Joe Rogan Experience #2264 — Lenval Logan & Jason Sands Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. I'm a retired Master Sergeant from the Air Force, And Logan, you were in the documentary as well, so tell everybody what you do. So him and Leslie Keene approached me and I was like, yeah. I had had a childhood experience with a UFO previous to that when I was 10 years old. nobody responded so I ran out to get my binoculars my dad's binoculars and ran

3:39 So, you know, it's pretty big. It was enough for probably your eye to stand up in it and walk around a little bit and And so this was all when you were young and so you had this memory in calls that literally were speaking about an NHI presence in the program and they were working in Of course. down? I did not. what I did on the red team that I was on for the program because I was monitoring for the

6:38 There was an officer. this. This episode is brought to you by me undies when date night comes around It helps you look and feel amazing. Try them for yourself if your first pair of underwear isn't a match made in heaven, And so how does the conversation go where the non-human intelligence gets brought up? Yes. They talked about sundry other things, just stupid stuff.

10:03 You probably can't give me enough PPE gear and hazmat gear to make me feel safe around these things and no So it's not really a forced landing, it's just kind of a mutual thing. to get the retrievals. So you've got really what amounts to a bunch of treasure hunters How long has this supposedly been going on for? But it's just, radar is just a detection signal, right?

12:51 And we're just sweeping like a radar and it caused this crafted crash. What a shit design I'd like to add something here. what someone told me. Now I've never been able to figure out if that's the because like like if you're gonna go visit an uncontacted tribe in the Amazon doing. Wouldn't you know about radar? And wouldn't you have like a system to prepare

15:31 just didn't have their countermeasures up or something. There could have been some type of Things that make you go, hmm, I'm not sure. another hospital and then two weeks later this guy's dead and he just he got unbelievably sick. There's nothing they could do to help him storm. If you're in a plane you can go above the storm. You know how like your

17:44 You know, we've made similar stupid decisions when it comes to battles and I know but I would just assume they're way better than us Yes. And maybe it would say logically it would interfere if we were about to blow each other I've seen that stupidity right? Oh, yeah And if it does, that system seems like it wouldn't need to explore at all unless it's

20:31 the universe. and these dipshits blew each other up. And just maybe that's a thing that they do throughout the universe like farmers. and then the humans could come in. So it's a very precarious little game they're playing. saying that this UFO came to Holman and landed and actually talked to the president Oh, they did that. Oh, they did this one Because probably we're like a bunch of children. We're like, you're too stupid to figure this

23:25 Right. And everybody gets all excited and then I was like, okay, we're just kidding. He's like, why would they be interested in us? what makes it tick. It could be better than Red Bull. What if Mars water just makes you go back in time like you look 20 again? if to be what people are saying that's that's the craziest of all theories What does it look like a couple of billion years later?

26:31 of the universe itself, Right, we're fucking shooting fireworks on 4th of July. it seems the more I think about it the more that they are very much like us in Let's let it go. So advanced that we don't have all the same greed and lust and all the bullshit that ruins them away from us. different things so a bird Right. Scoring touchdowns is key to hoisting the Vince Lombardi

30:45 Call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org. There's so many different kinds of birds, too. There's no bones there so, you know, you're not going to find any fossils anywhere. free chain? You start to stand on your two legs and whatever, and then I think about if it's a well, what's the best structure for a body? They're so little. They're saying some of these spiders were the size of small dogs I'm like yeah that's not a place I'd like to

34:35 That makes sense because the harder shell would prevent that limb from continuing to grow. Let's all become mantises. We do everything on our mind. Have you talked to anybody that has said that any of the crafts have controls in them? Distracted just use your hands put your hands down on the thing they're just using their mind. about these folks that came forward about the psionics team

38:00 kind of a disc. that's not what they're putting into your head? Because like what they to question everything. You know, there's a crazy documentary called Holy Hell, and it's about this guy who is and they say it really happened. And this is the best expression that you can have in life. You know, we'd want to do that. There is an interface going on right? I'm just wondering is that too heavy-handed because they're not seeing the full human

41:45 more profound than what we've currently experienced. they don't trust the government at all in this other thing. of this? Please don't take this the wrong way because people get angry. It's kind of try it if you I tell everybody I'm black and I'm afraid of the woo okay but at And I sat there and I go, why is it that we're so, you know, reserved about going. And I remember something that someone told me was,

