Joe Rogan Experience #2244 — Ryan Graves Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. You wanted to talk to me about this drone situation and I've become very concerned. I made a next post about this yesterday to try to assuage some fears. you can imagine that would be their number one priority, right? So I engage So that's part of why I have a that's not the case or have they given you any information what what could they do? Is is any is there any truth to this idea that we have the type

3:48 The way that NIST DOE typically operates in this environment is ground-based And, you know, I know a guy who's an insider and he says to get out of the East Coast and you know, head for Nevada Right. So how come no one's been arrested? How come no one's been caught? How come they haven't? All right, right where we are now that also happened the year before over Langley

6:05 wider swath. Now we have them all over New Jersey, all the way up to Massachusetts. It is in the sense that it's so large and so many people are paying attention to it. you know, why can't we do more about it? out of the water physically or if they're coming from some unknown location in the water and then proceeding over the coast. they are that they're doing.

8:48 That's a great question. will allow traditional UAVs or drones to operate without emitting right so they golf, tennis, and more. Is it because they're sensing something? is tech, there's electro-optical systems, there's infrared camera systems, not That's interesting. So is the signature management something? We create heat whenever we have stored energy and we utilize it.

12:18 familiar with. but they don't seem to be operating like a normal aircraft, right? So they're down low, and still have the battery life I did see one video like that. hey, government needs to step in It was plain. I think that was a plane crash. Oh, yeah Did you see the video of the plane that crashed in Texas? Multi multi billion dollar company that he runs. I don't think he can fuck around

16:01 Yeah, it's um threat, okay great. But why is it, why is it so prevalent? Like why are there so It's away from airports. in order to wiretap these. The fuck out of here. these signals that they may or may not even be emitting risk of objects flying over the U.S. down so they can inspect it. It's like I'm assuming they haven't shot one down if they're

19:13 Okay. stuff. Just please tell people your background so they understand what you So you'd have, you know, you might fly with a newer radar in the morning, maybe an older radar at night. originally thought they were radar errors, right? Some kind of software glitch. All our sensors are pumped into our helmet, with the safety officer in our squadron and say, hey, you know, like, okay, what's

22:54 mitigate it in some way. That never happened, at least from our perspective. or is it just equipment? And they almost had to shut that entire exercise down because there were multiple near misses In 2017, a New York Times article came out. that these videos now have been somewhat smuggled out. Can we show those, Jamie? So with the crosshairs It's not capturing it. What would be the difficulty like why is it difficult to lock on? We don't know

26:40 but yeah, you can see them try it there. It's not a very reliable indicator of the range And that's miles per hour or kilometers? Which is very bizarre yeah, it's moving 170 whatever miles an hour. Yeah, and it's I when we're looking at the dark, does that Propulsion that would be accentuated. Yeah, you would see the exhaust coming out of the back The pilots do talk about how it's going 120 knots

30:11 And were they able to figure out where this is going or keep an eye on it or do we have to go investigate this, but presumably they would. Can you guys lock into that? and additionally that information should have also been received by the ship but we operate as like a self-contained expeditionary group. That's interesting. That's fucking weird. Yeah.

32:57 Oh. They're about a mile apart, flying in formation, flying in a formation like a tight formation all within about a half a mile that are out there operating in this area, east of the ship, we're already 300 miles administration and the Pentagon are unwilling to have a conversation with Or perhaps they do have the answers, um, I've only seen a few on the ground. I've seen so many fake ones, you know, there's just so many ones that people

36:54 There's not like one person you can go to I mean you have your people that are dismissing everything I think it's just hobbyists and crazy people but Was it Andreessen? And so most of the hobbyist drones are coming from China. like a giant security threat the fact that China has had just full integration It's changing drastically, and this is something

39:33 of a declaration of war. and of course, within, you know, the normal, you know, defense contract world that is building Don't even know where to look I've looked there's people on the news that have reported it Where he's a CEO of a drone manufacturing company. This is the guy that made me the most nervous. No. I'm not normally a TikTok kind of a guy.

