Joe Rogan Experience #342 — Christopher Ryan Transcript

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0:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. It's an honor. There's so much interesting shit in it. It's such a fascinating sort of exposure about sexuality and evolution and how we sort of evolved and how we've got to this point where it's kind of a – it's gotten away from us and there's all this – I think Duncan Trussell said it best. But we've got Chris Ryan and then under it says author, public speaker or something,

1:47 You know, and it's weird times. live in a time where pretty much all our basic illusions are exhausted. Politics, nobody thinks I mean there are so many things, diet. porter ale i would like to have one of those can jim get one? Yeah, I drank some of that for the first Hey, how dare you? I was saying earlier, it's normally kind of heavy and sweet for me.

4:43 And even discussing it in the periphery, dancing around I got a little phlegm. Some part of something. Right. Which is kind of grandiose when you're talking about dongles. She has like an online media thing that she does already. And so they threatened the company. Did they bring the guy back? Yeah. Insanity. Right. But by the way, I think that's another one of these basic illusions that's exhausted.

9:06 The overwhelming support of WikiLeaks by people online But it's a fucking Model T. I mean his name is Richard Schweid. of men and women working together, there's this sort of like fakeness that goes on all day. And because we bullshit each other all day at work, because we bullshit each other when You know, I have had a unique relationship with television and then I've been on a couple shows that went on a

12:52 There's no way you could have that on television. Video games, absolutely. like, You want crime shows. oh, Yeah, that too. And the structure, I mean, I'm writing this book now. They need to feed and grow. Right, whereas internet, it's like, wow, you've got clicks. Anything along these lines, the YouTube videos that people have, the Young Turks, people have these video.

16:01 It couldn't have existed without the YouTube possibility, the internet possibility, without that sort of a platform. So, you know, I'm pretty well familiar with the culture. But one thing I notice in Spain and I love about Spain is that women don't assume you're a rapist because you smile at them. In Spain, you don't see that sort of shit. There's a craziness to that.

18:33 These men are assholes. You have a crazy, ridiculous way of looking at things. And it's whatever it is. Yeah. And so she was saying that wasn't rape. Whereas the you know where the the idea being that regret means that you can withdraw your consent. Obviously they were looking to get at him for something else. Yeah, sure. that he should do right he should release information that he believes is contrary to

22:12 So I think the view You never hear him being talked about. might not be right they might be i mean he was off about breitbart about with the whole andrew He's talking straight to the camera. There's no individual point of view. Just show me what color flag are you holding up. No, we will though, man. She doesn't want to have anything to do with either their advances or jokes about it.

25:30 They agreed to? Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Yeah. He never had sex ever, right? Isn't that the case? Oh, yeah, because it would excite people. and one of the very wealthy Saudi and Kuwaiti I mean the only thing good about it is if you're the man. Right. We were just talking about the suppression of sexuality that women don't feel like. was it was sexual paradise that's why the mutiny on the bounty happened.

29:06 But anyway, it stopped in Tahiti to spend about a month or two months there to, like, you know, get fresh water and fix the ship and do all this stuff. We're going back to Tahiti, man. I know what you're – hey, that's even worse. parts offensive and the other isn't well cunt is like if she called him a cock Eddie Huang. I don't know. it's got, I'm talking about testicular ratio and how that explains certain things about our ancestors.

32:13 And that always gets a huge laugh when I do that. That's a compliment. Maybe that's the part that's insulting. The size of your package is directly proportionate to how slutty the girls around you are. sort of orgiastic tribal societies of that there's only 50 of them they're living together in the woods and they knew each other from the time they were born

34:11 that's how people at the dawn of time lived yeah those people it would benefit them to be sexually your hammocks are next to each other and you spend most of your time together, that's great. And we're Yeah. Make it a law. I don't know how to pronounce it, We want meat. you know, whatever. And I'm feeling well, you don't have to do it but so the guys who get up they'll like get up and be all oh you know grumbly and pissed off

37:34 of meat going back into the village. if you want, but we can be pretty sure that the groups were never more than 150 individuals. I don't remember which. It's like that's as many people as we can keep track of. Yeah. Wow. This guy died and he fell in a crevice and the glacier went over him and didn't wipe him out. Just houses, trees, just crush everything.

41:09 What I thought – the book idea is – you remember how Rumsfeld going into Iraq said there are the known knowns and the known unknowns and the unknown – you remember that whole thing? They would wipe out the valley. which almost wiped out our species. So those bears and leopards and shit, you'll see them coming, right? remains that they're finding from 30, 40,000 years ago, those weren't typical at all. The typical people were down on the beach.

44:04 And that's the stuff that's representative. I'm like, how crazy is it? 000 years ago and then the idea that the only way you find things is if people died in like a Right. there's a lot of times they're really fucked up. I would imagine. human beings today, it's almost like we're waking up in the middle of history. As a person, Well, this is what we've calculated.

47:21 That's the real infinite. They found fucking gorillas. So it's kind of fascinating when you really think of like where we are right now and how much we know about how we got here. I didn't mean to do that. your homework. No, I've just been fascinated Monkey balls is such a good phrase. Yeah, which makes things complicated in translating our book to Spanish.

