Joe Rogan Experience #293 — Cara Santa Maria Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Call your name. Yeah. Uh, well, is that worse for you? I don't know. It's like just don't drink them every day. And so it's like I got to have something. It's like this jungle store. massive hit with humans the other day and I asked for a coke and the guy I don't think Coke They're one of the The extraction plants like the extraction

3:48 Like very few labs can do research with those drugs. That's true police officers and Nobody does, do they? brain. Well, why do you think we know that? It's because we use cocaine to study everything. Inside joke, I guess. Marijuana is in such a weird position right now. Like, the scales are tipping. of your constituents because you're being honest.

6:53 Yeah. A guy who was born biracial, of a single mother, the whole deal, came up poor, worked hard, was very articulate. Didn't really have anything wrong with him. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. constituency to really put the heat on him. There's just too much money. I don't think they would let her talk. pencils in my eyes right now i've never done coke but i did do lidocaine yeah um wait you did

9:57 And apparently, people have died Jesus. Coke? Oh. Imagine a baby on Coke. He was injecting it into elderly patients. It's not just that, I think. And you get desensitized to it, I'm sure. All right. Yeah. you wouldn't know it well you know he would never like act like a tough guy no he's tough as fuck He's still, I mean, he's still pretty new in UFC, isn't he?

14:07 I mean, the Rich Franklin fight was incredible. like in the first round? anderson silva does almost every fight that's what i would prefer to see i think he wins and And I'm just so nervous for the fighters because it's just, It's getting prepared for the fights. injury, more in like football players and boxers and how it mimics ALS symptoms, you date on all your, you know, all your checkups and neurological checkups and stuff like that

17:04 And he's got a foundation where he really tries to educate people about it. You can't hit a guy as many times. But when you tighten up your fist and wrap it, you actually make it a better weapon. know like when you see a guy fight like you know everything about him you know you know what he's of have this like Roman Colosseum, you know, draw to it, which is just, I want to see two people fuck each other up. You know,

19:28 Absolutely. They're more like chatty angry. See, I'm smiling now, but if you actually show it to me, it's going to be really depressing. been in a fight i can't that's hard for me to empathize with. Well, look, I haven't been in one since I was a young boy myself. And she didn't know how to defend herself. And that's why it was such a vicious I mean, I know it sounds crazy, but I might rather get shot than to have to, you know, kill somebody to take somebody's life.

21:44 But I wonder if you're actually faced with that, if you would, if you would want to. never figure out how to feed themselves to take take care of themselves. Whereas if you look in the animal which is extreme and well thought out. Yeah, maybe not. I think the way you're looking at it is looking at it in the way of a person who just does not have it in them to harm a person.

23:59 I wonder if I had a child if that whole idea would change. yeah you know and my four-year-old is like a little human we have like little conversations I've had the but why conversation over and over and over again Where's the spot to live? have to be. I used to sell Bibles on it. fingers and they move and i can grab things and holy shit and um and yeah i remember one time a

27:04 And you document it and you sober up the next day. short and dyed it a lot it's a little like punk rocker raver chick and I remember taking a shower I never even smoked pot. the time to really study it i mean it sounds kind sounds kind of nuts. But that's what people do, is they find the newest compound. Because a lot um, We took it orally. He made you listen to that.

29:42 I want to try it so bad. Well, it's probably. Yeah, I don't think I would. this would burn. to be like, You just – you know what? Why couldn't I just swallow it? And I was like, oh, that's so crazy. and, uh, his doctor said, listen, it's just just you took it, you're going to be fine, These kids take it every day. Like uppers made me jittery. Did it seem like everything was like – like I tried to walk upstairs and I was like –

32:52 They're just walking around like, man, it's fun to be on ketamine. But the issue though for me was that like there's other guys that have taken it recreationally and have these crazy experiences on it. But I think they do it intermuscularly. Well, Lilly used to take – John Lilly, the guy who invented the isolation tank, he used Lily put him in the tank, and then Lily said,

34:03 and sends him to the fucking darkest What? What is happening right now? And with isolation tanks. Well, not only that, what the fuck they're saying. has been able to repeat those studies. But they're also doing echolocation, which is really cool. He actually since then passed away. granted because we have eyes or because we have ears, that organisms that are much kind of behind us

37:05 And seeing is a much more advanced way to navigate Oh, echolocation. So it was like I think the precursor to GHB. And we're all sitting there. heard the band Mr. Bungle? You'd love it. From people that think Fake No More is fucking gay! They don't get it. I got a tweet yesterday that was directed to both of us. I think it was 37. And I voted against the labeling initiative.

