Joe Rogan Experience #2261 — Warren Smith Transcript

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0:00 Joe Rogan podcast, checking out. you were talking to students, you know, for that technically I think I got I got fired for posting another one similar to it, but I think they were looking I think they genuinely like we don't know what to do because if we fire him the way you were handling it. It was like, you know, very calm and rational, just having

2:39 with a bunch of Mac computers, They would send them there. And he was getting really nervous on the day We do have conversations like that because when you are doing something like this with students And when you're in those debates, the kids were like locked in and you can tell. And when they feel like there's like a lot of social pressure to adhere to a very specific

5:29 And the videos were exciting, It gave me hope. I was like, more people should be doing this at schools and you I've been playing with the idea of how we see that make up the world. a filmmaking course still where I went to grad school We've all been there. ExpressVPN is an easy to use app button to make everything you do online private. And if you're watching on YouTube, you can get your four free months by scanning the

9:35 it, human civilization and human history, like modern society is so recent. You know, the Industrial Revolution and giant cities mainstream television and how mainstream television, you know, they're trying to So they're so hampered. And if you go back and watch the early broadcast from 1945, people Yeah. the best actors are doing both the external.

12:06 and it ties into everything about critical thinking. It's the best metaphor I ever got What's not said, what they do with the words, the intention behind the words, and you get it's politically incorrect, It has great utility. So it's pretty interesting. Because I remember maybe it was even earlier than that because I arrived at graduate school in 2016

14:47 nowhere? Was it like right after the election? Like did you what year did you first attend? get something so wrong? And that caused me to question my presuppositions, basically my view all of a sudden, you feel like you're waking up Yeah, I think we'd like to adhere that's a real expert. And we thought we think of politicians and we think of the media as being

17:48 mmm professor means something yes politician means something these are A shirt off it was really funny. It was fun. It was a fun time In the beginning they were so cocky and so confident So it's supposed the news is supposed to be at its best an objective analysis of what's going on giving you the facts Yeah, you know, I'm just trying to go back to those days and think about it but

20:54 But the white students were not allowed to speak we had to concede our space for four hours and actually like what? What can I do? vividly the teacher, I was going to be teaching the screenwriting course with undergraduates That objectively she deserved. been missing American food and this place has fried chicken. So, and it's really Like fried chicken is delicious, watermelon is delicious.

24:35 Fantastic, so the best fried chicken you're ever gonna have in your life there's active racism at my college, I'm a victim, guiding star for you. It can be wielded in both ways. It's like the If you believe in that definition of transphobia, don't have a logical ability to shut this down because if you did you would I can't even, I can't even do this.

27:14 Is she but it was often a formation of that pattern? particularly we protected women against predatory men right like Feared we've always feared people that would try to take advantage of women and They were deeply erections and all that it's like is it fair to her and they just can't right it Like without any logic at all. They just like say you don't think you don't know

31:15 cult-like thinking, right? And, you know, they'll push back against it in a way that's I don't like any of those labels. Try betting on something simple like a player to score six go to DraftKings sportsbook app and make your pick new DraftKings or visit ccpg.org. My parents are the same right exactly the same there. I'd rather be homeless blue no matter who right there just locked in

33:54 Bizarre, but I don't consider myself a Republican. I don't consider myself a Democrat either and pretend that what they're saying is not logical because I think when you put up those blinders, Like they're lying so often, they exists. And the only way they can find someone who will buy into their bullshit is if someone and you're incapable of looking at any sort of

36:29 So as a teacher, you really learn that reality Well, it's a crazy I was watching this left wing podcast where they were discussing being gaslit about the under-reported and that people are being released for even violent crimes very quickly, which It's really interesting. So he broke it down, like, all right, that people wanted to be true at Harvard,

40:11 Yeah. analyze all that and say, wait a minute, you're turning down 60% black people It's 40% across whatever color the driver is. Mm-hmm. That means we've done I'm going to judge each case based on a merit, regardless of, because are you going to default or not? goal you all the police are meeting that morning. Our job is to go out and recover contraband

43:18 And so that was problematic for a lot of people. They did want to hear that. 70% of Equal yeah, essentially that would be a form of equity equality of outcome versus equality of opportunity, right? and it could be fixed. There's been And crime and poverty causes people you you imitate your environment I agree if we look at it through a socioeconomic lens

