Joe Rogan Experience #2254 — Mel Gibson Transcript
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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Yeah. That's hilarious. What can you do? And like Hippocrates, the father of medicine, he said, in any ailment, look first to the because you're always like, ugh. No, nobody is. the time. Happy. Should never be upset. Yeah. Well. It's not realistic. It's But like this morning, for example, I would be surprised if my home is still there.
3:26 He's in a sort of volunteer fire brigade, Milo. Do you think this will get you out of California finally? Oh, nice. chopped up by a machete and Costa Rica is actually, it's actually a cool place because and it's kind of interesting in that way. But it deals with its own little troubles. And apparently, you know, people were rolling heads into bars and stuff like that, you know,
6:17 gonna happen, it's gonna happen. And everybody's going to be okay until they're not. A little. Oh, so what happened with you? It was the Thomas guide. Anyway, I wasn't guided well by Thomas. I ended up in the wrong And the guy said, man, I'm just looking for some money. I opened the trunk to see what I could find to help me put the muffler back on.
9:05 I cut a piece of wire, wired the muffler up. thought what's this she says it's just wives and ones give it to me so I threw Ingredients in AG1 are selected for absorption, nutrient So things are more dangerous now. the forest and maintain the forest and do all that kind of stuff. He didn't do anything. And California is the best. It's just unbelievable that society can crumble that quickly. It really is
12:32 Well that brings me to one of my favorite movies of yours is Apocalypto. thought, hey, somebody built that. Trying to extract this pre-classic city from the jungle and there's not a bunch of tourists all the pyramids in Tikal like that unless they kind of happened upon a civilization that was pretty dissatisfied Well, because I think it's scary because nobody's speaking your language. And you're looking
15:44 Yeah. I mean, we do that. Kinda. We do. Yeah. The human sacrifice aspect is is alive and well in our society it didn't happen. But there are accounts from the time where, yes, people did witness these things. And of course, I had a bunch of I said, a foot chase. Otherwise, you have a car chase. arrival of Europeans. And I thought, it's kind of like the Rod Serling, you know, Planet
19:02 there. And of course, then we read the book by Jared Diamond, Collapse. hell and getting their father's head and swimming back and it's this crazy story. And it kind Yes looking through some sort of an eye thing. And of course they did come back, but it didn't work out the same. Well, first of all, the Amazon used to be filled with people and most of the
21:46 this until fairly recently. And they now know from flying over looking for it like the lost city of z like that. That story That was the swine thing. It was terrible. Terrible. Wallowing in my own mud. four hours of like watching autism dry. It's like, you know, it's 85, 90 minutes. We hint at it And they were, where did the English language come from?
24:58 all of a sudden, you're not buying it. of foreign films. I watched French movies, right? Or German or whatever they were, Spanish. And also, it has to take your attention, I know when I first started it was kind of confusing, but then I got really good at it and I think You bet we are. New DraftKings customers can bet five bucks to get $200 in bonus bets instantly.
27:57 On behalf of Boothill Casino and Resorting Kansas, Oh yeah, no there was. Because it's big subject matter. stuff to the full. So depicting that was an honor, but it was also, yeah, you got Colonialism, you know, whatever it you know, whatever it represents. It's negative. Yeah, sure. It's gotten a bad rap and Benedict. Oh, not Benny. Yes, absolutely. Benedict.
30:37 But he's covering up for stuff as well. it's running an entirely different religion. I actually don't, I don't adhere an hour later, black smoke came out. That never in history has that happened, that the white smoke came out and hour later black smoke came out that never in history has that happened That somebody was elected and that maybe something else happened and he was pushed aside to someone
33:06 I'll get you in the chair and then everything will be rosy, you know. Well, whenever you have that kind of power, like I'm sure you've been to the Vatican, right? city no and then it's got a country inside the city. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Boy. necessarily agree with everything that went before it. And up to that point, I don't know what that is. But you know, if that's his contention, he shouldn't be the pope.
36:35 Well, that constitutes apostasy. Moses goes up on the mountain, he comes Probably. And my question is, why are we even important? Every morning when I wake up, I actually pray that I don't you're a person who just you're all of a sudden you're in a fight with a guy you You're a different kind of person than person acts in the act sure you're in your animal passion
40:00 And sometimes you say and do things that are socially unacceptable. And, you know, I went and got a brain scan by this guy called Daniel Amen, And he goes, first, no, first he went like this. He says, you got the worst case of PTSD I have ever seen. And it was, he had a very miraculous and great remedy for it, which was to eat a bunch of fish oil, vitamin B
41:48 And your brain is neuroplasticity. And so it actually you can factor. Yeah, I played from like 13 to probably my late teens. That's what people are realizing now. It was Brian Ortega and he was getting his ass handed to him in one fight. He almost got him a couple of times. And then when you talk to them, you recognize the speech patterns are slurring.
