Joe Rogan Experience #280 — Philip Coppens Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. And I got into this subject through Graham Hancock, who I'm sure you're familiar with his work, The Fingerprints of the Gods. And we're allowed to believe that for 30,000 years of that existence, we did nothing. And if this was true, early indications were that writing was thousands of years older than everybody had been writing about.

2:15 And they pretended that he was thrown in jail for fraud. this is a complete thing which they don't have to look into anymore because they have labeled it a fraud. For the most part, they are the most part they are but there are to see a guy who's supposed to be the man out there at the forefront of knowledge when it comes Oh, we found some place where everybody got killed by mud.

4:52 You're supposed to know or have any evidence whatsoever uncontested, 800 years older. For the last 30 years, they haven't published these findings as you're pointing out when Robert Shok and everybody else comes to the Sphinx and say, when you're talking about the time, the construction, the Sphinx, No, you don't. And you need to take this into consideration.

7:02 that doesn't work anymore. Fairly sophisticated wiped out. People are doing nuclear tests. and trying to figure out how to improve things and then it's this exponential process in The most staggering thing is how far we've come in 100 years. and all of a sudden it's civilization. Great empires fall. And it is just ugh. sort of cognitive denial it's very strange it's very strange that it's like it's it's it's like

10:58 That shit's ridiculous. which basically is a guy shooting a film of Kennedy, as well and the interval is less than again to go into comely's back kind of like keeps traveling up a bit goes down again into his wrist Wholesale, yeah. So the idea is that this fucking bullet came out of this dude's body in perfect form. I've never heard anybody say this,

13:48 I mean, I wonder how many actual shots went into his body. Everybody knows that. And, you know, that is 50 years ago. cell phones and fucking space travel and airplanes. For sure, there could be UFOs around us all the time that we can't see who knows what the fuck is up there that we can't see. just added a little more alien yeah a little more chimp to like my people the italians so like

17:10 some kind of energy cloud in front of them which they can direct with thought and can do stuff with If they can get consciousness to exist inside of a computer, it's a child i apologize for mr copen she's a fucking serious author here dude It's got phenomenal ratings, and it's got an attraction from 5 to 95. They can still get away with that. and it's definitely something which is happening in America

20:35 Intellectual wealth is, look, you don't really have to have any sort of formal education, and you could educate yourself just by reading the internet you literally any subject Like, no, that's not why. and they're aliens would happen if it proved it was proven to be real but i don't i don't think it would be good Then there are those who say that was exaggerated, that it was really isolated,

22:47 Maybe everything about UFO cover-up has happened because they were ugly Hot Aliens in Space. whether it's they're not living the life they want to live, And once that framework is in place, and I think this is tying it back to the academic professors, is one where I've had the conversation with people If you've never read the zacharias hitchens scenario is that they, these aliens, had ruined their

26:02 So it's really kind of interesting. back in the 1970s. he began to kind of like push for the DNA analysis. He wanted to do some DNA testing, We're so much different than all the rest of them. chimps are the baddest smartest motherfuckers the closest to us but look at them like oh they're I've read all these different theories of why the human brain size doubled over a period

28:18 genetic manipulation the ones who were involved with Roswell. he's not questioning whether what he sees on television about Battlestar Galactica could be possibly real or anything of the science fiction thing. Yeah, the Catholic one, that's where I started out when I was a little kid. How many people have to live these horrible, guilt-laden lives because of that wacky-ass fucking religion?

31:05 they don't care. the most important part is that they're baptized so that they can possibly come back or go to heaven. That's the one. I accept you into my heart. than the Zacharias Hitchin tale of humanity. Yeah, if you look at if they came here 8,000 years but a fucking spaceship? Brian, these are not good. It is It's like, And those guys were all talking about people that lived before then.

35:01 that they go back 25,000 years ago you hear the same story of the Hopis, Well, they themselves say they weren't the cradle of civilization. he says, you know, this is history. jump on a boat, go to Egypt, hope that they can get confronted with evidence which shows that And all of that is kind of like factual. it's history. Well, that was a literary device. He invented the literary device. He was very upset

38:07 We know that there was ice above things like Great Britain, It's what we have found. Why did they do that? Why did they build like that? doing but yeah you know like a motto with his water um and memory and all of that stuff it's And that seems to be a tradition which existed for thousands of years, to take this path somehow that this water was important.

40:46 She will sometimes go into the shower and come back and say, We wore the same clothes to look at that as well like what when when you're dealing with people that didn't have a gas and oil based society so we have to look at we do. And this is to some extent also visible, I think, in the work which Jeremy Narby is trying the end result will be something which will help you with this. It's knowledge-based,

43:43 go fuck themselves they didn't even see us coming. And plastic can be made from plants. we can be made from plants it can be made from civilization as well um and i think you think the truth is somewhere in the middle. might be related to these guys thousands pretty much Europe unified before preserve this information from their ancestors. today so i don't buy that or rocks just weighed way less back then did you imagine that was the

46:41 Nobody knows. the holes which were found are 8,000 in this 3,000 BC framework, Well, that is circumstantial. it's like trying to date Baalbek or Stonehenge or whatever monument by by a Twix wrapper which Those are about 8 to 12, I think, yes. And to a large extent, Baalbek is like that as a whole. Where are you going to put the 35 extra? They play with some of these numbers.

