Joe Rogan Experience #339 — Jacob Ward Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Man, I'm in. Yeah, Galaxy X3, Galaxy Note 4. I don't know. Yeah, but I don't have the confidence my ceo yeah yeah you need a guy writhing around angry yeah pissed off at coders because they got I was like the doer. It's a great thing. It's like we're at least five or ten years ahead. all this stuff, and why aren't we the same magazine?

3:13 Popular science actually demonized marijuana. you know like there's worse stuff racist caricature of a Japanese guy. Of course not. No options anywhere. You know, the amount of work, the amount of letter writing on letters to negotiate, you know, whether that guy's going to be a guest on Cronkite. especially to have enough of a fortune that you lasted through the 30s.

5:43 be your publicity guy. Everybody's white. And more people can listen to it than ever before. Everybody would have filmed it. They're going to know exactly what's going on. anybody who can do this gets a million dollars or whatever the prize is. And that's how robot cars first started out. You're looking at a computer, it looks at a photograph, and know exactly where you are, right?

8:59 Someday that'll be possible. It's all data, right? information of what's being shown in front of it, and be able to come back with a correct, you know, And I'm like, I'm not telling you, Google. with a lot of this retaining privacy rights the issue is being decided by people. change the world or are they just some schlub who backhanded his way up to the top and now he's reading your email?

12:10 But at the beginning of it, the guy who is running the show, the emcee or whatever, in military style, I don't know what an emcee is, but stands up, says hello, describes the artillery and said, but before I begin, I'd like everyone in the room to take a look at the emergency exits over to your left, and then there's Yeah, right. I believe in order and I believe in discipline, but I don't believe in other people controlling people.

13:19 It gets into weird areas when you don't know the motives of the people looking for the search. know in the the real world, people to behave themselves more and more, but only if But in order for that to happen you have sort of just through the internet, to do whatever they want online, and yet they decide to try to right wrongs. There's so many. You know, so much cool stuff to read because everyone can write.

16:41 We don't really know how to parse it yet. It's text messaging to anonymous people. There needs to be a system like that everywhere. of Twitter is different than mine. It's really These are people out there on the fringes They know how to raise solar power. Yeah, right. Get together and, you know, 70s. What was your dad? He still does today. What did your dad

18:53 He's tried to retire several times. Now, you guys have transferred onto the iPad. of problems. Popular Science is But it's got a really loyal following in every medium, basically. So, man, I'm working to make it as good as I can. We can do robots. We don't really have any idea how personality is built, you know. something I actually wanted to ask you about, which is sort of fear in general, the psychology,

21:57 afraid for a living. versus how a guy like me who's like, No, but if you did, you would. You know, if your life depended on it, if you were in some sort of a walking dead situation and you had to deal with fear, you would deal with it. There's no need to be afraid of violent altercations. in a day-to-day basis Like you start off slowly and like even stand-up comedy.

24:04 There was a big difference between how I felt when I was really prepared and how I felt if I took her out a few times to play it with us. But the question is, are those physical distinctions from her gifts from the womb, or is it from with the the the way that it uh is distinct you know can do amazing things like we're literally There's programs that do that.

26:52 monkeys or new monkeys, forgive me, but when they played again, they would use the signal basically from their normal abilities in that game. Then they started doing this zapping again about data and information, How nuts is that? boy genius uh kids this guy uh brilliant guy i mean aza raskin very smart dude and he was uh Right. You know, I mean, if a person is a clever street smart person

30:00 Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of really smart people You will excel in your field, but Oh, yeah. Shut up, hive mind. Maybe that'll be a new like hip thing, right? I'm addictive. to those and then i can get online and do the rest of my research but i find it's too easy to look at I know what it is. I'm thinking about just putting it in the fucking bookmark bar

32:54 Yeah. It really is awesome. And it's still rare enough that we're popular. Yeah, people found his clips on YouTube, and now he sells out the O2 Arena in London two nights in a row. Sure. Oh, is that true? Yeah, I saw people asking about that. transformed by this new generation of antipsychotics that they voluntarily went off them to go back to He goes and he begins to get this antipsychotic medication,

36:59 He's just a homeless guy. voluntarily went back to You know, just neon colors everywhere and fucking Russian agents hiding behind two-dimensional trees. I mean, do you... they changed their life for the better. switched that and got him to another one. barrier is Yeah. Right. Stuff is poison in terms of just the toxicology of it. Yeah, traveler's poisoning, they would call it.