49:20 Yeah, the monkey wrench that was thrown in though to get back to the bonobos was bonobos are not violent. And in fact, we're more closely related to them than they are to any other primate. We're like super close in terms of DNA. seen a bonobo kill or rape another bonobo. We can never live like them. Dolphins are also involved in mass genocide, infanticide rather.

52:03 In fact, that's one of the theories. Sarah Hurdy, who's written They have sex with as many guys as possible. and that's been verified. And so one population got isolated on the south side of the Congo for food, therefore they never had to get competitive. If that's true, that's a radical look at socialism, because what is the number one Socialism is...

55:16 I'll tell you, a guy you should interview. He's such a smart dude. How do you keep track? Correlation. or someone who came from nothing and never wanted to go back to that again and had so much drive. Bungee jumping. Yeah. And it does it like several times. and it'll cure you of any ideas of bungee jumping i hope that wasn't on tosh.0 Fuck it list, bungee jumping.

59:11 him to do it so finally he was going to do it and then like a week before he was supposed to do it It was cheap. Goa is just below Mumbai in India. No, two months on this beach. And you do the first day theory. And it's like all this weird, horrible stuff. that has like a really strong Like you don't swim against the undertow. Yeah, we didn't finish the Itsy the Iceman story. The reason why this guy didn't get smushed is because he, like, fell into the bottom of this crevice and got covered and turned into, like, essentially, like –

1:01:58 Do you know Brad Pitt has a tattoo of Itsy on his arm? yeah maybe those perfume ads fucking do it for me though have you seen them no might be the cover the stink this is not they remade the commercial using kim jong kim jong il The world turns and we turn with it. yes no i didn't no that's the Tom Hanks one, right? Oh, no. He's a well-known director.

1:05:17 How about the amazing dancer? Anyway, yeah. can put on i think that smells kind of cool but generally i like the way people smell when they're street and there's no sewage and everything. Is that your iPad you fuck? To deal with the amount of bacteria that you're absorbing in your system on a daily basis, which dogs have. You got lucky. And the raw garlic's good.

1:08:23 Italian men keep the Italian women are we going to are large that Asian balls Barcelona, smoking a joint. And we were like, what? at the time and like spectrum of the races. Oh. That's her pool. Oh, yeah yeah she's uh not impressed i haven't asked i don't even ask He sounds wonderful. Yeah. Dropping N-bombs. Can't get enough of them in my life. because i guarantee you right yeah if you've done any muay Thai at all, you wouldn't have your fucking pants.

1:13:14 You can't walk. Do they really put the gang signs online? Palisades or Malibu, one of those high schools. sort of materialistic vibe to the family and it gets its gets distributed to the But these people are probably never around for their fucking kids. I mean, it's a fucking grind. And she talked about, like, you know, at night, nobody worried about where you were.

1:16:11 but it's the brazil of beverly hills and say hey who wants to go to mozambique yeah they're gonna Yeah. So I hear a lot about it. The idea of leaving your kids just wandering around in Africa. Yeah. That's not a good way to tell me. In Alaska, you get that with mosquitoes. There are these people that – there's a bunch of different ones. have three months of summer where they're

1:18:50 they're dealing with fucking swarms of mosquitoes, you can see a swarm coming at you and you're setting up your tent you know and like i remember Well, the Eskimos, I believe that they smeared fat on their skin He's an anthropologist. They were afraid he would go out and die the traditional way. And with the sinews and whatever other pieces of the dogs,

1:21:45 You know how they kill polar bears? seal uh rib and sharpen the two ends of the seal rib and they're pretty flexible so they'd bend it And it would kill them? I don't know how but he can't get his hand out There's the monkey standing there with his hand in the box. That's amazing. Bumper sticker, bad. Like, man, you got shit in your hand? I believe you talked to Duncan about that.

1:24:57 that they they always clean with their left hand yeah the the shit experiment did you actually make Do you want in the cult, yes or no? Yeah, pseudoscience. But, you know, let Sheldrake debate that. He never, he was a very sort of straight guy himself. on the website of TED, the accusations that they had or the reasons that they had for censoring states of consciousness also details what they believe to be certain psychedelic substances and that it's most likely responsible for a lot of art.

1:28:40 that most people in the media, when you start talking about mushrooms, they think you're a silly person. And I think he's also used MDMA in psychotherapy with people who have end-stage cancer to help them. It's the red mushroom with the white spots in Alice in Wonderland. And yet, as you say, it's still considered fringe. Yes. It's absolutely a fascinating possibility to consider.

1:32:16 it's ignorance. It's the illegality of it, which was hoisted onto the American people in the 1970s I don't think that can be denied. and you're ignoring information. That's insanity. the world to have ignored that and poo-pooed that take six grams of mushrooms get in an isolation He's a really fascinating guy because he's not down on marijuana at all. He sort of attributes it to his own abuse of it and like using it as a crutch instead of using it to enhance.

