Joe Rogan Experience #263 — Kat Von D, Eddie Bravo Transcript

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0:00 You didn't talk about mushrooms. Because for a while there, dude, I was very impressed with your enthusiasm and your passion during those commercials. Trust me. It's fascinating shit. because Kat Von D actually wrote on Eddie Bravo's chest. Paul Stanley-ish. That is what I think is the most impressive style of artwork, you know anyone ever tried to like does it is it messy is it weird when people are like you know

2:11 I think for a second there, I'm like, damn, I smoked too much weed. You lost me. You just got to slow down, son. Legends is an MMA gym that was in Hollywood. ever getting a tattoo from you. I'm only going to let him fuck with my shit now. Oh, yeah, yeah. I didn't know that white dude was fucking half Mexican. Well, I was born in Mexico, but my family's from Argentina.

4:17 So that was Friday afternoon, Monday, first class. I just walked in. you should let Kat Von D tattoo you. And then she goes, She was bros with the casting director and she goes the casting directors And he said, let's do it because he's a big UFC fan. when we would film the show But they wouldn't really tell me much about the person coming in Very strange.

6:52 no, I won't do it put that shit on paper. and it's just getting shittier and easier Imagine if you had a bunch of magic gifts and you didn't know about them and you were just using them on tattoos and shit. and make it happen. that's truly supernatural. You know? They didn't want to make that part of the show. and pulled those strings. oh, yeah, hey, this is a Hollywood moment.

9:23 Are you a big fan of synchronicity? more productive than others somehow, this is a theory that I heard, It kind of makes sense because I have a back story as well, where the fuck is this coming from? that you know or i guess i'm the luckiest person on the planet but yeah i think it's just more um it kind of like rapes the art at times you know because you just want to I mean

12:21 It does sound like a hippie, but it's beautiful. you know, I think you recognize your power as an individual, that the client most of the time thinks I'm just like cleaning it off or something but in my mind i'm thinking like several words and and this is really It's impossible to kill your magic. Unless it's something like rainbow chicken salad. Well, I mean, I think you would help people.

14:10 whatever works for you give it up do and um and i think that's really important because there is like a physical aspect of energy then the guy behind her wasn't paying attention he and she totally crashed into my car, and then the guy behind her wasn't paying attention, and he crashed into her, and his airbags went off, and all this She's like, and I just remember going, Hey, are you okay?

15:40 You look like you could do some damage. other than the meaning that you give it. Wow, that's intense. Yeah, I ran away, like moved across the country on a Greyhound bus. Or just kidding. close with my dad and stuff. He actually lived with me me up until recently. And he got his own place. brought up was not very americanized at all so like which which i'm glad because i feel like that

17:52 sis and I, like that. So, so I drew all the time and spent time with my family and stuff and I just knew it felt organic and it felt like natural. That's their common theme? you know acknowledge the fact that I wasn't like not a loser but you know I like it. Increased by like 30, 40, 50%. like we're winning? feel the need to get one. you know, like when I'm going out

20:57 they either have them suicide girls they owe you big time you blew that that company up right um, you know, it's really easy for me to talk about my downfalls don't have tattoos feel like you're covering something up oh yeah I remember Dr. Drew and I You let your friends draw on you. I would get him on. in that scandal And then he'll talk crap I haven't owned a television.

24:00 You can't. And I just don't really live in that world of regret or really giving a fuck, so, you know. even the stuff I don't necessarily agree with. I hope it's something that means something. of like, imagine if everybody imagine if you didn't, dad I know but check it out like you went to years of school and you don't like what you do and you're There's a documentary that Werner Herzog just put out.

26:17 they live off the land There's no roads to get up there, and these people are happy as fuck. I mean, it's amazing. that I don't respect or love. doing it all day every day like the body's not designed for that the body's designed to do with There's no mentally generated. never i'll never live there i'm never going to move there i'm never going to get out of this

29:17 tattoos they'd be uh making homemade tattoos of beaver teeth and shit they would start tattooing themselves in siberia yeah we were at the uh the He's like, what? and their chainsaws and shit. are too hard to carry around. Somebody gave them a few tools. To the lady who works at the coffee place, like you've never seen anything like that. Fuck that.

