Joe Rogan Experience #348 — Steven Rinella, Bryan Callen, Cam Edwards Transcript

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0:00 All day! All day! forget that i'm gonna forget that trip for the rest of my life we had a great fucking time i watched the episodes twice now really and i love them and i thought it was shot really well i thought seth i have no reason to take shots at you just do you know did i tell you that what they But for the most part, men will wear things that are like,

1:59 you're getting shut down son i want to hear your point of view on it because look at how and just crazy clothes. And it's that, like, I was reading this book on human evolution, and he was arguing, like, how could it ever be beneficial to be a daredevil? Because there's a lot of other dudes involved. When you're in a fucking wingsuit, There's a gap in between these two buildings,

4:23 How much can you really totally control it? Yeah, that's him. Yeah, look at this. Well, Red Bull sponsored the highest... So you don't get torpedoed in the air by a fucking plane going 500 miles an hour. yeah there's a selective advantage towards and being a daredevil yeah there's definitely Yeah, and I'm with he's not a team player. I'm sure I'd like him, but when I see him, I'm like, punch that guy in the face, man. On top of the fact

7:00 He's great. He's great. I mean, what are you doing? I'm good friends with Penn Jillette, and women love him. Is that Penn, like – Tried to fight Mike Tyson. think it was Teddy. I'm sorry, David, if, you know, And David goes, there's no trick. And David said that the guy jabbed him once. And then he hit him again. That's a jab from a cruiserweight who's not even a top pro.

9:23 He's ridiculous. Right. Right. could be a boxer and fight Mike Tyson? Have an Movies, where you see a guy get punched in the face and he comes back and hits again. If you've been hit before, you can calm yourself down even though you know that like, wow, I just got hit hard. Like eyes open while a guy is punching your face. Well, no. Did you not see the Bradley...

12:05 The guy that he fought in Rocky III? Yeah, don't tell anybody what happens because it's so crazy. You ever see that? That Samoan head. Would you say the physical to knock out. They say that fighting trainers look for a short neck and a wide face. and Tua went from, um, like he, he, he went from, he took the weight 490 pounds What kind of shitty trainer is that guy?

14:41 How about that, man? Hunting. I was like, there's a couple points where I was like, whoa, I'm breathing really heavy. Just like walking around on uneven ground. the in the truck and drive to a gas station you know and you go in to get like a fountain pop from just like those long arduous hikes you know yeah the human body is incredibly adaptable i mean there's things that

17:43 we get to the top and he he's, like, glassing. That's funny. She jumped on me and decided to ride me. And she took her heel and went, get that in my rib. because they wrestle around together naturally. two hours ago, my wife sent me I think the idea that a man man that it's natural for a man to have no explosive release physically for the You lose it.

20:04 doing here we are. I mean, how many people would complain and whine? like you get you get just generally you cost them through it throughout the year and then you see But they already demonstrate physical differences and physical adaptations. You hear these guys, they get like 280-pound deer or whatever. Like a bigger animal, let's say you have exactly the same shape dogs.

23:39 bunch of blood into that big ear and drop that heat off i see what i'm saying is that's not just will in some way demonstrate that same tendency of, where they come from. guys going out west. you know, a stocky guy or whatever. who makes it and why it's just a very difficult thing to pinpoint Yeah, Steve and I are both on Sportsman Channel. I've got to—

26:44 having you on uh randy couture is going to be joining us we're going to talk about you know the the the i think a lot of the similarities in the crossover between the mma world and the world of I mean, they don't want to do that anymore. and growing your character. You've got to fail. have that have never been in any kind of conflict ever. And you don't know how they would react.

28:48 It's a matter of doing something difficult and testing your boundaries. They looked at children as being like an addition of resources. but given this artificial sense of him having to have output, it and to turn it like no we're doing this we're doing this we're doing this and it's like and i there are days you walk in and you're like, I don't want to wrestle.

30:51 That's a huge part. Between sucking weight and the training. You're essentially starving while you're going to war. Thank God you changed the name of that stupid thing. Right, exactly. I'm so bad at labeling. And you get into the octagon with Ronda Rousey man she's been through the muck she and that's what i'm going to talk to her about is is when something bad happens to her,

33:22 I'm going to react in a good way. Ray Mancini used to say, who was that? Doesn't it suck to get to an age used to be the weedies guy not some freak on a fucking reality show? God. How about that? They're completely crazy. Handsome and then decides he's going to go It's too easy to make fun of the ones that are fucked up right now. and it actually happens and you get to watch.

