'm like the smartest guy or the best at debates. should drop out of the race or not. I, yeah, we had our thing, I gave him a beating, Like, I'm not on their side. it's like they lie about everything, America has this giant war machine, right? interventions in there too, you know the UN to death in Iraq. And you, everybody in the corporate media, are in the business. Every
1:30:49 even before they played that clip that sunned him and man, it was getting me angry. Could you just set someone up for a better, like. Are you sure? It's gonna cause a horrible side effect. in that debate. I still would have been harsh on him, for your podcast numbers and stuff, Which is, but you know, like you know me, I don't do that. Yeah. like bring in bigger numbers or something like that.
1:33:54 The whatever if you're on Fox or if you're on CBC To never consider This was before I had kids. It might have been on Netflix or something. there is no moral issue with having an abortion. and not admit that like, oh, the United States of America, and not only did we not cover it, number one concern. What was the only political issue for them. The number one concern.
1:36:58 and everything gets crazy. And he's like, more conspiracies. be taken away. Why? And if you disagree, please unfollow me. Kurt says good news. If she got all like in some sort of a weird dystopian way, I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to do it, and I'm not a woman. Sharia law or whatever the fuck it is you you cannot do that. Men would be outraged. If women were forcing it on men, we have low population,
1:39:19 Men would be outraged. That's the whole idea of one country. than half the wars we have going on right now to carry a baby to term. And I would never dream of like forcing, But I will say that one of the things that always like I find striking to me is that It's a very libertarian argument, You know what I'm saying? and you want to stop them from doing that or prosecute them
1:43:05 It also, it seems- Because again, like it's, Because again, you go to a state so that seems unworkable to me. want to get your dick tattooed, whatever you want to get. You want to get forehead implants Yeah, I mean, I think that the reasonable compromise to the Supreme Court anyway, because it's such a precedent Discover what you did in some other state like shut up
1:45:46 You barely have enough time to realize you're pregnant or you can get prosecuted. Yeah, Louis CK had a great one, too I just think this is the case and it's a little confusing. Lizell Gonzalez, who spent two nights in jail on the murder charges seeking $1 million in was treated at Texas Hospital where in one of those states, that's where women get really freaked out that Roe v. Wade was
1:48:59 You know what I mean? And it's very difficult. You know, that you got married at 19 or 20. where most people are getting married at 35 the only political winner that they had. that his wife got pregnant through in vitro fertilization, He was an assistant coach. and an incredibly talented politician, So he picked Joe Biden as his VP. You know what I mean?
1:52:22 You know what's crazy is that this was, I think anybody's lifetime. There's a guy who went to who was raised by a single parent Who was a drug addict and ended up serving the country going to an Ivy League school becoming a venture capitalist becoming a senator He's got a very high verbal IQ, clearly. four years ago, she walked away from every position
1:54:10 And if you were like, hey dude, you used to believe this, She went, my values haven't changed. What happened? So let's just fucking gaslight the shit out of half the country and run with it and also see how far we can take Yeah, it's a really really good point. I've always thought there was something about like um with going up in front of a group of people
1:56:31 Like Jeb Bush, okay, he's the son of a president, Right. to just nuke everybody. sharp. She was the original Fox fembot. She was the original super hot woman on Fox who then he dropped a bunch of f-bombs and I thought I really enjoy this feeling of Was over the lamest thing. I forget even the comment something about blackface Halloween costume What does that mean really?
2:00:36 the last, really over the last couple of years, I guess, and it's really on display with the to eat meat every time I look at him, like I'm very concerned. yeah, things aren't quite as crazy as they were then, direction for society. for substantially more than a person paid for It's wonderful when the grift gets exposed. I think- It's not even that Netflix changed their mind and they're willing to have these guys on because they had like some ideological
2:03:23 I just mean the left-wing 20-year-old useful idiots Joe Biden's central pitch to America was a return to normalcy. oh my God, Trump is crazy. And by the way, okay, I'm not campaigning. Did someone die from COVID that went to one of his events? Is Ben Carson dead? whether he got it there or whatever? They're all in tight proximity to each other, you got the painting with Jesus behind him with his hands on his shoulders
2:06:00 was like, the problem is Trump. But then what happened is Joe Biden came in, He's going to be Adolf Hitler in there. I'm the only one making this point genocide and it's very hard to get someone who's been protesting babies Israel, forget invading Lebanon or going to war with Iran. there's no way that the US isn't implicated. that you're not hearing on TV anymore and they get shared. Even if it's just shared
2:09:18 you know, the way they talk about you, right winger, really? And you guys are going to act like you're the grownups in the room? Yep, that's right. Video that I posted when I posted Elon on the podcast between me and him. It got 65 million views in a day It's a great way to find out what's real and what's not real and then you look in the comments take podcasts out he doesn't win at all. You take him being on Theo Vaughn, him
