Joe Rogan Experience #244 — Immortal Technique Transcript

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0:00 yeah My stillborn first expression is cold Like the faces of slave masters on a pay-by-fold With a spiritual flashlight And they call you a hater Who brush their wings Shaking off the rigor mortis, the border should be illegal instead of the people I can cheat your mind I am the maker of rules dealing with fools Like so many other things in this world, some people think that nothing's free.

3:35 And you decided to release it free? Holy shit. He's the homie, you know what I mean? for people who are listening. to put it out for free? and then gives it out to people and gets angry when they download your terrible music? I would have probably got killed. look if you really support what i say you like the music then come to a show yeah same way people

5:42 Of course, when you give people shit for free, They get to be a part of it all. distribution deal which means that that's about as independent as we can possibly be without me And I was like, yo, let's help build something here. and you end up paying it all off? It's become that more, right? around i was signed to a 360 deal before they would take a piece of that yeah what are they

8:51 If I have a good idea, right, who get on, myspace and it has you know i don't know 20 million people on it signed up look at the how many actual cds move do they probably about. Maybe I've sold maybe about a quarter million records of the four albums that I've had out. If I support an artist, if I like somebody and i think they're dope and they're a friend of mine i go to

10:54 They're technically not WAV files. That was the best quality sound. But better than Blu-ray? No, I it's like... But better than Blu-ray? I watched a regular movie the other day One of those white people conquer Africa movies, right? It was the ghost in the darkness. Maybe he's just trying to get even, man. What I mean by we're not on their food chain is that's not a regular part of their diet.

13:27 I think it was 300,000 Apparently, the tigers drink it, and it makes them fucking crazy. Tigers can swim fast, man. They give lessons of murder. out of your fucking food i mean that was where it all you know that's but they're they're they're Oh, yeah. They can get really dangerous. Yeah. I think that's what it's called. they're uh pregnant when women are pregnant that's why they tell them never fuck with cat litter

16:56 But it altered, it's a parasite, essentially. And it's been shown to make people extra aggressive. In England, in Europe, 80% of France is infested with toxoplasma. People in general. Freedom Fries. On several occasions. so they cut it up. from the very start i mean french people they they get away with it because you think of them in wine I can't be mad at that.

21:01 and all that. I've met a lot of really cool French people. what a lot of people don't know, Mostly they focus on Aztec, Maya, Inca, but there are so many other individuals. So that was when people were developing very uniquely on their own. what the advanced civilization I mean, those guys were doing. that there's I think it's silly to assume that the aliens helped us,

24:49 just the fact that we can do the nutty shit that we can do i would never rule out that somewhere along the line someone we got fucked with yeah someone gave us some shit or fucked the block, man. I like them trees. I'm going Bigfoot. You won't. We would already know from Google Maps or Google Earth. An eel They found What's at the bottom Because the problem with these, what are they called?

26:49 I mean, there's no bones there except for their teeth. And several of them in a row. Yeah. My friend Bud has a tooth in his office, a megalodon tooth. Dudes think that this is just, no, it's a bone. So it's real. And sharks went through teeth like Carson went through wives. What about an octopus that didn't have tentacles, but they had sharks instead of tentacles?

29:26 that he'll do that to you but dude imagine that would be crazy with shark heads at the end of it Well, that's a pretty good record. If we did that, intelligent dolphin that knows things from the food chain and use our infinite I had a conversation with a friend of mine. yeah i think the idea of natural is getting to be silly and i think we have to look at it as

32:17 Oh, yeah. And commerce looks at all they're trying to do is figure out the best way to extract money from this. There's a fascinating thing that happens when people get involved in big groups of people that are designed to make money. It just feels like it's a snowflake. environment if the parasites that are naturally preying on weed or whatever the fuck it is that

34:43 It becomes the human race. and or get the seeds from it and grow new plants and it could be a natural thing you know and then You would think that they would have the ability for people to petition to say this is illegal I just don't think you should be allowed to do that. put them in debt you're gonna put them in a non-natural cycle. Why do they have to, you know, they can't get, none of it can be used.

37:28 some of the most totalitarian states that exist in the world practically that we turn a blind eye to. it can be said that I'm here to be able to confront a state that sponsors terrorism. we use to criticize these other places, You're going to have to accept not going to the spa every other day. Very rarely do you find someone that says, oh, yeah, I'm just doing this because I'm trying

39:19 It just becomes about making money making sure we're free you're a cunt that's a cunt thing you're that's crazy and the crazy You can say shout out I want to get a shout out We're angry at the individuals who are in charge Apparently, they can keep too much money, we can't afford that, we gotta bring you back. You've got to go to the desert for a year, maybe more.