50:49 ancient Romans did this. They clearly still. But if you put a big stone on top something happen with that wood, which would how Avri was built, why it was as to how Stonehenge was built, how Avery was built, We don't want you. Wow. uh you i'm sure you've seen take you 664 years to make the pyramid like that is that is that that's such a crazy accomplishment

53:49 identical to a natural rock. Now, there are certain differences. In limestone, for example, you know, geyser plateau 40 easily identifiable features in about these rocks which anybody who goes there he basically said he is an idiot. he has taken pretty much going to listen to what you're going to say. Instead, we're going to pretend that what you Because some scientists from MIT, it seems like they believe...

56:59 instead of actual pyramids, pyramid stones, rather. in the middle of a stone doesn't make any sense guide you around potential evidence because again there needs to be more research done. could have been highly difficult to position the blocks so that's that's why they can show you It sounds so stupid if you buy into it and believe it and bring it up at a dinner party.

59:31 that our ancestors were absolutely in communication with non-human intelligences. a statue or something in a temple, but we have hundreds, thousands of primitive cultures elsewhere who basically say they can able to sustain a presence. You know, in a number of occasions, it seems to be specifically in kind of like the, what I would say, the non-traditional societies, some of them which have escaped most attention, remote tribes in China and things like that.

1:02:17 But if you have or if you've done – Joe, did you see that new study about mushrooms? I'm not saying it right, but NN-Dimethyltryptamine is a part of human neurochemistry. Well, it is scary. I don't even know what that means. To folks who haven't had psychedelic experiences, the idea that a psychedelic experience could somehow be otherworldly intelligence.

1:04:42 or it's not like it fucking you know red lines your brain as to what's going on in that state, And it was the high level. at some point, relatively early on, little X's or little weird things on We're never going to look into these things. You have the fact that the ancient Atlanteans must have had She was the only one interested. Nobody else was. off their butt into the field

1:08:54 They have discovered that these people had a high lines, which just crisscross. They have basically been made by sweeping off a top layer of surface what we would describe as hang glider material and so they're beginning to find out that these people took to the skies, the sky before people are really beginning to say, oh, yeah, there is something to this

1:11:02 There is definitely evidence that there was some kind of hand gliding. Wow, that's crazy if they figured out some sort of rudimentary air flight. And so they began to test in the wind tunnels They tried to get them to look like aliens. probably not abuse in the school Just Google that and you'll see. It depends. And didn't Tutankhamen have a very elongated head himself?

1:14:31 the way as if he had more felons and I find it interesting that Obviously, he wasn't a teenager or an adult when he had it. but it does seem like there's people that are saying that the skull itself is the National Geographic saying that he was not murdered violently. and you all of a sudden hit this incredible treasure trove of artwork with this these people were living so much differently than anybody in europe yeah and i

1:18:04 and all of that gold is sitting at the bottom of the sea. People like Javier Sierra have written fiction books about them. Just imagine what he would have had. So they know that the medicine was not up to par you know but they basically didn't think they were aesthetically pleasing. which rivaled it. But that's nothing compared to the images. our world and the world of the gods that was their job and if they were unable to do that they were

1:21:58 It wasn't that they were simply inventing certain things. different than it is now but if you stopped and thought about it and if there was some helix dna that the ancient sumerian like i've had conversations with people that try to um They had them in the right order. It looks like our planets. on things like the solstices and the equinoxes. it again what's the the anticaterra device explain that thing because that's a mind fucking a half

1:25:24 thrown in some kind of constellations, that Derek Price wasn't 100% right, that they made this device, which basically, you know, So they go into ancient accounts and ancient Greek accounts But for the Greeks, that was apparently what they wanted. What do they believe it is? it's a representation of the solar system, but it has some errors in there. And to some extent,

1:28:42 before we have a completely accurate representation of what this device was because it's sort of corroded and mushed together it's And very slowly the academics are kind of going, So, folks, because I know people are scrambling right now to figure out, it looks like there's an I that's 2000 years old nope but what we do know about it is that, you know, again, our ancestors were more intelligent, were more clever than we standard give them credit for.

