Joe Rogan Experience #2246 — James Fox Transcript

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0:00 Need more hot takes? Head to the FanDuel Sportsbook app. They've got more ways to bet, more ways to win, and more ways to cash out quick. Oh my God, I'll tell you the funniest story about how I ran into him. I was like, they told me not to take it, And he was like this shadowy finger up against the corner like kind of just you know Is it ours is like some crazy military stuff because if it's not and it's coming from the ocean like what do you mean?

2:45 And he was sending me stuff that was really helpful. And he goes, and I'm also an experiencer. right around the time your film's coming out. I definitely, wasn't there something in Ohio, right? Who fucking knows? with these drones? I'm seeing these things in the sky. But then I got reports of objects is like, you're lucky to get 25 minutes. I was like, Chris, what is going on, buddy?

5:34 But there are other ones coming in off the ocean that It's a UAP. It's unidentified anomalous phenomenon. Why don't you just use UAP? That's my personal opinion. I kind of get that but also it's just an Right? Yeah. Like when was it acknowledged that this was an issue But Jamie is there like I have any sort of official answer to that? I have something that 20th 19th something like that is mid-November.

8:31 mentioned during the historic UAP hearing held in 2023. The case involved Boeing contractors AERO, and the FBI. A huge triangular shaped craft larger than a C-130 that hovered 50 feet over a police that these statements are true. We need answers to this mystery and better So this was it? What was the exact date of this? I wonder if it's like, you know, vacation season.

11:41 That's exactly what I'm saying. It's like one of those things. It's like you can do it, but it's a pain in the ass Well, it's a very good point. Yes, you don't know what the hell it is. What are you even gonna say? The story is like so unifying and we had this kumbaya moment and we discovered I was like, okay, tell me and I never thought about this before you just mentioned it. He goes, okay

13:30 We have no visible means of defense against them. People always go, why the secrecy? If you're running for president, you Yeah, yeah, let's do it! No, I have not. Amazing, amazing documentary. 1996 and your documentary on it. Yeah moment of contact amazing amazing document So we're talking about that and I I came off the heels of doing the phenomenon

15:33 And then three months after I was on your show and moment of contact, there was all this legislation, which I actually, funny enough, got to attend. you're being mind-fucked? Do you wonder at all that this is a massive psy-op and this is But the great book and movie by the way if you haven't seen it folks close and count Those came directly out of project Blue Book files even the

18:36 Because it's a movie that's filled with, it's not like standard UFOs land. There's some play He goes it was just like it was in the close-in counts of the third kind Steven Spielberg's movie Well the reason why I don't is because okay I don't just believe Grush because he testified well, actually, when I went in to put out Moment of Contact, Like seriously, that's what you wanna put out there. You got access to like Harry Reid

20:43 crazy that eventually you watched it. No, I thought, well, I always think a crash and contact sounds crazy. I know I always and it does Oh, yeah, I told you I remember when I was making Moment of Contact and I wasn't done with it yet, Lou Elizondo I was like, okay, okay, what's the urgency? Obama said a lot more about it. Why? Because he's already in space. He's in space right now.

22:30 He's not running for a second term. what advice would you give the president? I think we're way beyond that at this point. I agree with you. However, when I confronted mr. Trump Crackpot and they tell you a lie like something's up, but there's people that can hide things they can hide things behind their eyes while having these buildings, apartment buildings, hotels.

24:30 I mean, if they fucking... That's a matter of national security. Drones That is it. Everything's fine. Go about your lives. There's definitely not nuke sniffing drones. Come on, nuke sniffing drones. there's something really weird going on. Okay, so basically I was talking about earlier available internationally. They're working as fast as they can to get it up. It just

27:07 This is Lou, probably Jay Stratton, I don't know for sure, by a bipartisan group of lawmakers I think he's a Wisconsin, but I'm not positive, And none of the names or anything in that document were redacted. what the intelligence agencies really know. like, oh, that's going to make a beautiful shot for the movie and it is in the movie. to call him, in the desert. So that was a crazy story. But in any case, so when you

30:37 I was like, what do you mean? What the fuck did you just say insane? Yeah, so he'd already testified to a number of Senate Intel communities, Senate Armed Service community. And all about the UFO And it could be a little insurance policy for yourself. He goes, and my phone starts blowing up 10 minutes later. Excuse me. and it was picked up on camera.

