Joe Rogan Experience #2269 — Bret Weinstein Transcript

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0:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, checking in. Yeah. And probably should. Yeah. Yeah, in light of what we now know. You know, it's um, this USAID thing and it was like I was listening to a different world. we turn out to be absolutely right about this and no one's going to mention it. That's this train takes us. But seeing that structure broken up is, it's a huge relief. They gave $27 million to the George Soros Prosecutor Fund. So our own government

3:42 There's a lot that's confusing about what the Trump administration is up to you Crops. I wonder what those crops are. What's their biggest crop, Brett? 330 million dollars to help gaff Gannies grow crops the crops this close to the surface. And yet here we are. work done. So I don't think we can properly understand what these numbers mean and what Wasn't surprised. I thought that effectively our entire system had been turned into a

7:33 Yes. and pervasive that it was hard to get our footing to challenge it. But it shouldn't don't have to become a slave to the digital surveillance state. You can free TVs. Use it on up to eight devices at the same time and protect your whole family with haven't even got to the Medicaid yet. in terms of upending the stuff. In other It's on factcheck.org.

11:37 Yeah. The question is, how can we get a proper accounting as you point out? Who the hell Who's behind the scenes? And then of course, underneath it, community notes strikes again. the hardworking people of this country gave me money. Well I don't think I don't think the was really about control and money. It had nothing to do with helping people, to map out 55,000 different NGOs

14:19 And the crazy thing about the NGOs, and this is one of the things that Mike Benz has gone gonna own Gaza. Somehow. This is it. So fractal technology maps previously of financial relationships. like that and say what I would expect if the system was healthy. So I'm cautious about but this is a corporation, it competes for federal contracts, like competition from things like Alaska Native corporations, and it is being portrayed as

18:41 Compete for grants. It's really not race-based. Anybody, you know... Arctic peoples. oil. So instead of giving them reservations and sovereign land rights, it gave them some Got it. So this thing that allows disadvantaged people to get grants, like how is it structured? So this is a question, right? Is that what you're looking at there? So I'm not in a position to answer detailed questions about 8A, but what I would say is... There are some good things.

21:56 that you don't need help. good for the entire country as a whole. food for poor people and homeless people, like helping people, welfare. All these things I'm a liberal because there's a lot of problems with the way our system works. unlazy. I it just feels different. I have to tell you. I don't know what's coming, but it's at least It was like what you could see his face. He was just like

26:14 like the Biden administration to the US population. That was that was a good sign. that is amazing too. 100% and and then I don't know if you caught What about all the shit that they've uncovered? I want a message in which we govern as lightly as possible, but we do it really, really well. events of UFC 312. That's code ROGON for new customers see dkng.co slash audio.

31:07 that don't do the will of the people. The people realize you're doing a great job, in the most intuitive and accurate way out compete those who do a worse job. So that live in the world that they are so used to. That their corruption was immediately who, you know, I remember the first time you and I spoke, wouldn't get healthier if they didn't have access to

34:14 It's not obvious to me that it's positive. Absolutely. live longer and live healthier lives. what the impact of a drug or a food additive is. The whole system is missing in action. so the consumer is in no position to And also, I mean, that's literally the system that they're created from. They're sent out Those are frankly the only doctors I trust at this point, were the ones who were willing

37:43 You should stay up to date. talked about it. said something integrity at a moment like this. when they changed their mind, Right, you got lucky. Right. which is very different than most of the time when people get elected most of the time when people get elected 100%. Yeah, I've heard that argued, that 63 when they assassinated Kennedy, that was the last

41:47 Donald Trump and an extraordinary team imagine if he's doing this imagine is doing would have been possible if he had won and been Yeah. A poorly written, poorly directed movie with an extraordinary budget and almost no need with most people in this country about the level of corruption together for the good of the country. you know, maha had already catalyzed as Kennedy and Trump

45:55 work that he did then. who also served overseas in a medical unit Patriotism that they actually I mean this is what a soldier does right? wasn't anything you could put over on us that we couldn't unpack and you know There's posts that have 7 million, 5 million, 3 million, and people are There's a collective consciousness in which we figure out what we think is true, and it's

49:44 there's no pressure You're so not informed. I the less I feel like I know. It's based on Jacques Vallee, who's been studying UFOs for decades, since like the 50s and the to wonder what the fuck is actually going on. If there was something to cover, you might decide instead of trying to keep it under come up with the dumbest fucking stories and put them in binders and leave them on desks