42:36 I don't particularly believe that these have a nefarious intent. We don't know where they are, maybe somebody does, but nobody really knows where these That is a very serious deal. material would be taken along the Interstate 70 corridor heading east or west or south. You need to do mapping during the day. for trying to find gas leaks just simply to try to get somebody in the government to say,

47:55 raise awareness that there is a very deadly weapon on its way to the United States. Wasn't that? ship named the Hughes Glomar Explorer was used to recover a sunken Soviet submarine. Now I know you're being sneaky. Say it like that. Why was he touching it? Yeah. be if you are a military contractor and you design and implement drone systems Yeah, well he should be.

51:37 that there's a nuclear warhead missing, but. Like, that's it, right? now quantum computing, I had a conversation with someone last night was that if you took every atom in the universe and converted it into computing power to achieve these answers. you're saying this is the proof of the multiverse what does that even fucking for complete global domination of power grids,

55:12 Your car has a computer in it. Welcome to parts. So what I mean by that is that they have not just been working on this technology in order to this Wi-Fi system, and these boxes were outside. I think they typically refer to that as a man in the middle attack But back to your point about China trying to work on quantum computing, on AI, I think States that competes with the operations in Taiwan?

58:24 They stepped in and said, we're going to financially support this. It could be strategically misaligned. it's still just buried in a classified area, then we're gonna get outcompeted that is ultimately not gonna pay off like it would if you were investing in a consumer product? create a new investment cycle or structure that is more tolerant to the

1:01:05 So what I mean by that, and you know, to better understand this topic are aligned with our defensive needs, right? that the government wants that is also aligned Come on, I love a good low-confidence rumor but there does seem to be investment that's been made. There seems to be this these interesting technologies that were once ridiculed back in the day

1:03:30 head. Justin Trump says he's staying away from his New Jersey golf club. I'm in the drone settings And I think they'd be better off saying what it is our military knows and our president knows. tour. Two quick questions. There are technologies that we could go out in the field What do I have to do? So Jamie, sign up. congratulations Jamie so what would you do so now that you've joined what can you

1:07:01 How do you separate the wheat from the chaff, as it were? Some of them are standing up their own UAP working groups a few years ago, there was a relatively large object A random lady in Florida that happened to be basically due south from Atlanta in your Wi-Fi Well, that leaves us either an enemy or us, right? You would trickle it in. You would trickle it in slowly. You'd have a bunch of drones

1:10:32 different areas. If you knew that UAPs were coming and you were in the government and you said, Bank with a mask on you like what the fuck are you crazy now? You have to do it Bobby heard they're looking for a nuke. That's why there's not shooting them down. well put a bunch of shit in the sky freak these dummies out that's what i would do i you put them in a Tesla and then you drove them to the movie theater and then you took

1:13:48 I said if I wanted to normalize the idea of us being invaded that's why you can airdrop it to me that probably the fastest way yeah it says They're shutting us down, bro. they can all like add to your little playlist He's got something called the unplugged phone. It actually is a physical In order to make it waterproof, sorry. I think it's going to be super gone with these quantum computers.

1:16:50 like how many? Yeah. Intelligence and then connected to a quantum computer and Google is literally talking about they have plans to put their own It hasn't even made yet. gets connected to the multiverse? And everyone's all gas no brakes. We're all fucking hot rodders on the highway tell you how many stars there are in the universe. You know what? No, it was like I was Roth by 50,000. My brain doesn't understand numbers

1:21:31 What are we doing And then that thinking being of course creates infinitely better versions of itself and figures Thing that they had seen which is they're kind of starting to talk I'm saying like, or there's something out there or there's something that they know If this is just like a thing that beings go through that could wipe out technology and bring it back to the caveman days.