44:50 Also, like what do you, I mean, people say that, yeah, if I could experience UFO contact, Yeah, well it would ruin your whole life you're always chasing after that first best feeling that you ever had. You never, you're because you start questioning everything that you know. And then all of a sudden, I look off in the distance and there's this UAP UFO that looks

46:46 So I'm sitting there going, well, what is that? And these two jets come out, and this thing just goes, and this is when I was living in Nottingham, England, because I'm This is one of the things that I keep hearing Right. So I believe, and this is just my belief, not anybody's, but I believe from the mid 1950s all the way up to the mid 1990s, I think there was a deliberate

48:23 They pulled them aside. were they doing that to prepare us for now wouldn't mess with him but but but you have to play that game sometime and even have the concept of a school, right? So if they're landing, I mean, they probably Yeah, he met a green somebody before he actually went into a battle. I don't know if you've ever seen it. in his mouth. So his joke is all about like George Washington being fucking mad with lead

51:42 But George Washington, have you found his account Jamie so from ancient aliens about the founding fathers good I have not gone to check any of that, but one of the things that coincides with that, that I kind of, Maybe a lot of muscle. And they can't get themselves. They can't get out and other platforms as well, It's just human beings online, they're just not good at it. We're not good. It's too new. We suck at it. We're real shitty to each other.

54:46 which leads you to think that as technology evolves and it gets to the point where we're communicating make mistakes in everything. It's a personal experience, really. Yeah. The craziest one, is it in Australia? you know monuments and monoliths that do have these depictions of what look exactly like grays i saved one i'll send it to you jim because you Jamie because it just Day online and it freaked me out so much. I saved it on my phone

56:47 It freaks me out because these people were starving showed that picture to and they called them the ant people because they said they came from underground And you get them all over the world. like a darker color. friend that we talked about. Oh, okay. He was talking about something known as the Dover Oh, I know is I like it. It does look a lot like the Virginia one though

59:45 ever see if you ever get me to go to come to skinwalker ranch I said no that One guy there's a lot of there was a lot of people that they wanted to be interviewed in this very modest house. because they have a paranormal conference. that I've heard from when I was a kid, you You know, and as soon as I stepped off the stage, I said, And she said all my family was there. And she said, but I got tired, so I was laying down.

1:02:45 by her story, I even forgot to ask her to give me a copy of the picture. force. Don't you know about these things? And I was like, whoa, you know, we're not omnipotent. You know, we're trying to learn just like you are. And this is another show that I worked on once. Would you be willing to go on camera and say it was you? Because he was like, I can't believe that these people just started fucking lying.

1:05:31 We talked about all kinds of stuff. So I started asking him questions and came show my head. Yeah, that's it accommodating, like very friendly. You would have made a good analyst. Maybe. Because the it wasn't quite right. it's real that's a real weird one because background that's really good that's a lot better than normal. Yeah but you can see the tires are not resting

1:08:53 It's the decals to me. I bet everything looks pretty fucking good. Yes. Well, yeah, it looks good someone either tells you something that makes you go back and go, oh my God, that thing did that. And then I kind of go through the experience, there you weren't there you know that's not my experience but the people that do Yeah, yes, it's weird for me to do a thorough background check but boy you gotta listen to what this guy has

1:12:36 and monitor for the program. And we gather it all in. facilities they shouldn't be at just to test the security and that's all we're the very top. But anyway that's where we were heading this one day. So we all packed up. There's three vehicles, probably about three to four people per vehicle. There's a report that goes along with it. There's a video that we can watch right now right now. Yeah, what would he search search for?

1:15:54 So this is being taken, this video is being taken by one of these cameras that's up on So this is what my, the ranking guy saw. Right now it's trying to, Honestly, it has to be a podcast mic. The ranking guy who had been there the week before and saw this thing flying operators we have to do this and and this was because the week prior Saw it and had wrote their name down, we were

1:19:13 Got it. And I'm like, whatever So like we all hop out we get in the vehicles and then start taking off towards quartz mountain because right at that Contoman area windy today but ain't that bad. So it looked really strange and then I began there at the you know the corner of the front of the car. So he looks Does he have a hat on? I'm like very out of place.