35:43 with one bag of tricks and that's getting empty. I can watch it. And you're like, you've got to come up with something. But a lot of times and noise there but you're not drawing from much brother you're working with one bag of tricks and that's getting empty i can watch it and you're like you got to come up with And a boar, yeah. one question not even how you doing never not a question no interest it's all about him he's truly

36:59 I mean, it was like a fucking five-minute diatribe on how well this audition went. He wants to make sure he's off of that list. It certainly felt that way Yeah. Basically, we ate, slept. but I realized eventually that the softest way to do it And guess what he's going to carry? You'll lose something, though, man. Sorry, guys. There's like a – I was talking one time with an older friend of mine.

39:55 with and i think that in a way it's not saying this is exclusive to hunting i mean there's many with and again I don't want to make I think that sports teams feel something That's funny. say that having come from LA, which was the exact opposite of being thrown into that experience, It's true, dude. thing to do because and also i knew that brian callan holds up i knew no matter what happened

42:41 It's true. That hurts my feeling, Joe. I got holes Right Yeah, you don't want it to become a fossil either. He comes out and he's a construction worker. Your buddy? Comes home. He kills the boyfriend with his bare hands. Are people in jail? Calm down. and they leave him behind the gas station. Oops, you dropped something. Then they come Cops were like, knock, knock, knock.

46:09 Yeah. Still ended up catching him. Similar, but one of them um, yeah. Yeah. Where we did our float. You know so many cool fucking stories. he can try to get away if you can run away. I was enjoying myself, man. where when you get uncomfortable and cold like that some party wants you to stand there you know And they're totally fine. It constricts certain blood vessels and stops the flow of blood

50:18 you tire and you and it's always like you know know, he's got some clothes And the first time since I got married, I took my wedding ring off for a day. Do you even wonder where your wedding ring is You just hear a bunch of dudes in the background So I go I get massages a spa where I got a massage from a dude. Some women are. I come back home. Why was it surprising?

53:01 How do you top the URL? Oh, that's hilarious. Hey, guys. Steve, you are the only hunting show that I know of that shows on a regular basis. skunkers. The first time we filmed an unsuccessful hunt. and went and spent six days hunting, didn't get anything. courting uncertainty do you know what i mean yeah and like like things that are challenging and things you won't figure out so i think people like to see that represented

55:45 It was just the thing that happened, man. And so you want to see people achieve what you wish you achieved. It's okay. It's so hard. It wasn't like we actually got a bunch of presentation it also lends to the drama. Like, shit. Because he has enough failure in his life. I mean, it is a fucking TV show. kind of limits ted nugent has in his backyard i don't know if it's like a land management issue

59:37 Yeah there's a lot of variability And I think also, beyond that, it's surprising use that to either build schools on or use that land to fund school construction and they threw you have the government plays a much stronger hand and a much more detail oriented hand and like Two hogs? I'm a mountain lion hunter. I've heard people say that they're worried that the mountain lion population is going to get too strong if they do that.

1:02:36 california or anything but you're seeing a pretty uh a real erosion of um you know hunting right like you can go to the American public and say like, it's easy to sell people on the idea it's easy to sell people who've never seen a hunting dog And so like there will never be a thing like we'll ban hunting. Right. I heard a big debate about this mountain lion issue. And one of the things that the

1:05:04 If you really wanted to get rid of hunters, we wouldn't have revenue to actually maintain those parks. I mean, I'm not comfortable That you're going to wind up seeing impacts that might be counter to what it is you're going after. a radical, very localized decline in elk and moose, okay? you're probably thinking but we don't even have wolves in Colorado.

1:07:30 Do wolves – I guess they stay within a certain territory. Yeah, it's Joe's. They've ruled out that humans are troublesome. there's talk there's hurt mountain ranges that maybe had 9 000 elk now they're down to less than Well, the problem is also I heard you can't actually shoot your way People try to pretend they're dogs and get all attached to them because, you know, it looks like your collie.

1:10:10 all going down someone sneaks out of a house and they have a farm and like there's a story i read And you just heard these horrific noises That's going down in your yard. You would swear it's a Photoshop. Cam, you got, I mean, you deal with wildlife, not so much wildlife politics, but sort of like public perception, public opinion. So you've got these groups that are out there trying to stop the wolf hunt.

1:12:11 And I think that's why you're trying to – that's where that battle comes in right now. And that's just the reality of the food chain of life. She was also wearing an elk suit. They're in anything else. And what do people do? No. Why wouldn't you do that? me. The pig is a pig. is not going to live forever. would not exist I've got five. Yeah. Just recently got chickens so that I could eat their eggs.

1:16:45 I'm not going to Italy. Like it's so common. Yeah, I'll take coconut water. I'll make some, but there's no more. You want a beer? That's right, son. Yeah, thank you. Gardens and becoming a farmer? Yeah, beers. Three left. There was no power. Everything was fucked. weird man where i save um freeze-dried food and stuff in my basement very smart you know but. But I still haven't done the water thing is the one you got to do.