2:12:31 So I've literally I've watched this happen and I know you have to where the the Bill Maher compared him to Christopher Hitchens. Yeah, I'm not even saying there weren't other factors involved, but there were a bunch of people like that who got removed He was like the most Googled man for kickboxing. Manosphere influencer I was like, okay that kind of tracks kind of makes sense, right, right
2:14:55 No. They go nuts when Tony's this is the new dynamic now been in comedy that and then having you just do, Yeah, like take this moment and create a bit out of it. Oh, dude. I all this and I was like, what the fuck happened here? And it's just something beautiful. I've gotten like messages and tweets and stuff like that, You don't get a whole lot of moments like that
2:18:08 You think a 78-year-old guy is gonna allow some dude to get to the bottom of that stuff. There's just something that just doesn't add up and sunglasses and a hoodie. who would dress like this. who's like in full disguise with gloves. It is covering everything else up though, he's somewhere okay, he's got his yeah I see why you thought that though. It's a weird. It's a weird look for sure well. He's he's covering his fucking hands
2:20:47 and then the excuses that they made where he barricaded himself, I thought that was just something Bush lied about. and is going back and forth to an active war zone, that if you call the guy Hitler every day, And then there is apps, And when you have a guy, you know, like I'm not saying I've got like a case I could present in front of a jury and get a conviction,
2:23:08 in front of everybody's eyes, like trying to find a crime. How about one press conference about crooks? Yeah. All production does something to help the economy put him on Mount Rushmore Probably gay he was a giant freak of a man and definitely I think spent a lot of time But so many warriors in the past were gay like samurais did a lot of gay stuff
2:25:44 that you might consider to be very bizarre. we just fuck each other. it was sometime during like the Me Too movement. like every other day or whatever. You're just like, hey you, I hope you get raped. These rape jokes are not funny blah blah then the girl leaves gets raped It's always threatening a man with rate you guys like you don't do very well in prison
2:28:16 he said you'd see guys raping guys all the time. There was this one very slow guy that Guys were fucking the hole where his colostomy bag gets And it's old. get to be around any boys ever. They were just at school with girls, they're all dressed That's the best example of it But imagine saying to like a grown man Kills their sexual desires. I don't know I didn't it's probably this fucking poison. I mean what is that? What's probably?
2:31:13 I'm 60 here. I am like, what am I doing with myself? Yeah, I've I've I've talked Peter stuff Jamie trying it That's what I had heard. toxic than cobra venom. Botulin poisons its victims by blocking the actions of neurotransmitter Salting of meat is an ancient method of preservation Okay, the secret turned out to be an impurity, Because this is what we had always heard when we were kids,
2:34:20 They debunked the myth about saltpeter lowering libido or sex drive it's false Interesting. theoretical thing that they thought was gonna you know, like Yeah. you know, the Huxtable family, and I just make my barbecue His grades up the importance of homework. Yeah There is a job. This isn't like Sweden. I had to transfer this saltpeter welder Listen dude, it's a long story. All right. I was doing a lot of stuff this weekend. What year was this?
2:37:52 The saltpeter Jews, that's always the Jews, now instead came to collect the soil themselves of the suds. The simmering lasted annually from May 1st to September 29th. The simmering Oh my god, I don't want to live in the time where I got a pissed on the dirt was always war and prison. it's slavery, dude. We have all of these destruction is in nobody's interest.
2:41:43 and be like, that's insane that people were so evil Right, the advent of technology that's everywhere. But like the video footage that would come out ah, that's tough, dude. I was just watching this interview, I'm blanking on the doctor's name, but it was Dave DeCamp Unprovoked is gonna be out I think in the next week or so. who went over to Gaza, he was a doctor,
2:44:37 of other, so his working theory on this was, Blah blah blah the Israeli most moral fighting force in the world what's going on there. And I mean look, it's obviously just so horrific, man. through all of human history have had slavery That's what they all claim. But then can go to war and commit like is psychedelic therapy for veterans. you literally can't,
2:48:04 Here's what's most important all of it became illegal in the sweeping psychedelics act of 1970 that was designed by the Nixon back from war but you can't have it because it's illegal. Well it's the They have to go to all these different places because it's illegal in the very place that sent them over there the very place He's like an activist who's been working
2:50:01 This is Team USA and there's plenty of room for everybody. We all want the same dangerous for some people, particularly people that have a hard time with Such a cool car. You need the psychedelics to make a cool car. But you find a 1969 Corvette, you look at it, Yeah, then if you've ever done psychedelics, That all was squashed by this desire Even better than that, man, would just be
2:53:02 all those people like Elon Musk and the fake Rameswami and JD Vance and Tucker Carlson Vladimir Putin There were a bunch of people who were like, oh, that's not true and blah blah blah So he's like bragging about how they had an opportunity where he, it seems like a lot of the people around him Let's go. We're broke we got our own problems here, and we can't afford to do this, but then he also has
2:56:21 We're gonna set up that conversation. but you're also funny, is so important. But thank you. Bye, everybody.