Joe Rogan Experience #2279 — Ky Dickens Transcript

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0:00 Joe Rogan podcast, check it out! There's no way that that would be a thing for so long, that people would talk about and others that have a non-speaking child have been, you know, so excited that this Speaking is a fine motor skill, whereas pointing to letters is a gross motor skill. And so I think that the subjects in this project who are non-speakers with autism have been

3:16 which I think we can pretty much validate at this point. telepathy is just the tip of the iceberg. And it's true, because I think whether or not its ability And yeah, so it didn't just start with telepathy or end with telepathy. I think this is all part of us and in the telepathy tapes in episode five in particular we get into animal that dogs know when their owners are coming home,

5:52 That's the problem. you're not a person to be taken seriously. And one of the things that we look at in the telepathy tapes in episode six, which we call you or ridicule you just for even daring to ask that question. Research about this type and we shouldn't throw those out. Those are pretty much true. That everything is the product of our thoughts first.

8:45 and said, we can't dismiss this. This is happening. There's a lot of anecdotal evidence here. the flat earthers in the future. sports betting partner of the NBA. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. In New York, call 877-8HOPENY or text listen to it three or four times then you have to I told him listen let's stop here Manufacture physical objects out of these ideas whether it's art and I think that's one of the reasons why we like art so much

12:36 going in and saving someone my other friend was taking care of, they're in housing Kansas City, comes up in that book too is you don't ask the creative, whatever it is, God, muse, ether, right, why we're here and what it all means. Diane Hennessy Powell, who was a Harvard, you know, a Johns Hopkins educated, you know, But I think that concept of big magic was a bit of that

14:53 felt like people that are often trying to just make money off of people in more affordable and accessible. That was my experience. Because I thought this could be the next project. it. 30 years, capturing it, videotaping this phenomenon going on, and scared to come out about it. like, okay, let's see what you know. And bing, bing, bing, she starts spelling, she knows

17:56 And so- And and I can only say what spellers have told me and there's been quite a few spellers who say, where we'd show an image to her. He seems to be tapping in the second, the images in her own mind. the Cambridge biologist who's in this project, he didn't believe in telepathy either. Whoa. blind, like how do you learn anything? So you would assume that there's something wrong with

21:16 and the world is just making it really difficult infrared is like a sixth sense, like a sixth sense that we don't have, right? deaf? it's like, you're Joe, and I'm high. No, I don't believe it either. know could the government utilize these individuals? You're not discussing the Exactly. Of course. Never I never had the barrier of whether or not they're in there

25:32 So that was pretty phenomenal. Code? in the house speaks Portuguese or people talking about you know this has been without the supports of a communication partner like, you know, that is, the goal is to type independently. lack of body control. understand Portuguese. people were in the room this day. And she started spelling in a language and they didn't

28:50 and not know what the pictures were representing to be like, okay, here's the feather. I mean, take a lot of time, it can take a whole work and effort to get that information out. So anything having the right people makes all the difference. you can get real time updates on their progress In our session. And then I know Dr. Powell kind of expanded on it,

31:51 when you haven't been exposed to it, so you get hit on the head. do. They haven't been taught it, they haven't been exposed to it. And that could be thoughts. It could be knowledge about the future. It could be knowledge about I'm in that part too. When the people that are just, is it possible? Is it possible? Usually, so there's different forms to a letter. Some individuals are typing into a spelling kind of app on an iPad

34:39 but people have said, Oh, but you need the support. So these can't be your words. Or sometimes you have to cue them, go for it. communication. Actually this is like the first thing you ask, we're going full This was great. So this was new. the individual knows where the body is in space, but you're not pushing their hand. And that's where spelling's at now,

37:30 like I think go for it, you know, hold the board and hold it there for their child. No. because they think that the way the words are constructed seems to be in some sort of Okay. University of Bristol subsequently removed a reference to As with most would-be Voynich interpreters, the logic of this proposal is circular and if you can get that in front of a nonverbal kid and he's like, oh, I know what that is. I mean, that'd be pretty wild. It'd be pretty wild.

41:39 who's humble about it right but also like well-read. Yeah. And he's like, I don't know what's going on. has this ability to do this? Wow. Yeah. And one of the earlier children that Dr. Powell was studying, this boy knew really a kind of I mean, this is the thing, right? Right. If people who come back from a near-death experience, need a body. And so I think the language thing is like, we've put words over this thing,

44:25 I mean, I know what it is, but yeah. harmin. but independently they all verified the exact same thing. and the non-speakers. which I always wonder, like, if you and that the non-visible world is real, Why? in their classrooms. And I think there is a deep fear of people I think this truth might be really uncomfortable for some, Why from the spelling world? That's what I don't understand.

48:55 It doesn't mean I don't have my own thoughts. I just talked to a parent the other day who the American Speech-Language Association, who accredits speech-language pathologists, I think, again, it's because of those supports, like because you might need a partner to spell, Well, most of these individuals aren't being touched. ability. So if you're proving psychic ability through spelling, this is obviously bullshit

51:51 language. Like, this is, people need to try to speak, you know. Sign language went through They planned it. They pre-planned the words. And it wasn't into multiple, you know, variations That's why I hadn't wanted to clarify. notions. kids go into, is a multi-billion dollar industry. And I think that they profit very much so You get to the root of it.

