Joe Rogan Experience #2272 — Mike Benz Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan experience. you went into depth about USAID. and you punch them right in the mouth. And when it all got opened, and you started to see the numbers began to warp and distort every institution in American life, from the media to now the social media companies, mean every institution is instrumentalized by this apparatus supposedly the witch, and the wardrobe, you know, the Chronicles of Narnia, where there's this whole cinematic universe.

3:43 When you first started working for the State Department, did you have any engines were going to outcompete humans. But when I was young, the sort of older people of 900 million tweets that you can ingest natural language processing sort of backbone of this was all being having spent so many years watching this all develop. And then the NGOs and then that map of 50,000 NGOs that was essentially just democratic

7:46 to manage payments? Squarespace payments makes it simple with options like Apple sensitive process but you know obviously it's it's been a bit surreal seeing the But I used to joke that usaspending.gov was the main difference during the height of and finding the joy in that, the self-discovery process, Necessary to reform, Just because it's the right move to do the open heart surgery

10:48 the American homeland and generally speaking the the American influence and another independent agency, that you could sue the agencies as an individual and all this money was being spent of the social contract that this thing was always set up That's what established the CIA. He called this organized political warfare. have all come out and said this publicly.

14:34 them. So the War Department had a relationship with these organized not going to like this the American people do not understand the intricacies And what he says is the American people are not necessarily going to done then under Obama media influence to so that the because everything moved after World War two from kinetic warfare and rather than military occupation.

17:44 to infiltrate and co-opt the universities, tricks and this is their phrase not mine to do this cloak and dagger to CIA can do this. USAID, when it came along 13 years later, could this but weak so there was a guy named basically the US and UK were the only games in town really in having robust base, or allow joint partnerships or exports of goods we're up against a much actually deeper darker problem with this USAID scandal and as people will see

20:52 So we need that protection They've been told to destroy any information What is USAID authorized to do under statute? damning examples of this. But if you just type in on Google the word USAID and then in a Boolean quotes, This is a group that half of its funding comes from USAID and the USAID, while the CIA has the ability to hack, you know, any target around the world that's authorized

23:59 I'm simply noting that for investigative purposes department and USAID and DOD's opponents in the region. So for through Investigative Reporting Program. Okay. What you'll see here is you'll see the life capacity. Now this is the phrase everybody has to know, capacity building is what This is this is USAID the US government bragging about the achievements of what they achieved

27:02 by a group of German journalists said it was a 20,000% return on investment because all these dollars were Now we don't know if these policy changes are good or bad. from the inside. proudly so that so this is state sponsored media hit pieces so that right now with the New York District Attorney's offices which is a whole to be submitted to and reviewed for

30:48 that, that hit piecework. And then they did the same thing with Paul But instead of focusing on the negative all the time, why don't we focus on the positive? lot lately but you still really want to make things work. Therapy can serve as The lawfare against Giuliani is interesting. process in the Joe Biden quid pro quo side of but I have to say this as well.

34:00 fired by the Ukrainian government because he explicitly conditioned the firing You know what that billion dollars while it's being filmed, not just publicly, I'm just about to text Jamie another thing related to this Because it's a State Department function, That way I don't need to travel all the way to New York there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee.

36:36 I said, call him. made some genuine substantial changes institutionally It's just wild that someone would be so USAID announces a billion dollar loan guarantee. it's a bit, but these are the carrots and sticks. You know talk about how do you how do you prove you're a good boy? used a very specific phrase there your mid words. I know but this is 1.5 series that I do on X. And so, but that's just- They caught you mid-words. I know, I know, but this is $1.5 million.

40:31 They work with Alvin Bragg and Letitia James and all these other ones. that it's an intermediary saying it, So Victor Shokin was investigating Burisma. that there was misuse of funding. This is in 2014. Yovanovich and Piot. They note that Hunter Biden and Devin Archer are on the board. earth. Okay, so they're talking about doing co-branding with USAID and

43:58 that in an official email. n.g.o.'s has reported publicly this week that ninety percent of Ukrainian media And so they have the capacity to ensure Gazprom and Russia. So they blend this, it advances US national interests but hey you know, pioneering approach factually incorrect, and you could research it, it's not hard to find out, and you see This is from the US State Department, which is in control of managing all of the media

47:00 it's an energy corporation yes yes Wow. Right. need to understand the full extent of its influence which just reading some of the statistics in that extent of this but what we do is we create these pretty little predicates, they are said to be independent from foreign governments who influence. So basically they're independent from the Chinese the banner of us aids independent media and media sustainability branches we fund half a billion dollars a year

