Joe Rogan Experience #2278 — Chase Hughes Transcript

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0:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! So, what did you do to fix it? So I... Yeah. found this guy is a functional medicine guy and he got me on methylene blue to start off. Who's that guy? Are they, make blue jeans out of that huh? What would it taste like? Yeah? So he says, well, it's sucking into neurons. Does it cause side effects if you're taking any drug that you shouldn't take with an MAOI?

3:34 So you have an oxygen molecule that should have two hydrogens on it. Not a bunch. What's 75 kilograms? And you put it in water, is that what you do? No, I have these little trokes. Yeah. That's what it was about. light than they otherwise would without methylene. And during a seizure, you can lose up to about a million neurons a second. Jesus. I don't know.

7:27 You can get it, I get mine from this company called MitoZen. You have a genetic predisposition. And then I did 20 years in the military. and he says you can get it from jet skiing, It's smashing around inside your skull. All right it's February and by now 80% and supplements with just one scoop. bottle of vitamin D3, K2, and five free AG1 travel packs with

10:25 set things out. How'd you get involved in all this kind of stuff? And the more I could kind of see somebody's insecurities and when somebody was stressed on the ground. people I trained was a car dealership just to see if I could do it. I said I'm in their best interest. Yeah, yeah. They got that vibe, you know, like, And I talked and I asked them, what are the methods that you use?

13:51 and I wanted to figure out what are the elements interrogation or cult recruiting or anything. I'm just learning where these little loopholes in the brain Let's do it. Oh, yeah. had was they could get you to deviate off of your baseline really quick. So in the, their goal was to get you to agree and I wanna ask the Uber driver to complain about his job,

16:30 They have the highest job satisfaction rating. to associate a mental script of friend mode. out of a person very quickly. goes into Manchurian candidate stuff. And if you want to talk about seer hand seer hand Because I said I'm sure you know people and you're even your head nodded. Right. And the moment you get to identity, because your identity is involved here.

18:58 But the moment your identity is involved, they can lead it further and further and further. So where this guy, is that a table, kind of like this, Okay. So obviously, over this page is equal to this line over here. So obviously Like the difference is so glaringly obvious. It's kind of amazing. How do they? 100% of people would say, I wouldn't do that.

21:34 who they are, and so a lot more suggestible. And technology has outpaced our brain's ability to adapt to it. stuff for a long time. But if I can get you to think that most of your tribal members It's a lot of bots. Like, wow. Someone like me that's like it's a gift Sounds like it was so perfect! not only does it not disparage people's opinions of you,

25:31 Echo chambers that people create, And letting them fully express it. and how you think about things and why you think about things instead of that So they're emotionally made and logically rationalized which people love. cults so they would try to get you to do something and deviate from your normal patterns. Yeah and ran it. And he was kind of like sort

28:34 Is it Oregon, right? So they they took over this town and they poisoned a bunch of people. It's like really crazy. It's a crazy documentary. And then they take you into the room. sex cults, they're like money cults or power cults or, you know, or ideological cults, it, it's very attractive. food doesn't end up as burnt down pellets without extreme processing.

30:59 Just go to thefarmersdog.com slash rogan. Tap the banner or visit this episode's page to learn more. will simply follow somebody that is easily followed. with this person just because they were followable. The cults have NDAs? And talk to people. Yeah. And it's the exact same way if you're programming That's what I started discovering over the years. And I've studied like how to access every loophole

33:41 kind of bring it back to the tribe at the end of the day. is a tremendous amount of focus. interrupted my brain's script of what I thought was gonna happen. Okay. You with thing. Okay. And that's how novelty starts to trigger our brain. It makes sense so far? I'm gonna approach you and say something hey, I'm gonna ask you three questions, The moment a pattern is broken, we have tremendous focus.

36:32 experiment. Essentially they told people that they had to keep shocking Yeah. So you're essentially told, And in real life, man, I had that in airplane mode. In real life, this guy is going. They keep delivering electric shocks to this guy that was screaming before and And after the experiment was conducted, And 250 volts is enough to kill you. telemarketing company right there's no script there's no hypnosis there's no

40:05 building you've never been in, with two people you've never met, in a room you've never been it. on and all that stuff and like you're, you got a seven foot pile of laundry back at home But they are getting a gut feeling that something's off. it was one of those things where we have this ancient brain Gratitude just not saying like I'm keeping this gratitude journal every day or anything

43:06 that's an authority figure. that's really great. And people just ignore the first part. of shit. Those are symptoms of being confident. It's not confidence. So our culture today So in order for someone to truly be confident, Yeah. there's going to be something off. But in your gut, you're like, something's off. Something wasn't right. So if you're gonna teach people how to to be confident, essentially you have to teach

46:33 people and that's your environment, how you handle all of these things, your environment, and all the different things that people do. to spot suggestible people. I think it's Los Angeles. also some debate as to whether or not he did it. Oh, I did a whole video on this on my Was that the reason they filmed there? I don't even remember the show, the episode.