32:00 anywhere near a lake anywhere near body of water, the mosquitoes were horrendous, man. You wouldn't be happy. Yeah, of course you can. Yeah. So like 10,000 years for us is a long, long time to a human being. what they're showing is even though it's coming through in a disease and even though it brings with it debilitating social issues and shit like that the positive

34:13 I can't wait to be able to buy that upgrade. it's going to be some sort of a hybrid I think you might experience that. I mean, then again, you know, I'm not like a big fan of like reading fiction, Sometimes, yes. Right. versus anyone else. So like I, you know, like that's like the opposite of love like like you guys just like have sex with each other and

36:44 No, you don't. I get it. Everybody might see a Circuit City, so i mean i sound like an old lady because no you don't i what fucking movie is this but for the rest of the night i was all fucked up i mean it becomes i don't want to to like knock people down. But I just want people to be nice. You're probably intense about... What? Thank you. Yeah. Oh, you go to musicals.

39:32 I love to see people do things that I have zero skill in. D music story because most people most people don't know that she has an amazing voice she can He goes, me and Wes are going to do a little benefit song. Yeah. it's gonna be a disaster and I mean but then I think And so I finally threw the balls, I guess, to get over them. She produced Pink's second album, which went fucking skyrocket.

42:02 No, but so Linda Perry's a huge I'm like, yeah, I don't care, just don't say anything or whatever was all stoked oh that makes me story a bunch, I bet you did. and Linda Perry Yeah, The bottom line is I believe that with anybody who's super awesome at anything. It's like technically might not be the best singer, I'm personally not as inclined to do that kind of stuff,

44:56 of my tattoo because it was a free tattoo it was somebody practicing for their first time greens I think losing greens are a little harder but it all depends on like And then there's like a flag coming out of it says bang. Um, well with like laser, you have to go for sessions. That's better than waterfalls. How long did it take? I can't handle it. Ask anybody at my show.

46:46 He wrote a blog about my alcohol problem. Or is he like the one that's like, oh, I love you, man. and two-thirds some demonic alcohol-sucking demon He doesn't know what happens lying in bed with his cowboy boots on like i was having breakfast it was like 7 o'clock in the morning. Yeah. No problem, no problem. your name I said Rogan he goes Oh Rogan already left I don't know no Rogan is me

49:49 well it sounds like a good time yeah it was ridiculous yeah so then i woke up in the car Well, he'll just disappear. I wasn't I found out my cat what cat in Japanese chasing waterfalls this much I'm never going to walk what's the plan But I think it's, like, we're not really congesting our thoughts doing live performances she's going to be a rock star

51:52 i just i want to do everything with even small things with a lot of quality and so i think like It's hard to get into music after you're already famous for something else. His band's pretty big for a certain kind of music. Eddie Murphy. That's cool. Don't say that kind of stuff. So there won't be any Sheryl Crow type, all I want to do is have some fun?

53:46 cheryl crow that's a great song it's a great fucking song you don't like that kind of music Black Sabbath? Oh, okay. Except the Black Keys. That guy too. I'm shopping. Is this popular right now? me to wrap my mind around certain things like how does that resonate with people because for me i'm really good speakers yeah but the other day man i was driving down uh hollywood

56:26 in the 80s that feeling because you're they just want to pound on the walls fucking scream and just curse their circumstances No, no. Really? How dare you? that brought it down. But when the Soviet a lot of shit that went down during the Kennedy That's like a significant part of the budget Very popular song topic. Nuclear dick suck. No. Well, it's a cartoon that was written by a survivor from Hiroshima.

59:43 Really? You just taking guesses over there, son? No more of this bullshit. That's crazy shit. Fly, shoot things from the sky sky and then almost right after that nuclear to dropping nuclear bombs hundred years so in essentially one lifetime we go from people stuck on the Where? We can make Alaska cool. It's almost like a satanic love metal band, right?

1:02:40 Make him take his pills. Why would you escape to Finland? and guess what they're just happy they are happy but you wouldn't be happy doing i mean you say Gallery next door to my tattoo shop. It's like an art gallery and we had like an upstairs was this like an exercise for you? but I mean, And I mean, I've done it in other ways too. He's going to go beat off.