40:52 honey. was that they started storing their mushrooms in honey. Good luck. And they know for sure they started storing them in honey. Yeah, but mead, that's a lot of people don't know, that alcohol made with honey is an early You know, like, oh my God. I didn't like it. Exactly. They're probably my people too, but they're still fucking silly. Really?

44:00 yelled hold it was the super secret signal for them to all – But it only lasted for a second. I mean, you know, it makes sense, right? is different than blacked out it's true but but like if i drink jack if i if i drink jack i'll because some folks they can't smoke what it is but for me I can get fucked up and I still remember pieces and You look in his eyes, looks like a gerbil.

46:38 Good night. it affects not just the function of the brain at the time, Basically seizures happen, you know, everybody, every, so many kinds of ailments can cause um, a physical addiction in the mind and the strange addictions like gambling? Sometimes there's no reward and you still do it. It's a crazy – just your brain is an elastic thing. Uh-uh. He just keeps gambling.

50:50 Huh. Yeah. ago. And when that happened, they found spots on his brain. Like, yeah, you've been, you've been hit a lot, dude. And that the fact that he's addicted to gambling, crazy, fascinating. The correlation between the two of them, it's like, there's damage. So your brain's just like thinks that he's like broken his skull, you know, he's clutching his head, you know, really in agony.

52:25 And he said it was like an itch that he needed to scratch. And I'll just tell your listeners right now, don't go whacking your head on stuff. you can sometimes damage a part of the brain that had been inhibiting the other half of your brain, basically. reflector and the panels inside the reflector, Like they lost this and so now all of a sudden that?

55:20 yeah, it comes at these terrible things. He has pain, you know, and this guy has pain, Like, have you seen the young man that can look out a window from a plane Nice. and this guy can do it every single time. It's not at all common for someone who's autistic to also have these savant-like abilities. uh, There's, Um, of cats, like here's an example.

58:17 Well, that looks like psychedelics. So who knows? from the history of how it was stacked up in his apartment, Yeah, he's just absolutely obsessed with little girls. Schizophrenia wears off? Well, they don't know, but over the course of, And when you get in there, but it's two armies going up against each other. information about dolphin intelligence and we we there's a lot of speculation when it comes to what

1:01:00 I'll tell you right now, there's an app we made where you can take a photo of yourself as an Australopithecus or as Neanderthal and see what you would have looked like. Built completely different than a human. But they're why we're here, right? and people what probably means or i don't know probably it's not the right word but but may mean they were ridiculously physically strong.

1:03:13 Oh, my God, no. They're willing to implant the embryo if you threw a fucking caveman in their pussy. to actually bring one back. and they were our mortal enemy Because it sounds good. uh it's young through its mouth that was with its trait i guess wow yeah through its mouth Mammoth. Something. Some scientific consensus. Somebody. Yeah, whatever it is. Something. Something.

1:05:19 I mean, you know, the amount of mileage that people get out of even the most, you know, loose stories about like, you know, we may have inherited, you know, this trait for aggression. knows Neanderthal. No one knows. And I think there's this issue with, we're always going to I can't believe I'm going to blank his name, Robert, somebody help me. Right, the Bhagavad Gita.

1:07:09 Like, he was already That's so cool. Also because the translation is so odd. Can you imagine the feeling of the shockwave going by when they're all in that bunker? shit's flying overhead i mean the the whiplash from that fucking explosion must have been insane But you're getting many more people that have these brain injuries just from the concussive effect.

1:09:44 Just, you know, the brain is fragile, we're learning. just staring at it, I mean, they just, look at that. And then they jump up and they... insane. It's completely insane. Wow. Yeah, unlimited budgets. out near Edwards Air Force Base at area – Plan 42. But when the military throws money at a problem, they tend to solve it. it was right after September 11th.

1:13:00 Do you know? It's literally that, like, if you have a, if a, if a, if radar hits a thing, you know, it needs a certain number, you know, a certain amount of the radar has to bounce back, basically. It's not really good. Well, it makes me wonder, right? and the fucking aliens haven't figured that out yet? But almost every alien abduction Actually, they were just born smaller. Half small. Oh, so he didn't lose them. No, I did not know that. How did he do that? Actually, they were just born smaller, half small.

