Joe Rogan Experience #2232 — Josh Brolin Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Oh no you suck. Some people just not talk they should only do what they do And I think Sean Penn appreciated shit like that. Right, well, he does wild shit. Let's go meet a monster. Yeah. Let's go too fucking nice here. Weather's too nice, I'm too famous, let's go meet a monster. that got him caught. Think about it. It's our days this time's Pablo Escobar. Yeah, yeah on pen

2:51 After that? Yeah, I really enjoyed you in colors. Challenge your psyche? Because it puts you in danger? See, that's a different thing. Oh you get negative with it not even it was negative Yogi bear and all that kind of shit You have these animals that are talking to each other and the hunters are always assholes and like it I don't know how much of it is true.

6:08 surprised a lot of people that are like really into kids stuff and like sweet Like I know people that have moved to Texas and they've called me. Oh no. what would, how could you possibly think think that a guy who's a trainer at Gold's in Venice I think I'm going to see him when I'm here. Who has that list? Powerful people. Was something that I learned like when I played when I played W, I played a senator.

8:26 God, that's weird, right? There's something in the paintings. There was I don't know what it was. You know what I just paint dogs. that's what I was bringing up because when I would meet these people, I went to the Senate they were like, you know, I'm not sure. And I just, what I think is, you know, and then The the underlying factor is money, of course, like there's so much money and influence. There's so many special interest groups.

11:47 And you're worth hundreds of millions of dollars and you make a hundred seventy thousand dollars a year and there's no fucking explanation That's what I like. Do you like spending it? I like buying stuff me too. I have a nice car drove here drove a 69 Camaro Everything else is bullshit. is you start treating things as if they're underneath you. That's just gross.

13:56 Yeah, it's disgusting. No, I don't have any of those. I go, no, man, I've been riding motorcycles since I was three and a half years old. They're fun Yeah, like that in the documentary the very beginning he talks about riding a motorcycle. Oh, I don't remember that highway it's the only story that I wrote that somebody asked it in the minute I said I'm not gonna do this I started writing it just kind of

16:13 Also used to be people had slaves. I don't care how it comes out. Yeah, of course. Like if you show up every day and like say, click into that thing, pay respect to the but you can understand why someone would think see it it's something that gets you away from your ego like with writing Because your ego is worried about how people something there's something he's trying to tap into you with I want to buy that

19:03 I love it out there. So why? Because it's beautiful. Because it's beautiful. What about the people? I'm not a little elitist. There's a lot of elitist people out there. So I grew up in Santa Barbara. to, the point is I went to jail there a lot. I just did. I just liked it. Instead of Little kids. We're always talking, we talk about Texas, That was in my mind.

21:04 Heroin epidemic, punk rock, driving accidents. 36 out of 50 really. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They all from what heroin epidemic punk rock We got a tattoo at the same time. That's the problem. We're not grateful enough. But Malibu just didn't kind of sit. And it takes two and a half hours to get there right you and I were talking about that was Joe Walsh's old house.

23:12 is that I was so freaked out about moving up to Santa Barbara. I'm like, yeah, but you don't know what's going to happen. Okay. The mRNA one. Yeah. Do you remember when Jenny McCarthy had a kid and her kid had autism and she thought that autism? companies that are making vaccines, they said we are unable to make these vaccines if we're liable. that have a negative reaction.

26:23 conditioning the parents to accept exemption. nothing underneath, no ropes, but I felt more confident. Their thing is just unlimited growth. You know green rooms and all that we'd all be fucking with each other and it had never had anything to do with money you stay grounded how do you stay accountable and why would you stay And then you go down the weird road and it you know really distorts artists it

29:49 that's like if the parallel is I went back to heroin at that point because I He was like a 20 year old, 21 year old. Phil's his name. So I'm not going to do it. will have a relationship with him later on but we lock eyes and the moment is he's seeing in me Fuck, good for you, dude. I know what if you caught me to I know a lot of people that that's kind of been the trajectory

32:55 thing about you've identified yourself so much as an artist that to release while I was doing it I was just imagining like what if this is my life They wind up doing drugs because they just feel very lost you do that and you're doing you live in hell That would be amazing. you feel trapped and you feel like shit. like, look how I'm living, look at this ocean view, come on, come on. How much of this house do you use? Nothing. Almost nothing.