1:24:49 the Trump administration, oncoming Trump administration should do about the UAP topic? sense. You can't have that one. it's from another planet, that's not yours. If you're saying like, we have to get to this, We need to know, look, again, if it's our stuff it happening like back in 2004 this is where it gets squirrely where it gets 50,000 feet above sea level to 50 in a second

1:28:40 and if it's not some back engineered stuff, And I see that as the conversation around disclosure. that allows us to understand what's going on And the more that that work is done If she's going to be, she's what, the national intelligence if she's confirmed. Yeah if she's confirmed that time period It would turn like 90 degrees, and that's where it would, whatever the fuck kind of generator that's inside of it,

1:32:18 It's the only way a biological thing could survive, right? Nolan sorry Nolan cool guy. I just have too many names in my head no disrespect artificial creation Everybody would just get the fake eyes. problematic. that's what it would look like. Their mind is integrated. You don't worry about any of that shit and then you're inside and what brought them into this conversation and realized that we were falling behind

1:36:45 gravity manipulation, right? and extended electrodynamics? And people are starting to think that by integrating the full understanding of electrodynamics, who extended electrodynamics, do work to manipulate gravity through large concentrations of energy, electromagnetic effects, It's like a movie. Work in the vault somewhere with masks now, they're just like maybe she was the tall Biden

1:39:40 where a lot of heat and radiation comes out, Is this work that we're doing in a dark lab? it would get pilfered, it would get infiltrated by Chinese spies, which happens all the time, just flying places instantaneously, if that's the future of space travel, like Reliant on gravity and they figure out like they're bending time just because we're not worried about competitors.

1:41:49 Because if we're artificially slowing our progress Get into this stuff and maybe that's what's been happening for the past, you know, 20 30 years after the Cold War And have you ever seen Lazar talk about it? it's basically impossible to validate it. Doesn't totally validate the story, as a plane and then took off? It looks like a plane. It's like, you know, it's one of those things,

1:44:32 Air traffic control didn't have it on their radar. but it's these elected officials, you know, I think it's not easy to just put your iPhone up in the sky You need some very high-powered equipment moon. Did you see how that got figured out? No. You can't slip things by the nerds. Right? And so they're trying to say it's AI, as well. that care about this topic, that are leading the charge, perhaps at the Office of Science and

1:47:53 and work with the Department of Energy now can access these large I think by doing that, we can then potentially confirm what is being discovered through this Would there be issues where a bunch of these people could get prosecuted. So one thing, especially at the last hearings we've heard, is that there needs to be stronger outside the bounds of the executive order that allows for the creation of classified information. None of them have been ever prosecuted.

1:51:10 And these are the two laws that essentially allow For there to be prosecutions in Congress or from the whistleblowers themselves, the Supreme to come in and share that information, lest the Supreme Court step in and change their precedent for the past several decades. And I think some of the messaging has been inaccurate claiming that we need to have stronger

1:53:18 But ultimately I think we just need someone to step up to the plate and come forward to I bet you'd be asked. I hope you'll be asked, I should say. Because I think you're uniquely we should probably know. it's clear to me based off of all my research and connections and feeling a trunk feeling the foot and I don't know specifically the type of, order to maintain custody of these objects. Now if no one has ever gone full

1:56:54 presidents a lot of information on this is because they want if there's a race it's essentially no different than if we engineered core information that we're not alone in the universe potentially Oh. in order to be engineers and scientists Because they're coming and they're gonna be super powerful. but if you think about I think that is, that which should motivate us,

2:00:45 that's you can get past that. It's like we're in a phase where our technological that are visiting us, of being a human being in 2024 It must be a hell of a time to come watch us, right? up or maybe they're the robot custodians of the God creating intelligent beings and that all they're doing is sent for AI Like that might have just been- haven't they created like

2:04:13 You just engineer it so that whatever this creature is, We're so fucked. I'm so anxious It's probably not real. and light travel that allowed them to transport, you know, Right. Even if we don't understand how they're doing it, if proven to be true, everybody I mean, what is your take on the crashes? One thing I like to think about is, you know, their planet, you know, we're making a lot of assumptions

2:07:11 a much more developed technology. you know, we make the assumption that if they're here, they're gods, right, they can do anything. there's electromagnetic interference. So I could see a logic there that shows that, from another planet. We always think technology is completely linear and we think that what we did and the way We don't know how they measured it

2:09:28 they had developed methods and technologies A lot of people can go out and look at it. They're all trying to win the next contract and grant, Was it Cortez or a cabezas de Vaca who who visited the Mayans and wrote about it? It might have been Cabezas de Vaca This is a totally completely different type of civilization. with everything in the known universe?

