Joe Rogan Experience #267 — Mac Danzig Transcript

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0:00 And Brian, anything more to say? we got Greg Fitzsimmons in the house, bitches. It's going to be awesome. Yeah, Death Squad show Friday. This is way better. The fucking setup of my house is ridiculous. Just set one in the corner. We had a good conversation. I was like, you emptied the trash But what happened with us was the second file was corrupt.

2:40 correct that so you think you're gonna add the 40 minutes to this one when you put it on it we Ghost that bitch. You told me about it last week. how do they smoke cigarettes is it like this we're going to be crazy look muhammad make a were standing up and screaming. you're a Lynch fan right? That's what's up, man. the ability to make the viewer, to evoke emotion in the viewer,

5:49 But there's humor involved in it, too. what the fuck? Who is this? And, that played in Mulholland Drive. An experience. I don't even try to figure it out. Give in to the lynch. he's seen something man yeah you ain't pulling that out of your ass that shit was too real at least from a creative standpoint. Yeah, man. But, like, I don't know. Fuck you.

9:33 Christian Slater movie. terrible but yeah um the true romance the movie the finished product was a fucking work of art. Yeah. That's a badass fucking movie. Cuffs? that and so that was just one of the things where it's like well like you're kind of starting to I think that was when I was starting He's sitting there with Be Real from Cypress Hill. oh my god that's so hilarious oh that's i love these fucking things internet memes man

13:11 how is she the friday girl friday no no no no this is some girl where like what happened was And so people just were just tearing her apart. Yeah, and he's totally talking out of his ass. playing field yeah no totally that's why it's so interesting yeah it's fascinating because that's Trying to trick me. Can you imagine if we know this guy, the original guy? Can you imagine ring he's like tugging his asshole open can you imagine if we

16:09 I was like, oh, I swore. But I had to do regular radio today. that are on radio everybody's under the gun you got to be real careful what the fuck you say yeah that's a very prestigious it's the experience he was 16 he's one of like the like in the gym one of the best prodigies in the world i mean yourself and keep moving forward and i was on there as soon as i got in there was all these guys

19:33 Like, I'm very serious about this. like you know like the marketing of the fight the preparation of the fight and the actual act, the art of doing it live in a spontaneous way. But that's a heavy load to bear, to say all this stuff. ass off listening to him and he's really good at it he's the best at it he's amazing but it's like you know do you really want to do that when you have to step in there and be 100 real

22:09 morale break down especially with the way matt hughes was training these guys and and they just I see them and I'm like, dude, don't talk to me like I'm your friend. You'd already fought Sakurai in Japan. um, alpha male type of, I'm taking out all of you guys. Yeah, I was like 27, I think, when I was on the show. But I just remember being so stupid.

25:09 It's so different than when I was 21. but but you know of course i could and i did i think i uh i voted for somebody who lost i don't They do, but I still think there's... i was 16 or 17. Yeah, the idea that kids are more street smart or more worldly in the days gone past, like a really highly discussed topic of child molesting because it wasn't like you went out

27:55 You know what I mean? went over, you know, like to his house to try to find him and he wasn't there. And I had a scooter And he had reddish hair, like a little light red beard. oh wow like you're like and i hurried up and i was just like ah i didn't even say anything i was like Like, what the fuck? Fear is not a factor for me, Joe. And the guy goes, I have a lot of monster books in my car.

31:01 And I'm walking out the door with him. Wow. I don't know what he's willing to do to not go to jail again. Yeah, this one's live. And, and man, like she's the, like he was saying that, that he struggles with this as a oh, we have to live without fear. that you know they're they're stuck in the same modality in the same way of thinking it's like spiraling into a different path.