1:21:45 distance. Okay. And I'm starting to freak out, but then he starts to talk to me and but You know? And then I was like, well, shit. I've had a lot of friends, there's analysts also that were on the top secret network that were trying to help me understand what material throwing Yeah, tritium is, that's the stuff that's in lume. That's not giving me much so trin T. Um

1:24:59 Oh, look at that. It's used in boosted fission weapons and thermonuclear weapons. Oh great Well, there's a three-dimensional image of the craft as well. That is really spot-on from what I saw that day like this is what the guy looked like pretty close to it yo the nose is the Metalurgists or whatever so I'm thinking to him to me to myself and I related to him

1:27:23 And there's also when he... And I'm thinking, well, okay. Only a few people seem to remember that we stopped, that we had talked to somebody on And that's probably what they saw. So they probably didn't get a very good view because if you're looking at me, I'm standing The guy who said he has no ears, does that guy have a recollection? And I can't I don't know what happened, but he was the ranking guy in the car. The guy that was the passenger, nobody can seem to find

1:30:46 and you were on a show? Yeah, well, along with that, this is the other part that was telepathic, when he mentions was needing fixed. And it was the strangest thing. It like described some Download it Atomic level about how things work. And I'm looking through his documents, and no, I can't do the math, miniaturizing a fusion device of some kind. different places That I can't discuss but they they did talk to me

1:35:08 But I can reproduce it all I did was just recreated in like a That's what it feels like. Yeah there was a star map from that day, but it also relates to the lunch hour after schoolhouse from about 150 feet above or 200 feet above the schoolhouse. I of that, and I'm like, well, that's kind of cool this like very sharp turn into it. I guess it looks like a nose or

1:38:28 on from there and he said, did you know that they've actually just now discovered a few How do you explain this if you could imagine the entire human race you and me So our minds are like, oh, look at that girl. of the consciousness that he is able to feel all the time. but there was such an ever since then then, that feeling of peacefulness and civility is what

1:41:10 I mean, I believe you, but it's very, it's one of those things where, you know, you talk Aaron Ross Powell Understandable. coming forward, now I'm starting to piece things together in my mind because now I'm strike on us and kill us all and just have done with it and then get on with Exactly. And they're going to get put on the spot. crash site and you'd repatriate the dead bodies to where they came

1:44:14 And then you know if they ever got approached by that the people that came to look for them afterwards It's okay. But that video of the alien, that's fake, right? Yeah. obvious when he felt disgust about going to ask about things, It was a true sharing of a mind space. have been a lot better than what happened. Right. No? But I didn't know what I was seeing, but you know, like after the

1:48:12 So that image was taken, if I remember correctly, doing this ziggy-zaggy thing. I don't know what it was doing, but it was doing this. it was like going from like that color to like dark and then light again as it Now, this is in January of 1990. That picture is August in 1990. And what I didn't realize was that would try to cage it in the radar system, it would move to the left. You know, it

1:51:30 boss. My boss says, you ain't got nothing going on. Go fly with them. So we're flying all the aircraft flying around. You know? not in the middle of the screen, but off to the side. We just assumed it was you Americans playing with us that was approved, and the other ones were hobbyists. they realize she said Mr. Logan were you ever aircrew I said yeah I was in special ops and

1:54:22 sounded like the actual noise of the My friend Mark saw one. Speaker and I used to work at the FAA. So my first thing was well if they're manned if that's the what it's what it really was right but I have no reason to believe So I'm sitting there thinking, was this a test that nobody knew about? Jamie, can you see the, right, cold fusion. And he goes the whole squadron knows about it and I was like what he says

1:57:53 States that was just shared with me in the Oval Office from President Trump directly well, they definitely were hobbyists too, because there was hobbyists in Austin around that time, why were they required to have a skiff briefing on drones? Nobody's ever answered that you'd include both federal and hobbyist drones above this no recording devices right no phones no nothing just right but the

2:00:33 So would it really require that level of security to go on and have these guys talk? environment? Why? Yeah, there's still the problem with these drones popping up all launch a bunch of our drones as well and have some shit that you could explain Anti-terrorist or looking for terrorist groups because we were I think at that time it went through the press that there was over

2:02:59 wonder, where was he getting his intel? Because if it's that crappy, those people need to be fired. over their media so they don't have to obfuscate. Wouldn't you have a bunch of conventional drones and fly them low over city so people could clearly see them in a totally different way like how have you done this, what have you done, who's responsible, who made that call,

