Joe Rogan Experience #357 — Daniele Bolelli Transcript

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0:00 Rogan, experience. Like, I was at Disneyland today and there was a couple that was talking next to us fuck is your problem learn how to speak english right already you sound like a beautiful classicist Sounds about right. and you you've never said words that are like fairly common read like sovereignty like i have You know? Travelocity? incredibly good food great wine and no for great wine art and for being very

3:20 So it's like that's just the norm. And you're like, Jesus Christ, really? Since dudes were created. flings with the exotic might not be so good at eating pussy. Right. Yeah, even the language. You know, to be an American in the 1940s, Seriously, man, because you see the videos And everybody is disciplined and everybody is along with them. It's amazing.

7:55 If you owned your own Bible, you read the Bible by yourself, That's not even a thousand years ago. those damn people of color and it's like it's weird it's like people are donkeys being trained They take away your view of the world. You give in. hell of being different just because precisely if you value something you should question it Well, the real problem with that is that should be the way we do it.

11:00 good. Right. But that should your friendships yep and when we figure that out that's gonna be gigantic And that's the kind of shit that allows people to do creepy things. Do you know how hard human beings have worked for so fucking long to get ourselves to a position where we can walk down the street in almost every city in the country and be reasonably safe?

12:55 That's the law for fuck's sake. whether legal or illegal, Right. And what do they offer? What exactly do you do? What have you done there? That's why, I mean, if you're going to be in the game game anyway then i have no problem breaking certain laws but i don't break my and whatever the fuck. Or they are these songs that he say, to live outside the law, you must be honest, which is sound like a

16:40 what's inside of you that's a very romantic notion man that's like a fucking Clint Eastwood movie you know it is right romantic notion of the the ethics of being an outlaw yeah outlaw ethics Right, because they didn't let the poor hunt. that anybody was ever willing to admit is like the intention is like very clear throughout everything and they have this very proper way of

18:12 That idealistic way of communicating did exist, at least in small places, in small pockets, for quite a while, right? It's just amazing. but it could also be like in hunting and gathering societies, You don't have real power, And it becomes so important to keep the society together, make sure that people don't kill each other. deposition become entrenched solid unquestionable. It passes to their kids, kings, divine right, all of that shit.

21:00 the bigger, the more Yeah, it's madness. Yeah, because you can't have a big society without central authority. It sounded awful Because if the world was stable, Military industrial complex, yes. the whole speech by Eisenhower in the 50s was a trip because Eisenhower, a Republican guy, a fairly conservative guy. I saw that speech, What the hell? or the military being anything but good

24:38 It's a very good school. liberal programming. It's still though. That's how it was, right? showed people the view of the assassination from essentially where this guy Zapruder was He got shot in his back. It's really interesting. No. He did a bad thing. This guy, apparently Nixon – That's good. They're part of it. Yeah, because they got rid of Nixon. He did a bad thing.

27:43 Just in case of like – just listen to it it it's crazy he said a lot of creepy So that's what he did. People need to know if their president's a crook. Well, he was a creepy dude anyway. man look at nixon you've got how the fuck did he become president that's what i'm saying know, and he had this way of talking, this charisma. That's all, you can see it right

30:28 oh, my God, the country's going in this crazy, They say that the election of 1960 shouldn't be but it's instinctive there's i mean it's not it's not even an appearance thing because They're only looking at somebody's good looking or not. and decide whether to bark at you or be all like, Yeah, okay, fuck. whether or not you trust it and whether or not

32:53 Of course. Well, not all of them. Hell, save so much. obvious freak there's nothing that's cream freak but there's a sexual freak no no i mean just like weird like i'll stab you in the shower kind of freak but as in she does look freakishly cold And she's singing. just think about that statement She could be one of those people that's so crazy that they sort of reformed their reality every three or four hours.

35:42 And unfortunately, I think a lot of them suffered childhood abuse but understanding doesn't mean justifying What is it? But just some form of education, some community center, something. And the thing that drives me crazy about people when you're in a shit spot. about people who are in that situation. And then Rob went on to get his PhD. And to this day,

38:15 And we started chatting afterwards. It happens all the time. It's real dangerous. bring it up all the socialism and and people – like that's – there's a bunch of babies there, man. Way better. So there is an element where the individual needs to find a way because if nothing else like but you know you can do it well yeah sweet for sweet of you to say it wasn't you know you

41:18 The same kind of contracts you give to clean up fucking Iraq. shit. And it was hilarious because it was the same exact dynamics you see them today. We're broken little crazy animals. I'm glad you see it because I would mean to talk to you about your room for improvement that because when i look at objectively just me i do see so many places where i could improve

43:56 It's like, okay. like I can resource a database of cool, intelligent, people. People who And that's why I listen, because I can't find it around me. like you need a spot where you meet up and then Fuck me. You know, when we do it, when we bring you these people, of 2,000 people in Nebraska or something. only crazy one in town there really is something different and you can share it with other people

47:37 They made these little pamphlets and they handed out these pamphlets about religion and people would hide them and Because only a priest can read it correctly. If you read it on your own, you're going to screw things up and pollute the word of God. and then eventually in general if you didn't have If you become a priest, it's your only cover they even fucked her and got her pregnant.