1:35:28 Russell Brand, thank you. He likes massages. You've got an addiction. Like I have a friend who had a back operation and then after his back operation, they threw him on some Oxy's and he was fucked up for a long time. in his case, it was chronic pain. Yeah, that's funny. I never thought about it that way. I always knocked it off still a chemical addiction it's just sort of an endogenous one yeah yeah that's

1:37:51 It hurts when you stop, right? And one of the guys, after they'd finished filming, one of the guys said, well, we've It's a sitcom. So this guy, his concern was that once this guy saw the modern world, he would never want to go home. arrows and their arrows didn't have feathers sorry their arrows didn't have feathers so anyway at the If they landed in Tahiti, the anthropologists would be like, yeah, they're not going home.

1:40:42 They're like an anal father, an anal son. Yeah. Yeah. He was an anthropologist who studied under the great French, and uh he was like a hemingway kind of guy and he just published a book recently calling them the fierce people, It's very political, right? Turns out that when he went into this area, he brought lots of machetes. So then he would go to the other village and as a way to confirm whether the information

1:44:41 Fucking bullshit, man. Right. And these white people come along and fuck everything up again. I don't remember what tangent. And so a lot of stuff – that one, I was talking about that one last night at a cocktail party in Venice actually. And the older boys will have sex with them, not anal sex, but they'll put their penis between the thighs of the younger boy.

1:47:04 Well, that's the thing. But it doesn't. He was so proud to have an effect and they sort of start to become the accuser. I mean, they also become the perpetrator. Right, right, right. According to this idea, there are different ways to be gay. But aren't there a variety of different types of experiences? Some mothers would say that's abuse. And that's – I mean otherwise why would so many abuse victims become abusers themselves?

1:51:22 Right. waited till they got sexually mature and started you know having sex and then they switched them reading books for the first time, but among experts, there's a mistake You know, why did the chin evolve the way it did? And that this has always been this way. There were a bunch of people doing ayahuasca and eating fish It's like 1400s or something like that, or 1300s.

1:55:37 mature, she gets her own room called a flower room that has a door that opens into the central not to your biological child. In fact, biological fatherhood is a non-issue in this society. He just thought he was slick. and talk about their ancestors? There's a book called Cultural Materialism by Marvin Harris, which is a great book. Or why on some South Pacific islands were the people cannibalistic and others they weren't,

1:58:52 because they were protein starved. Wow. Right. And then he applied that same thing to the Yeah, sure. that have these conflicts with the Indians The Donner Party. I'm sure. Well, the oldest continually open bar is from the 1700s. Yeah. Looking at some fucking wooden shacks that are huddled up together eating beaver pelts? It was money that Native Americans used in the Northeast, right,

2:02:38 Yeah. So they didn't even just rip off the Indians when they bought Manhattan. That's a lot of seashells. somebody wanted to build here or there. Wow. That's beautiful. but I wasn't able to put it so eloquently in my head. Now we got chickens, you know, now we got whatever. Yeah. I mean, it really does seem have holographic images. We're going to have like, the technology is always driven by this sexual

2:07:44 right away. Because that's where the fucking cocaine came from. And that might, I mean, what percentage of that What was the share of the market? titles that they just had there mm had there and they're selling for like Yeah. She's really interesting. She's all into fisting and And she also has a flashlight. I mean, look, when we start talking about

2:11:34 And so he, you know, whatever, they were going out to dinner. her place and she says oh sorry the you know we the rule changed a little bit think about drugs you know like hey if coca leaf is illegal well then they're going to make cocaine That's what I want to do. Jesus Christ, folks. She's an odd case. You always connect it with some sort of an abuse.

2:14:41 Yeah. it sort of enlightens you on the the origins of them but what is like one of the weirdest things military in world war ii 25 of them died in action well when they were back on base, I guess in Hawaii or the West Coast, they had key parties where So I don't think anyone was worried about, you know, pulling the short straw out of the We could have gone to a bar and gotten laid. Because we wanted those other guys, we wanted our buddies to love our women so that if I die, I know these guys will take care of her.

2:17:38 each other. They take care of each other's kids. They share their food. They, you know, And I know it sounds very contradictory. I mean, you could, if you take a real global perspective, you could say, as I tend to think of it, Right. Right, right. Exactly. And if they have to step on us to do it, they'll do it, you know. It's here. They've been making fucked up choices for a long time.

2:20:38 So it's a natural behavior pattern. And Hulk Hogan. Yeah? And the wife was like either naked or in lingerie and the other dude was sucking her toes or something. Yeah, and how different they are, as you were saying, in cultures. And then they went and interviewed his wife. i mean who knows who Who fucking cares? Exactly. And the idea was, and it was whatever the major brand plumbing thing is.

2:24:25 Wow. I think it's plunger, dual action plunger or whatever that chemical. Last time I was here, I guess we talked probably off the air about it a little bit. I'm here to snake your drink. Meanwhile, he's going to go upstairs and it's just nothing but shit floating in her bowl. and she just woke up the melons I didn't get that Yeah. audio book it's also available of course uh in in book form and it's fucking great and you're

2:26:57 It's on iTunes. All right. I've been doing a lot of theaters lately. We had a great time. And you're like, no way, Joe. That's Ting. Bill Burr, one of my favorite human beings