35:25 It's not the place where you live the entirety of your life. That's why it was interesting walking in here and you know man cave I hate that But it's things the point is is that there's things when I walked in here it made me smile because I started seeing things I don't want to feel that people have to take, Seriously, it's good. It has character.

37:28 Oh, okay. The Hunter of Thompson print. and this is not just to throw Stedman under the bus I was like, what the fuck? And he said, no, I don't think so. See, we can find that. The Kentucky Derby is decadent and depraved. Yeah, it's a really good article actually. Hunter and him? that like as part of driving your car and all that that's the thing from the put your headphones on?

40:49 Then into second gear, forgetting the cars and letting the beast wind out. That guy was fucking amazing. It's great. It's great. It's fucking amazing with the truth to try to like paint a picture. he was on the road and it was the Hunter S. Thompson type of thing. of everything is shit that's it is true it of paper above the keyboard that says the first draft of everything is shit. That's it.

43:34 She lost it? Yeah, I know, can you imagine? Yeah, man. And Dylan Thomas became too fucking alcoholic. the muse, in this dance you do with the drugs and the alcohol and the wild writing and See if you can find that because the routine was so insane. the I've never even done coke. Yeah. It takes you somewhere. you can hold onto them, some people don't hold on to them, but it's a matter of intention,

49:23 changed my life it and I had by the way I took it twice in a 24-hour period And I truly believe that psychedelics, I don't do psychedelics anymore, but I think I did, or if you're in a sauna at 240 degrees for an hour and it's completely safe. And a productive deprivation tank, it would be a very popular drug. Yeah. in for four days. of situations. You're forced to be alone with your thoughts you know

51:32 That's why I like you work out by yourself. Like, it's easy to go somewhere and the guy tells you, okay, 10 reps, but I write my own It's funny. Athlean-X. What if we just rest 30 seconds and then you're right back into How are we changing our perception? If you're trying to get strong, I always recommend taking out like long periods of time in between

53:50 But because of that, it's... and that's what builds strength. where you might get hurt or where you're doing it incorrectly or form so that's How'd you get rid of it? Yeah, they would chisel out a part of your hip. I know, I don't understand why. So yeah. He was basically bone on bone, constant inflammation. and promote fusion. fused. Fused. Which they probably don't even do fusion. They do. If it's a massive break

57:30 then what they do is you lie down there and they inject it in your back. and they stick all that shit. But all that. And they drill that, don't they? They just It's like a syringe, and then inside the syringe, they pump in the Regenekine stuff, and then This looks retarded this looks good. This looks like you could put it up super high you can move it up super high

59:34 They're so fast, but do you want to die? That definitely helps you stay alive. be like movement movement movement movement Yeah, you're gonna lose strength and then it's gonna make whatever of these doctors they're not athletes and they don't really understand like why when you see those videos of these guys that just Jeez. when I look at Dylan Thomas, who I love as a writer, when I look at Dylan Thomas,

1:02:58 Well, like, that motherfucker's great Well in the end Hunter was definitely that you ever see when hunter was on Conan O'Brien show mom dying at 55 and me thinking back then she You just have a few issues, which is just wear and tear of life. And the writing was bad. Dead on it was dead on and it was vintage hunter. It's like he tapped back into it again

1:05:59 kind of looking for something different and it wasn't all about him. Yeah, well did you ever read These other people are coming. into drinking, he's taking all these like fucking nerdy What is my purpose or do I have a purpose when I was young and I just fell into this political status quo Yeah. 90 wow it was through a friend that I met him and then he liked me wow and sweet incredibly sweet guy

1:08:54 Yeah, they make frames. That was it. They make frames. So when you met Kinnison, was it at a show? He was out of there by then. Very much. You know, he was a prisoner to that thing that he became for sure. Yeah. His brother that he made called Louder Than Hell, Massively famous comedians back then there wasn't a lot of us. It wasn't it wasn't like today today. There's like a

1:11:40 So in Kinnison in the beginning, before then I loved comedy I always loved stand-up but I loved it because it But I was a kickboxer. I couldn't wear a suit jacket and pretend to be the guy. Did you start standup back then? Wow, so good. Oh, no kidding. Where'd you compete out of? one of the guys who trained with us, see Bill Cosby, which was kind of crazy. I saw Rodney Dangerfield. And Rodney Dangerfield