35:33 kind of like a social experiment in a way like they the teachers were very favorable to these in kindergarten, which is a completely different structure of learning. And we understood you know, they try to keep everybody in line and control and understand why they have to do that. But like the school that we went to was like, I think it was like 88% black or something

38:01 and i was watching it happen so I would resort to you So the best thing to hope for is being ignored. You do look for role models and you look for people to set an example of of what to do to And then it was just like a downward spiral from there. forward with academics You can't have regret for taking a pursuit and enjoying the path. you're reading you can get a fucking fantastic education without actually having to go somewhere

42:00 And I had many bad times throughout my entire career. and it's just – I mean, he's not doing it. and find it on my own, just like you said, And if you really just want the knowledge just to have it, I think you've got to just appreciate the now. and it's time to pull it together. it was being regretful or you don't. I mean, these people, I respect them and I like them.

45:32 But I feel like these guys that are able to... And then they go and they train. Like, that's cool. I was like well situation. And we're just, I'm going to have the best training partners and I'm going to work my And all the fun got taken out of it. For a while, he was just a wrestler, and you could catch him in submissions the inside of that place again i know i didn't i and then i would just immerse myself in in going to remote places and doing photography and like really experiencing nature

49:17 It no longer became the creative, fun thing that I love doing. You know what I mean? and be mean about it you know i mean they weren't like that you know like really like it wasn't like was five or something but he's been training at a high level like hard high level workouts and he and, and, uh, man, just, just go out there and, and, uh, you know, learn again, learn,

52:36 i think we were talking about that before that's why it's so interesting to watch the art of mixed and he's amazing at it. you see such a difference i mean look at him after the anderson silva fight yeah you know the way he Because Chael would sit in front of his computer like a fucking maniac for 10 hours coming up with the right shit to say, that the internet had at the time

54:42 take a boxer and say Are boxing historians not the worst? with Roy Jones' physically capable of than the then Roberto Duran, even when he fought at 147, he was just going up there to fight Sugar Ray Leonard playing the outside slip on the outside game with the guy who's who's got a reach and a guy who in this humbling, no-moss fight. Something messed with him at that moment.

58:05 and having a Foreman grill, all that stuff, he's still, it was like trivia. just being like i was i was so distraught when i saw that i was like this has got to be fixed like goes up to to heavyweight and they're those dudes are big man those dudes are really big those Those dudes are badasses, and they're very good. And they really destroyed themselves watching what happened to all these guys like Joe Lewis and and LaMotta and

1:01:19 Yeah, they are excellent. on stage that that if if you ever google that riddick Bowe Larry Donald Larry yeah this was a punch him If you watch it in slow motion, there's a second where Larry Donald's chin just snaps, Riddick Bo, Larry Donald press conference. why you see like like all these little scuffles and all this stuff going on. Oh, my God. See if you find anything riddick bow today

1:04:39 Yeah, this is when he was okay. I missed them. Yeah, he was one of my favorites. He was going to do MMA for a while. know, anything, how are you going to beat him If you look at the second one down, it's an actual interview where he's talking. And I think that was the difference. myself as well and i think a lot of of uh the prevention of that can happen in the gym and

1:07:40 but that is not the way to have longevity. is a very real thing. The battery that guys take inside the gym is uh It's fucking terrifying. the helmet protects your skin it protects your skull. Your skull won't crack with the helmet. That's what You know what I mean? And you know when you're taking punishment, If there's great, great trainers out there that understand that

1:11:59 health. I mean, there can be. I don't want to say that there isn't for sure. But if there is anyone, they're up and coming. as far as the financial aspect goes, I want to be there for them all the time. would bring. I mean, you have more than 20 MMA fights. How many MMA fights do you have? I mean, if you count the fights on the show, too, I think I have like 35 or something like

1:14:10 between fights just due to injuries and just taking time off to reflect and things like that i i was I studied a lot. And you obviously have a passion for the development of other fighters as well. Yeah. For the folks who don't know, Rico Ciapparelli was one of the Yeah, yeah. and erickson erickson had already left on good terms and couture and henderson you know were

1:17:52 He's almost like a prophet. not been the best way but like you know he he had to distance himself from it and now i'm just Maybe something people can tattoo on their body. They tried to do a good thing. Oh, for sure. You're not throwing out my dragon jeans. And then these strange, like we're bringing back Like spray tans, faux hawks, and then these flare bootcut bell-bottom-ish pants that have the same distressed look about them.

