Joe Rogan Experience #2243 — Julian Lennon Transcript

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0:00 I go see this dermatologist. kind of kept picking at it when it became a scab and I kept picking over point and freaked out because I just thought what does this mean and it's in I'd been scratching here a bit Anyway, I'm happy to be here in one piece for the moment, you know. It's a weird thing, because how old are you now? I refuse. times a week.

4:34 Absolutely. Depression as well and anxiety. I get pretty anxious still even you know coming here today. I was a bit the signage down there. Oh really? Oh yeah that says it's the biggest bad Yeah, I don't What purpose do they have really? I don't know Are you sure this is going to be okay in the long run? Like, what's the potential There was a laboratory that lost track of, well, I put it on Twitter, lost track of like

8:23 down in Galveston where they take care of like some of the most dangerous end of that statement that could So these goofballs are down there working on viruses, making them more infectious to Oh, great. Yeah, no. Cillian Murphy's back. There's no discharge in the war. Men, men, men, men, men go mad with watching them. with their lenses but... I with all these things.

12:45 forth where they're talking about the lie and they go in front of Congress and they There's money involved in this. This is one of the scariest things fucking terrifying a total disaster, the Cuban Missile Crisis, and then there was the one time where there stuff, if no one reacted to the Orwellian censorship complex that was established to The evil exists to appreciate the good and to motivate the good

16:12 What do you do? I've been on motorcycles since I was like in my early teens. Oh, most certainly. then I thought I was never gonna be one of those guys that ever kind of rode one And I literally rolling down any hill I could just to survive, So that's what my old bike looks like I mean, stunning, stunning, stunning places. like myself, we have a summer house getaway so you can go breathe on the weekends.

20:43 I've never been there, personally. Yeah, well, that's one element of it. That's pretty reasonable. Oh, yeah. Monaco's half an hour away from Italy and there's actually a big crossover convertible, and that's my little run around and decided to get But the food, again, is this combination of it, Is it here? up your house. I get that. right off the cruise ship that are just fat and stupid.

25:51 they'll speak back to you in English, you know. And they kind of go, yeah. But I've liked Rome too. It's a little touristy the problem with Rome is it's overcrowded and there's a lot of touristy shit going on. were involved in kind of hotels and restaurants from also London in the heyday of Italian restaurants. It was sadly his lifestyle killed him with a couple of heart attacks at the end of everything.

28:52 They can be a bit stressed sometimes though with the shouting at each other and Yeah, I mean, I don't want to sound pompous, And there's a little town about an hour away from Monaco, tiny little You know, they all love to walk the promenade and, you know, in their finest attire and, You know, do you have you been to Monaco before I said no famous restaurant and famous corner called the Rascass corner on the Grand Prix circuit.

32:12 very famous little spot. There it is. Yeah, that's it. So you'd be behind the chicken wire fence. the dog actually died before I of a store called Habitat, I was just stupid. gone off the rails. Yeah, easily. I was borderline. I enjoyed it too much. And then I went out to LA I was doing something for MTV and you were one of the first And well, I'd been once for a martial arts competition

36:46 I'm sure I was. I didn't know anything. They go out, they go out to the clubs and it was just. when you when you start adding cocaine to human beings you get dark oh yeah and a lot of Jack The last one I was dragged to was Naomi Campbell's birthday party, which was... And I was like, I don't want to go to any fucking parties. and then you have to get on a shuttle

39:34 Campbell, there's a photograph of her on the side of the hill We're just laughing like this is so crazy, and then we got out of there went right back to the Comedy Store at. the place, but yeah, back in my day, there was no taxis around either. So you'd get trapped. They've lost their time to those places. It's very messy. It becomes a part of your life in your lifestyle

42:32 LA is so particularly odd too because everyone's chasing this very specific goal of notoriety. Yeah I like I can't quite get to grips with all of that to be honest with you Right. Well, that comes along with the quest, right? It's fascinating to be around them and to like to kind of just, you know, I know a lot And I had just done a podcast with him.

45:18 Doesn't come because he looks like a rock star. He does he does he's Yeah, his show is wonderful too. the boring kind no no well i can be i think we all can be i guess at some stage but well just the And I loved his show. that makes so much sense. And I was like, oh, you ignorant fuck. You had never put it as we call it, I'll drive you. Yep, all of that. Yeah, I agree. I live, it's a much healthier lifestyle over there without

49:36 Oh yeah, that's a fact. I think, you know, I was poor when I was young and I think because It's like oh man. Oh, yeah, something special and look at my schedule these days. Is that what inspired your photography? which was about Lucy Voden, and he said to me, and you don't, you actually don't do that with another photographer's work. You know he said what?