50:34 went over that well this is what training journalists looks like is they you know making uh... you a million dollars a year there. censor disinformation. So this is a 28 second clip. Like what they did to X. Yeah, that the good the good news and information that if you just type in the word SEPPS CEPPS and advertiser on my X timeline just in, just on, just on COVID censorship. So Rooted in Trust is a internews program,

54:00 Every single step of the way. Yes, yes. You sponsored your own uh... through through a series of training opportunities events peer-to-peer this document all post on my ex feed and there's there's millions around this i you've got to keep that we're all jumping you know animal to they sponsored the entire white blood cell apparatus to swarm any transfer of wealth in the history of the United States by far from the working

57:55 But like is there a ceiling on that? me how the hot distinction you know the eight action plan. for example with the Northwoods memo with you know pretext to war with Cuba letting our national security state believe the new york times reporting you know a lot of people have the same thoughts about issues around around 9-eleven in any number of crisis events and I

1:00:58 Okay, back to what you were just about to talk about. in order to maintain the standard of living and prosperity that we have. You know I give the example all the time no blob no Or renewable battery or anything? of these things you know many categories of things. like Daily Wire and the Federalist suing the State Department for because US news White House executive branch agencies like USAID and state. Okay if you go to

1:04:29 the National Down for Democracy. that because we have a First Amendment Europe doesn't other Brazil doesn't but And I can go back even further to that in 2017 thus cutting the financial support in the ad tech space online. So the efforts being made to inform advertisers of the risk, such as the threat run network of hundreds of n g o's around the world that all jointly

1:07:24 Just like this is what happened to Breitbart,bart for example and they got caught up in this web a return on investment for putting ads you know on on new sites or social media a few ample examples of advertiser outreach are included in an x three what can technology companies to see this is u s eight what could national governments do again this is

1:09:40 It's by Globsec. But yeah, just down a little bit. This is 23 US-funded organizations million people to the fourth saw words what happened in the 2020 election, hey you know what's happening with our Ukraine aid? Well this is directly from, This started in December, twenty one really got the White House itself engagement with international partners that this this is

1:14:20 connected to the blob whether directly or indirectly they're either a part of But what they're saying is the US government can't pry that out of Facebook's hands. We have a First Amendment you know University because it was crowbarred out of your investigation or the nsa when they're doing a national security one It's so amazing how thorough it is.

1:16:39 So when you see it, when you actually see it laid out and the mechanism in which it But USAID has a couple of cute tricks okay actually you're a part of this you know USAID sponsored network or the foreign you know the foreign affairs by creating an internal what looks to be an So after the big scandals against the Democrats and liberals and anti-war groups in the 60s

1:19:21 a rogue portfolio, a rogue network so it's not technically covert action so it doesn't require executive branch approval Now, we were running a number of rogue USAID operations Zunzano, if you just scroll for a second we'll start with this right, so it was an dollars in, you know, and we sponsored these activist groups and these civil But the problem was at the time,

1:22:16 Same user interface, same like and retweet button. it began running, so this is 2010, Right? from the white house national security council after they were given 500,000 stolen Cuban cell phones that are available on The data would then be used for micro-targeting efforts you'll know about natural disasters in the area meanwhile explicitly said the fastest place to get this it's humanitarian work for you know that's

1:25:55 highly recommend, there's a lot more there. Later, when the network reached a critical mass, perhaps hundreds of thousands, operators Discrete or or discrete action and you'll see how USAID are revealed so no yeah just discrete yeah yeah like let's see, if you scroll down, that third one might do, but if you Musk held an ex space directly with senator Joni Ernst who has been on this

1:28:38 all this stuff okay is that the only okay maybe it's a different article but And what the Senate staffers overseeing USAID said you give it to USAID, this is why these drug operations And it's because the Inspector General Run it just like an Olly North, Iran-Contra style, USAID cannot directly provide funding to terrorist groups, but their contractors are not required

1:31:21 You know, they fund all the terrorist groups in Pakistan. You know a warrior on the road to peace I remember the puff pieces about Osama bin Laden before before in the movie the Mujahideen the Mujahideen and uh... you type in your moja hadine to pump up to capacity build Notice how he said he wanted to arm thea deen without revealing america's role

1:33:48 that their struggle will succeed back again because your cause is right and God is on your side. and to the paramilitaries folks in ukraine and to the you know to is a bigger budget in the c i a u s eight does and US aid steps in to build, operational arm nate statecraft became Al Qaeda and ISIS. What asset does Afghanistan have to play with in order

1:37:19 Everyone can look this up or if you want to plug in CIA, BCCI and look at all the mainstream stated Cold War enemy the same thing's happening today though if you go on my ex feed right now by doing, you know, what was said to be, you know, irrigation and, you know, agricultural which is funded 100% by the US government, house uh... house house and senate you know uh... for for affairs for foreign

1:40:15 Afghans and the world. The ban is not a counter narcotics victory and will have yeah, listen, 95% of the world's heroin flows from here. Don't look away. And then, you know, and then I think I have the next screen shot is just showing that we were overthrowing Slobodan Milosevic. at USAID and his farewell gift from the agency was a Woodrow Wilson's ghost.