42:10 I remember there was some story about a girl in the bushing station. I think they probably would drink that milk. See, that's not even the problem. I don't think these people are on organic diets. Is there something like that? They made Agent Orange. Well, they lost a giant Beautiful women. And you've got, you know, there's tough guys at every weight class from Brazil.

43:49 Thank you, sir. I actually took jiu-jitsu for about three or four years when I was a kid. Shout out to sensei When you are sitting there playing video games, someone is running laps and smashing, you to say, you know what, young brother, realized the only way to get good at it is just intense hard work and focus. Everything else in It's either this or kill you.

46:28 If this was a life or death struggle, You got to look at it 100% realistically. we had to show what we learned by fighting our sensei. Did you ever see stars? And it was more like if in the middle of the fight we did something wrong, we got punished for it because he said, you know better. you didn't put in the work, only happened to you because you weren't focused enough,

49:01 Like, I didn't want to do anything. in that position before on other shows listen the man who hits his woman is a coward like my father was a very strong man he said listen with trying to ruin your life. That's a big part of the fucking problem. Did you grow up like that? and very, He was really, really tough on us to the Amazon jungle with me. Oh, you're scared of

51:19 area in Peru so you can see people You've got to know when to let that fucking kid be himself. Real shit. and you can get the fuck out and real shit i left how old were you like 16 15 you kind of have to do more than it hurt me Which is why I always believe No, it's not life or death, homie. on fucking a yellow light they're putting themselves in a bad situation but i mean at

54:20 I lived in Jamaica Plain for a little over a year. And you're like, look, I'm going home. Most of the times they're growing up with their fucking parents. This is too dangerous. No, no, no. It means just go one on one. willing to fight that actually don't know how to fight that's always that's always amazing when i You're willing to do something that's really fucking dangerous and risky,

56:47 And a fucking bus moved in front of me. Well, we don't say. You know what I mean? That's the hard part, right? looking at is people doing shit to other people. We collectively stop that. get past it's like we're like the crazy person that never learns from their crazy actions just We haven't cured racism. say something spectacular, And that is always a problem.

59:58 unleash it if you bought it you know if you got it from somebody else it's just which I think is one of the worst excuses for murder in the world. seem to have their little exit in deciding to be fuckheads you know what, That doesn't make any sense. Looking for Al Qaeda in a country that don't have them. and evolved naturally in other words if we took somebody from now and supplanted them into that

1:02:53 because of the internet, And if there's not a bunch of people carrying signs, you're not getting anything from the Yeah. was talking about how Chick-fil-A is not welcome in Boston because Chick-fil-A has this – Fucking sandwiches are delicious. Was it the mayor of Boston or the governor of Massachusetts? that they weren't welcome. It's kind of funny

1:04:46 Actively victimizing anybody You know Maybe Chick-fil-A is It gets tricky when you can profit off distributing your tricky when you profit off distributing your opinion, you know, You know, very different. We're very simple. Come to a comedy show, influence. You know, very different. but someone apparently had the idea the guy came in in a costume,

1:06:42 actions however i know what it would be if he had been like, you know, he had like a Muslim He's scarier than someone that's a part of some sort of a religious ideology. If he was of complexion that can't make the connection, would he be walking? was that there's too many people with cameras on you. Because he shot that kid Is a fucking device And you accidentally

1:08:20 People do things like that all the time that they don't think they're going to have consequences for. He did dye his hair, too. just up and he panicked who knows but he got a slap on the wrist and i i always joke about it How many people have been the victim of that? You're always seeing the worst in people. Someone had to go in there and stop him.

1:10:42 like that but this is my question though. If you're a cop, that to put people in a situation and go, all right, I might do a year in jail. Right. I think you can if there's money in it for you, you know, and I think there's levels of corruption. are you more responsible for your corruption and then you still broke it? we could all do that we could all do that if we could all picture every any person regardless of

1:13:41 And is that what life really is all about, Is figuring out that each one of us is exactly the same. them talk shit to you can't let them fuck up your life you know you do your best to keep them on Los Angeles has decided to step in in their infinite wisdom and shut down the only businesses that are regularly making money in all of Los Angeles. The idea that—

1:15:22 Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah, so congratulations to our friend Tommy Chong. like sucking on crystals, I chew this shit down every day. I drank this shit one day. with it. My latest thing, I add coconut oil to it. Because Rob Wolf, who will be on tomorrow, Coconut is a wonderful fucking plant. The water from coconuts is the shit. Need some coconuts to back that shit up.