40:18 organisms, they are informed by my studies of the scientific literature. They're not informed by my party affiliation or, you know, by my political views. And you believe that genetically modified food is that? initiative. I think that it should be a federal initiative pesticides, they have all these strange antibiotic properties, and they worry about the long-term consequences of consuming these

42:16 Was that just a lie? But so, yeah, because lab animals. It's this natural versus unnatural, this kind of like whole foods is better because it's all natural. We would take, you know, the healthiest looking tomatoes and breed it only than 50,000 genes being swapped. Trust me, the companies that don't use genetically modified organisms in their food already label their packages as such because they use it as a marketing ploy.

44:56 I'd be interested to see it. Many scientists voted to label. And I'll sit on with them a lot just to kind of talk science with them. that they wouldn't have been able to get if they were just eating white rice. support that. That's my stance. Well, you know, it seems like you've thought this I know it's hard to do, it's hard to separate those things, but just because I voted no and,

48:16 I agree. Indian suicides due to Monsanto because it's fucking bizarre. a certain amount of money from them instead of raping them and taking it all. people who are probably very poor and probably could never raise enough money to levy a legitimate with how these drugs are being marketed. We're the only developed country in the world where we can and they throw the science out with the terrible company practices.

51:23 Yeah. And the woman's like, now that I take my COPD medicine, I can do everything. you're suffering, and you've talked to your doctor about how to fix this, you know, and so It's just, in this day and age, Proud to be an American because at least I know I'm free. And to see us do the same type of tactics, They'll release them on New Year's Eve. I mean, it's rough.

54:21 They don't have to let anybody know where you are. Like the hamster dance. But I'd rather – Marco Rubio is the senator from Florida who was interviewed by GQ recently and just kind cops as to what the law is. I talk about... Are you super political? and all this nonsense about the Big Bang Theory are lies from the pit of hell, is what he said publicly in front

56:55 I mean it's so scary. It's a fascinating thing because for whatever reason, it's become this sort of right-wing talking point. It's all pseudoscience. They can't hold on to these views anymore. Man never lived with dinosaurs. And he said earlier this year that atheists are trying to steal Christmas. Organize those fucking pagans. It's aggressive. It's that typical,

1:00:03 It's same thing with evolution. And then I take you back all the way to the beginning of time, It's like insane that anybody could believe that the earth is only 6,000 years old. And I know it's difficult, but he's just testing my faith. for a human being. Yeah. accept it. But there's aspects of religion and there's aspects of worship even. make harmony amongst men but then the crazy shit like, like at some point in time, someone has to like rewrite everything.

1:03:38 Yeah. No. Even patriotism. Have you not watched Ghost Hunters? We have one of those guys on the show. that is not a religious thing at all, but it gives you that feeling that you get from religion. I actually have a quote tattooed on my ribs down my left because it can't think. we are a way for the universe to know itself, for the cosmos to know itself.

1:06:14 He was a working scientist who made so many discoveries and who contributed so much to man's understanding of science. And he was very open about his appreciation for cannabis and that whole quest for information. Whoa. but it was this 14 DVD series on the the universe and it was one after another just They were detecting all these explosions and they thought that like Martians were shooting at each other.

1:08:57 can simulate the fundamental workings of our own universe right now we can only do it on a I see an Asian coming around the corner. Live your life like that just for a week. Well, he lives his life. That never worked. That shit doesn't work. Does that mean Michael Buble is going to pop up in my life all the time now? But see, the thing is, I get to leave here.

1:11:05 He is being an asshole right now. It's one of those things where- Hate for what? I don't hear it. these exact same self-correcting computer code embedded in the equations of string theory. I mean, that's what a lot of this kind of theoretical cosmology, this quantum level cosmology is about. But they're writing the math, you know? And they've been able to kind of map its signature.

1:14:27 Who's Googling? If you don't follow I fucking love science, they're amazing. So they're looking basically at the math of the, Maybe there's like a, you know, of how these particles interact with each other, then we can start to really understand why an atom yeah it's like anything about you know because it's so hard to measure these things. It's, it's really difficult to measure their speed and their position at the same time

1:17:30 So a big problem that quantum physicists have is trying to figure out how to fit Newtonian gravity into the equation so that they can get a grand unified theory of everything. So we have to come up with all these crazy rigs to be able to see things. It's not necessarily that you are looking at something or that human intention or visual, you know, your visual cortex is tuned in on something.

1:19:24 and you could no longer use a microscope, for example, to measure it don't interact with its intrinsic properties. But once you get down to things that are very, very small, and you could no longer use a because there's been so much malarkey But one segment that we talked about in between that I couldn't really work into a story, it bums me out because it's such great footage.