33:42 The film is in the movie? Could you maybe just say the actual name of the incident? Good point. So... It's weird. Yeah. It didn't have propellers. It just looked like a like an object around sort of object people's names the witnesses leaks and three days later he's in a convoy They look cold, their skin had a slight blue tint to it, right side of the door and as he's getting out, somebody in the truck screams, he's got

37:58 was just paralyzed with fear. It was really scary. What am I looking at? Is this a human? flies away and he said he sort of stair stepped away and everybody sort of came out of this criticism I'm going to receive for reporting on this, is that other Listen man, it's there's nothing wrong with reporting on a story like that. There's been a bunch of them

40:31 to talk about UFOs before just for the ridicule. He was rubbing himself down and he had to stench smell grease bacteria on that planet is to have skin fluid that's like unbelievable toxic and then I heard some rustling again imagine? Just a smell, that's their way of defense. It's just this stench that just goes Like she tried to turn away but it got her all over her body.

43:51 just let him outside. And I hear him like, no! And then he goes, and I thought, oh my skunk They're like, oh, Ross goes home. at this this is crazy bears are sent the best sense of smell of any animal on earth for example average I was like, yeah, whatever like that. No,, no, put that stuff. They were really adamant. like, look, it's trapped in there.

46:34 It's a really funny camera was rolling and they played it sort of the camera was rolling but the lens cap was on so there You know shit from a bear especially grizzly bear. You're not taking shit from a bear unless you're a bigger bear You know bears lead a little berries. They'll eat a bunch of shit not cats. So the cats are them. Because you have to kill certain numbers of them for depredation because they'll start killing livestock. They're still killing dogs in

49:40 You know one time I was I was hiking up this mountain without him, I was like, well, this is why people I was like, huh. is doing out here? Like, what what the hell is that's a mountain lion to take one for the team. They get got because when they pass by a cat, it's almost like rolling a ball of yarn past a kitten I saw one in Colorado. Wow, that was big.

52:46 down and the lights of the truck even though it wasn't quite dark yet the Okay, so can you find the program trailer on on here at all or yeah for sure. All right find the program trailer UAPs are unexplained. It's true. They need to be investigated. that there have been crashes, but there What has been revealed, non-human intelligence exists, non-human intelligence has been interacting

55:02 To uncover the rest. Like Mick Jagger, that's not Gary McKinnon But Gary McKinnon took it upon himself a computer hacker to find out if the government had So it's, yeah, there we go. at the Ministry of Defense of England in the late 90s. They were in a place. I now know it's called calvine and hovering. Remember this is 1990, okay? And one of them had a camera and just as he

58:59 much Craig Lindsay RAF press officer and thank you David Clark for uncovering this because it's the most amazing picture ever and the two hotel workers in just outside the That's pretty solid evidence, right? talk to the witnesses, and they were telling him. telling him and he goes well they tell him what happened and he goes He said he went from the office where the Xerox machine was and before he can get back to his office his phone is ringing off the hook, MOD. And

1:01:50 He goes well. I don't know I stepped down so David Clark found Craig Lindsay and the way he found Craig Lindsay the guy that kept one of the prints is that he got a Yeah, so much for redactions, right? And so this whole dialogue starts going and they're I met with David Clark and his crew, the people that took the photograph. I'm ending production of the program and

1:04:10 I hate it. to be persistent, but I didn't want to annoy the guy to the point where he's like And then probably about 10 o'clock that night, I'm in the edit room buttoning the film up, were three guys in it, a driver and two men in suits in the back they started drinking heavily, and within a couple of weeks Show the fake one one more time. That put in a bunch of bullshit background.

1:07:20 And was that Harrier jet trying to figure out what this was? pope told me that they did everything they could to squash it because don't you think they probably Hang on, let me just scroll up here because I've got a really good, I got the original Looks exactly the same. Very interesting case. and probably got gun camp for it. Yeah, maybe he's in the 70s.

1:10:00 I was like I haven't done that before it's funny people that don't understand how to use their tell me if that goes through I got him Oh, I can totally imagine that this is a separate I found some drones that this these companies The question is, are any of these bona fide UAP? Okay, good. happen. 2022, 2023, 2024, and then he stepped down. because there's some mutual interest

1:13:32 hearings which was incredible and people say oh it's a big nothing burger but you Only one person go in at a time the doors open just like in Star Trek and you walk in and that door closes You guys got to throw us a bone I said, you know, we're not going away it's been well documented since the 1940s and possibly some people would say way of NHI and what's the plan to tell the general public? And this is just a couple

1:16:20 or potential whistleblowers or people to come forward in the program is because they were No question. I'm obviously going after, Jamie, go look at the one that I sent you. in the back. this straight up fast it started going fast faster faster faster and then was gone yep report on this but this lady who was the mother of the two daughters that saw

1:19:06 Yeah, we hadn't had any in over 50 years prior to that. It's definitely find out about it. They can't keep a secret, it's gonna leak. So they've been doing everything they Well, I mean, any members of Congress There's no question about it. Muscovsky was this from from Florida Garcia from California AOC New York that we have their backs and continuing to push for transparency, need to hear from the citizens and know that we support their efforts and that we have their backs and

1:21:58 about this stuff that's crazy We would obviously weaponize the technology. I mean, the exhibited technology that people say, The way Ryan explained it in terms of like the amount of force you would need is equivalent to how many nuclear bombs that he Documented close encounters of a third kind that's a beans connected. That's their own files, right? That's not me saying it, right?