1:18:40 you didn't know that no dude we should they open know that? No. Dude, we should totally. They open one in Inglewood, too. They nailed it, man. You can't fuck with Roscoe's. There would be lines out the door every day. Chicken and waffles if Mitt Romney Yeah. And they were allowed to. They're doing it because they have power and that they didn't earn they don't deserve it they're dumb cunts that's why they're doing it they're idiots the idea that

1:21:03 a fuck what dr. Drew says. Marijuana is not plucking hairs out of your arms should be illegal. People are silly. It feels natural to me. Then I want to have all my faculties then I wouldn't want to do it high. Then I wouldn't want There's no physical I'm advising that people Yeah, I believe so. and that indica weed is all over the East Coast. weed out there but no no i'm not even saying that. West Coast weed. There's a lot of great West Coast indica.

1:23:34 And it's hard to know for sure that the guy who's selling to you is legit. We're putting tax on something. that we haven't like wrote written a new one like how about we get together and decide like as a fucking race what's the best thing we could do for the It's a digital salary. No fear factor ass shit. Silly, silly, silly. I ask everyone this. Where I could do

1:25:53 And LA is like You know But I have a lot of family. not only from people who were involved in it, Was that the Jewish guy talking to you like that? I'm like, oh, you're trying to rip me off, son. for them to be like, hey man, can I have my money please? Or like, you owe Louis Armstrong getting every last dollar that they could. The stuff you pay back in terms of the loan doesn't come out of the gross.

1:28:34 The amount of studio time. Where did you start this off? I did some Dr. Seuss type shit I'm going to find instrumentals. I know a lot of people where a guy's going off on you, In the battle scene now, there's nothing that's off limits. If you said something in a battle, you had to be prepared to back it up afterwards. And start battling them. oh, yeah, well, he tried.

1:31:29 He's a badass rapper who's also a badass mixed martial arts fighter. Yeah. The only way you win this battle You know what I mean? Like in other words, you and I, it's run more the way the UFC would be, where you and emcees, and they would call two people to come in the middle that didn't even know each other. Lay down some mats. insults at some point i think if you don't make the insults clever and there's no technique to

1:33:58 where you're insulting each other? And then you got to come back and perform a rap. that work that puts in that says, you know what? threw a personal battle which uh there were two winners There was a guy called Nestle in a class big shout out to them and what their battle was was for the opportunity Right, to prove, you know what, I'm more than just a funny guy

1:35:57 There's an art to that. But we know a dude that's a funny guy, and he doesn't do any real comedy. Now you have to come up with something original, an idea that's all your own, that you own, that you put down, which is technically what you do when you make a song. it's good to fuck around with the crowd sometimes i don't i actually don't mind a little bit of it

1:37:53 He doesn't like to say that he came out and invented the idea of having pay-per-view battle rap. You really have to be a real fuck up. There's a little bit, there's a little more of a street element, I think, involved in battle rap. Right. listen to me of their own life it's got to be a weird hollow empty feeling empty feeling. But you know, in the same respect, when comedy has ghostwriters, for example.

1:40:26 where you have somebody like a Paul Mooney Chris Rock used Nick DiPaolo Well, there's a lot of people in comedy that don't accept it either. I don't know how the fuck he does it. Shout out to Louie because that's what I do It's not that their ideas aren't great. Like, that's one thing that's really cool because if somebody gives you a tagline It's my friend. Hook my

1:42:44 No, no. I think it's more like that. that that was like a real business. you have digital versions of everything you do. A A A A A A A A A That business and the music business My twitter is so strange to me Because I'm finding out more shit through my twitter to the radio, the internet is a part of everything. It's getting so weird, man. just in the next 10 or 20 years,

1:45:26 You meet more people on the Internet that you're going to meet in real life. You know what I mean? they look and see, OK, someone's rolling up on walking down the street. Well, again, you know, people have to treat everybody else as if it was you live another life. and we're not cunts. And everything we do Wouldn't you be happier doing your business, making half as much, having a 1,000-foot yacht

1:47:28 $12 billion. imagine we make $11 billion. I just thought I'd know and to the model of business, this business is on the decline. Yeah. Is there a way around that? well, actually, How many fucking people they're in a dorm. Yeah. That's Well, I mean, they're in a dorm. Yeah. Shut up. Now. The button's people ate the fuck out of them and then someone decided that they tasted really good i bet they do i don't know i've had rabbit

1:51:16 So there's almost no way you can detach yourself from the system and then start off with some new path. You're not going to have your fucking kids be poor just because you have a dream And when people are caught up in any sort of fanatical pursuit, especially real things like a house that you can knock on. We've decided that. at the very forefront of any of the decisions.