1:19:25 back corner and wouldn't use diddly Then he put out goats. alfalfa right he's like why not just have that be like have output right sure that there's a lot of animals if you go out and put them on just that i'm sure there's a lot Does that make sense with alfalfa making the deer taste better? You could do it on, so we've got 40 acres, but right now we're only using about four.

1:22:05 The chickens are over here. Assholes. They must eat. And if you think about that in a real neighborhood, man, you could have – as long as you had the soil and as long as you had the resources to get it started and then make it so it's self-sufficient. they have flatbed trucks that you can rent space like in china they built a whole city i guess where the roofs are basically planters to

1:25:05 They had a whole hydroponic vegetable system set up with lights. my badge and my fucking Yeah, exactly. And what it is is he's got a cattle ranch And they take out the dike systems and put it back in the bird habitat. likes to hunt pigs and he would always go back and hunt the the boundary between his ranch and the he puts in trap doors, hinged doors.

1:28:16 Closes the door. So he goes out at 4 in the morning and shuts all those doors. Yeah, his bloodhounds find them, but they won't – he don't like to let the bloodhounds actually catch the pig. Yeah. Nutsack. It's a big pig, you know. One, the pig won't procreate, won't contribute to the problem that the preserver is having. boar we caught and they take a knife and castrate that boar and turn them out knowing that sometime

1:31:17 Yeah, but these guys are cattle ranchers. pigs with his dogs. I like it. I don't say that show Pigman, but I like it. So helicopter gunships are not your – It's Pigman and Ted Nugent shoot pigs from a helicopter. I want some hog. Oh, no, no, no. that these guys have very high expectations you know they pig hunt enough or they have a sense of get you good and we'll get you good and that was no good for you maybe that was their that was their

1:35:13 I should refer your listeners to that rather than try to explain it myself. Then the flesh becomes more palatable. Like if something, if I'm eating meat that's great, okay, on it. So good meat, I'll do that. from having killed a big game animal and not consumed it that's a very great statement so How many times have you heard anybody say that? Why did you eat a coyote?

1:37:45 like malfeasance for me to not have a good answer you know to be like i have national Wow. Remy Warren tasted it. Yeah, like a non-biological taxonomy with ducks. What does that even mean? And even some puddle ducks, some puddle ducks or dabbler ducks, eat a lot of plant matter. They're eating invertebrates, meaning clams? we've talked about it so many times on the podcast that people like hashtag

1:41:05 Like, we get fat as fuck, you know? We're using big words. It's so good. I was sober. it's situational yeah but it's not as good as the meat no we work with a guy we work with a guy and Jesus Christ. I know. He goes, what's the matter? All I did was make a little face. Do you have that video of It's now legal to hunt in Texas from helicopters. Bill Maher is.

1:45:31 doesn't even make any fucking sense. That's one of the craziest, most ridiculously hypocritical But that doesn't matter. Who knows what the fuck happened to that cow before it was converted into cheeseburgers? it's so hard to put because like no matter what it's like dan if you do dan if you don't But I would never, like, I don't then say to my wife, I'm like, ah, I really don't want to do it.

1:48:17 That really is the problem I have right now. Here's the real issue. It's not PETAita it's not the problem of being ethical towards animals But a certain percentage of people that are involved in animal rights movements have a distorted perception of the relationship between humans and animals. I'm like, that was a mountain lion in fucking Santa Monica, man.

1:50:11 A few years ago, there was a black bear in Bergen County, New Jersey. Hoboken, you fuck. Where are you right near Hoboken. You know, you got a black bear wandering around Hoboken. Hoboken, you fuck. Sorry about that. Hoboken. Ridgewood, New Jersey. So as an eight-year-old in North Jersey, I had to go to Hoboken to a diner And now I think Hoboken and Joe Rogan will kick my ass if I ever miss an answer.

1:51:41 It was illegal for a long time. They brought it back. It just doesn't make any sense that someone could be Before I started paying attention, whatever it was, if if possible to control predators, you should. Right now, you're seeing an expansion in range. They're seeing lions spreading spreading out displaced young males And you guys have all had the luxury, like I i have to travel around the world a fair bit and

1:55:52 to fish on the reefs. So it's like the reality is, is that the U.S., we have very progressive game management and we have like a hunter-based management system. You fucked. Like, we'll even go after people and be like, not only are we not buying your fisheries, down so you don't die in car accidents hunts and he buys firearms and ammunition, which has essentially a self-imposed excise tax.

1:58:39 get any taxpayer funding their funding comes through fees and licenses and they do wildlife research Because I think that PETA is the clown shoes of the animal rights movement. But instead, they're the non-clown-choose animal rights group. I mean, Wayne Pacelli has said, we want to see a day when there is no hunting in this country. get your meat from farmers.

2:00:57 I mean there is something innately human about taking your food that I think we would lose if we grew our food well i think laboratory your But reality is right now animals don't live forever and they're delicious when you eat them. Yeah, there's a lot of bad karma to that. brain function. Oh, my God. When you get into like jiu-jitsu, any kind of martial art, the stakes of you being good or bad are you getting your ass kicked.