54:25 is that if you think of a human rights violation, right, because, oh, we can't afford or we don't believe That's where it gets gross. I mean, it can be depending on where you live, right? your idea of what children can and can't do, what they can and can't guy and stuff, my DP Michael, like would quickly, we were all kind of like, okay, this is happening,

57:18 And she was like, come on, and kind of put those in her bathroom upstairs behind one So that was something I started being like, okay, this is happening enough and enough Are there any other data points that would indicate that someone would be more likely it because didn't think his parents would respond well, right? Oh. And another teacher was telling me, look, now that this has come out, like I've realized

1:00:01 They couldn't tell anyone. The placebo effect. I think that's a cool way to approach anyone really. Do you and hope they catch them, you know? and it will be what happens. and I love this story, because I heard her on a podcast, actually. And it was sent to me, they started being able to teach, just do the whole thing, watching my son play basketball and he's not boxing out and he's not doing this, I'm like, oh, good, oh, good, I can't even watch, you know?

1:04:24 things? And that's what's so cool is for some of the individuals Right? smells you receive sleeping in your childhood bed again, like your crotchety uncle who's mad about that, like the game of, you Yeah. It's really cool. I have no idea how I knew that was the right thing to do. But it was. Yeah. the world and speech pathologists and principals and ministers and rabbis and everyone who's

1:07:53 need to spell and engage in society, they've not been able to have a career yet. over the world. what the experience is like for both the parents and the child, and that this is a completely Yeah, with everything. You're just constantly being bombarded with data. But right, it's not informing their, yeah. Because it changes the way we think about human beings.

1:10:58 read electrical signals, to read magnetic signals. Like, what's going on there? What You can't see it, but it's there. It's almost like they have a school of fish is essentially the same thing and he postmarked it on March 5th. Well, you know, maybe two weeks later, he got a letter you know, wonderful author, I know this to be true, because I've experimented it,

1:13:28 this was part and parcel of being human. wear barefoot shoes, right? people manipulating those words and trying to decipher whether or not this is true or not. And then I got the phone call or, or the, my aunt came to me in a dream last night said I love you and I'm always here and it was an emerging aspect, but now I think it's probably not. you would have more of those.

1:16:07 doing a lot of stuff. And now those people were right. But you know, the story behind that is pretty remarkable. And they were like, oh, this is such a good pitch. Like hopefully someone will notice and then we can get the film funded. it's gonna be great. because podcasts are easily shareable. And you're just in their mind like and just can talk to them for

1:19:45 And again, not all spellers, I think. So our first day of filming was yesterday, which was really exciting. they talk about look like, like the chat on the hill. that will be working with the graphics house on that stuff. Houston talks about this telepathic chat room He really is and he's and I think there are different roles that this person might talk

1:21:58 And then I met his good friend, John Paul, who's also kind of based in Atlanta. And I'm like, what on earth? Holy cow, it seems like a lot. He's like well people are really excited about the documentary right now future and see things happening in other spaces in the world. And he was just, you know, I think we were connecting to be of my students, have you ever heard about this? They talk about going to some place

1:24:34 So he's fascinating. But one of the things he told me, he's like, oh yeah, we have a maybe can teach you how to like dial into the right frequency. You know, I'm not exactly that I'm really excited about. And then once the telepathy tapes came out, these Facebook groups sprang up of families that were kind of going through the stuff and in that process

1:26:37 It's still remarkable. So anytime someone says something we will try to validate it And then there's that moment of like oh my god like that's happening with all of us all the time to that mind-blowing How do the other kids name it? He didn't hear it from someone else? And so- And one of them was this young man who reached out after episode two. to listen to it because it's really cool.

1:29:09 that you can't just go in, Oh, I know it's like one of the pains actually for me tracks and what happened is he was diagnosed what happens in your world really did something in his brain that allowed him to live in that I just knew it was their voice, Whoa. and develop methods to try to tap into that, Well, that's- How about clean your brain out? because we all have certain stuff that,

1:32:49 you? But like, one of the teachers who's been just she's been such an advocate and fighter in And right before she was leaving the classroom, he's like, well, once you were thinking of me, that was like my invitation to come in. but you can't just come into my mind whenever, that's not appropriate, you know? them, you know. He said, you're gonna be able to talk without words.

1:36:00 lot of people out there in this world that do not have thoughts of love and Well, that's... And one of the things she does in these precognition tests is be like, how much unconditional love I've heard that over and over again. Anything that unifies. or as a society. And when I brought that up to a few non-speakers, they can lift up a car and save their baby.

1:38:43 that can be really stressful, She went and like lived in the jungle for months, So it's like, is it smart to be trying to test the stuff move the science forward. We know what's happening. We know, now we need to know how, not why. and Northern light, you know, whatever they're explaining. And I feel like the scientists, Well, how about just be objective?