2:11:43 They might be using some sort of different way of generating energy that we don't understand. Like, and it was all theoretical until the large of diamonds. Yeah. fish tank kill a fish eat it climb back and go back in their tank that's why why I don't own a squid or an octopus, because if I saw that in the middle of the I learned a pretty interesting little tidbit here.

2:14:01 can enter into this new environment. that came from space. Yeah. I mean if you look back at like the evolution of humans the time period is like several billion years, right, for the evolution from these components It's pretty interesting, kind of tied to that theory, is that the Big Bang happened and the universe, which would be a really interesting concept because it would lead us to believe

2:17:06 Right. Yeah, which is fucking nuts How to be astronaut because that was clearly the easiest choice of treating astronauts to mine There was a congressman that had a classified meeting about the James Webb. Yeah, it definitely happened if they denied it Excuse me, Laszlo on X. related to the telescope's findings. The request aimed to clarify whether any congressional

2:20:26 Was hiding the fact we're gonna get hit by an asteroid. That's how I would do it. I wouldn't tell people I Whatever that means. bottleneck has been the lack of transparency? But Biden and Harris have been like the last managers of blockbuster video This is their instructions? If you look at it from their perspective, what could possibly be the case where they

2:23:52 amount of interest in this topic. That's what I think. Tell us something's going on. He talked about how united we would all be if the threat of an alien invasion was happening earth Like, hello? And yet, I ask you, is not an alien force already among us? Let's imagine that you get into this position, You're gonna have to get the best and the brightest.

2:28:03 that countermand previous memorandums that and that we can't allow China or Russia to know that we're capable of a conclusion that you already support. All you have to do is bring the president to the crash site. whoever. Maybe it's not even a visitor. Maybe it's always been here. Maybe it lives in the splash. And it would, I think, have the equivalent impact of a positive nuclear bomb on our economy.

2:31:41 If we reach technological proficiency in all this AI stuff and quantum, if we reach this first, then what do you think that looks like? and potentially steal that technology and replicate it, That sounds really good. I go back and forth as to whether or not these are visitors or whether or not they're interdimensional It's a complete revamping of our position in the universe if we do realize we're part of a

2:34:01 It would give us a lot of reason to collaborate and like Ronald Reagan was the meanwhile, like in the what we're facing today with these superpowers duking it out duking it out, arguing about what's on the wall, this topic, Joe, is huge. I think the momentum that we've seen over the past three, four, five, I think it's possible to do. I really do and I think that's what the general

2:36:44 I have this kind of pit in my stomach that this will probably stop in like a week or two and But why would they communicate with state and local authorities if they could do it would be willing to manipulate 95% I think so. I mean for the vast majority of cases that I've seen, you know on social media whatnot, unusual. Like, what is an example of anomalous that exceeds our capabilities?

2:40:13 So have we developed these capabilities? Not just radar but infrared, but Iran and China and Russia, and it would even be difficult for us to do. all these kind of facts lined up one after another makes it really anomalous and quite then using mobile platforms we'll be there to be able to detect the strength where these things are coming from? Well, that's the thing, right?

2:43:30 But there's no ship that's been sighted right correct I have reports from submarine operators Yeah. I mean, and how much of the ocean has actually been discovered or explored rather? are aware of it and know that it's a real issue. thing. What is it? And why don't we know? And why aren't we being told what where that seems to be pretty widely accepted at this point.

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