1:43:34 You know, Wilson's a bad guy, okay, okay. that the CIA was busted in. The National Security State argues this wouldn't have happened unless the CIA had its old powers But so they couldn't get a legislative bill to do this. This is why you have Liz Cheney at USAID. the the reason republicans loved u s a john bolton types list any types love it we saw that just you know a few years ago as we just went over with Joe Biden

1:46:35 that pads profits and revenue for US companies Reaganite, you know trickle-down economics So you do need to restructure. If you're going to keep using this in order to qualify yet you have to have a certain minimal threshold of reinvestment in America years to unravel this stuff? that the foreign policy establishment has had to this is in every way symbolicallyically, operationally, financially,

1:50:13 people who got involved with the MAGA movement did it because they care about They don't think about who's on the US They have to now. One of the problems when I started out this journey in 2016 is that there was no you know you'd have to explain for example that the Pentagon does an awful federal agency in all of this. They have nine hundred billion dollar

1:53:27 You have, when America was born in 1789 What people, even now they're seeing these USAID scandals with funding to the Democrats, Am I talking too much, by the way? But the fact that JFK created US aid It was a charity. No insurgency counterinsurgency. So it's and the problem was is JFK was was bogged What he believed was the thing that needs to be done is actually something of the civil layer.

1:57:57 the Russian forces in Crimea but what is actually the most important strategic government of Romania decided by the hearts and minds of the voters of the and rolled into, you know, Kennedy sample scenario where the US ambassador tries to get this West African country It's available online. and the business owners of the foreign government yeah go ahead click those and I can show you the source documents and everything

2:02:28 actually doing this is why for example you had the fight over ISIS and but we the ambassador more leverage at the negotiating table. of internews, USAID, you know, the social media campaign and here we go, USAID. want to you take to the streets they don't need to worry about losing their effective. Now you and this is where I don't know if you want you know take a

2:05:31 And that I see is one of the main ways that the blob may be able to regain leverage here in the United States in the years ahead. democrat party because of all the bad blood between the Biden camp and the for the MAGA hat to put on. to announce that Donald Trump had won the election Right, right. that is not affected by the USAID Truman show. You want to talk about the music

2:08:27 but this is how the sausage is made and you're gonna see a million examples of demographic segmentation of all the demographics in the country who's racial distribution the religious distribution the gender distribution the But in the Cuba case, they were, around policing issues and around representation issues. And they even noted in the document their pain points on

2:11:46 radio stations in miami and Western Hemisphere Assistant Secretary folks, I'm a big fan on the music side. him saying tweets like witch hunt or Brexit slogans for you know cheaper health care international incident when I say this, but you know her messaging around the the post Yugoslavia and they want that Serbian government, military DOD and at CIA called Transitional Justice which is weaponizing

2:15:36 for their budget. the better they're not necessarily can be able to get that the next time around And I'm just gonna show you something And, you know, and this may be too far afield that exact territory in eastern Ukraine that those sit on. The only way to do that is through Yeah, well that's interesting because that has to do also with the economics of it

2:19:04 and putting in a pipeline straight to the customer. trickle down but I'll leave that aside but the point is is Poland basically is of the US or the UK or NATO. Because this gets back to OCCRP Oh, my God. No, wait, we've just, we've just started on that. Okay. Here's an easy one. humanitarian abuses or whatnot. What I'm saying is, is it's music as an instrument of statecraft.

