Joe Rogan Experience #247 — Tito Ortiz Transcript

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0:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! I think the fans will dig it, too. You know, I have love for something that I've never wanted to get rid of. take care of your family. It's punishment. And that's what all life and walks of life go through That's it. But I've always wanted to be dominating, be on top and just polarize a guy, just try to finish them and make him not want to fight me again.

2:17 What I'm doing is I'm hooking the chin. chin under my arm i'm fine but once you hook and kind of snuggle thing to me seems as an observer watching it seems it's hard for dudes to put new aspects to Guys think, Cause in wrestling that I learned was I would do it anymore no you'll lose it during going live because in you did it as reaction guy defend that

4:03 chain wrestling Then after I started learning offenses, okay, great, now I got those positions, good. for a head and arm and uh low single i mean that was people go you tie up with them he's gonna head Let's learn snap down. Yeah. Steroids. He caught Belfer with him over and over and over, and all of a sudden he got away from I mean, he admitted they shot him with testosterone.

6:46 He was in pride. It's interesting when you see guys, when you catch guys in between camps. And he sort of on his own for a little bit, too. I mean, we go through a lot mentally. He went to Livermore High. Tank at that time. I was training with Tank. Dude, I want to fight in the UFC. I could What did you do during that time? I wrestled. background i knew how to street fight i mean i had a fight so that's how you looked at you

9:45 It was, I don't know, I just really didn't think too much about it. And people listening were going, you're Tito Ortiz. Arm wrestling to the ground? kristen she was like i don't want you to happen what happened to paul happened to you I didn't really understand what sparring was about. and I didn't want to get punched in the face by him. when I went to Cal State Bakersfield after I fought my first time, I took a year off.

12:16 I'm either going to kick your ass or I'm out of here. I worked there. It was the best door for you. Me and one of my other friends went out there. I'll kick any of these guys' ass. at the time i was a young kid i was cocky and how old were you i was uh 22. i just know i just turned I think God has put me in the right ways a lot of things. Yeah, I mean, when I was a kid, you know, I mean, I had a problem.

14:32 My parents could never buy me anything. this is right the reason why i do that yeah it's a learning process and i think each person knows And I'm still learning. and be strung out on heroin as my parents were. But I was just trying to sell. No. It's not about others who made you make those decisions. And I wanted to move out too, but she was like, here, time for you to be a man.

17:28 Drugged out. I'm fine. I'm looking at myself. I go, yeah. We partied that night. Sunday rolled around. I was at Rhino Room in Huntington Beach. I was drinking. We partied that night. and I have these conversations with myself all the time, just to read a reality check to check I remember Raul Duarte at Golden West College had a big smile on his face,

19:35 Yeah, I mean, I knew I was in a bad spot too. come up and uh you know i look look at it. It was a gift. I mean, my situation was when I would drink, I would like to party. But really what it was, was I didn't feel normal anymore. because the only way to push that stuff away The security that I had from my coaches and from at the time my girlfriend Kristen who backed me, I just felt great from it.

21:34 The coach would be looking at me going, all right, our training's done. I would hallucinate that I was walking on a red carpet. was that God the best I can for my kids and provide them with the most love and give them the most experiences. And I've worked so hard to make sure that doesn't happen for my surroundings now yeah i look at it yes i have You have to make sure that they're working hard for what they're getting.

23:50 That's awesome. Well, that's amazing. You know, he's seen you win and lose. He's like, I can't watch you God, Dad, now we can spend time together. And that's how much time I'm away from when we'll try to get that motherfucker sold i bet we can say i bet there's some fans out there that I mean, it's got its arcade system. I mean, it's a manhouse for sure. It's dope. It's all own jacuzzi in the room. Everything's set on the inside. I mean, it's got an arcade system.

26:13 I mean, I go there. Oh, come on, dude. What happens if your kid gets straight A's And he says he wants to be a fighter. It's on YouTube. I don't want to watch you lose. I may have overtrained myself a little bit. So did it feel like it was in the spine itself? to have all the information about a guy's performance you really got to know you've gone through knee surgeries, neck surgery, back surgery.

29:19 flexible piece or something in between? Does that change your movement? Same exact thing.'m a dr william It was dented. Yeah. And I still fought I mean I wasn't I mean I had no choice Yeah, it's like he's hammering a leg in on a wooden chair. it was challenges, man. for making excuses, It's, look, there's so many. it just so people understood what they're going through this is so fucking crazy so right now

32:49 And he's like, now he's just pulling little disc pieces out completely. No, really. Oh, Jesus. Oh! are you fucking joking right now? downstairs and i was up in bed laying down we're talking about i just like man i wish i'd be I got kicked off because I had to get neck surgery. He goes, so I had to stay in the house for an extra month and a half. So I was like, all right.

36:00 So it was tough. Well, a little, I mean, we don't physical therapy, you know, at, uh, um, Joe Donahue Tito, you've got to understand, all those nerve endings are starting to heal up again. I mean, he's not making money off the painkillers. Doctors say take them, take them. another way to fucking stop pain than that. addicted to those things It's bizarre.