1:15:03 And he was just hanging out smoking pot, because he helped other comedians. They were some of the greatest specials ever. He was just loved. And that was the beginning. And why is that? And how do we treat each other? Yeah, and you go fucking james a master master and he's a real artist It was I thought I'd come out visit you just hops on a fucking private jet and flies to Denver because he knew I was

1:18:09 Like, it was fucking genius. Constantly he's constantly on stage working these set earlier artist place of Exactly. That's it. and do stand-up. and he just starts talking and people just gather around. I remember I'm coming around the comedy store again, and we had some conversations about it, and he just He canceled the greatest sketch show of all time.

1:21:08 The art wins. But it's what everybody's thinking. Yep, it's so fucking terrified to say that's what I think even me He makes it beautiful comedy. She hit it so much because without him ...activist comedians and what they are is really not talented But you have to have a way to make it funny it'll frustrate you and you can't talk, you don't have your... But if that guy can take

1:23:43 Friends I was friends with his brother Charlie Yeah. No, I'm sure he prepared, And there was all these rumors I mean, that's like the theme of this whole thing. I fucking love it here. There's no traffic. Fuck food's great. Fuck. People are nice like my wife was kind of interested a little bit, No, no, no. Yeah, Well for me Did you move sight unseen? Did you move? Just did you just come?

1:27:15 about what was going on in LA. us on the lake. We go on the lake, people are playing Leonard Skinner, they're jumping you'd have somebody come Lost their minds. Yeah. where everybody was like, this is crazy. know if that's a blood type. I don't know. What is that? Maybe you're healthy. Maybe Maybe it's COVID. And it was gone in like a day or two. So were the numbers different in Texas than anywhere else? I don't know

1:30:24 D. Yeah. Well, you know, African Americans, the reason why they're so dark, and they would have undetectable levels of vitamin D. That's the most effective way for your body to process it. You're supposed to be outside. if you're overweight, if you're not eating well, and my thought about the medical system. When the vaccine was first available, I was more than willing

1:32:39 and you weren't supposed to go anywhere. and we'll do it then." Got strokes. Wow. No but I understand that but they're still vaccines. listen, the medical community I can use for certain things, the holistic community I can use for certain things. Just like, oh, I feel better. Yeah. Ron went on stage, like for the first time in like months, like I think it was eight

1:35:59 No, I don't know him personally. That's, that surprises me. Yeah. That's who I'm doing. I'm at the Yeah, super good guy. That's Gary Clark Jr.'s place. No! I'm gonna see Brogan this afternoon I'm doing Paramount Theatre tonight and he I was asked to do a lot of videos and I've never done a video because I've never wanted to do a video Yeah, it was awesome.

1:38:04 Yep, and that's the same thing. Like when I talked to Gary about it, I go, why'd you move to Texas? And this was back when I was still live in LA? No, he lives here. Oh, he does. Yeah time Yep And that's the same thing like when I talked to Gary about I go why'd you move to? so many things remotely, and you go, why am I here? We had a real community

1:39:45 Yeah. That's down the street from me. It is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. guys like Tom Segura and Tim Dillon It's packed every night. now it's really happening and then all these people were coming in from all Which was a while ago. He moved here a long time long time ago talking about what's your status right now? Yeah, are you doing it. And if you're at that club, you have to be working on it,

1:43:33 They did it probably went to a publicist or someone I was gonna bring a book for you. I'll buy it How did you sort it out? Because you're so together Section of the LSD 13 year old LSD thing because it's fun. Yeah, it's juicy So, that's why I missed my shot out there. I was surprised. It's Johnny Cash. And not everybody gets to that place. So we're talking about all these people like Hunter S

1:46:11 She was one of the top five winners of the pyramid scam. board that she right took away and put money I found it and bought some drums else takes it or whatever with my mother it was always looking for the most vivid Vicki Lewis, who was on news radio with me. Yeah, yeah, way. I didn't know that. I remember Vicki well. Yeah. and I see this fucking old guy with his glasses on.