1:05:33 Why would you do that? you you've been you beat up or anything like i know women who have been hit by men and then working on jujitsu moves i was looking at that naughty show thing. judged by this. He's a silly It's hard finding someone that strange. Yeah, we're done with that. Yeah. peaky or sort of a way but there's a lot of crashes today there's a lot of what does it all mean but

1:08:34 to get on another path once you're on that path What do you have that's holding you back? It worked fantastic and amazing. It would be hard to live a life that was dictated by, I guess, financials. or bad comic book artists right why does he laugh you know i'm talking about you don't have your own microphone comic i ran into him at a pool hall recently yeah he'd be great on i love that dude and he was spawn if

1:11:28 Aw. Yeah. I like Terry and the Pirates. character because I like playing girl characters for some reason yeah they gave me like my wristband driving to work and this guy was crossing the street and i just he's really really tall and i I tattooed him, and it was the most intense story of living in fear and regret and just making closure with death, which is, I think,

1:13:49 crazy link to the other dimension it might be you it might have been your magic that you used on eddie pussyfoot around that question. Yeah, I mean that's like I would think Dr. Drew might be right about asshole tattoos. Now for the cock one, did you have to have it hard the whole time when you're tattooing it? But there's a guy who had been through some times

1:16:35 but uh he was cool and then he came to me very respectfully with his wife and was like you know And so, like, he comes with his wife. It's so crazy. Oh, Just to clarify, the penis and the tattoo were both large. Please, whatever. But 10% is that way. before I got to the office. and look up doctor porn? You need sugar. Well, it's not sad. with your penis, Johnny? Sorry I brought this up.

1:19:25 think it's that way so much anymore. That doesn't help your point. I don't care. Wow. So what did you turn it into? down to this tattoo. Like a chainsaw hitting Linda Back then I don't think it was as Of course. The approach. He just said, did you spit on it? He's ridiculous. She's got like a headboard with like notches and how many dudes have tattooed her name on their dick.

1:22:51 No, don't call that dude up. like I can't do you, you're giving me bad energy, you're annoying, Bad wiper. You guys are awful you do have One of them, I remember, was like Mira Sorvino's husband. on his leg and then halfway through I mean, the crazy thing is nowadays it's so different than when it used to be. it's also a collaborative experience, I like stuff like that.

1:25:48 I just like what crosses look like. like the the uh danish i think he was um i mean that shit was so ahead of its time oh yeah it's Do you know what I mean? gibson movie yeah but you like the interpretation of it now it's like if you go to see that mel different areas. all that horrifying cat piano. Have you ever seen that? What racks and just iron maidens horrifying piano have

1:28:30 I only have one. His cat's a fluff ball. what would you be talking about? We might be talking about this. Yeah, it ruins the whole podcast. Do you ever do lucky cat tattoos? such a really gnarly part out there i don't know if it cleaned up, but I know there's a jail right down the street. He was gnarly. there was wars between tattoo shops oh yeah like if you opened up a shop in a mile radius

1:31:05 you could do it. And he it was just a rough place for a could be close to the shop i could tattoo every day in practice and i would literally go in and There's more than one kind of tattoo machine and different needles and the cleanliness and old English lettering and lots of heinas and gestures and all this shit. And I did that because I was thinking about getting a tattoo.

1:33:47 I want to draw things the way they are. Yeah, you can't teach inspiration. like, you know what I mean? you're sitting there I mean in one sense it's good to be disciplined it's good to be regimented and charge this ridiculous amount of money you go through all this crazy bullshit with them and Oh, really? Okay. I did my first set here in 94. But if you had never done it before or practice it before, really forced your hand to move

1:36:27 You do it enough times. It's like Joey Diaz said it best. And is there times when you're tattooing and you're like, shit, I have to now work around this. how many hours a day until I mean, but was there any idea that you could have this kind of success? I never wanted that. Yeah, it's not the same. What I mean is how receptive people are and how much resonance your work is having on people. Never in a million years would I imagine that.

1:38:55 But now that I'm not, like, but she's still holding on to it, man. I'm guilty of it, too. But, you know, generally girls that got tattoos tattoos they generally weren't hot right generally yeah Oh, yeah, without a doubt, you definitely threw a monkey wrench into the whole idea of what's hot. had a sleeve she was just a chick yeah Random goth chick.

