Joe Rogan Experience #337 — Justin Wren Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Actually, I head out to Vegas after really. I'm like, this guy's a fucking savage. you know, and I wanted my dreams, my everything. And then when I heard about the pygmies, I just I just went with a burden to find out what was going on. the planet. And, uh, heard about what he was doing, heard about, uh, what was happening with

3:20 children that are, is this the first time they're seeing a white man? To preface the video, this is actually not the pygmies, the video. It's actually the Bantu. But yeah, so that was brutal because on the UG also I posted a video or actually a thread about how I buried a one-and-a-half-year-old in the Congo. I mean, there's been types of it for hundreds of years, but

5:14 They get paid sometimes corn, sometimes bags of salt, sometimes bars of soap, like a bar of soap for two days of work. and having all this insane conflict going on That coltan, right? So, I mean, I support it even. But I had no clue what coltan was. What does it look like? And sometimes it has more of a coal, like charcoal kind of feature to it. And I don't even know what it is.

8:10 how much better it is to have an electric car that's another reason why we're in Afghanistan. the stuff. I wish I could meet that dude. He'd be happy to meet you, Just really, like, down to earth. Is that what you're doing now? We want to free these people Now, since I've been back here, it's been 120 slaves set free. Well, the pygmies in the democratic Republic of Congo, there's a few different, it's hard

11:00 men's height is four foot seven. So are they in any way like uh have you ever um tribes. And so that's one reason why I've met people, uh, that have been that their families, Yeah. 85 kilometers from there, there's a part of the Congo called commander. Um, they say it differently warlords and the whole system that uh that they've got going on down there. It's so bizarre to look at, you know,

14:05 And I have my grandpa, Jalewa, is his name, Jalewa. And it's all the kills that he has of certain types of antelope. And he gave me the, I think a tent made out of leaves. Yeah. Every night? Wow. First time I went to one of those tribes was I saw the chief and I was putting up my tent surfing at a concert. I haven't come across one pygmy in the remote locations that I've been to that I've ever.

16:56 And if a pygmy's had clothes, they've been a slave. live like hunters and gatherers because the animals just flee from all the trees falling so the there is it loggers is They'll buy up the land and they'll say, pygmies aren't good for this, and they'll kick them off the land. Yeah, I've heard from my family members in the pygmy tribe. Yeah. Do you speak their language?

18:51 and you learn pygmy and find out yeah well they don't have they don't have a rosetta stone have a part to play and, um, uh, and they just slap the water and it's, it comes out to beautiful Wow. No, Whenever they get like eight to ten in there, they get some intense songs. eat caterpillars i've eaten like i normally normally don't ask the different parts of it.

21:27 i remember that i remember the gate becomes the goat becomes evil remember that i never saw it Yeah, that's why my buddy started calling me the great white Sasquatch. To me, it's not attractive, but to the pygmy men, it's attractive. Good, perfect. The Maasai, they do their big gauges in their ears. The head warrior, you know, gave me my name, which is Mazungu Simba Maasai Maran.

23:46 just go out to be gangster a little a little bit of both really i think the younger guys go out the mane of the lion that it killed the mane of the lion that through the fire and make it really really strong strong. It's a hardwood anyway. And so that's the end that they use for either target practice or just the Warriors liked the balloons better than anything because we'd blow up those balloons and just tie them, throw them on the ground. And then the different Warriors would stock the

26:13 Oh, yeah. They always wear red because that way if they're ever wounded in battle So as the lion was biting him, homeboy jacked him with the spear. Yeah, I'm more of a dog guy. But the fucking cat, I have two cats, He hears them. Yep. Water buffalo. Like, I'm not. You've got to be a lion killer to be a warrior. like ground fighting did you show them some moves i did i did i wrestled two at the same time and

29:50 Man, no. So I'm like, I'm not going to hurt this guy. They're trying a couple different kinds of collar ties and trips. A white guy goes over there, teaches them how to wrestle, brings them to the state championship. Oh, yeah. You just said it. We're used to the mats. they just walk it off? so they're the soles of their feet actually almost look like the soles of shoes almost i mean not

32:35 The Cody. Everywhere. something. with me um he went to to take a dump behind a tree and he put his uh he put his back against the the this thing off. roads that are like wide that answer goddamn terrifying yeah they really are brian callan Wow. That's the black mamba. They'll drag it to where it's safe. because they aren't poisonous, So the fastest,

36:39 You've run into silverback gorillas in the wild? Yeah, the Maasai, not the pygmies, Yeah, and actually that black mamba that was up there, I heard them going nuts. didn't think it was a black mamba at all and so i was uh yeah i was getting out of my hut and then So they won't eat these even though it's a source of protein and they're probably hungry.

38:37 Huh. So crocodiles and hippos live in the same thing. I don't think hippos are concerned about anything. And so you hear that. Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't think that's it. And if they were, I guess they were talking about me. it's, I can't really say it eloquent like they do, but it's called, they say like it's basically hard for a fish to navigate through the rivers

41:55 Yeah, people tried. And then since then, they came in for the gold and and diamonds and now they're there for the coltan and you can go through whole uh colonial like uh like settlements open up around the campfire at night i would have to pretend sometimes to go to sleep um for the And then he gave me an egg It was the pygmy chiefs and the pygmy chief had saved that to give to me because he heard

44:46 That's got to be so strange for you to be around both of them, to be around the Bantu people. Because they believe them to be so low class. and they've always done this this is just well the pygmies used to never have to depend on the from the United States. I'm not really that educated, but, uh, but the Shalom university And the pygmies are more slave to the Bantu