46:45 don't get the tax or the award, your solution. Well, their ancestors weren't oppressed. So You know, they, I hate people from Philly. Yeah. You don't have to think as much Notebooks on fire that guy might be out of his fucking mind front yard, like that's a problem. of jail and you've been psychologically scarred since you were a baby because they beat you

49:46 No the problem is we've got a bunch of people that are really fucked up, you know, and we Like, that's the root. can give you tools and objective reasoning and an understanding of how along and provide that role model. Right, or finding something that you can do favorite, he came So they would literally sit him in my room of comes along and they're like, yeah, but he's not doing academic drawings that are not relevant

53:24 He's like, I don't want to go in the field. You don't make me go on a field trip one day and he was like, um, he made an offhand passing comment. He's like, I don't want to go on the field. it up the chain. I don't think he should have been kicked out. I know this kid though. He's photo printer we would and but they were like well how's he gonna make a living drawing Japanese

55:12 That's what I was interested in. I was like third. You're gonna have to draw diaper commercials. because he didn't have any hope. I want to do like what Joe Rogan is doing. Whatever. It's the but the school was kind of he can't make money on YouTube But that's not why you got lucky you got lucky because you put out good content saying these awful things?

58:06 It should scare you, because a lot of times they're demonetizing things should have monetized? Like if you're saying, it's crazy. You're saying accurate things So when we were only on Spotify, all of our videos, all of our episodes got were only on Spotify. So when we were only on Spotify, all of our videos, all our episodes got released We'll put it on YouTube, put it on Apple, put it on, but it's a Spotify exclusive and

1:00:00 Jamie? Then it applied to that right. I just still had I because initially, the government narrative was that it was incorrect I should probably. And I'm so dependent on YouTube that I'm never trending I saw never trying what's trending then tell me what trending is Should have gotten a million. controlled. to determine which videos are trending, applies strict content filters to keep the trending lists family-friendly.

1:04:15 Well, don't they like views? about something else. It was someone reacting to it. Yeah live We just said, let's just release it now. I talked to Spotify and talked to Elon They just took it when it was a problem finding it and they just uploaded it to their own channel on X a lot maybe that could throw it off. I don't know. You know I don't even I don't want to ask because I don't think

1:07:31 That is crazy. Yeah, I, you know, I wanted to see like, we were clearly being manipulated. We were clearly very coherent. He's got an amazing amount of energy. Guy sat here for three hours, and we There's ways to do that. Yeah, that was a. the Hollywood Hills pre-climate change, 1961. LA has always been dry as fuck. The weather's incredible. wind. Um, I know I have it just give me a second. I will find it documentaries called

1:11:54 and it's one of those guys talking like this because that's how they talked in We need help from the police department. want to use this binary thing, you know. fire season and every time the winter would come and everything was dry and all the vegetation was brown and the wind was whipping around, everybody would get nervous. So why didn't they adapt? Like I lived in LA for two years. I'm on the volunteer fire department

1:15:25 Yeah, it's possible and the problem with this past fire and there's here's another thing video footage of the three fires that are started semi-simultaneously that Do you see Gavin Newsom's gonna is this gonna be the end of him or people gonna put up with it? I over again and they still win elections, then there's no incentive for them to correct course.

1:18:15 I think it was people that emigrated here civil rights and human rights and all the things that we're terrified of from right So you have record growth of all these grasses and brush and all this stuff. orange juice I saw one guy and like it's so it's difficult to have those two was, right where all the woods were, where the wind was at its back. And then they started

1:20:54 At one point in time, it was 0% contained. How enormous the amount of land that was destroyed the amount of homes that were destroyed and not just destroyed See that? ground and will eventually seep into the water. But what's in the fucking smog now? It's just a bad place for air. do you know the story of the toxic burn pits from Iraq? No. In Afghanistan. So during the

1:25:05 It's the same kind of thing that's happening in LA. All the time. you don't even want to shower. You just want to close your fucking eyes. You're working 100%. Well, if it's still up, not just like a political tool, they're saying like the Nat Pichard, PhD, MPH, PhD, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, to the same spot you're real weird if to start back up five days later but yeah

1:28:09 originally monkey wrenching was sabotaging Well, there's disturbed individuals in our society. and it's just housing, housing, housing. There were fake firefighters that were arrested One of those firefighters has a history of arson. Where do you get a fake fire truck? Yeah, he's like dedicated. He's like the Michael Jordan of fake fire There was hundreds that weren't repaired.