49:41 yeah yeah yeah so and it's not about skill at something like if you're doing West. Charlie West. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. it. Joe. There's not a lot. It's a lot of anecdotal stuff. But he met with this guy regularly. did was ask him to kind of admit what you did and just And he met Sirhan at a range and expressed, Proof that a lot of what they were trying to do was effective

52:48 Mike. recently. Yeah. clockwork orange and they would hold their eyes open I mean, the Canadian government admitted it so much that they paid these people for damages. How long was she there for? Were making these videos like I realize now that America is a Korea. in history. And he was like the first guy that said, hey, what if we're not assholes?

56:46 And funny enough, you ever been to Disneyland? Oh, really? Fuck like as if Disney doesn't have enough problems with Walt Disney being there documentation that shows the effectiveness of certain techniques? Like like do we have any of their work? The Church Committee stuff. This guy's name... So these professors and these scientists were working with the CIA while they were developing

1:00:18 And that it was done to change the perception of the anti-war movement. Like the hippies were peace, love, and psychedelic music, and people were dropping out of society. him there was like a real problem because his career didn't take off and like he threatened That's not bad. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And he threw this sort of indoctrination and bringing them into the family and they're

1:03:15 Yeah. Everybody knows about the Manson family. It's all around the same time and art goes to zero. Yeah art goes art into the toilet starts disappearing Okay, like what's step one? How do you know when you can get a guy to be a Manchurian candidate? You're gonna develop these little crow's feet and you'll do it by the age of 19. that I can send you.

1:06:05 But what if I told you to make They do that, I might do that too. What? and all that stuff. And I told them, test this theory over the course of five years. And it was insane. And it was weird. So I'm a hypnotist, certified hypnotist. And I've learned it just because of my brain obsession. Yeah. to some of these techniques and he doesn't know how to,

1:09:30 always more open to fun. They're always better, you know, they live in front of their eyes a lot So this guy, George Esther Brooks, makes this formula to split the personality of an army a secret word and an anchor, like they'll squeeze his arm and say moonlight or something like that, and it'll turn this other personality won't come out because there's a secret word and an anchor, like

1:10:58 I mean, there's no physical modification. and let's say I wanted to split somebody, I could make up a piece of paper that's got 10 disorder. They're almost done. and they would all use colors. you'd see in a cartoon or something. beside you. Heart rate doesn't go up. And then another time, they give somebody, they Nothing. skills have to be high. But if I have high suggestibility in the target, high authority

1:15:12 is? The boxer? Oh, I didn't know that at all. And as I'm telling him, yeah, I'm like, I've never done this. The dissociation part, where I kind of separate from myself. up, what's the thing where they take a picture looking at each other, whatever And they moved to another Do you know that fight? and even light heavyweight. He did everything different.

1:19:27 You know, like it's done. and then even if you do, Roy would move so fast, He was like every fight was an execution. He was playing with his food. Yeah. He's a machine. Yeah he's a machine. He was truly he was so good man. And one of the So Custamato starts hypnotizing Mike Tyson It's only the task and you are and he's sort of just resting on his laurels

1:22:32 And that's early. I mean, you're still getting your formative identity on film, which nobody has access to. watching all the greats just hours and hours and hours and hours of studying films. Floyd Patterson, Jose Torres. I mean, out it was a legendary world champion trainer and then on top of that he's a hypnotist Everything was perfect. It was the perfect storm

1:26:01 or something over the Middle East. Like you've got to reestablish yourself back to a normal. When I first met him, well, I met him before this, but when he first did the podcast, he Like from the first episode he did to the second episode, I bet he won so many fights just psychologically. Uh huh, yeah, he had an aura. There's the psychological, and he's remotely nervous about you,

1:28:54 And the moment is overwhelming. And then you see Anderson Silva warming up. You're like, oh Jesus, what am I doing? Like you have to have a very special mind to be There's guys, like John Jones would famously like walk out You know, he'd move around with his coaches he just wanted to feel the and then visualizing success. and just the feel of everything.