44:30 And and then he said it and we all were like whoa, and then I looked at him He was just laughing. He was laughing his ass off. So he was still all in there, but it was hard That always makes me laugh too, but we used to do it you know well you kind of have to right Oh, yeah. No, you're not. I got a concussion at my daughter's wedding. This is really weird, okay? So she's
46:25 And like, for the next four months, I'm messed up. Yeah, yeah. But it's not just, it's not linear because you can't really, it's hard to understand. So it's gotta accounts, verifiable historical accounts, outside the biblical ones that also bear this Yeah. historical accounts? Yes. I think My memory is pornographic, but it's like his was like I don't have that that kind of mind, right?
50:12 some discussion and debate about it, but they used to think that it was only a couple hundred And it's wild. that he was about six feet tall, that he was completely scourged all over his body. He yeah yeah scourged beaten yeah crap the wounds on the thorns the hands and the scourging Yeah, so that would date it. I have two different articles from within the last six months saying opposite things.
52:46 that Jesus was covered in? So you're saying Jesus historically absolutely did exist and And that's OK. And that they believe the Ark of the Covenant is in this one church that's protected by all these monks that wind up getting cataracts and radiation disease and sickness. Maybe. Who knows? I mean, it's got to be someplace, right? that that they manage to keep from, like for example, they say that Golgotha, the place where the
55:14 So it's interesting. thought it was... Does date to the time of Jesus? A nuclear researcher? Jesus Christ. The other one was Specifically the authors did find its age is roughly consistent with his time Nope. That's what it, you only see, yourself you know and I mean I don't think it's any secret I am flawed in It's a spiritual program because you're suffering your spiritual malady, you know, yeah, so it's a spiritual cure
59:14 That is the problem with addiction, right? Sure, I need it. And no matter what you need, it's never going to be enough. do about this. I have to appeal to something better than me and that to me is a miracle i mean why am i here what's the meaning of this And I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be sharing a cell in the afterlife with those guys have to think about the other side. You have to think about what comes next. Is there a next? Yes, there
1:02:19 Yes. first ever confirmed canonization as a saint was Dismas. You know You know who dismissed was? No. He was hanging, Eh. legless thing that crawled out of the ocean. I don't think I came from that. You can like, you can make stuff happen. Not that we don't have chaos in the world, but I think that's our own making. and do dope and all this kind You know, Joseph Campbell's stuff, the hero with a thousand faces and stuff.
1:07:35 There was Sean Ryan, who's, he's got, Yeah, yeah, Eddie Gallagher. I was talking to four of these guys at the same time and I didn't know who did And with no regard for himself only regard for other people and it was like extraordinary way. And that's one of the reasons why we like stories yeah why we like myths and With no regard for himself. do you believe that evolution exists in animals?
1:11:03 really I'm sorry I can't intellectually tell you why I don't believe in evolution, but I don't. evolution. And they discovered that it was a human skull attached to the jaw of an ape. What do you know like? You know Australia Pythagoras. There's there's a bunch of different, you know, the Lucy skeleton. I don't know. But this is like a genetic thing.
1:13:32 I do. Really? Well, yeah. And I don't have to. It doesn't. And I just like, you know, I look at all sorts of stuff like that, like, you The hot greenhouse, whatever. that we're gonna destroy the world and climate change you must act now and then you most important thing for anybody that's really freaked out about climate change Whoa. this idea that the whole thing is based on carbon emissions from human beings is total bullshit.
1:18:06 figure out civilization again after that. Well, they think a lot of dinosaurs had feathers now. I'm so desperate. just going, fuck. than being publicly humiliated? Public speaking and because of that, public humiliation. Sure. Yeah. Happens all the time. Because we're so concerned And you think, well, why? Well, why? Yeah. sued yeah how come there's no lawsuits if there was lies there would be lawsuits
1:21:19 It was an AIDS crisis. and they were horsing around and a bat pissed on them with a golden shower, you know, and they're pitching that horse shit. I read that book. for someone being on the podcast. who is like, his work on cancer is, you know, And then on top of that, you're prescribing this chemical, this AZT, that kills people. It was killing him. Yeah. Yeah, I read it and like it's even with RFK's book and and he's an amazing guy people say
1:24:32 They don't want to do anything Oh. Yeah. Well, hey, other mysteries. what he pardoned him. It's the biggest sweeping pardon than anyone's ever received ever Evil. have motivations, they do bad things, but they don't want to believe in the concept know? I don't know. I read mostly history books. You ever hear of this guy? he thought he'd be indicted for some crime or something and he ended up being
1:28:48 So I think the guy took about 15 years to sort of compile all this stuff and write it. I'm going to get that right now. Have you ever read The Empire of the Summer Moon? Yeah. It's been about 80 years since the last big war. It used to cost him 30 bucks But that's what's so bizarre about the time that we just went through because there's Right. So it's like saying penicillin is for horses, because they use that on
1:31:54 It's been used on literally prescribed billions I couldn't stop. And it's a silly title, right? you have first stage emphysema. but it worked. okay, we focused on the negative aspects of smoking, But it was sort of like self-hypnosis Some cells are incredible and the fact that you can't get them the way they can get them in overseas I think so. are promoting these things.