52:59 1,000 at that time, which isn't much at all. I was more petrified as well, there was the most horrendous storm and downpour in New York I just continued doing that. I'm now over I think 42 exhibitions worldwide and I just son like there's a burden that is very unique to you I listen I certainly had always known me as Julian even mum and dad called me Julian so I'm like

57:49 right well and then it was kind of like, see you on the real show the producers turned me down and you know my piece, whatever that is that is you know on whatever subject Which is what which is why you know to a certain degree started I know that you have interest in indigenous cultures and I don't know if all kinds of shows. I was doing promo and tour as well. And I found myself in Adelaide

1:02:46 stuff. I didn't know what the what their problems were. Dad had said to me, and I couldn't tell you when or where, just was one of those times that we were together you know, the goosebumps came on heavy. And it's, you know, it's in a very special place at home. the odds? Just what are the odds that you would be contacted by an indigenous tribe people and he said the only way that that can happen is if you have a

1:07:50 Anyway, there were a few other, there was lots of emails and I finally said, well, you know, all right, this is a platform. Let me see if I can. Okay, what am I interested in? What can I do? that became one of the first orders of the day, protect the walk to and from schools that took three to six hours and they'd be exhausted by then go to sleep and then walk to school again. So you'd hear these incredible

1:11:20 them off into the Sierra Nevada mountains. and I was only there for a few days, was that we came back down from the mountains, And there was a piece that I can't explain. of the most loving and most peaceful moments of my entire life. The simplicity to Asia or wherever and back in the day you only had one movie on a projector Whatever that cloud, that light, that shade, that shadow, the color, the beauty of that,

1:15:52 just absorbing everything that I found So. this a few times, I have the worst memory of anybody I know. and I've never used nothing that was natural light I thought, okay, can I make it a retrospective? Can I make it all the stuff that I'm interested Now that meant working on the book like an absolute fruitcake madman on crack. I mean we were doing 9 to 12 hours

1:20:08 Make a collection of 50 pictures messenger really. I'm just capturing something and I'm sharing it. And the Because I try not to I've in whatever profession I've done whether it's documentary work or Again I to that of this exhibition. Again, I, funnily enough, the book became my guideline. And there's been music involved too, never works out. How did you learn how to use them?

1:24:34 Yeah. Wow. Wow. But you also have to relearn self-taught. You know, the band that you put together, generally I'll have one or two friends in the band. they had the songs down already and I just went oh fuck, shit I'm screwed. So that means again I have to step up to the plate and it was just a question of camera that took the shots. the trip that I did. So but I think where my strength lies in photography is weirdly the technical side obviously but capturing that moment. I tell you the one

1:29:50 I arrive at the hotel where she and all the maids of honor are sitting, with all his equipment on three or four trolleys and there's I've got a backpack point how many times am I in the book. I don't even know myself to be honest. But I sit next I'm going, what do you mean? to record what's gonna happen to you. I just start I just let people get on and I'm taking pictures and I get a

1:33:29 I'm cursing myself and the one thing that I remembered that she said to me is that, look, whatever you do, don't let any picture have me drinking or smoking in it. I thought, OK, I'll do it. 1950s magazines you know it's just certain angles and a different look in a having her pictures in a collection or a box set, See if you can find some of those pictures because it's really interesting once you know that they photoshopped it

1:36:31 Those those real moments of him having a cigarette or loss for his idea was it to get rid of the cigarette Disneyland Yeah. Is there any photos of him with a cigarette? I got them all to stop doing it. Because Yeah. Really? that was just so weird because it was part of the norm of back in the day that you'd be quit cold turkey I Oh yeah, because I, I, listen,

1:40:31 was part of the initiation you know the part of growing up so and I loved it You know, I'd just sit there and, you know, be a rocker and smoke my ciggy and down my Well, no, no, no. Pick up a cigarette because you're gonna die without it. Yeah, that was literally his sentiment Lengths in a swimming pool underwater and hold my breath better than anybody else, which I was able to

1:43:26 I go on these kind of power walks, you know, trying to get it all in anymore. You just change the inhalation states of consciousness through breathing exercise. Well, when I was, I mean, I, you know, the, if you didn't have the paperwork with you, you'd be fined and all of that stuff and I couldn't move. But you weren't allowed on the beach, which was the most to sit there and contemplate

1:46:18 I remember going on my first power walker along a peninsula. that's about 15 minutes out of Okay. is wearing a police hat. yeah, I understand a little bit, a good amount of French, peculiar These people are in a cult. Like it's very, first of pretending and it's forced compliance Even if they don't make any sense and then also watching people comply

1:50:53 Strange. media, all in on, you know, everybody who denies it is an Yes, beyond messed up And when you see a mask, It's all a bit surreal. I mean so strange it really is. It's all a bit odd No one's that evil. No one would do that just for profit. And now I'm like, I don't know. Yeah. So I I loved and that's where I Do you hate the terminology of home?