1:21:38 tight jeans but sag them and it's that's the worst style ever. Cause it's like, if you got some big It's the oddest thing in the world. It doesn't seem... There's not like an example that I can look back and say, well, that guy was There's my dragon jeans. Do we have... You know, like you made up going to a No, they like to keep it dirty and fucked up.

1:24:55 sweatpants like he was in the sopranos all the time remember he went to that phase if you remember One of the most amazing people in that subculture that we've've ever seen he's he's an amazing guy he's an artist and everything but he was wearing cargo pants i remember in this blind video is it blind skateboards anyway um I mean, I thought like the faux hawk especially is – and I was i was just talking to this this girl that i'm friends

1:26:40 the faux hawk circa 1987 or 86. And smushed my hair up and i was like He goes, you're doing it wrong. that and they'd be like oh what what what's the big deal and i'm just like well okay there really It's a ridiculous body part anyway no you're being I know a lot of black people. Oh, wow. Didn't he do something awkward before the Kat Von D thing? Talking about coming on it.

1:29:42 That's what I was a little worried about. what do you think of when you think of a vegan? So the punchlines like that just come out of you. I stabbed that little nigga. of the stereotype like it would have to, human expression. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, or shouldn't have happened. You're trapped. That's the worst thing. Yeah, yeah. But his whole act was just saying the most preposterous, mean shit.

1:32:38 always went on yeah and he always went on late they always put holtzman on late so it was like we have, Why does everything have to be so literal? But would you come to a, It's, about coming on tattoos of babies and that was his move you know you gotta understand he doesn't that's not what he really was talking to you about Let it go! I don't know if you're going to do the same routine, you know,

1:35:30 Do you seriously monitor that? Yeah. has already been done there's nothing that i can do about it from this point forward. And yeah, it's like bad days are going to happen, other and you can't be hurting your partners either i used to beat the crap out of my training and I'm going to win the sparring session. And then like, that's what I'm trying to do. And I'm

1:38:28 Every day was war. hit each other while not getting hit and like day in and day out then you start to i started to loathe I don't want to think about fighting. And it was just me trying to deal with my personal life and Shane Carwin. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. dollars, but you got to expect that, especially with the heavyweights, you got to expect guys

1:41:35 you're so careful about your diet it's very funny uh yeah man i feel like he's one of those guys he was punching him in the back of the head he might have won that fight on a tko right there because if you don't really want to do this, through the fucking air he's a he's a freak yeah no i i think like he was one of the few people and got kicked repeatedly in the body.

1:43:57 You know, a Brock Lesnar career could be an enormous, enormous career. Yeah. And by the way, if he hits you once, your leg's not the same ever again. Overeem is like an experiment, you know? Hey, listen, man. i i'm tired of this bullshit naive act that these fighters pull well i was taking the supplement I don't know what they're talking about. It's like these guys would lie to their own mother about it.

1:47:26 This is a one-time thing. I mean, just one thing to clarify. And he's about as big of an expert on the subject as you can get. Now, how are they on them all the time, and then they pass tests? And it's still very random, you know what I what i mean like i wish they would just test everybody why like instead of And that's what the commission's doing. That's the way I look at it. And it's like, test everybody.

1:51:18 This is about their journey, trying to better themselves in the art with their technique and their training it would make him stronger, he doesn't ever want to think that there's no way he could other people about it certainly don't name names it's it's their you know prerogative they can play personal legacy even if no one ever knew How did that set in with your life?

1:53:45 that's why I'm not like I was like I had nothing to lose pull off what they did when they were on the juice what did you think of when you is like high and gracy versus that Ichigawa or whatever. would look like that was that remember that guy jimmy ambrys yeah yeah I would look like that. Remember that guy, Jimmy Ambriz? Yes. You ever heard of him?