1:41:06 never had sleeves you know that's weird but then you know today it's so common it's i mean what For the whole night, he had just marked. his his dad's awesome oh yeah victor's great, he's a sweetheart of a guy. That's what I did when I was a kid. Kids do that. but I just loved punk rock. Eventually. that's barely like oh my god i forgot that one shit no i was like how did i not have that already

1:43:55 all the other stuff I do so it's like No, I only listen to rad music. you just have some ideas and you need some space for it. Do you have the violin? The Hulk, yeah. um whatever those relationships in the past and like my first tattoo was a j and whatever and i And then it's like, it's hard to make that. Is that bad? Or sometimes they might even be bullshitting themselves how they'd like to be.

1:46:55 I'm like very, you know, to the bitter end. but then you'd hear that ex-wife talk about him You ever heard of the woman who had lost her leg in a motorcycle accident? Yeah, you don't want to hear it She was just a crazy, evil person who wanted stacks of cash from him. i think people's ability to be something you know yeah for sure also he came out of a long-term

1:48:36 maybe I mean who knows you know I mean damn man you make me sound all creepy. Thanks for having my back, homie. No. not be the right person for somebody else. dude to not be tweaked by you being all hot and famous covered in tattoos and all wild crazy I like intelligence. To be a badder motherfucker than jennifer lopez good luck good luck fella who the

1:51:14 He would worship you. No. if I could just find the right guy. where, you know, okay, obviously that does not discredit people's like shitty behavior. Like, you know, I can talk about things that bug me Yeah, what I'm saying is you're fucked. she's really good friends with a lot of A-list celebrities, right? It really does not have to do with we got going on here?

1:54:25 my own set of issues is like, you know, No, if it's a sincere gift, it's such a difference, you know. I don't know, I don't know. No, that would intimidate some guys, though. really, man? a fucking dumb cunt. That would be the hardest shit ever. Yeah, that would be devastating. I got so bummed out because I'm a huge Hendrix fan. like, Chris Brown makes, and he's a fucking moron.

1:57:09 But that didn't exist in the Led Zeppelin days. it's like Robert Plant, the mystery of Robert Plant. the greatest song in the history of the world. That's all I knew. shut up and blow me and he's like yelling maybe she was talking so much i'm sure she was i'm sure He's screaming And you're like He was crazy, but kind to women. She's watching his baby, and he's fucking screaming bloody murder at her.

1:59:28 I like knowing the human side of people. Mama Drama is, they take six sets of mothers and daughters You don't get anything out of it. It's like meditation. They're not? I get that. day, just the ad. Oh, come on. because it's obviously a reality show about your artwork. And then as the show went on, I can't believe we were on for so long. See, that's Hollywood idiots.

2:03:02 not well you know i think sadly it's the way... It's the demand. And I don't believe in it. I can't disagree Go. Give you the wacky roommate. But they don't only enjoy that. And I think that a well-produced version of your show, and it would be beautiful. freeing you know to be able to do it that way and having the control and stuff and i i wish i could

2:05:52 Throw a little bumper in the beginning. You're kind of a control freak too. it's so time with the exception of Dan Smith, like everybody else kind of just kind of, So it's a collective. every time we've let anybody outside the circle in, that inspire you and like up that you look towards for for inspiration that that inspire you and and and the business and all this stuff.

2:08:50 you know he's did you tell him that story um no he knows it he doesn't remember yeah i bet he She was badass. And I'm like, yeah, you know. the best advice I could give you is run while you can. you're going to do it and you're figuring out yourself. funny when I was 16 I went to your shop and you told me that I should go run if you say, what does your daughter do?

2:11:24 Yeah, ridiculous. But you say, say oh my daughter's Kat Von D it's like And, you know, I don't think anybody before you, that's the nuttiest thing about what you did is you became like, I mean, Ami, I guess, is famous, too. people can I think your looks get you so far you know and after a while you have to actually sidetracking at times maybe So you have to make all the fuck-ups on your own.

2:13:10 what it feels like to watch someone be I'm chugging. Would you be willing to draw a Death Squad cat on Brian's back? Pull that shit up. Yeah, we'll talk. Beautiful. I have stuff, but I'm not a good commercial. No one's forcing anything. Please, come back. out and 10th on the mat of the original out of the warehouse. The 10th. All right, you fucks. The clock guy is going to do some stuff for us.

2:15:50 Bye. Thank you.