38:22 and they could not fucking get off. So my uncle hooked him up with tricep heroin. But when I was six years old, everything changed. do you feel like you could have ever been the guy you were if you didn't have such a child no of being a straight-A student, by all the damage I've done to my brain when I was younger, You're like, God, I just want to see you guys stand up and just punch each other in the face.

40:42 A lot. But there's no doubt he paid a price. was uh you know someone's asking him you know what's what's going on with you you're gonna fight Who did Terry Norris KO that was like a vicious KO puncher? I mean, football players and other guys that have the concussion. Look, Terry Norris had gotten stopped a bunch of times in his career. We're fighting.

42:53 Yeah. Some guys can handle that but But, I mean, I don't like to get hit. Like, you got a ticket, okay, and there's only so many places you can punch a hole in that ticket. But when it's time to cash in that check. Pull up a video. You're knocking guys out and they're blowing snot bubbles. No, we're not at home. He barely gets hit, and everybody loves watching him fight.

45:16 But people can't figure out how to beat Anderson yet. Oh, that was it. Stuff like this is what does it. I watched him fight Dana Rosenblatt. Because Jason, you know, he's worked with some great guys. I mean, you see it. Like, what's the tally? and then they go eat. So they call it punch drunk. the sort of post workout post getting punched in the head feeling.

48:06 problems at all. Well, that was my thing. I never wanted first fight with a couple good shots, I think Rampage and when we were sparring made me see some twinkle bells where everything felt like it's been there. fuck away from me let me stand on my feet get I was fine. I mean, the judge was trying to keep me down. I was like, get the fuck away from me.

49:17 Yeah. Fighting is so lonely, and people don't understand it unless you're a fighter. That's as far as it goes. And I was like, fuck. happy you jumped up that was like watching Channel, and you see a lion chasing a gazelle and trying to eat for the first time in his life. I kept my elbow down, and I just squeezed everything Because I'm not going through something where he didn't

51:58 because when I drop Bader, I'm going to drop him, I'm going to beat him, top dominant especially, that don't have that wrinkle in their game. That was my mess up. And I know now to grab onto my shin. point in time, you have to tap. He's 26 years old, He might be. But it's just one of those things I say, man, you get those submissions And when I went to Abu Dhabi, it was when I started learning, you know, I started realizing, I mean, I was a wrestler.

54:24 But then you get a little lazy when you start doing jiu-jitsu. You start going, taking me down. No way. I was defending, defending. Then pull guard. Not yet, no. Well, if someone fights him, give me an opportunity and I'll show you a defense for a triangle that everybody can get out. put the knee down, and Yeah. That's a good shirt for you, Brian. It's good. Good shit. Somebody on the mic isn't on him. Yeah. That's a good shirt for you, Brian.

55:59 We just make, constantly making sure you're always in shape. So I was like, all right, I get to party, I get to drink, have fun with my friends. I had a party with my friends and for the first month and as soon as that month was over okay Because when your coach says you can't do that, Because you're worried about doing something where you're not. But you jump in the arm bar on somebody.

58:08 And, you know, I started Team Punishment when we first started. that you just try to bring the best guys around you. I always did that. And it was a weird half-full gymnasium. There was a ground guy that I would use, John Loeber. And I would have Fabio Aniha do our jiu would have Fabio Niha do our jiu-jitsu. Rampage was in his ear saying shit great trainer

1:01:03 and how much focus you put on coaching kids. If any collegiate wrestlers are out there, That was my family. I mean, when I deal with a fighter, he's seen all the stuff we did. What can I be on a positive influence to you guys to make you guys love to be here? Bisbing around. I go, be the asshole, dude. I'm paying for my kids. Oh, she was talking about fucking money again.

1:03:18 When you're making $120 million Their personality lends itself to competing, and that's about it. entertainment to it there's a showbiz aspect to it people have to appreciate i mean That's the drive, right? I made a clothing company. to never step on anybody to get ahead. And I really think good things will happen. to go through life with that idea that you are aspiring to the wants and desires of a higher power that's all-knowing,

1:06:36 And if you can call that God, Who knows? You know, and I said, did you me it's myself I look in the mirror and I said did you The challenge I've been through in my relationships, personal stuff. It was a true challenge that I looked back on and I was just like, that's a gift for trying to help someone. more more well-rounded person really if you allow it to or if you allow you can just decide that oh

1:08:56 Don't be a fucking pussy. because you look in the mirror and you're by yourself I want to make sure I'm a good dad. working with the kids, Because I went through those same type of trials when I was a kid. past because I believe that I was able to do it I mean there were times when I watched Hulk Hogan and Muhammad Ali. Well, I would watch that. I mean, I won world titles.

1:11:42 If you look back. And it was never towards the Fertitta family. I fought for those things because he told me to fight don't worry about it. They'll answer. That's not Dana. It's crazy. I was defending for my family. But me and him, we have a very different relationship. He's got a whole lot of doesn't give a fuck. Me and him, we always get along great.