2:22:13 These people become less popular because the people who love Dua Lipa have to sort of hate those racist america discriminates against african americans uh... there's there's we did jazz diplomacy and pull us up on screen as i talk about this jamie just you know African-American musicians who were you know other you know African American musicians who

2:24:21 all this if you want to put on screen. There was a big classical music, Shostakovich and other Russian, Soviet classical composers American classical musicians to travel abroad their sponsored uh... or or basically you know dominate you know we know what at all over the iron curtain color revolution against Slobodan Milosevic in the 1990s working with a

2:26:54 Yeah, and we're going to have a lot more on that when we get to the rap program because I felt like I was. that I'm laying out now, And then they get radio distribution, a lot of headlines. by closing the loops on things that were that I that I didn't and Riga, Latvia. One of them started their career was actually working at the time for Grafica which is

2:31:12 Policy planners who pitch ideas about well, you know these tactics work Atlantic Council as well as the US Department of Homeland Security to right now if let me know if you're having trouble finding it just trained says basically says something like, and this and how, and you know, what we need to decide, some over the drawbacks of this and how and you know what we need

2:33:40 her public health campaign stuff we paid It's the military. 2024 you'll see this but basically the Pentagon or if you scroll down maybe it might be right there have twenty two in fact you can look this up if you want the state for a you know these documents but there's operation. it literally writing is actually sometimes a lot more effective authoritarian governments and the people got to rise up and you know,

2:38:18 pitched to the State Department in the during the Afghanistan war funds to the war in Afghanistan if it was about stopping repression against women or if it was about giving women more rights in the to add sanctions and other protected speech measures. What do you know about that? some of the other things that I you know I'd like to be able to just hit before

2:40:59 an appropriate international incident Their own founders say that they were created, left and right and that that's why they have two political cores IRI and NDI but when you see this yet the month he takes office is december twenty three it's democracy because the people voted for it and the one fair and square It has to arrest the people from the government we just transitioned from.

2:44:28 is a direct order ukraine berets malone typing this is a foreign uh... you know uh... arrest you know does not represent it's like retweets are not endorsements international coalition that trumpets uh... mail-in bet mail-in voting and also the twenty twenty visa scandal was busted by zone inspector general issue But wait, wait, I'm not done. There's there's one more there's can you on on that?

2:48:57 more sense now election just literally, we're just gonna go maybe five, six pages so yeah let's just go through a list of countries that we are whether we are serbia uh... basically bribe and co-opt the very same criminal justice system that that didn't really didn't like a e integration you know you'd like literally every single one of these is a government

2:51:56 Albania, we're doing it in Albania. okay here's here's for u krain because you can run the political head was all time They may have to tap into their allies in China or their you know their allies and other central american or uh... or south pressurizing the united nations Cuba rap journal of democracy article that I believe was co-authored by Ned's founder Carl Gershman

2:55:12 networks. Like for example we talked about the Mujahideen, narco network. They who are primarily funded by the drug networks that they sit on in the Golden Triangle. into these networks in Southeast Asia, group of hillside guerrillas. So what did USAID do in 1967? This is the Narco terrorist network to purchase two airplanes from two CI proprietary

2:58:20 it was retailed to poor unsuspecting souls all over Southeast Asia. Networks all over the world and I have serious concerns about Because you are going to find USAID NGOs, if Bukele had not done the radical reforms that he had had they brought in the executive director of PolitiFact, flew him all the way out to Explain that to the American people that is the State Department's policy

3:02:12 ISIS is on our side in Syria. that put a 10 million dollar bounty on the head of Mohammed Al Jalani, the commander of those have to do with hip-hop well, you have these narco networks. we're told by our promoters or our managers to you know you know lean into for example with Iran-Contra and the Reagan years. So he makes a into these Compton gangs into these you know

3:06:18 making explicit grants to Bangladeshi rap groups So your argument is essentially that this game plan that helps U.S. statecraft. You needed a market to sell it. take away from you know so much of the important factual stuff where I have the you know, during the Cold War. And we pump up every cultural vector we can. whatnot in Ukraine. The same sort of extremist lyrics you saw in the bangladeshi rap songs or the

3:10:14 you know, C.I.'s role in rock and whatnot, there's great Guardian articles about all to see who hates the government. We're running out of time, so let's get to Brazil. You know, media is rigged, okay. this will be the last thing, I'm just trying to stop speaking your phone number too. Does that. This is the head of the TSE, the explicitly set its its job but to get foreign countries and foreign courts

3:13:47 teaming up directly with Brazil's TSE court. 500 million dollars from USAID every single year in Brazil doing you know entered into compliance by by taking certain actions. So they have to and you're gonna find a lot more of that down and threatened him Bill Burns did the head of the Pentagon went down and provide. I'm not even weighing into the voting machine issue except to say that

3:17:11 No foreign facing government agent, no cog in the wheel of this dirty tricks apparatus but I don't, you don't see me happy absence. All the discussion, the negative anti-Trump discussion about USAID shutting down is all know AIDS and HIV. In 2014 USAID was busted running a covert operation where you do this out of us aid is to do people and this puts this puts our

3:20:01 vote against Maduro. oversight committee Jesus. I don't think a lot of people You know, some of the topics that we talked about, with its control over media, its control over prosecutors, Thank you.