1:15:07 About human beings? incredible amounts of research done at a great value these days. And so, and it would be really You know, there's all kinds of things that make, you know, our lives possible that get off the ground that way. We don't know what the thing is, what the connection is yet. So the sense that I have of it, is means it happens so quickly in evolutionary terms eating meat makes sense if cougars are

1:18:26 of the body. Well, it's just ridiculous that people have sex in the same place where the baby comes It's like your sexual organs, I mean, this dual purpose thing is just so nutty. Yeah, sure. There's a whole category of sort of architecture that thinks about the density of stuff, you know, how we'll all live. not a single farm there's no one's growing shit you have eight million plus

1:20:34 things locally. It's good for your Like, wow, you've got to rethink this whole thing, because that fucker was designed when people were on horses. 100 years and they all fall apart this office plaza would just like come apart in 100 years recently. And one of the coolest things about, I was in the Badlands. And when we're hiking I mean, California where we live,

1:22:51 we are, Are you crazy? Shows me these architectural designs. Go to a lake, dude. in his 20s, was designing oil rigs and was describing what it was like to design them massive. It was like a hundred this company that builds this thing that can pull a whole oil rig out of the ocean and is that these storms are going to happen more and more You know, the planet is built for equilibrium.

1:25:41 every month. And I found that it's really useful for a few kinds of conversations. You know, I can like Yeah. That'd be like a banquet. Totally. People wonder, is he trying to say something? There's the uncanny valley is this and try to create a robot that could fool the human a person you're just imitating it if i say no what the fuck are you gonna do no means yes no means

1:28:51 If any Or at least His name is Russell Targ, and he's a physicist. of Psychic Abilities. I just got program of research into the psychic abilities I would love to see it. It sounds like it to me. you that when you interview witnesses, they, you know, to an auto accident, let's say they typically know some sort of physical arrangement of stuff like you know we don't know and we know that if

1:32:56 research. Yeah, that's interesting. That might be the only place for memories. Yeah. And it's like I've kept repeating this and referencing it or considering it because you end up, we know now how to turn off things like short-term memory. You're going to need some serious drugs. still is sending the signals, but not like a sleeping person who would wake up, the memory

1:35:51 But as a result, yeah, your body still is free to respond. consensus amongst doctors the idea that anybody would sort of Man, man. or the original sort of discovery that led to that was in slaughterhouses, they would stun You calmed him down, but you shut, you know, the Jack Nicholson drooling at the end of the movie where it's, oh, he's gone. It means positive symptoms were the symptoms where you have an outburst.

1:39:14 You still can't make connections to people. oh, that guy was never the same since he had his electroshock therapy, and going, we're so silly. I mean, I think it's a really interesting, you know, it's a great time reference. your time, like where you are, and begin to pick up the history over time of where you are. And Why don't you get a burger? And I've noticed that one of the biggest things with hipsters nowadays is that they don't have cell phones anymore.

1:41:49 I'm being 100% serious. I'm into it. It's like the steampunk thing like looking back you know nostalgic at that time try to find out if a movie Well, it's also good to get the fuck away from the hive, and all that, the constant input of information. I geek out on hardest. I really He's like, you're being thrown to the sky in a chair. I haven't gone in and done a tank.

1:44:13 Otherwise, I would suggest a place here. it's not available anywhere else in the world. there's no distractions, but every now and then don't have your body talking to you. Total darkness, total silence. and so much more clearly. people about it and they're like wow i need to do that i'm like jesus it's 2013 why the fuck are I will try it out. How are you talking about?

1:47:31 that I'm shocked isn't available at major universities. That's not the reason, Brian. to me about isolation tanks because they've heard it tank and tell me that's not a trippy experience, deprivation tank experience an isolation tank. I just wanted used to take acid and talk to dolphins. one he was vertical with sort of like a space helmet on for his air and he would like float

1:50:53 during these uh this mushroom trip though like i ate i just i ate a cap i just went into a little That the dolphin was like hearing your cries And then she's like, see, this is the vagina. bunch of fish come and stare at you i think it's ridiculous they do eat like crazy and they seemed And they would all commit suicide if they were some dolphins that killed themselves then if they were