1:24:18 If it's true. One thing I would do is connect it to a bunch of kooky stuff Well, I think- my research in the field. And remember, I spent over 12 years investigating on and off We give you the aid, but if a crash you have a you fucking call us Have you heard this story? than a New York accent. There's something about a British accent that just adds credibility

1:26:50 No, no. You're going to move us away from this? unredacted versions of that had been handed to select members of Congress and what's this case that you guys keep talking about it landed on the ground in the desert And I go, not a scratch, what? I don't know if it was the way they described the way the problem It's been 1975 whatever it was since he got abducted 50 almost 50 years so this guy

1:30:26 crazy I remember after imagine I know I was like if this is true. I was like Crazy He's like probably out there. Itm's Atari or God only knows. really is some sort of a civilization underwater that that has existed co-existed with us forever in the air, it's moving like that. You know, they call it transmedium or something And you wanted to hide in plain sight you would hide in the ocean

1:33:21 Yeah, but that was there's another thing about that case when the people went down that submarine, Ah, yes, I don't even know if this has been confirmed, but this is what I had heard methods and means or well And he came forward, and I remember, they're talking about this but getting back to your point because I know you You can't go after something

1:35:21 where they might be found, we reveal there's a gentleman that's used by the DoD and only available in a SCIF. And again, I remind you guys like, okay, just be patient. Oh, you're saying the drones you're talking about right now. He goes that's just that's the one of a US battleship that's capable of having these things? Right, so let's imagine, let's imagine you,

1:38:07 25 30 maybe 40 25. Yeah This is one of the stories that's been on the internet. like you could devise a drone that could search for that, like just a regular nuke that if you're looking for gamma rays like the you I'm like what is going on? They avoid tracking the RF signal, it doesn't show up. But let's look at China like China has highly advanced drones. Yeah, they're drunk

1:41:05 Obviously you have to have one because if you have some commercial drone that someone They're flying it over Langley, they're flying it over... Yeah, something like Bedminster. I'm worried about this has been happening. This is the third year in a row this has been happening right around There was a case that happened right here in Texas, Stephen He goes, no, man.

1:43:20 cause he was hunting, dear, this is 2008. as it went up into the belly of the craft. hmm, maybe this isn't such a good idea. I interviewed him in 2008 when this is going down and then I'm officer of so and so. And he said, you know Ricky Sorrells? yeah, he said we were sitting over there with our patrol that stuff exists. But my point is this object was so big, people claimed the witnesses,

1:46:07 on-camera interview for the longest time. He said, I'm not coming forward. I'm not going to do it. I would have missed it. helicopter spotlighting him up and he ended up calling the local Air Force It's not just the United States. And I remember interviewing Robert Salas, who was a launch control officer who described this whole event But no, yeah, yeah, so, you with the phenomenon, you look at what they do, right?

1:48:58 including the Governor, 5 Simon witnessed that massive, there were a number of UFOs very slowly to accelerating like warp drive. Boom, just gone. When the jet came back to the base, in a... I wonder why he had to do that, though. Force Base, we've got to the Pentagon and all these various services and we're going wanted to quiet, calm down the hysteria. But did he get a phone call to say, hey, kill

1:52:03 Like suddenly you get this massive sighting which would the software is a lot better nowadays, of it looks like a big, I can draw it. And so that image in the far left, that's, but that's the, that's it right there, right? what happened, because this is brilliant. So what happened was you got this massive military suddenly decided to drop flares and the shape of somewhat of the shape. So I think that some of the

1:54:50 that was saying hey let's investigate what these people are claiming they have Interstate 10 from Tucson to Phoenix. And so he's monitoring this and he hears And she said, yeah. said we're from Francis Barwood's office, we're here to pick up that footage. So he gives them She goes, well, what do you mean I'd heard a couple of stories prior to that. I thought this is too out there. This is too outlandish

1:57:21 Yeah, I don't know what's AI generated or whatever, but I… I'm gonna tell you how big this thing was. That's how big it was. same guy who came out with a fucking guy dressed up like yeah I know but I got him eyewitness testimony and provide a terrestrial or conventional explanation for. And those are the cases And I was like this is a time when we were pushing for transparency there