2:03:59 People that do that, they like meat. Maybe I'm relying on the expertise of your viewers. suffering what do they propose is gonna like what will they do with control no what will they do I think they make a very distinct difference, a big difference between humans and animals, right? I sure did. All you have to do is read the end actually because he talks about how industry hijacks the sort of the hijacks government agencies like the school lunch program and what the military feeds the soldiers and to get buying their food.

2:06:56 It's been happening for a long time. He does a very good job as a scientist who is involved in this stuff, Listen to what Monsanto has done. And I was just joking around. I mean, but it takes a long time to develop a fucking drone bee. It was in the news today. An eight-year-old kid Yeah, damn. The one right next to it with the quarter. Look at that fucking thing.

2:10:14 It's like, don't sweat it, dude. there was a Was making like an exploration of the American West. Yeah. And they went feral very successfully. when that great earthquake, But anyways, that guy's shit luck. No, this guy this guy had bradbury bradbury was his name and by the time this dude makes it back home, So at the time when he was writing, he was talking about the bees somewhere in North Dakota or whatever.

2:13:19 agriculture be drastically different yeah i would say so because they're able to use them in such a targeted Honeybees are not native. but cows can crank it out. I'd like to be the son of a bitch who introduced wasps to the United States. And he had this huge spider, and he goes, watch this. insect. And I said, sting you, you'll fall to the ground and scream

2:16:10 this area, Nevada, Utah. live with them they kill us like do you understand that there's ants in africa that kill elephants You must have, your cunt thing, Is that your? Show them that. A flying monster. and robbing this country blind, We have like this huge civilization issue that's – it's really a cunt issue. and enjoying this experience as brothers and sisters.

2:19:22 some sort of motivation to get through their daily day. And you're filling these holes. like how would you give yourself advice? I think some of it comes also from... Now, that is an interesting thing to say. which is life-sustaining. I think that's where conservation movements and PETA and things come from. And that's where all the bombs went off.

2:22:03 I got kids that age. So weird, man. Yeah. I've ever had in my life. Oh, my God. To the extreme Obviously you're missing the point We are the bipolar ape. the things that i put in puts it into perspective that a couple thousand years ago someone showed I can't figure out what's going to happen. However, the problem is this kid is 29, maybe 30. He would create a lot of heat to bring people to the negotiating table, get more aid or whatever.

2:25:57 in and let the United States hook it up and then all of a sudden he starts giving press conferences that Dennis Rodman is now running North Korea. Yeah, then Minnesota had a toy governor for a while. And a conspiracy theorist to the extreme. I don't know. Iranian is very different. you had to memorize that speech oh jesus man if i had one of those and i can make everybody do that

2:28:34 I know these cupcakes aren't good for you, and cupcakes. Delicious food, And you pay We go to dinner one time, and I was like, I've been reading about wine, so I looked at the why i have very little tolerance with you when it comes to that is that i have uh my other good He's a legit wine connoisseur. love it i'll wear it i'll wear a tweed jacket i'll wear a scarf i would definitely wear a scarf

2:31:15 All right, listen. It's fascinating. Like, they passed it off. like is why the the guy who created the hoax would take really good wine and do weird stuff to it And he said, and he goes, I don't want, you can't really. Oh, you know, like literally I was drinking 1961 Stony Hills. If you spend $300 on a bottle of wine, there's a big difference. The handful of times someone did present to me what's like critically regarded as a good wine

2:34:54 And I always equate it to this. between like no wine for the rest of your life or bland food what would you what like what is I don't like the way you say gnocchi. I was in Bahrain. But really good food is another thing that's transcendental, man. A Dane cook. Oh, my God. I'm going to eat this for the people that can't eat it. I mean there's always tragic instances happening all over the world where people are getting hit in the head by coconuts, okay?

2:38:55 Someone said, all right, no good food. These dudes, they go out, they're doing their fucking wacky stunts, like pretending, Blood and brains mixed in with beard. in an aside All right? very gradual segue into drama and i was like that is the most genius thing but i don't think he ever To push it so far This is all just us playing with you. I love ZZ Top.

2:42:12 We did it. We just got to line it up. Because I'll be in Edmonton at the comic strip. I'm absolutely committed. Sitting down on the ground, 10 degrees outside, cooking deer over a fire. Because I have pictures of Brian taking a shit outside, Yeah, you're excluded. I was trying to clean my butt with my thermos. isn't because it would i work for people is there a way that you can't have me coming in

2:44:52 Oh, it's on the internet? it was very heartfelt oh no heartbeat Go to Hover.com forward slash Rogan Thanks also to Onnit.com. what the fuck you're saying huh um follow him on twitter and follow meat eater on twitter as well