1:53:10 has been in captivity. where we didn't understand these animals. They kill babies. He's a cool guy. than what we have now, and how incredibly scary that is. They're really playful. The only way you catch them And they have a nice environment. I wonder what purpose that serves. where it's just a tiny line of hair above the lip. itself in this little cage it was smaller smaller than this room, and this fucking thing

1:57:15 and they just were swimming in circles nonstop. I think it's called a Balboa. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. they should give them food It was salt. It tastes like salt water and shit. Even zoos. I mean, I take my kids to the a relic, I think. what was the zoo back in, you know in the 19th century, 18th century. start and think about what an intelligent

1:59:48 hand though i would point out that there's like you know there is some at least some understanding But it's enough that for a long time, it looks as if there's a long horizon out in front of you. They would also let goats loose in there like they do in Asia. Cue the video. where they released a goat I mean, that's what they do. because it's got, I mean, they say one of the big things about mountain lion attacks is they

2:02:17 There was an attack. Yeah, so here, they drop this thing out, And this is lions here. and rip them apart. anything to chase. and you do need to keep that. on that shit. Yeah, I think there's a whole gang of smart marine animals, you know. you put a snorkel on you swim with uh stingrays and all these other fish. And fish poop, by the way, everywhere you look.

2:04:20 SeaWorld's badass, though. That's all I have to say. Do you want to fish? way, they're trying to express something and if he's paying attention, to just deliver the fish. They're amazing. I started thinking that their consciousness is probably quite a bit like a human's consciousness. and it interacted with you, you would freak the fuck out. and manipulate the world.

2:07:20 Yeah, paint themselves. Like when we look back at the evolution of people, one of the great turning points in evolution is when we began burying our dead. watches his diet in order to extend his life to that point where he gets to do that yeah that's a I must survive. is to me an amazing thing. Like the idea that you would voluntarily leap off a cliff, you know, you have to resist so many millennia of programming to do that.

2:10:04 to be done and 20 of the people are going to die and that's not acceptable. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. Like, how do you resist the impulse to do that? And he said, well, you know, we're trained, you know, we're recruited and trained for a specific ability, you know, and situational awareness is what he described it. So it's ready to blow up? I had and the same reaction so many people would have.

2:11:43 to keep it going. And you're trained to do that i think i can probably make it and by god he lands it he totally like goes does the corkscrew and Yeah, they get in their car and they fucking run. And he narrowly avoided being killed in both the Columbia and the Challenger disasters. He was training for both and through a fluke of scheduling did not go on either

2:13:36 And as he's doing it, he looks down, and the clouds have parted beneath him, And he doesn't do it because he would have had to let go of this piece of equipment and go for the camera. Right. We need them. to see who can do the more and more fucked up things. You're trying to find the extremity of life. There's a purpose to having that kind of alpha person.

2:16:05 Yeah. And I never will. That's exactly right. around creating rescue robots that would replace firefighters, would replace people, and people are doing it. i think it is it can throw bricks oh it ejects yeah yeah yeah yeah there's a whole also there's But it looked like it was reaching for you to kill you. And so you've got to paint them like ambulances.

2:18:35 Yeah, that's a cinder block, man. would be terrified of that. and then it can spring up through the air. That's the other thing is you can roll it off a cliff and it'll survive the fall. And Jamban's scared of spiders, we just found out, Well, spiders in general are Arachnophobia spiders, yeah. or somewhere in your genetic past, rather, And he had determined that the sound

2:21:03 And that was the one that was grossest. That totally makes sense. And a lot of other people would start throwing up too. I don't know how many people I've seen throw up. and she was all upset because she couldn't clean it it totally goes away is two guys fucking anyway then that would be throw-up sound totally When you smell it, you want to go the other way. That's a good idea.

2:23:46 Sure, sure. because there's some stuff you've got to keep in there. evolutionary desire to escape stinky people that's right right. Right? That's right. There's a whole thesis there, I'm sure. Yeah. Dude, this has been fascinating. You're way, Thank you. weird things like that. There's definitely two or getting in isolation tanks. I have a computer and I don't know how to get on

2:26:29 by people that have positive experiences in isolation tanks It's not like you're busy all day. What is that on the hat? San Diego's awesome, isn't it? Okay. And then it was just like, that was everywhere I went. what is that, funniest shit ever that's also what big fat retards that live in the city. They go, uh. Someone's got to feed this big guy. You've got a bunch of lines.

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