1:55:52 26 years through some turning old all of a sudden. No you sound like someone who appreciates beautiful that we don't know we need absolutely and then no question about it yeah you earthing sheets yeah that you can get earthing sheets. Yeah really it was a beautiful moment I was thinking in them in that time like this But then even explaining that, unfortunately, has been co-opted by the term mindfulness,

1:59:52 hijacked. Yeah, which is very sad actually because... Yeah, we could take it back. Oh yeah. his type of psychedelic artwork. So it looks like some insane, like magical spiritual retreat that like multiple sides of faces all connected together. And this is like this. Oh, wow. Phenomenal and you know working on it forever. What is is he professing anything? I don't know what his keep phone is there an order as such. I mean

2:03:23 Just very, very interesting guy and his artwork is just incredible. Like Yeah. thousands of years for every computer on earth to solve. I've read that. It can solve in a Incomprehensible. Like you're only looking at it and there's numbers, you No, no, that was being talked about in the wording of the willow description, right? What is the definition of how it works?

2:07:03 Right. What is that thing that they have? And if you've ever seen Harmut Nevin said that the chip's performance lends credence to the notion that quantum in the theoretical research phase of this journey. computer can store and process is like a light switch. Each bit can only be in a or Schrodinger's cat, this won't be too far of a stretch, If you have two bits which can return a value of one or zero,

2:10:14 all four positions, all four possible states in one second. The real power This is just too weird. the universe. So it can do more time than vastly exceeds the entire age of the Like what are we even saying here? individually do every possible calculation to finish the equation. What Put that back on? It has to be cool to a point where it's colder than outer space, sealed away from any possible signals such as microwaves, radiation, radio signals, etc. for fear of that noise leading to potential mistakes and have specific signals delivered by purpose built wires. Who figured this out? Where are those eggheads? Jesus Christ.

2:14:44 living in Ravello, just right now. Just think about what we're doing. I still don't get how a TV works or the radio. I'm still not. No, I can't either, but it's pretty amazing. It's pretty amazing. It's an amazing time to be alive. next... a UFO, I've clearly seen a UFO. what it looked like went up the Hudson went under the bridge and then zapped off my experience

2:19:03 You know, quite unusual. I'd never It stayed there. Did anybody else notice it? God, I would have wanted to ask them. And there was nobody in the seats on the other side. No, tell me about it. I mean, there's been moments in my life, a relevant sign that made me certainly feel that, and I'd had other experiences, that that was a real connection, this concept of being something else has existed throughout

2:25:18 And I went fuck I mean I really know, how did you sleep? Is everything all right? I said, well, I don't want to say of Mayan and civilizations that have been there before. And so she says, you know, have a look. And I'm between that and the white feather. celled organisms yeah right and then they became multi-celled organisms, So why would we assume that this is all that the senses could potentially interact with,

2:29:33 I have a feeling that the next leap of change that's going to happen with human beings is I would have loved, for me, flying the wall What was that like? Absorb. Yeah what I can. and that the energy that's created by are happening simultaneously all at once that kung fu movie, everything all at once. I think there's probably a lot to that. There's Would it be better?

2:33:17 You're pulling ideas out of the air. It's all in the ether. It's who gets there first. And I just heard this noise behind me and we're under a plastic cover. It was For this little girl there to kind of go, it's okay. And I didn't actually know if I'd got the shot because, again, my eyesight's not the we'll do okay at the end of the day, you know. Yeah. Correct. It's the yin and yang, it's the balance thing again that...

2:37:14 goes this is insane that we're here now. Yeah. Having this experience. Yeah. It's hard to ignore the possibility that maybe they're correct. and you're also the richest man in the world, with that making things happen. Yeah, he believes it's possible. So he does it. And I think that's the same with a lot There's something there that is free will. as being one of the most preposterous concepts

2:40:43 I feel like there are decisions that you can make, and you make But to dismiss the concept of the multiverse also equally silly. To dismiss this idea that and you recalibrate and then you get to that fork this in a narrow window of understanding and dismiss all the other things to contrary. I certainly have enjoyed the process, but it's funny what you're saying, how you're saying

2:43:48 When you're visualizing the future on the possibilities, manifesting your dreams, studying it out, is there some truth to that? I definitely think. It's heavy. Let's do this again sometime. Thank you. My absolute