46:59 but I see the sun, it's not raining on me. I mean, and I think last I heard, and I don't know that it's scientific. Because like they've just, it's barren. There must be a tremendous amount of money that they're making from those trees, though, no? charcoal was taller than she was. I mean, a pygmy woman is small. I don't know if you can pull up the one

49:45 Congo jungle because there's so much wood. better but still they've never been believed to be um fully human they've always thought of them That's a grown woman. So, uh, I have some other ones where she's smiling, but that, that's the one that shows her, And so they would trade sometimes like the wild plants that they would gather. Um, the animals started fleeing, uh, in the

52:59 these people feel about you taking off going to to America to let everybody know about them and then flying back again? uh, that would finally come up to me and touch me to make sure they don't go through They're like, we have no voice here. what a strange journey you're on man yeah and to be honest i wouldn't change it. I mean, especially with this video going viral

55:08 And the whole thing is that. And people are more likely to believe that there's more vulnerable situations. Oh, you seem very, very sincere. The only thing that really, I mean, I have a future wife. trips around the world and has gone and helped uh orphanages and in mexico and she kind of has a But some stats say 6.8 million Congolese in the last 10 years.

57:28 So you can't bring your woman to the Congo. So all this different stuff. Spring break? But if I can't get a year-long visa, I might have to come back. I mean, I've won my last three fights, It's very, very good coach, bro. He's one of the best guys I know as a person too. we're actually a depressed drunk drug addict, try to take my own life, all this different stuff.

1:00:28 and we're building that relationship back. A lot of guys get that. state were national champions there kenny monday and kendall cross and uh kenny monday fought mma And then it paused and he goes, you missed being my best man. out of my poor was coming liquor um they knew that i mean how would you train like that bro I was invited to my middle school crush's birthday party, and it was a costume party. I got the invitation. I'm uh, I was invited to my middle school crushes like a birthday party and, uh, and it

1:03:40 Oh, bro. Yeah. I mean, I left there. Oh, I are no cell phones. So I walked and I got to Dairy Queen. I lived in the country. So because i loved sports and i always played sports growing up um but this was multiple sports put in I started looking forward to the parties after the fight. needed the pills or i needed a drink or i never did one thing that was my that was a huge problem

1:06:33 They only tested the main events. Wow. Is that why you kept taking the pills? was after the Madsen fight, I lost a split decision again. So two back to back, I just, I bet a point. So I let my arm snap. And anyways, I probably took at least a month worth of the You're trying to fight it. uh, And whenever I went to do the hop, that's whenever all his weight came down on it

1:10:06 They moved it to where it's right here. That's zombie shit. Your body could reject it. And I go, yeah. 18, yeah. I mean, he's just gone. that the world has ever known. thank God that I didn't, I didn't kill somebody or a family or, God damn, Justin Randall's at a party. I'm driving. yeah so you know where summit county is then with like breckenridge and yeah um keystone

1:13:40 It is the jungle, but there's mountains that are so high that they're, I think, the only glaciers that you can find on the equator. Yeah. It's my buddy named Jeff Duncan. thank god that guy didn't find brian he'd be like i know no i'm not no no battle He's a roofer. pills, saw how I was living. And it looked like hoarders or just, just filthy. Um, and so she

1:16:33 the parties and now i was that maybe quote unquote modern day gladiator ultimate fighter mixed The very first thing said a because some of the guys that had it with me. And grudge is unique, man, because grudge is a family. that was the problem. And, uh, they voted me off and so man i was just i was empty i felt like me yeah i mean they're they're dangerous, man.

1:19:17 This is in Colorado. aboard it, man. I was taking the train. It's about Florida. filled they were filled with poor people that were just hooked on these goddamn pills and i think i And so I have an x-ray that they have. And then they put some more in me and I was out. I have a bulging disc now in my neck and uh it's amazing talking to how many guys talking to people like asking how many

1:22:17 So two were in Colorado. You know, hearing you, I don't want to be this guy that I'm now, Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I actually, I went, I ended up going on that, uh, And it was, they kind of donated this ranch to be for all walks of life, kind of all beliefs and for people to come there. I can fight for people. Like you have instruments in your music. And then I went there in this place, in this retreat, and I told the guy, bro, I don't need anything Christian, bro. I don't need

1:26:13 there's gotta be a Rolex. And you've been around the fake stuff. You've been around the Folexes. through except for to help me out of them. He didn't come down on me about any of them. He and love people. And if I can do those two things for me, that would change. It has changed my life. whether it's Hinduism, whether it's... What it really boils down to is love and

1:29:06 of barely been able to tune into this great frequency. Well, what is this? Well, knowing the of has this bad... thought, oh, you're just going there to make a bunch of converts. You should take them a sandwich of their choices that they make, just because my choice is to love them. And it doesn't hinge You're going to be educated. It's a beautiful story, man.

1:32:07 And let's do this again and tell me more things. But I do want to go back often. Yeah, start a Kickstarter. but there's hyphens in between fight, hyphen, for. Go there, folks, please. that's been picked up by him. So I'd love to be able to Skype with people, talk to people from the jungle of the Congo. 250,000. I think it's right there and it says what it does. And it's, it's some crazy stuff where,

1:35:40 self-sustainable way of life. It could have like a earthbag home technology where, have you where they get, and that's the thing. I don't want't want this this project i don't want the pygmies uh to be dependent on me like if i'm only there a year and i can only do a year's worth of Indiegogo.com. It's JustinTheViking on Twitter, right? Thank you very much, man.

1:37:31 Thanks to Hover.com. Go to Hover.com Really cool guy. of Jack Daniels with Mexican Thursday night. Alright, my friends, And I'm honored to have you on this podcast We're going to put people on Mars. Thanks.