1:53:39 By providing us with real things that come from the ones and zeros, they have sort of figured out a way to hijack our system. square miles. a less effective sort of a system in place. explanations for why And that's a ones and zeros economic situation. that we all just don't fit that even toying with that, for it at all. And they don't know what the fuck is going to happen.

1:56:09 or what are you gonna do you're gonna coal you're gonna fucking you know have coal factories and They enslaved thousands of people and told them, doesn't any in any way answer the question, Like, how about the Acropolis where the Parthenon is under? what? But I mean when you go down Or how did the heads on Easter Island get there their hands and shit. But the bodies

1:58:25 Two things. And when they do that, you know exotic animals carved into them. Incredible, incredible work. they've actually found that uncovered a very small percentage of this place. And then they're probably like, hey, look, Yeah, they don't know where it came from. and then trying to figure out how the fuck they did it Do you want to steal Katy Perry?

2:01:18 Did you talk about on a podcast about how hilarious that Tim Heidecker Yeah, I didn't see that movie, but I loved him in the Sarah Marshall movie. It's like something X or something like that. talk show, isn't it? Or something like that. This is the poster that they did it to. Tearing them up. I think he's just Your man don't like you You really think so?

2:03:48 Why did he agree to that? I think there's a way to avoid that. Does he have to tell you that sometimes? Oh, so you guys battle when you're on the road? They don't like that feeling of being introspective, feeling of really analyzing yourself objectively. not feeling anything i'm just floating in that water and when you're doing that you're forced You know, you're not getting anywhere.

2:06:20 That's really the simplest thing. People are saying now that there'll be some kind of And if that terrible thing And deal with the fact that escape this this is something permanent that has affected our well the real problem is the word But it's a very small amount of cunts. leaders and somewhat like look this is my only thing in terms of republicans and democrats when we have this debate and we discuss it they're they're both have to pander to corporations

2:09:16 unless you didn't convince people that you're a good Christian, Yeah, the reason why anybody who wants to be president shouldn't be president is that nobody should want to be president. It's a form of leadership, a form of hierarchy that exists in small groups of primates. Well, I know, but I'm saying he should be able to abandon that. You're going to do something for me.

2:10:53 That hustle's a weak-ass hustle. Especially in the modern age. Man of the people. love or long life or a cure for sickness. Well, that's 3,500 years from now. he was trying to tell people, took a position then all of them have to be illogical. If oh it's impossible for jesus to have resurrected okay but that the religion, it was easy to give them religion.

2:14:21 I care about her a lot. And she depended on that idea. Then it's ennobled you. It doesn't make any sense. One magical act. Just like today, they figured out the internet. you know the answers because if you go back to in the hills of Qumran. and precisely time something. It's really trippy. basic our form of communication ancient languages if we were back in those times and maybe not though maybe it was really fucking

2:18:44 And it was said that even the emperor As a speech, but it had to have rhythm to it. No, but I mean, are there really old rhymes? Who figured out rhyming? You go to the zoo and one chimp will hit another chimp. Because there really is something cool about rhyming shit. Show Friday, dirty freaks. which is probably one of the fucking coolest spots on earth.

2:20:53 I ate an edible and... That was a weird one. like, you're making noise that could play an instrument Like she would write you a song for your birthday or something. You're so vain. If it was good, like her voice was really good. I bet you think this song songs about you? I think it would be amazing. You're so vain. Fuck those people. And they don't exist anymore?

2:22:43 I've never been there and they want to play monkey get the Bigfoot. I might have to talk. Yeah, the Rampart unit. yeah how many witnesses yeah it's uh the internet age has really changed a lot of shit it's it's police department was corrupt. harass individuals for money and they were extorting dealers at the time jesus it was crazy smack for you. Press up, do whatever

2:25:14 So the police made some sort of a deal where they would take a piece of the action. I'm going to fucking kill you. that's kind of what it is. from crime, that's all good. they wouldn't even ask for help. And I don't know how do you fix that but for it that's a there's a real problem with human beings and when you get people used everyone around them living the same way

2:28:08 They're used to saying, oh, this isn't illegal? and they're lost some of them are lost and they just don't know what the hell they're doing and And in some cases. It's the abandonment of humanity while pursuing capitalism. It doesn't have to be that way. that's not real capitalism. They might have the semblance of what capitalism is within the confines of certain sectors

2:30:14 You have the Atlantic and you have the Pacific, your neighboring countries. fucking world no one's going to be have to work harder to be You know why? big contracts to shape up human beings. To take young human beings in any sort of impoverished area becoming the most fucked up? Where is it? they go we're going to rebuild ghettos instead of going over to fucking iraq and blowing shit up and

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2:38:36 What show is he on? Which is only available Friday it's Maynard from Tool He will return