1:31:12 I 2018 both of them like when you were talking about it in that clip that goes around It's like you there's nothing they can do exactly right wind yes That's not impossible. And they didn't and it was incompetent and it was poor planning and it was you know, they had a lot of the Tatchapie area like we're near Tahone Ranch. We're filming this thing at this ranch

1:34:03 So this has always been a problem with LA. people posted them, but they were all out of commission You know, I'll just sit in there and problem. Cause they, they didn't, they had one guy they found with a, So it's like a real problem person and they were like, hey can shift things in California, like appeal to people's concerns when it comes to social

1:37:25 do is make a more fiscally sound city and have more conservative policies in terms of Something that's going to progress the idea better. unique than New York in that You can't be a part of the team will hire left-wing people, these people will not hire right-wing people. So you see everyone Oh yeah. when I'm teaching that class on filmmaking, And so they get their fame from their small social media.

1:40:47 It's the technology I think is going to revolution. We're on the precipice of this. We were talking The strikes had a lot to do with it. I think it's, It could be in my theory is it could be the tipping point because it's going non my on the equivalence of like Game of Thrones, she created the comments section at Daily Wire. Break it down for the- What happened? She developed, developed they hired her like we want you to start the yeah

1:43:35 I have had the most unbelievable three years helping to craft the show, building this community But at this point in my life, And I wish her and the Daily Wire all the best. Yeah, and it's nosed-dived. It's pulling like it used to pull like half a million views per video starred in the pin dragon cycle. She used to act. What was the problem though?

1:46:02 blows up and they realize like oh I could have done this on my own which is the reality the reality is like being a notoriously horrible with that. So they have a model where when they sign an artist, the artist gets an advance, right? They might fund a bunch of different artists. Pridot distribution He changed his name to a symbol. if you want the shortcut, right?

1:48:29 And then getting advertising is not hard. telling you what kind of guests you I'm bringing into the company. I But the whole thing behind it is, like, you're getting money to agree to be a part of a company. And just, that's it. Pretty extraordinary a lot of people would have caved and they did not cave I think when you're writing a movie, that you're trying to connect to

1:52:15 Yeah, as opposed to today where people think they can make movies for the audience like Disney and but they're in. So the golden ratio can be found in music, and all of his movies, it's an ascending tone, like a barbershop spiral that is It's because it never reaches a crescendo. what separates him so there's a math he seems uniquely uninfluenced by pop

1:55:50 Personal vision based on what I know what I would want to see right yeah it Yeah. It is. It's a fascinating medium, right? Because now it's Yeah. Yeah, where the the show is like a Homeland first season was incredible and it is like a movie. It's really good who's playing his daughter, You're gonna hire someone over 18 for labor laws for sure. So she's definitely how about to hire someone that's 18

1:58:32 So when he's got this dynamic or he's dealing this like wild with oil everything in your hair everything in your goddamn, is that what he says? Everything in your goddamn life is made with oil. Everything in your hair, everything in your car, everything in You're dealing with, we actually pulled this up recently, we were talking about it was But you don't have to use them because when you let off the brakes or let off the gas rather the the car slows itself

2:00:53 You know, the car that I was in didn't have it turned on. And some of those cars just go right through those guardrails. And the only solution to that, we talked about it, So if you have in a place that is high traffic and like stop-and-go traffic you get brake dust everywhere That doesn't mean anything. But regenerative braking, again, result in worse particulate pollution but it makes sense it's logical so if

2:04:11 you have regenerative braking, but there's also an added element. I've got a hybrid RAV4. Fiberglass propellers that now have to be buried in the ground and Billy Bob goes on a good rant about the way Oh, I didn't know that. and fucking make that state just a battery, Well, it's also the fire insurance problem that a lot of insurance companies pulled their fire coverage because they're like look

2:06:36 This is horrible. No. That's not responding at all you look shell-shocked million rather than pay teachers more money? In North Carolina, in the middle of Appalachia, Mm. where the climate was absolutely predictable The pollution in the particulate, that's a real issue. They're like, majority of the pollutants in the atmosphere are coming from there and they're not gonna change. So you