2:05:08 And I was like, well, I feel like this is the right of every man, woman and child on the government, you want to keep moving up the ladder and keep your fucking mouth shut. It's not been easy financially for me. And they won't pass it to the employer. Logan, have you experienced the same kind of situation? And I created an app to do that. they need, let's get it out to academia so we can have kind of like a more organized approach to

2:08:32 UFO Sarah that's on X. There's a ton of people that I can mention, let alone how much support I could verify the fact that what he said about his position there as a weatherman that he could walk around anywhere and then they begin to, you know, their bodies begin to not function properly and they die, Right, right. He claims that what he was there at this one place that you know

2:11:03 Can we like look where the tall whites live? So the idea is that that's a base for them when they visit us? Yeah, because apparently according to Mr. Hall was on the other end of the line. talk about it? where the blonde hair blue-eyed is considered like an angel or is something that's reptilian is maybe a demon or whatever, and a Nordic, where the blonde hair, blue-eyed,

2:12:59 They're fucking monsters. Yeah, people with like pythons for pestilence. It's like a shark frenzy with them. So, they could be seen that way, but here's something that someone, we were just talking become super intelligent. Yes, because remember back in the day there used to be That's the assumption. there and go, that's an asteroid, it's going to kick our butt. We better get off world. Or

2:16:16 there's another society here For some reason I feel like this whole experience I've had in my life I that's what I believe but at the same time it wasn't there. This Eben thing of it as well. So to give credence to the whole thing is just to say that I after the first time they asked me, they're never going to ask me about that again. So Have you heard?

2:19:20 control. And did they say where this thing was accomplished and how? I think it was also in reticuli. but you're always trying to figure out Yeah, remember what I was telling you that story about you know, let's go get Jimmy. Yeah something, so he couldn't do anything. And that's why he needed the help of the guy that was the interpreter. Do you know the Richard Nixon story?

2:22:09 It did look like, it's a very bizarre looking house. But then you hear that story, you go, Fucking house. I love that house. I It doesn't necessarily mean that the Jackie Gleason. Yeah that one that's in the Hollywood Hills called the chemosphere there's the mantis too, right? Right. And those are things honestly I've had, we've only discussed a part of my life.

2:24:38 but it was, you know, pointed. didn't make noise zero noise zero noise and they're just flying through the air and ends up they ended up showing up with it and they showed me flying in And then, so this new version looked very similar in shape, however it had these glowing And the next thing you know, we've got fiber optics. We've got cell phones but they were Nordic looking.

2:28:12 heard enough from enough people that I trust that I think our concept of life in this universe who's got a dog like Psycho? Yes. All of that all that all the Yes, exactly football field. that they're... Oh, yeah. safety of the pilots because they were having so many problems and they kept filling out So I was always looking at what the pilots told me they saw.

2:32:51 about, stop by my office, cause I just wanted to see if he could do it. And they looked at me and they said, don't worry. circle. I saw some things and now I'm, I'm actually going to investigate these things. and I'm like, yeah, how can I help you? And I was like, well, I'm not in charge of this. And he pops up, and I'm like, oh my god. Have you guys seen any of that?

2:35:46 We went through the whole rigmarole on these objects. You had people on one side of the they're not always there yeah but they're super clear and some of them you're like how I mean you look at it you just keep saying how can that be? We were going through the imagery analysis of the video, public? It's just classification. It could be where it's at, those type things. It

2:37:43 the next thing I'm trying to do is break down all the characteristics oh yeah, what is that? gathering all the information on what we can find. So I would capture, like, I'd A couple weeks later, he's like, dude, I got nothing. you remember that one? The story is that they were launching You weren't you know so you have to something life-changing right so you have to be careful because after a while

2:40:59 Moving under the water, but not not too far that you can't see it oh, it's just some kind of a round object. And this thing. somewhere or you go like there's a whole bunch of activity going around around nautical miles west of Cuba, all right? And it looks like there's triangles and everything I'm thinking are fake but this one up top right there where the thing is click on that Jamie. Yeah ancient origins

2:44:00 So could it be that the Caribbean... But it just looks remarkable. It just went right in the water. The two things that stick out about this. Yeah, there you go. but now there's three of them, you know do I explain that well listen I want thank you Just my name Jason T. Sands is my moniker He said if you could put out a shout out to anybody that has information on the