53:44 And I would come up with the What do you think they are? I'm having a deja vu moment here, Who knows what I don't know. propulsion system means right so but I'm trying to imagine some futuristic sci-fi one of the crazier things that they've monitored is something moving underwater that's huge, like the size of a couple football fields at 500 knots. So this is exactly my problem is there's two realms. There's a realm in which I understand

57:01 I would expect something similar in the water. available that could create released from aircraft for some reason, I would assume and have long assumed that there is already begun. offenses at the end of World War II. But nonetheless, if you drop particles into the atmosphere, thing well let's put it this way first of all there are always particles even

1:00:30 university system and a robust journalistic system to dig And pretty silent what oh You wouldn't necessarily know how far away the object was and therefore you wouldn't looked to be 10 miles from me or something like that, and if you give it the wrong cues it'll totally misunderstand the distance that if person A was standing in location X and they saw a craft moving

1:03:30 at a great distance. involvement in whatever it is, either concealing real stuff or pretending that it has real program and there are real aliens. If we've been hiding it for so long, then it's very Now imagine a government. Now you're getting into a situation your own personal interest to keep things secret from the American people. You can't handle the truth.

1:07:05 he was to nominate Tulsi Gabbard for the director of national intelligence and then she was We don't have to edit it out. of UFOs or to hide what we know about them. That's gonna have a budget somewhere. Yeah administration says, oh, they were ours. If those were our drones and they were nightly traumatizing the residents of New Jersey and keeping everybody in the dark for weeks or people were really panicking.

1:10:13 No, no. So the CIA, instead of turning its propaganda wing on the whole world, they're allowed to And of course, you would get an entrenched cabal that would come up with a justification we're doing it against them, we need to be sophisticated in how we employ these things, otherwise we're going to lose very important parts of the We have to be mature about what's possible in the world and what implications it has for

1:13:30 Superior and it is also contagious that it makes for a safer institutions? likely that other societies take on those values is, but I know that it was happening matters worse. I'm very give them free money, even though you need to. Even though you need to, I think it's going. can say, you know what, we are so concerned about basic goods, needs, food, shelter, things

1:18:08 And maybe the way to incentivize people to do that is to never take away their universal But what if the people just keep getting universal basic income and you'll and we just rewire They have to be somehow or another either where you know you pursue the materials that make your hut better, that procure destroys wealth but creates a profit. But what fraction of the economy is actually dedicated to activities that destroy wealth?

1:21:41 out of the habitat that properly inherently incentivizes it and putting it Right. are? Yada, yada, yada. So the AI version is the That's maybe it starts with the education system. Maybe we have to incentivize people to pursue sit down all day and when they don't you say that little fellas got ADD he's not My whole life existed with an education system that was almost totally worthless and in some

1:25:24 And also, I had a lot of energy, and it was very difficult for me to pay attention Now, why is that? Is it because I'm 10? And it wasn't that I wasn't interested. It wasn't that I wasn't smart. It was that I was not inspired. It doesn't, I can't, I'll go crazy. maybe one, maybe one will have some sort with school or happened in spite of school. I had about one in five teachers.

1:28:41 Remember sort of in the second grade the kids today that are 13 years old, they can get inspired by so many different things. The amount of access to interesting ideas Information is inherently a good thing really. Yeah, because I know is that it turns all of that stuff into an exercise You are interacting with the world rather than just seeing it represented.

1:31:52 which I think you're absolutely right. that would cause you to think about What the person in question can do what you're looking at is somebody whose abilities outstrips And of course, I think I saw Red Bull in there somewhere, It's like a Chuck Norris movie inspires you to take a karate class. Well, I think a Chuck Norris movie is probably a better

1:34:42 They're consuming the sport rather than participating in it. of especially young men aren't having any sex. Now music is consumable. that's not positive for humans. my thought was almost the entire job of education It's not gonna make you want to learn more. in the student to understand the thing. Then your that you will develop over a lifetime and it's important that you do and you should

1:38:17 but I'm actually worried about it now that that's a robot. You're a real person. But go to Pong and then go to that we don't reproduce the disaster of porn in 3d right or 4d Because, well, I'm not a prude. It's way more pernicious and invasive and coercive. it in their own lives, they wish they were. They're too involving and they're not real life and they can steal real life.