1:49:00 But he's fucking incredible in it. He's amazing his one scene this one scene when he breaks down, you know, he's the dad. Wasn't the Tyson-Jake Jake fight wasn't that amazing? people don't understand what a champ he was. Like he was a, He had built himself into confidence and Mike came out afterwards. Of all time. And he was, he's still quick. He had bad sciatica.

1:51:42 He goes, I don't want to ignite my ego. He was fucking jacked and in shape and he looked super intense. I was like, this is, Jamie said it afterwards, Mike Tyson is one of the first people that I met, though. So people always just wanted him. Is that the only reason there was there's just a certain air of somebody and they come along once And he was 19 years old.

1:53:25 I watch Tyson fights all the time. The only fights that never worked out were like, do you remember the fight with him and But you know, brutal knockout puncher. And he... I'll interview you about what's the what's the thing between Tyson and John Jones? They rise to the top of the top and they just dominate. Olivera. But when John Jones won that title at 23, it's just been

1:56:56 flying knee. Nobody does that. You're fighting a legend. Shogun at that time, when he was the It's a different thing. Yeah, Connor self-destructed, you know, in a lot of ways because of money, you know. I Yeah, but there's a difference because physically you can only fight for so long. You don't have like your body can only compete at the highest level

1:58:52 But that's the game they play. you're like, holy shit. They look around at each other and everybody like- Dude, nobody does it That's what I'm doing at home. The sport is, it's the craziest sport. George St. Pierre, another great one. that I've been able to witness personally First 13 ever? but it was banned from cable. And they essentially banished it.

2:01:32 It was like, they would call it human cock fighting, which I always found disgusting. Well, Hoyce, you know, and Hoyce was the first champion Another holy shit moment. particularly his father Elio, his brother Hickson, Like fighting is different. No. It wasn't that. he wasn't like elbowing them, the eyeballs. Yeah, my kids have done it. I want you to be your own human being.

2:04:11 celebrate what my kid is not what I want. There's so many different kinds of things you could too much discipline on the kid and the kids burned out yeah I've seen so many He subscribed to that like ancient It's the process. But he would have these no rules fights in Brazil. That one family created more fucking assassins than any other family in the history of martial

2:07:01 Sessy? nice person. Jiu-Jitsu people are some of the nicest people I've ever met. blood out of your brain like literally try to fucking choke the blood out of I think those sad endings are a valuable lesson for the I guess it's the, I mean, you've done it. I haven't done it. you. It's disgusting to you. You smoke your butt. Will laugh I think you understand absurdity. How long did it take you to put it together two years?

2:10:54 or whatever, and I'd start to write those down. That's the hardest process I've ever gone through, Because you're writing about yourself, but you're hiring somebody else to do it, but It's too wild. It's too whatever. along and then people started reading the book. And then I got this varied response I don't know. because you refine and you clarify and you simplify. Yeah. That's cool. You get to look

2:13:27 Every actor wants to be a rock star Oh yeah, I did. and people tried to shoot you? I said, you know and you go I don't I don't And I don't like the idea of limiting myself. When you're out with a bunch of people having fun, Yeah, it's a trap. having a drink or two. you had to have at least six drinks. Yeah. Well, he's just hammered and his kid filmed it.

2:16:43 Right. Yeah, it was super lame. You're not a fucking drive. You're like, oh no, I'm so gross. Yeah. Even the end, the end when it ends, you're like, what happened? He was so good. that Javier kills in the movie. It seemed like a small... That's inside of him. That he can... The guy to the left, that's Chip. and all this kind of shit. This guy's not from Spain I

2:21:09 Play it for a whole hour. Just call it. You know what date is on this coin? Everything. Where you want me to put it? It just hangs. man yeah how did you not know that movie was great while you were doing it But yeah, so I think they just went back to the simple like the one with Corona. Well, there you go. Yeah. Um, but they, It was so simple wild was so simple and and but in the wild though into the what dude when I saw I saw it with my kid

2:25:02 Wow. and Javier and my character go head to head at the end and that doesn't happen. he was like, I don't fucking know, man. I just sit down at the typewriter and it comes. The bed that he was on, it was me, his ex-wife, Wow. Are they crazy? There's so many different things that are all sort of coalescing into this. Yes. Yeah. You know? 1500 people bought it.

2:28:41 and all those paintings being outside getting rained on. Yeah