1:41:43 You're not open-minded. You know my can I be that's gonna be like we got to go test this We all give up our money to the guru and he has sex with all of us, but it's great like what? And what is reading people, though, right? that we were doing together with this gal that he was dating And he's like, no, no, no. oh, everything's wrong here. Poor thing.

1:44:48 Like some people I meet are like, something's off. this is a con man. Oh I've seen this before. This is a this and this is a that. I think I heard something. And you're like, oh, you're being silly. You know, put anything in there that you can't measure. the world that like the teachers were hearing telepathy back because I'm like, no one's want to help. Yeah. And when someone's a genuine and you're a child that's

1:47:49 this girl was adopted and she had the best telepathic bond And so that's probably why it looks like more women, but I don't think it's like a gendered Yeah, that's very self-focused. Yeah, and that's To help so many people and lift up like all of America. Yeah But if you went and tried to earn it and so your whole life you were focused on these I'm like, that's so crazy.

1:50:46 Also, here's the real number. you're going to leave behind. rich people being boy he really nailed it he killed the game you know and you kind of control everything. It's a competition. Right. because then you withhold evidence caught and it turns out there's hundreds of people rotting away in a cage that are innocent like tackle the numbers and be super rich and whatever, like would making a difference

1:54:13 get to because they're completely lost and obsessed with this thing that they become And so it's very difficult to get to those people and wearing the fine suit and having the expensive watch and a limited edition that. Oh did you get the new one? Oh and then you know is that we are pursuing technological innovation That's what it does. Yeah, yeah.

1:56:52 That's a bird There's no up. You're just trying to be the best at this thing. And I think like if you can Yeah, attractants about social media. Yeah is what the stuff that people are showing you they have It's just like I would have never wanted to watch kids unbox hot wheels didn't anticipate yeah I don't know I hope it'll be a pendulum because when

1:59:32 to communicate as well. advertisement. Well, and that is what is cool about that world we're living But, you know, I mean, there is a democracy And cool things too, great music. The UAP phenomenon has become so much more mainstream. or whatever. The with the lepathy the same feeling that I get, you know, like when I said I met my interaction that they are reinterpreting as like physical interaction. Yeah. That there's some disconnect between

2:03:16 their tent, one of my friends was on its back before. I know it happened. When he's telling me this, I know it happened. When these people it is. If I was the government and I wanted to be super sneaky, There's something there. He's very skeptical about a lot and highlights a lot of the bullshit to the point where you're like, Right, exactly. That's what's going on here.

2:07:25 And our consciousness is confined by identity. college? Of course not. Like there's no way, there's no universe in which a dog Just a whiff of the wind, and then all of a sudden, There's no idea what's going on. normal? Yeah. And I think that question is pervasive in the UAP world Like look at that. That is so so beautiful I've heard is they just look

2:10:58 I mean it really is like an elaborate dance. Have you ever seen wolves hunt? No, they communicate that the first time she realized something like this And I was watching this through the classroom window. Mothers died and she became and the mother said to this teacher I'll get these huge visual packages. but I do not doubt that the wolves are probably using telepathy

2:13:24 I mean, imagine if one day we can figure out through technology to access minds of animals I mean, there's been that book. That's so, how far away are you when you're? It's like the worst way to hunt someone. constantly being pursued by mountain lions. You got to like, people take their shoes off But there's a company called hex and they make these they make clothes that block out your

2:16:06 up close to fish, they don't even know what the fuck is going on. turkeys have incredible vision. Turkeys have better vision than humans. So that lateral line is interpreting movement in the water. It's interpreting. Right, and the problem is, you know, these people believe it explanation for what it does Google Hex Suit Debunked. I mean if he believes it works, and that's like you know sometimes the

2:19:06 clearly. If you're wearing black and you're standing there and you're a bipedal thing, Yeah, it does. animals see in black and white or in a weird sort of shade. No, what the right? Yes? Yeah Right, you're walking into an environment Like the whole thing is the wind has to be in your face. And they're gone. Yeah. and look in the other way. It's also bizarrely psychedelic in this weird way.

2:22:52 Yeah, right. That's such a cool sport. Yeah. It's a weird, but it's whatever these animals are Yeah, yeah wolves are just real. I mean clear not simple complex obviously, but clear and what they're trying to do in. by latching on to the idea that this is it. Yeah, like your mug with a third eye But in an ideal scenario, what would you like to happen?

2:26:26 Yeah, they're in there. to know, because I've come to what I feel like is believe this, right? That there is like, just be aware of the system of what is called, again, like this materialism, Yeah. stuff, just reading it, you'll find what you're looking for. Do you have a game plan? It'd be non-speakers and we can get people from the Department of Education there or

2:29:39 like the size of an REI in every city where non-speakers can go So if there's, you know, I know non-speakers who want to work in plant medicine, who want to have meaningful careers. anymore it's ridiculous to think that. You know but we're doing the same thing She said, in middle school or whatever, high school, They kept telling me animal colors and this and whatever.

2:32:10 And so in line with how wise and kind and thoughtful so many non-speakers I've met are. Yeah, wonderful. Wherever you get your podcasts. Bye. Bye.