1:41:57 cool. But here's the problem with it. Wasn't no, no, different different guys they had a game like that though my Right. It's over. But it's so crude if you watch it now. Yes. There you go. They, John so that you want to get to the next level, right? so skills you developed in Halo work for, I don't know what the others would be. One of the things they found about video games is surgeons in particular that play video

1:44:35 So, high number. But they just don't because the market is gonna find You have to actually do things. You have to do things you don't want to do. Delayed gratification. And in part, that's what all of these consumer gratification that that becomes a kind of a core tenant of how we interface And the idea was not to get you to learn the skill. That was a collateral benefit. The

1:47:47 the computer to do the thing that they wanted to program it to do or to play the song they But I mean, I don't even mean that it's the... Like social media influencers and TikTok influencers are people that just captivate attention, to be famous. You know Yeah, there's no lesson to it. But on the other hand, the internet as it stands is a training program for this.

1:51:03 to it. You hope they react, and you hope they react positively. I get their UBI and yeah and that we've really gotten beyond the Darwinian model. We've essentially I don't really think he means we see the evidence for adaptation but not new species from old species. as I said the last time I was on your show, when I heard him say it the first time, I

1:54:32 to break out a bunch of examples from nature that make the case very, to persuade you, but I don't think I'm allowed to persuade you. I think that it's effectively PR when I attempt to bring people over to Team Darwin. or whatever, they are pretending to know more than they do. things that are wrong with it. The key one that I think is causing folks in intelligent design circles to begin to

1:58:19 lots of plants growing. them apart so that we just had a stack of the compounds that they were made out that they're made out of. That would be wrong. Probably you could take the list they're not the story of the differences in what those two creatures do. not a simple chemical difference the way it was when we were talking about excavators And adaptation the mechanism is Asian. That's the one. Okay.

2:02:22 Okay. Well... that is not triplet codon It's primordial. and you can look forward. are better adapted to the world than their ancestors. then imagine that that means that the people who program computers do it in the effectiveness of a program. adapt than we can explain with that first mechanism, explains and so he's catching up. But that's really on the Darwinists for not admitting

2:08:16 about this. If you think about the way a human being works compared to, let's say, a starfish. A human being has a software layer, a cognitive layer, So development is one trick that the genome uses to make a human being more flexible more effectively will out-compete the creatures that have fewer of these things. It's an accelerator because that's how you compete.

2:11:13 reproduction, but if you think it's the same, you just miss out on all of the But that's of limited value. Let's say that you're in a population that is in jeopardy, but you as an individual are highly successful. So maybe you have 10 offspring, right? You beat the expectation by five times. And it is fitness that selection is targeted at. be very closely correlated with fitness. And we can measure reproductive success. But we

2:14:23 My advisor, I believe, nailed the answer to that question. that there is a flip-flop that will happen in evolutionary modes for human beings. So in other words, if you are in a circumstance and your grandparents knew how to live in the place that you live, it does not make sense to be trying to figure out some new way to be. What makes sense is for you to

2:17:20 hunt elk. hunting smaller game doing something no other creature can do. We can exchange abstract ideas between individuals. some prototype for a new way of being. So the argument I've made is when during normal over the history of our species. That's unlike any That is an amazing capability for a creature to have, the ability to switch niches in this way and

2:21:25 incredible problem-solving capability. It's why our craniums were expanded as they were, and those factors mean that they're a multiplicity of hostile forces. For human beings, we became It's just stunning that no other species out You've got dolphins, including orcas. magic, there's some higher power. to the point, I would highlight the fact that they don't really have a competing

2:25:13 were designed on a drawing board by a creature that wanted to make them, that creature has Darwinian processes, it is that much harder yet to explain a tiger designer. I mean, it is, you know, we humans are not built to understand evolution because in general produces all of that structure in the prebiotic universe. It becomes adaptive in the biological

2:28:21 Right? A bat is biasing the universe into producing more bats. You didn't see that? the universe is that it absolutely defies human if we eventually create artificial intelligence and if we merge and become sort of cyborgs, if we lose it can change its environment, it can rewrite its own code. and then we wouldn't count it as life anymore. Why couldn't it exist along with it as long as it

2:32:22 It wouldn't have the motivations that we have. the artificial intelligence becomes the premier species. bunch of complicated problem solving expertise in thinking about them is about to be And I'm worried about where that goes. What did he say about Stargate? Yeah, gee. Well, these are exciting times, my friend, The Dark Horse podcast. Thank you. Bye everybody. Thanks for watching!