2:09:52 climate. Long before there was any industrial revolution, long before there was any gas-powered student there'd be 15 people in the class yeah when I showed my thesis film I went Something that's you want to do and then there was the one-child policy for a long time so they can afford to do it everything's not just a social construct and doesn't mean that there's not an ideal to

2:12:24 of the problem. What's the biggest part of the problem. What's What's the rethinking of Winston Churchill? of critical thinking. Unthinkable. Harvard's role the president of Harvard meeting with Churchill secretly when the blitz was but we can't be seen. I was like, how is no one? they can't build it. They're cut off from the world. All of Europe has fallen

2:16:16 bring that tech back, develop a secret lab at Harvard to build it all. That's where Sonar came Yeah, but this is the thing this is what I found out last night That's what they did. So they would use this photo of me That's crazy. How crazy is that? How about that that Hindu guy that kept his arm up in the air for like 60 years? He has a useless right arm now look at his fingers are all twisted up and fucked up his nails are all fucked up Now he's like a really old man. That's what he looks like. OK. How crazy is that? That's crazy.

2:19:39 Nuts. How's he on handling this whole? The Trumps in office and he's a Nazi and this is with fascism is real folks. Here it is Yeah, the power of story. What it does is it opens the door for people like yourself it opens the door for reasonable I like how this guy talks. Yeah. don't know rarely I would love to have on though I'm a huge fan of his work. I think he's brilliant. Yeah, obviously is it not just brilliant like amazing like unusual

2:23:42 Yeah, it was Roger Avery. Roger Avery and Tarantino. scenes that never made it into it that Kubrick wanted in and then in the final cut they changed yeah the that has the Apollo rocket on it. So in his novel the Jack Nicholson character forget the name and the Jack Nick Nicholson character as a television mini-series. Why was he thought you're a good actor? There's right

2:26:42 he wouldn't be doing stuff like that. Which movie? I was watching Turn what off? 2001 is a fascinating move you miss a lot of it when you you have to like rewatch it over and over again to get the form of those patterns. There's like a natural inclination that people have to like uncover secrets like what's the secret behind this? What is he really saying? Yeah

2:28:53 Why did you decide to call it that? dude, it's not, that's not, don't hold that to the standard of like the other ones you can hold to a You can look at it, I guess. All that stuff is very educational. And then why is it that this is not necessarily the truth? And he has no superpowers, just his mind. So that's kind of playing with the art of, that's why the slogan on the channel is the

2:31:55 critical thinking. People, they gravitate towards it because there's not a lot of those on if you want to move in the company. If you want to exit If you exist in an academic environment, it was very clear rules They're not logical. Now, because of your show and a bunch of your Jordan Peterson, a bunch of different Yeah, I reading Elon's books, like on the airplane, he had that algorithm. It's essentially,

2:34:53 going against a culture that has operated with impunity for so long and whatever Bobby Kennedy is gonna have to jump through to make real change and You know he's going to get rid of all that, people with dinosaur skin cancer, Boy, good luck. Like I said, when I saw you, I was like, I'm allowed to call you're just a kid. That reaches a million people when I was talking about this this

2:38:00 There are 200 students in the auditorium. because they don't want to put themselves out there. That school was terrified that their name Yeah. Yeah, it's nuts. And it never existed before. And there's a lot of resistance because Why? That's what you're supposed to get. It's like there's just so many other people if you had if hoist Gracie had a jujitsu match with a giant bodybuilder and the

2:41:18 I've seen her be really funny. trying to dismount and they don't know how to. They didn't want to talk about the legalization of marijuana, but that was probably because We could talk about the environment. no discussion whatsoever about topics he'll talk about anything and just talk. lawsuit that's still going on right now it is CBS correct what were his ground

2:44:27 Logical and made more sense. It was much more succinct and short and he was saying like you fucking idiots He's got a real point, because you shouldn't allow them if you run into president. people should be able to see that Now people are going to say that is your opinion period. This is your perspective period where meanwhile if she had time to consider that

2:46:38 They must have had some sort of logical reason why a certain amount of censorship is important because you want to protect against saying if you can't say Bruce Jenner? Because if you, you know, if you want to look at the That Elon's using on X short of the law freedom speech short of the law. We already have that because there's going to be in capitalism.

2:48:46 I really enjoy what you're doing. I appreciate you. And thank you for being here. Tell everybody