1:20:37 how we think and how our thoughts of them are fucking physicists. She's channeling some fucking alien. They're just two sides of the same coin. the idea that the brain is actually just an antenna yeah that tunes it all in and that's why brain activity. Like I'm, I'm a really hardcore materialist when, when it comes to that kind of The problem is the brain is so much more complicated.

1:24:33 And so when I do all of my science reporting and all of my science commenting, all the space stuff and all of the physics stuff, I'm not as good at. Really? Greg Fitzsimmons loves Eckhart Tolle. Oh, what's his name? But he's not trying to make money off of it. It makes me nervous. examples where positive thinking actually helped people. And there's just no good evidence that

1:27:52 Exactly, because you didn't think positively enough. it's like, I don't know. I think that's a bad precedent to set. a real thing. In some sense, karma is totally real because if you're a fucking nice person and you do goodwill all of the time, sometimes shitty things are going to happen to you. the universe was a weird concept and that maybe we're wrapped around that because of

1:29:59 speed of light and then comes back to Earth in 20 years and 500 years have passed or whatever Well, you could see. What if you can? You know, what's funny is I think that there's this huge disconnect in public opinion between, I wouldn't worry about it too much. predict earthquakes, by the way. We can't. a global government. And it's really fucking sad because it sets a terrible precedent.

1:33:30 I mean, it's like, how could someone make that decision if there's no evidence? Did they cause the earthquake? Like, what the fuck are you saying they wanted this to happen? Exactly. Did they cause the earthquake? Yeah, at least that's Italy. I'm like half Italian, half Puerto Rican. I mean, I don't know as much about it. Jesus! That's pretty cool.

1:35:24 I guess I should say within – I feel like within this century, within the last century I should say. I mean in a sense to the way that science was perceived in the 60s, to the excitement about NASA, to the excitement about the space race. It used to be cool. So they have to explain. So when people talk about, yeah, but I see God more as a – I'm like call it fucking something different because it confuses me every time you use the word God.

1:37:14 You've got to figure out a new – Yes. I mean just individual? a podcast. seems insurmountable. It's like, it's not going to stop. The idea of, the only thing that's going that we're going to fuck ourselves up. Go do some breeding um Shut it down. That's where I just checked out. This is an extremely risky endeavor. Yo. One of the guys died. It's crazy.

1:43:04 Jesus! I mean it's I was doing this I mean it was absolutely blowing my mind. Sun's part. But at night, it's like too cold to survive. I kept wanting to say to them, like, you're so fucking crazy. talk i mean do you ever entertain it whatsoever you know i was i was talking to the scientist So maybe they are right. Bublé. simulate the whole universe. So maybe the

1:46:29 We have no sexual organs because we figured out a way to reproduce through genetics. to people on facebook and nutty shit was still going on. No one knew the rules. This is the wild west of the internet age. When we were watching Rejected. I don't really believe, yeah. Yeah, but as far as like the way a human looks and the way a gorilla looks. That's, like, not our evolutionary lineage.

1:48:54 Is that we all become bulletproof. Yeah, you would need that. they're having they have a hard time feeling things and like real severe pain is like the One of the, And they actually made a documentary about the whole situation. yeah horses horses fuck them okay one of the happy guy and killed them but the So what does that say about us with all the tattoos?

1:51:10 that you have on your arm? That's dimethyltryptamine. We know our brain makes it. What is that, you bitch? That's amazing. Well if it's a chimpanzee it's an ape not a monkey thank you Yeah, I know, but I'm Let's see. Can we name them all? Us, Don't be racist. there's a bigfoot yeah she's convinced she She thinks there's a Bigfoot? Yeah, she's convinced. She said that

1:53:39 a gigantopithecus Where? Yeah, but isn't that under dispute whether or not we fuck them and whether or not we Did they fuck the girls or did the men fuck the females? cheek swab, send them your A study cast out. Here it is. Study cast out on human Neanderthal interbreeding theory. Cambridge going to do it but then i found like it was a subscription some kind of subscription a study

1:55:27 For sure we could. Where's the mermaids then? But if they're close enough, like a dog and a wolf can have sex and they'll have viable offspring. Well, maybe a few of them. Well, what fascinates me like really geek out like holy shit 10 000 13 000 years ago there was this little monkey man It saved us so much time, you motherfucker. Sam Kinison, who's in my opinion, at least at one point in time, he was the greatest comedian ever.

1:57:35 That's crazy. It was called Nyasosaurus perringtoni. basically when all the continents were one big supercontinent. Terror birds. Dinosaurs evolved to become birds. And it's this crazy ancient dinosaur of a bird. I feel like if you just – do you know any friends who have African gray parrots like as pets? Birds are just cameras for the simulation. And they're smart.