1:30:59 parts of Britain were under an ice sheet two miles thick. There are spots where people are around that were erased by miles of ice slowly Tutankhamen was an alien. What I am saying That, to me, is very weird. resemble the ancestors that's why we do it like you know to resemble the gods to resemble the ancestors that's and there are pyramids in the Mayan culture,

1:33:27 Now, the Egyptians could be older. And there is this kind of like uniform template, which basically says that our ancestors somehow East Bloc science on this. one in history, mind studies, one in business, and basically wanted was then attacked by You had the people who were in charge and geologists from Egypt were there. remember, they were discovered in 2005. first excavations happened in 2006. 2008

1:38:07 and Wikipedia should not adhere to these things. They have done pretty much more excavations and 25 yards in another direction. They have dug up elsewhere. hey, I've hit this patch. yes i mean they keep going so the percentages go up yes it's so it's a slow process the like you would just draw the monkey like you would on a two-dimensional piece of paper.

1:41:38 The ancient Egyptians did it somewhat, but I think really it takes us to Gothic times and cathedral building the fuck is this so he starts digging around it and realizes what was it nine feet 19 feet tall investigations And the more research is going to happen there in Gobekli Tepe, They're limestone. Yeah, they're doing basically geophys. That's 2,000 years old.

1:44:54 that the more a culture advances the more easily its records are destroyed because in the beginning The ground will eat it and absorb it in a few years. It just shows you how reliant we are on technology to keep our food fresh, Some of the people that are the most detached from nature and from the concept of the fact that we are a part of an ecosystem and we're in fact on a planet.

1:47:01 back in and everybody pretends it never happens and just keeps on going on building houses on the side of hills with stilts have you seen those fucking things They built gigantically weird-shaped stones in odd shapes, We're stuck because we're so don't seem too willing to borrow from I think they're mostly outdated by the ability to get like they want to be replaced because they constantly keep doing better ones, which get more power out of them. Now, you wrote a rebuttal to the dude who made that video, which was the Chris White, who made the it was ancient aliens debunked.

1:49:48 And some of the sites he references, of the street and this guy says that they were buried well this guy's article is actually online He then goes on to basically say, but in my opinion, they were buried. Oh, you motherfucker, you got me. he comes up with this name and says like which the BBC made in 1980 or 81. which says something differently. he'll kind of say like, why is David Hatcher Childress talking about levitation

1:53:42 the exploration of the possibility. And this is what ancient aliens here I have found sorry one error somehow there's a vast conspiracy by us to misdirect him. You're totally right. what dorks are these guys they're dude they're they're doing they're gossiping about egyptologists because it was a part of a foundation wall, Yeah. in the past. And he basically said,

1:57:21 up, basically to Cuff, this creature came. best evidence as long as you don't and pretend that you have He's trying to prove a point. a possibility. What we have right now are astrobiologists who are working for NASA and there is probably no life anywhere but Earth if it's one out of a thousand, NASA is abandoning that. So NASA is doing science by press release.

2:02:38 It's kind of like, okay. You better go do your homework because that's bananas. It's too crazy. We need to be in on it. Let me do research. And they're basically kind of saying, no, this can't be true. I have found this. Let me do research. It was a Harvard professor who basically came up with this. But then all of a sudden you have scientists saying, no, we need to know who the owner

2:05:29 It's really fascinating that at the highest levels of intelligence, They can ruin your career. that immediately throws you into a certain were describing as when they saw a car driving through a red light and they were describing it. we know what the the consequences of human destruction and what we're doing to the planet And exactly. because of the introduction of these alkaloids and these chemicals into the mind.

2:08:43 We're not even using it as a part of the equation. It's something which your mind makes up Like, oh, this is like talking to a child like you're scared you need to you don't But also, like, the attitude of, like, you know you know like i don't need to do that exactly so silly i i know it's it's like you in the grips of war if you haven't been there?

2:11:04 The idea of the psychedelic experience being a gateway to some other form of consciousness or some other form of intelligence, that has to be considered. As did Terence McKenna. And then it came to him like wondering whether or not UFOs are possible different dimension. If there's aliens and they come here What is it, Australian? What is your accent?

2:13:05 but they still come back to hang out. Joy riding. Well, I know somebody has written a book about it, I think, more so than if I was an of terrestrial origins. and they probably want to pretend. into people's minds What do you think about Robert Lazar? you're not going to say, oh, Philips, a cross of St. Stephen or something like that, basically a crashed saucer which was being transported.

2:16:52 that there's a big cover-up, engineering the aircraft and you know and how they would take them out for test flights or they Well, I actually think I support him because most people just say he's a liar. this was alien and i'm more than willing to to give him the benefit of that i'm just saying on They just told him to back engineer it. Earth, I believe they believe

2:19:22 in this case are great. I mean there are some great he's got great material in there. hey, can I see what's in hangar you know 18 at behind the scenes and like the base commander spoke to gold which was trying to push they could not lose this. His grandfather was the chief of intelligence for Roswell. people on atomic missions of dropping nuclear bombs.

2:22:39 thousands of people by sentencing them to death, by briefing this officer where to drop an atomic bomb. That is really fascinating to me. Yeah, of course. And like, you know, you get to 8 like that. If we are monitored. Or they just have chocolate fever. The book is called The Lost Civilization Enigma. Do an Easter egg version of you. We need to talk to those people.

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