Kash Patel

Date: 2025-06-06 | Duration: 2h 2m

Episode Overview

Kash Patel, the newly appointed FBI Director under the Trump administration, joins Joe to describe what it's actually like to be the head of the most powerful law enforcement agency in America. His answer: completely wild. Kash walks through the gap between what he thought the job would be and the reality once he was inside, the bureaucratic inertia he encountered, and his plans to reform an agency he believes has been weaponized against political opponents. They cover the FBI's role in the Hunter Biden laptop story, FISA surveillance abuses, the Russiagate investigation, and what Patel calls the two-tiered justice system. Kash also addresses threats to his life, his background as a public defender before joining government, and what he sees as the existential battle over whether the American legal system can be trusted again.

About Kash Patel

Kash Patel is the current Director of the FBI, a position he assumed in February 2025, marking a significant milestone in his distinguished career within the U.S. intelligence and national security sectors. With a background as a federal public defender and national security prosecutor, Patel has held pivotal roles in the Department of Justice, the Trump administration, and across various arms of the Intelligence Community and Department of Defense. Known for his outspoken views on national security and his advocacy for transparency, Patel has become a prominent figure in contemporary discussions on government accountability and legal reforms. His unique blend of legal expertise and practical experience in high-stakes environments makes him a compelling voice in the ongoing debate over the balance between security and civil liberties.

Key Moments

– What it's actually like to run the FBI
– Weaponization of the FBI against political opponents
– Hunter Biden laptop — FBI's role in suppression
– FISA surveillance abuse and Russiagate investigation failures
– Two-tiered justice system and institutional accountability
– FBI reform agenda and bureaucratic resistance
– Threats to Patel's life and personal security
– Background as a public defender before government service
0:00:00 – What is it like to be head of the FBI — completely f'ing wild
0:00:20 – What he thought it would be vs. what he found when he got in
0:14:29 – How the FBI became weaponized against political opposition
0:29:57 – FISA abuse — surveilling Americans without proper oversight
0:44:57 – The two-tiered justice system Patel wants to dismantle
1:00:00 – Hunter Biden laptop — what the FBI knew and when
1:15:00 – Threats to Patel's safety and what he deals with daily
1:30:00 – Being a public defender before entering government service

Transcript Excerpt

Starting point is 00:00:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Trained by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. All right. What's going on, man? How you doing, Joe? Very good to see you, sir. Thanks for having me in Austin. What is it like to be the head of the FBI? Starting point is 00:00:20 How weird is that? It's completely f'ing wild. I mean, I don't even know how to describe it. What did you think it was going to be like and what was different once you got in there? I thought that we were going to be able to come in with the movement that President Trump came in with, the administration to fix the errors that the Trump came in with the administration to fix this, fix the errors that the leadership of the FBI previously made. Not like the 37,000 change people. Starting point is 00:00:52 And we are. We're doing a ton of work. I didn't know we would be able to do it this quickly. Is my surprise. And what that showed me was the people at the Bureau, literally, people who have been there 30 year agents are coming up to me like, dude, we wanted to do that 15 years ago. Really? We wanted to do that 10 years ago. And then my question was like, you guys are the pros. Like, I'm just, my job is the Starting point is 00:01:16 director. I'm not chasing down bad guys. I don't know how to do that is to give them what you need to get the hell out of the way. And they were like, dude, all they did was get in the way. So like, what what kind of stuff specifically did you start doing that they wanted to do 15 years ago? Simple, the one that I've taken the biggest heat for. When I said, hey, there are, these are the statistics from the USG. Starting point is 00:01:41 So you can take them or leave them, right? I don't know where else to go because nobody else does these, right? In the last calendar year, not this one year before last, 100,000 people were dying of drug overdoses a year. That's one every seven minutes. A child or kid was being raped every six and a half minutes in this co...

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