1:35:11 You fucked us for four years with this COVID thing. with a bunch of comorbidities. No, that car was falling the fuck apart. and we both went to the same hospital, I couldn't walk for three months after I had that stuff. Which brings us back again to evil evils real it's real putting money over human lives is evil I have three friends. Phenbendazole, yeah.
1:38:19 very strange because again it's profit when you when you hear about things that I do all that stuff. It's fantastic. And he gets shit on all over the place, too. It's part of my everyday life. But luckily the general is stronger than the inner bitch Yeah. They did a study out of Israel. That makes sense to me. A little bit. what year was this when this was happening?
1:42:04 kind of get into quantum physics and move One time he was working on me and he was working on my liver. He knows where everything is. You know my office and I'm looking and I can see him in the background and he's like down like this like that. And he was a cross between Jimmy Stewart and Homer Fudd. it was within the realm of possibility that somebody had power like that.
1:44:55 And this is a crazy story. for, they had to earn it. And when he would get them and bestow the knowing upon them, he would touch their head know? And even an evil person who's running a cult and manipulating people right so I thought I got to check this out because this is too weird and he He knew when I was sick. And he could, oh, this is the other thing.
1:47:59 to harness this energy and to actually begin what seemed to be almost like involuntary remember but it's like you know I didn't stick with it but it was but but he he It was like that. Yeah, they wouldn't be practicing to save movements for all these years if it didn't do something. Yeah, pretty interesting And so, you know, you fall down. But I wanna stay fit if I can.
1:50:55 Yeah. How old are you? Yeah. I mean, yeah, so I was in reasonable shape at 58. That's what I do. Yeah. Yeah. Well, if anything looks demonic, it's the fires in Los Angeles. I remember one time If you can't breathe, I mean, come on. looking at me, and I'm saying, Well, you probably got choked out. But of course, we did. I was fortunate enough to work with with Horian Gracie. 39 years
1:54:11 Okay. Yeah, she's legit. No, she is. Yeah. Because you can kind of get away with a lot if you're a big strong guy You have to. she's done some exceptional things I've heard. So it's like, yeah, it's pretty good. Which is also evil. like what do you look forward to these days? You can do things to affect people emotionally or spiritually even without being overt.
1:58:07 It's a feast for the eyes. The other thing, too, is we're living in a different time now in the film world. I mean, everything's upside down and you have to compete in a medium where you have less time, less money. Do it I'm glad you liked it.'m glad you liked it and that's all I want I just want people to have a nice And that's going to take some sacrifice.
2:00:28 Well, it was fascinating to watch him work actually. Right. What was that called? The Last Temptation. And I saw this cord on the side of the bed and I pulled it. And all of a sudden a door of Christ, and he wants me to play Jesus Jesus and I said, I'm not doing it. I'm like, I tried to explain that I thought it was my room, but it wasn't. Kavizel, plain Christ. my face. It's fantastic. Anyway, but what were you talking about?
2:03:42 A little bit. Because Associated him entirely with that film and then they associated him with Christianity It did have a profound effect on him. Of course, you couldn't keep the blue eyes. And he's still kind of like that. Yeah, yeah. happening on the set, you know? got hit by lightning the first time getting people. We were out on the hill and there
2:06:36 We could be struck by lightning. experience and he comes back the next day and he's like, yeah, it was great. And then It was... the money in and I thought, well, maybe I'll break even. serial killer. that? Yeah, Robert Murdoch said, you know, he wanted to and then he said, and then somebody advised Yeah. It was in another language. So I thought, oh, that's funny.
2:11:25 In DVD and streaming and all that? It's just primal. Yeah. And we wrote it. When you put something like that together, how do you choose who's going to be the next Jesus? the... The fall of the angels, right? Yeah, which is you're in another place. You're in another realm And I think, um, I have ideas about how to do that. But it's not about me, you know, right about something else
2:15:33 So that's a title. And it's just going to roll in its own time. Yeah. consult with someone like a biblical scholar? Oh yeah So it's hard to explain, but it's quite involved. you think? You could. Will you begin it in Aramaic or in Hebrew? Maybe. Yeah, Aramaic You've made some really awesome pieces in your life was no plan, do it. I'll tell you that. No. There still kind of isn't. I still kind of
2:20:07 Terrence Howard? Yeah, he's out there. 25th? Yeah, 24th. Okay. So soon. Yeah. It's fun. It is fun. Yeah. I enjoyed it. Thank you very much. Bye everybody.