2:00:20 They're clever as fuck. So the helpful condition, they would feed the crows. Wow. That's pretty dope, by the way. Yeah, and they snowboard. Why are they so smart? I'm going to. Right. I'm not really cheating on my wife because it's not a real person. I wanted to ask you about Ambien because that's one of the stories that's on your website right now.

2:02:58 It's like saying Elvis. so many people take Ambien of ambien he's a sleep doctor oh what a tricky bitch he is what a fucking tricky web he weaves But we're completely triggered into them and addicted to them. And you go, okay. OxyContin is extremely addictive. We have to take the risk. We have to take the risk. They know that – but their lives are so destroyed by not sleeping

2:05:50 You know, there's always two sides of that coin. When I'm talking about ecstasy and acid and GHB and all these things that I've done, Yeah. I've never fucked with anything that's completely addictive. I've never tried heroin or meth or coke or any of the ones that are, I just saw too many people just lose everything. is that for somebody who actually does have

2:07:32 you can go to sleep at night because it's a downer i mean it's very easy to sleep on these drugs you I know what I'm like when I'm off of it. Have you tried any natural ways? My whole life I've been in therapy, and I've tried to work really hard to not have to take medication. intervention with talk therapy my entire life. I continue to do it. It wasn't enough for me,

2:10:20 pounds without some sort of like mental illness or without some sort of biochemical problem. And I think for mental illness, it's the same kind of thing. There are people who it's things that people do because they don't like to see excuses in themselves. So they try to squash them. in the video is like i'm so sick of people who will come into comment boards and be like oh

2:12:05 I'm like, you think anybody wants to have a fucking abortion? because this is the problem with neuroplasticity. brain are going to be reinforced in these depressive ways. have some sort of cognitive behavioral intervention so that you can learn The debate is that- You see some of these homeless people who is out on the streets. You see some my life.

2:15:26 counter to their health. So being able to get on the lithium, for example, to kind of tamp some of the manic behaviors like having unprotected sex or going out and binge drinking or whatever. But yeah, I mean, those people, they may need medical intervention first. For example, and I know that I'm in a room full of men and probably most of the people

2:16:42 I don't like the way that I feel, but I also don't want to just medicate that out of myself. And it kind of sucks. Like you kind of have this this fear, like, is this ever going to go away? All right. you go but do you want this no but would you want this no no what you need to do is you just need Now you're just talking crazy. feel like you don't think she's crazy

2:18:49 Oh, my God. Okay. You know why? I'm sorry, but all girls, it's part of being a girl is being a little crazy. in your whole life? I shouldn't speak in generalities. And it's not uncommon That's true. No. she would become more manly because there's so much It's really fucking crazy. they think that it gives them life force. It thinks that it knows, Joe Rogan is advocating drinking your

2:22:12 Greg Fitzsimmons, last night. A child – The kid bled to death. Put a baby to sleep to fix their dick. Yeah. She's smart, dude. Like three. No, no, no. who have more liberal parents no I mean like You're all circumcised here? Yeah, we've seen porn. It's nonsense. Yeah, that makes me really uncomfortable. How much shit do you take, like, if you do something like this, how much shit do you

2:24:54 internet show called the point which is um a young turk's spinoff show and it's like an hour long And it's one of the biggest minority groups out there. It's so funny when people are like, yeah, but thou shalt not kill. aspects to the idea of living your life in, I want to say a pious manner, or a spiritual manner, because that's really tainted too.

2:26:39 And it's possible that if everybody followed that, all get along. Whether it's religion, They need it with everything. and they have Verizon. Why are you attached Actually, the bonobo used to be called the pygmy chimpanzee, but we know that they're two separate species. Bonobos, when they're observed, they're just always having sex. They don't want to watch leopards kill gazelles either.

2:29:06 Why not? more about an animal's well-being. around staring out there's nothing to do but swing from this rope to that rope it's a very small area a minimal size at least with the intelligent animals i think they yeah and i think that new A lot of animal rights activists, which I would never call myself an animal rights activist, They don't always, which is dangerous.

2:31:49 They gave him the rage. That's what's really scary That's true. So there's got to be a connection here. It's because you've got to look out for predators. Yeah, they found this guy named Carl Amon. Bondo mystery ape. And the locals call them lion killers. There was a lot of really good science. They're not completely sure that it's not. at least a hundred pounds bigger than a regular chimp they had a shred some of them that are six

2:35:30 saying that they've been know what the fuck Survivor Man. in the middle of the night in his life. Wow. Aw, thanks for having me. I do love the Olive Garden. Listen, I'm so sorry that I sacrificed our friendship Onnit.com, Ting, everybody's dates. Your dates, But it's sold out, you dirty bitches. and they're cool have some respect I could talk nerdy to you if you want me to.

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