2:00:37 with Leslie Kane and it was like this whole move And he goes, James, no. public? What about the impacts on organized called Mengjiao Gua. And it happened in the Black Mountains and it was a Popovich, a number of generals and they were very open about it. In fact they I mean shit they had they had hearings back in 1978 at United Nations at least Beagle put on you know

2:03:42 that information and that we should continue to support this First-hand people that have that have had behind closed doors meetings, first hand people that are concerned mention is that there is a gentleman, a young man who's 30 and he feels like he's old. His name is When I turned 30, I was like, oh, I'm 30, This is rock and roll tub, but I really wanted to this is a guy who's young

2:06:00 ever be and he's young and he's a force to be reckoned with and he's really even if they're ours or they're China's or they're who, what's going on? How come you can't track them? How come like what kind of very bizarre? It doesn't even make sense was saying that he knows that the government knows right. It seems like they're so compartmentalized. What about the fear here at home of the drones?

2:08:24 Our military knows and our president knows. spend the weekend in Bedminster yeah wow I bet someone told him mr. president This is something that I really need to put out there because it's very important And I'm reaching... more information, the very specific details on X at James C. Fox. I just wanted to get that out there before because... explain everything in layman terms. What's happened from 2017 to today,

2:11:52 Rock but uh ask chat GPT what is really happening with the drones in New Jersey Chat GPT's gonna search the web. to national security or public safety. shared unverified theories about the drones purposes, further fueling Let me ask Rock or no? Okay, it knows that there's no federal evacuation orders. how well he's typing actually. I really am. While it's possible to imagine

2:15:59 Head west. Okay so now we're getting better so now it's saying go further away. Wow. Colorado, consider, scroll back up so I can read that, where it said Colorado. of living, and a sense of isolation. based on geographic, environmental, and strategic factors. GPT, if what percentage of UAP Have it still us. government has not officially okay commander but type this in commander David Fravor encountered a tick-tock, a tick-tack, tick-tack shaped craft in 2005, what, 2004?

2:19:14 Accelerated instantly from a hovering position descended from 80,000 feet to near sea level in seconds I asked the heads of Arrow if they could explain that one Okay, so if the accounts of the tick- tacs craft's capabilities are accurate instantaneous acceleration hypersonic speeds eliminates air resistance such as surrounding itself in an Yeah. The extraordinary nature of the case suggests an equally extraordinary explanation

2:23:09 known exoplanets, and plausible scientific ideas about interstellar travel. away what was the closest one office Alpha Centauri was that? Pretty close. and his brother would be an old man. I can't wrap my mind around that. Yeah, I think instead of like- Like you've talked to a lot of physicists about this kind of stuff, huh? do is instantaneously appear in these new places.

2:25:25 drive. And the way Babazar explained it is that this element when bombarded with suddenly those two points connect. Exactly. Conventional, you know rockets Yeah. would just splatter. That you're immune from that on the inside, according to a certain It creates its own gravity field and allows it to just pass through things. You know all day long and there was nothing. Well, we can't see that right and

2:28:46 He knows more than what he's saying. This is what he said. If aliens are real, they're very subtle Something a couple weeks ago, I believe they think it was a couple weeks ago It takes the human mind out the human mind is very fallible But it certainly would be way easier to do that than it would be to get a human being to be safe in it So he put a clip up of us talking about it on the podcast.

2:31:28 Yeah, he doesn't he doesn't even entertain the idea of UFOs not going to ask him. I think his position as being the guy at SpaceX, why would you that's the guy, he's gonna know. And now you can catch them, and he drove a Tesla way early on He goes, I don't work for Elon anymore. Oh, Jesus Christ. and if you don't, you can't work there. It's just that simple. Like, if you want that, hop on in.

2:34:05 And I stepped on it, a model three performance. I've been doing all this stuff. and you don't seem like a douche bag. He's like, oh yeah, I can hear you. You have to. you're almost like a gnat or something. I had three friends. And he wound up getting his motorcycle. His leg was, and it fucked up his career for years. saw someone get hit, saw someone get rear ended,

2:37:11 I don't know if a mountain lion would be scared of a motor. Yeah, I'd be able to outrun it. would lead to NHI or non-human intelligence or not conventional, what of our stuff, but then there's stories like the things, Yeah, and it seemed like like the Manhattan Project and like the stealth bomber That was phenomenal, yeah. Sea Scrolls. What are you describing?

2:40:33 big eyes and big heads, almond-shaped eyes, blah, blah, blah. drawings are amazing. They look like the Wanj one Gina cave art I was like the what the one Yes, yeah very bizarre right One of the witnesses You've been deep in this rabbit hole for a long time, sir