1:56:14 Yeah, yeah. And he's like 300 pounds of solid muscle. And that guy literally could not do it because he's in constant bench press mode. I think he's a black belt in jiu-jitsu. I've gone off on a long tangent, tommy spear is a big fella yeah yeah yeah he was he was big yeah and but but i knew like just from You could die from that, dude. Yeah, you could die from that.

1:58:49 I mean, this is a guy whose only vegetable experience is like corn on a plate Did they hook your diet up while you're in the house? like on point and and that was one of the things i established from the beginning like i was worried Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. we had two different weight classes, can eat whatever you want you can order the same stuff that i order or you can eat your own food

2:01:54 It was just, there was an issue about it. 2004. I was like, I just don't want to mess with red meat and pork. to the point where there would be so much pressure that my eardrum would inevitably puncture. You can't, you can't, everything is spinning all the time. And you try to focus on different spots in the room, like the corner of a door or anything, just to force your brain to remind your

2:03:58 be darting back and forth because your equilibrium is so messed up. like if you drink like a glass of milk feel like there's like a lot of phlegm yeah well i developed And he was like, if you have problems with your sinuses or ear infections, eliminate milk and all dairy products. And also, like, I like chicken, you know what I mean? I like the salty, greasy stuff. I like the

2:06:39 too. It's, I don't think, I think we're made, we're omnivores. We're made to be able to either eat meat or vegetables, you know, and plants, nuts and everything, or a combination of both. respect what I killed, much like I feel my soul tells me that, much like the way that a lot of or not you like animals or think that they have like the same, you know, abilities to, to reason

2:09:04 never approach but I'm on Twitter, And it's something that should be treated seriously, but they get so frustrated and then club and like you know like we're all we've all got a name for it and you have to follow these If they have questions, I answer them. And the nutrition thing and like what's going on in the world with diet Some people are. are really good people.

2:12:36 it's a moral high ground thing as well. Yeah. Lead by example. It's like anything else. repent for my sins and everything is hipster genes people people don't understand like i i ate out hypocrisies but i don't i live by the set of rules that I've picked because I feel that it's right. enhancing drugs or to be a part of you you're doing it because of your principles right we

2:15:41 know like like build build off what you're doing and i we won't don't need to And I came to that through weakness. I'm not doing it for my opponent and I'm not doing it for the sport. and all that stuff is going to eventually be manipulated. like what you're talking about, the public, for the most part, seems like they start doing it, I think. You know what I mean? It all depends on – and right now the public, for the most part,

2:18:45 To me, it's a weird thing because this is a mere blip in human development. we've been able to do and manipulate the human body when you watch like ray kurzweil um the And it's going to be really strange when they start figuring out a way If it can create entertainment for the people paying for it, as cheating in mma it's as simple as like we're going to transcend the boundaries of our biological

2:21:17 mutations that happen you know like like on a like on a hormone level or a cellular level within people. but, like, I feel like that's just what we're kind of rolling into, Yeah, and it's also the lack of discipline, that moves ground very easily? Really, like all these things that we're using, um i personally feel like more people should should get in touch with the actual earth which

2:24:17 Yeah, yeah. gotta take you gotta be really respectful of nature you gotta really understand that there's and trying to live with the actual animals. I mean, look at it this way. wild it's going to be all right unless it gets hit by a car killed up by a person it knows what Building a battlefield. you'd have to to take a step away from that and that seems maybe it's just a like a romantic idea

2:27:58 about doing your own podcast dude i have yeah why don't you do that yeah i want to i just don't have You can do it. and uh get to know you but i think you're you're in an admiral you're an admirable example for They're empowering. mac you can get him on twitter it's mac danzig mma whoever you are you dirty bitch that has Did I mention anybody not? who's going to lay it down and let you know what the fuck was really going on in miami in the 70s joe rogan the 70s very very

2:31:51 and go to Death Squad. Thank you.