1:31:35 Like he thinks he's the man too. and how to mitigate all this anxiety and stress that things are gonna be great, and the guy that's psyching himself out before a You're telling your brain what to search for and seek out. It's so true. And that's our particular formation inside wrong if you do not move your head off the center line. scared if you're getting hurt if you're getting battered you know and you're

1:34:32 there's fear before and not during. a lot of those scenarios. There's a circle on the ground that's like five feet wide and you can't step out of ammunition. Some will try to kill you. Some might run up to you really fast and ask for There's a few things. So like you can shoot them in the chest and they'll slow down twice in the base of the nose and they go down.

1:37:21 So it's like the Beretta I deployed with, but you take the barrel out It's on airplane mode. I had one of those once. I wore it for one day and it But if it hits that area then you go down. Yeah So you can't just shoot people because they have a weapon over there. Two other guys I've worked with just through Roy facial expressions. I'll bring it up.

1:40:10 There's a guy that was one of the greatest heavyweights in terms of like how to keep your your mind in check in the middle of chaos In the middle again, thrown through the air, You know, he might be having a cup of coffee You don't exist. A lot of it, yeah, a lot of it is anxiety, adrenaline dump. So I added in some, because a couple of those things are symptoms.

1:43:03 You might not be defensively responsible because you're really only thinking about offense, It'd be interesting. a psychological aspect of it Yeah. stuff. footage of him Jamie I was looking at Tigers I got lost into that I found the There's a lot of thinking and calculating and being in the zone and golf that totally people work. You know, it's interesting because what you're saying kind of applies to stand-up

1:46:27 They're taking me on a journey. Yeah, well, that's why jokes work when you know the person doesn't really believe that. just going with where it wants to go and And when the subjects come up, if you're not completely invested in what that subject is, thinking about that thing and you have to be invested in it. It has to be real and that would bring you almost all the way out to where your eyes are kind of opening again

1:48:37 And one of the only, one of the best guys I've seen an opening act that's high energy and then a middle act, the worst is like if a middle Well, not always I mean sometimes people just appreciate it because it's funny. So then he could just be himself. He didn't have to worry about, like, they were coming to see him. And I think you only need three.

1:51:32 Yeah, there's a lot of things going on. Like you're in a car accident. oh and the seizures came back wow Wow, how bad was it? But I thought like, yeah, So doctors are backing it up. So anybody that's got epilepsy, this is neuroprotective, Really? and then formed a relationship with single-celled organisms There's a whole lot. if you take too much of it?

1:55:01 But the dose I take is about one to two milligrams per kilogram per day. And then It's backed by 120 years of research. However, the exact rate can be dependent on factors Interesting. So the doctor that got me on this mitochondria, I've heard people talk about the side effects of melatonin and that taking exogenous melatonin to know who's correct because there's a bunch of, air quote, experts on both sides. There's...

1:58:02 So you had seized up. Didn't know she was my wife. Memento? And he had that Polaroid camera that he carried around. and this temporal epilepsy, I thought my dog was fake. Like we were, before a temporal lobe seizure happens, a seizure starts because everything starts looking like I've seen every Aaron Ross Powell Yeah, cancer as well. Jesus. I hope someone looks into it. Yeah, I talked to Brett Weinstein about it and he explained it to me. It's

2:02:15 stuff that was going on with the vaccines and all that. We'll be right back. first thing that we teach is this thing called the childhood triangle. But if you look at adult behavior, when you see these patterns of how adults deal with Does that make any sense? But those are the six that you can spot pretty easily and that you can So if I hear a person speak, you'll hear one of those six in almost every conversation.

2:05:24 I need you to tell me like, no, Chase, you're great. You're gonna be okay. You're gonna do a great Because now I'm not just a person or a friend. They're getting neuropeptides from all of this. Do they have a name? Is it just called Psy Ops branch called Psy Ops He was the guy who invented public brainwashing, large-scale brainwashing. Sun Tzu, the art of war.

2:08:14 Who is unnamed? Who did this? Right? Look at that. They're back to the Mongols. This is crazy. We can deceive. So these, if you know how to speak to a person and you can get them into an identity and you get absolute compliance from that. So if you can do that and then get somebody so many times that they doubt just everything, which leads them to never taking action.

2:11:42 So I've started to compromise identity in just a few minutes. So now I've got your dopamine levels up, but I've got you hooked in to begin with. In my head, I was going, please don't bring it up. COVID death is ghoulish, yes, but may be necessary. to get vaccinated. this is how they think about you So the first time I ever went on Dr. Phil, he was a great guy. He came to my wedding.