1:14:42 Yeah. Well, it is an opportunity, and it's an opportunity that you have capitalized on better than most. So you can hand out- I would literally sit there and put them on every single chair in the front row. It's free. A lot of people are throwing those cards away. But I say, I mean, as fighters, like I say, It was about promotion. I was making them for him.

1:17:07 And you see a little Team Punishment logo on them. those things just going wow i i've helped get this where it is today and it's over but i'm okay with couple months ago. They go to any university they want. I think I use my brain for a lot more than just fighting. And I'm sick of all the pressure. Not letting so many people around me down. I was laying in the middle of the cage up in Big Bear for two minutes paralyzed.

1:19:33 They think, oh, how did you deal with that? Test my arms. So this is the same neck injury that you wound up getting surgery on. Yeah, I got surgery. family, of course, but at the same time him blasting me. And it sucks, man. fuck, I ain't got nothing left. My eyebrow bone was cracked. and I got hit with a couple shots. they went in did surgery five days before the before the Ultimate Fighter Season 11 was over, he goes, we got to let you go.

1:22:25 The show, though, is to promote a fight, right? Oh, I told you he'd pull out. And that's what they've always tried to do. I've always tried to help this company prevail and get better, years. It's been bad, but I've been able to survive. And you look at other fighters like That's why they banned him? Well, he hurt himself on the show. I know that you and Dana had some issues.

1:24:54 So you feel like you just unfairly portrayed as far as your injuries from my fans and I still hear Pick on my kid. But the raddest thing is the only association go to the school, and just give them and how my real name's Jacob. I have a fake name. Don't give a fuck, right? Wrestling saved my life. Did he really though? Yes, in the Bible read. wings. It was really

1:27:44 punishment.com and it says wrestling saved my life. And I made a shirt actually people go to punishment.com and it says Yeah. I want to show guys this business-wise to promote what you've got to do to do it. Did you do any while you're fighting? because I started realizing why I was reacting the way I was. You started to get soft, I think, because I started realizing why I was reacting the way I was.

1:28:58 You know, I took yoga when I was young, and I stopped taking it because I thought if you were enlightened, it would be bad for you as a comedian. Funny, funny, funny. And I didn't realize until i was I'm very thankful that my dad was actually good until I was about six. I mean, Me and Jenna together, she's perfect for me. You know, learning from it.

1:31:43 Yeah. Read. Like I said, I can't rehearse this over and over and over and over again. You've got to embrace the losses as far as Continue to analyze yourself. and I guarantee you they're going to get something out of this. and going, hi Tito, how are you? I watched on Apprentice and you're such a nice guy. Lennox Lewis? What was he like? He's just like cool.

1:34:16 He wasn't a, like, when Tyson was the king, it was like, it was Tyson the destroyer, and then it all fell apart. I love even an Overeem story. I had an opportunity to sell out and step over Omarosa and call her out and just make her look like shit. ahead of you. Yeah, Oh, Who is that pretty girl? That would be a great person to date. He won it. and really paying attention.

1:36:35 Put a lot on MMA, of course, but St. Jude's Hospital I think people get so associated automatically with the ultimate fighting. It's so easy for people to do that. You don't even know what sore is. and i i have i i've i block people like no other i'm doing the negative stuff i since the beta about you and everything around you you're going to see and just you're done and da-da-da.

1:39:18 I watched this beta fight. When I win, you'll see. Ignorance is bliss. the only reason to watch Dana and Joseph they're built to become world champions and they're built. Or at least to have a good financial run at the title. Right. But still, it's making money. me he fights his first six seven eight fights 10 fights 15 fights then all of a sudden when he's

1:41:51 There's exceptions for guys like that. like six years old i'm like fuck yeah i'm really that old mike mcdonald i think he's only 21 maybe Do you do the UFC fighting style at your gym? training center.com so that is also one of the fucking cool things about the sport is that you can go and take classes. I was there for two years, and when I left, we were second in the league.

1:43:37 Can you imagine if you were a young boxer? There's a floor It's actually 10,000 square feet I think she said that was huge What I want for training and get the next level of fighters, of course. And we're still building, man. They do kickboxing. It's like. And all the time I grew up, all the kids lived in the harbor, One day I'm going to buy a house here.

1:45:59 And he goes, dude, that is crazy shit. But it's just an opportunity. Yeah, crime is very, very, the little town I live in, or not town, little area that I live in, it's really nice. HPPD does an amazing job now of just making sure it's very safe. So to you, it's also I got it. It was the first tattoos I ever got. This one was in WWE. Because you'll be more successful

1:48:12 I just never forgot where I came from. That's me. I mean, there's places in the United States that's really hard. There's a beach. I appreciate you doing what you've done. Tito Ortiz, bitches. Yeah, I've got a whole new life. some bionic parts. Let me know. Punishment Training Center. Tuesdays and Thursdays. They hooked us up with them. And we're supporting them because they support fighters. Yeah, what's up, Alienware we've been using these computers here for a couple months now. They hooked us up with them and we're supporting them because they

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