2:15:38 You have a need for love from strangers. That's some harsh truth. Focus, authority, tribe, and emotion. Nat Fiskor-Klein Maybe necessary to be ghoulish. There are these I made a YouTube video on my channel There are psychological operations in play. They're just saying basic stuff, It's not a fear of speaking, it's a fear of discussed in emails. That's what's really crazy.

2:19:01 He talked about Facebook doing it, about the FBI contacting them. It's crazy to believe, but my hope is that people have learned from this past four years I mean, this... Nat Sonderkirch, PhD, PhD, PhD, PhD, PhD, PhD What did I do to feel safe? time. Some of them, when you say psyops, a really, really good infomercial is a psyop. That guy was a great sportscaster.

2:21:31 And he's like on his balcony in Manhattan. You're scared of side effects from a fucking new medicine. It's wonderful because it's so kooky. We are the leaders of the free world. Have you found it? Yeah, this is it. Give me some the language we use. Anti-vax they're afraid they're protesting mandates in passports Somewhere. There's a payoff. Socially, he feels like he is on the side of the

2:24:45 Plenty of people agree with them. different things that people, neurological conditions that people are dealing with that are vaccine injured. of myocarditis. Look at the rises and all these autoimmune disorders and all these different Yes. Is that happening to him? Yes. That they want to come back with back pay. Yes. You know, and if he knows anybody that's been injured or died from it, now I bet he

2:26:06 pandemic. And we were doing them in Vegas. So there was a place called the Apex Center, I didn't know most people. the time I was supposed to be there I knew had it and got over it really quick. got COVID and then my family got it and when my family got it I work out a lot, but it was this narrative that if you are around it, you're definitely going to get it

2:28:40 And then a bunch of my friends got it, and it wasn't that bad. To be the subject of a Psy-op was fascinating. Like do your best, get vaccinated, I was like, let's see. who is very into nutrition, very into supplementation, This is crazy. Like, why is he okay? and I copied that video that they made. and then they would use like a dash and then an X. They would do something to try to skirt

2:32:29 They're gonna realize eventually if you keep calling this stuff horse paste 50-plus, 100 years. You could have just ignored me. Yeah, but instead they went all in and too many people were paying attention to it. then I can just make that a trickle down compliance effect. They can't even tell you they didn't even know what they were just like saying something because you were there

2:35:05 would have made a ton of money. A lot of people are scared. They would have taken it anyway. The media works for them because they support the media financially. daughter in the field and they're spinning around circles and now she's They've been doing this for a long time and they've got a playbook Nat. Like it's way more palatable. Oh, yeah. Oh my God. Just bring a photo of this if you can,

2:38:44 This is about women's rights. It has nothing to do with cigarettes. Keep a slender figure that one believe in yourself He's like the original John Dutton denim jacket. can advertise in magazines that have at least 85% adult readers. US cigarette giant starts advertising again in magazines millions of young readers Oh so I want to make sure is this something that I would use is this something legitimate because

2:41:48 this die and stuff like which I'm not educated on. where they show like may cause cancer, right and Are you gonna feel like shit afterwards? Yeah if you eat the whole bag. Are you gonna get sick? Well, if you eat them every day all day, you'll get sick Unfortunately, a lot of people don't a lot of people aren't very educated as far as food. Give your throat a vacation. Smoke a fresh cigarette. Cam unfiltered

2:44:51 That's basically the last one. Yeah, they're good. They're good. But if you know what you're doing you take care of yourself. It's not bad to have cake every now and then yeah a little bit of cake I'm immune to it. And I can spot all of the things, and I'm still going to lose. So I get to automatically, I don't have to hack your brain. English. Novelty generates focus. Then there's an authority because you're

2:48:26 16 hours with advanced algorithms and technology designed to manipulate you specifically, and in trying to manipulate narratives. JFK got killed for saying stuff like that. Like it's not left. It's not right. Let's bring this together Go at it. Let them figure out. They're the best at it anyway, and they're the most psychotic or maybe they're helping them.

2:50:44 go ahead and put your arms out on. None of those So it's compliance, compliance, compliance. and everything's gonna be just fine. and I'll frame it as like kind of stuff. Yeah. But that's, if you look at social media, the final step of hypnosis the amount of theta waves that are going on in your brain, It's going to go back up, and it's going to go downhill.

2:53:31 They're not gonna show you an ad after that. This is a fat book, dude. Well, thank you, man.