49:52 Yep. And even those guys there pro-communist approach, Like they were going deep. No, it's crazy. the stake just as much as Catholics were doing it. Well, that? And Protestants started burning people at the stake you know, the Father, Son, Holy Ghost thing, Which is like, what kind of a sick motherfucker do you have to be to be in Sanrio? I just used mine the other night.

52:58 That is a fucked up part about history is the cruelty that people were willing to do to their fellow man. It's not nice, but you can see a logic to it at least. Because rather than interpreting life by looking at what really is going on, you are trying to interpret it to this filter of your, it has to fit my preconceived notion of the universe. It's like a broken circuit.

54:54 may not work today. Yeah, especially folks that seem to have a little extra fear or a little less curiosity or they get tired easier. Before MMA, before Bruce Lee, everybody was like, Judah is the shit, fuck karate, You had certain words you would use. Many traditional martial arts built a cult in terms of cult of personality You're not telling somebody to fuck off,

57:45 That's that whole idea that you can't question. Who the fuck are you that you can't be questioned? Dr. Manhattan. Yep. you went over someone's house and you saw You're Being being lied to, you're like, all right, man. That's exactly what it is. it's like, try, try some things. but I'm going to take whatever I can use to make life. To me, the only thing that matters is elevating the quality of life. If you're elevating the quality of life, I don't give a fuck where you got the sourcing formation from. That's not what it's about. It's where it's leading. What kind of results does it create?

1:00:27 The way human beings should talk should be explaining what they've learned from their own experiences. that you could hear today and you go, that motherfucker just nailed it. He just nailed it. You're dealing with a person Which means neither pumping yourself up or faking modesty because you're, it's like, this is how it is. event and i'm gonna derive 12 lessons from it it's like sometimes you can sometimes it's just

1:02:32 is this just to pick out all the cool shit at the end of the day, Sex and gender roles. They don't change. reject what is useless, absorb what is useful and add what's specific on your own. You know, that's the one thing that I'll be for the rest of my life. well good luck with that no I'm not really Nazi I love grandma. when you are you create your own it's like what do you mean create your own it's not there are

1:06:27 But then again, people will always be afraid of dying. is that uh i would really like to join a cult if anybody could like fucking write one that doesn't Isn't that the Mormon planet? In their story there's some really... In the 1970s, suddenly God sent a memo saying, wait, wait, you guys got it wrong. That's why to me the whole pretense that it's divinely revealed falls from the sky one day.

1:08:46 wrong yeah of course yeah whoops whoopsies isn't that like um what would when martin luther Like you made all this shit up about being a peasant and ordained a peasant forever, All for it. It's like, yeah, because I'm down with Jesus. and the downtrodden and the prostitutes and that's who Jesus was palling around if they would catch you then they would decide it was uh their way of being funny was to drown you

1:11:38 This is what drives me crazy. What if we don't have land? I'll put my house over here. Like, you're coming by the lake. Man, that's fucked up. I'll shoot you. That would be amazing. Exactly. Will we see a working utopia in our time? That's some serious end-of-the-world type shit, though. in a way that doesn't isolate you perfectly. Okay, I was just

1:14:54 You don't want to separate from society. Right. It's just fun to do. They would write you off a prescription. a needle what's funny is the the one that's the Cialis one, the pills have gotten bigger on some of them. You should not do that. But when I'm on wonder dick – I took one on stage in Sacramento because I had one on me. they're still killing rhinos to like to give chinese dudes boners did they not know about

1:18:15 Yeah, they've been knocking them down a lot lately though. like bonerific stuff yeah you can look that shit it's a genus of 60 or more species of What is it supposed to do? See, same story as the fucking – the quarter-sips mushrooms. And I was imagining like that mushroom going into the pill that Brian takes and this dick exploding. What? Yeah, because –

1:21:11 Why? Something around what he said, but with some science that none of us really know. i think they've got it down like this is like i think my dick's getting a little harder but Because that's not your resting heart rate. You do it on purpose. Oh, you probably would. People are like, I'm just... to lighten up the moment so I don't even want to talk about it.

1:24:45 You shouldn't talk about it. That shit... She grabbed my cock and I threw her on the ground. Completely coincidentally, what can I say? It's okay. Bitch, she is 40 years younger than him. Let it happen. shit there's none of that as long as it's consenting adults back the fuck off let people That makes sense to me. But sex is not a lot of work. But the reality is they're

1:28:30 And lying and hooking up just really because you want to fuck somebody. no but the thing is like the stuff you're saying about uh how people perceive sex is really not It's like, well, a woman who's kind of indiscriminately having sex left and right, blah, blah, blah. Let me try again. That's Italy for you, right? I think it was it was a GI GFE place, which is the girlfriend experiment or experience and

1:30:46 And I'm like, oh, my God, this poor girl just fell asleep on me. Like when you corner But that's how this country got started. They didn't come here for religious freedom. They're much like fundamentalists today. and then like 13 years later, not that long later, These guys were happy to leave because they felt that they could start their own Oh shit, bitches.

1:33:44 You have a few animals. And it's like, that's some weird weird sick shit that was going on nothing else So soon enough, you start eating your friends. the stuff that has been considered normal throughout much of human history, it blows your mind to think like probably 75% Because they believe a different idea. And they were telling how great it was?

1:35:57 And it was an investment. who came here were basically slaves, white people, you know, never going to leave that time. who escaped the settlement to go live with Indians with a bunch of local Indians. They basically had an interracial community where they would party a And that's us. same okay listen we know they're kooks yeah but listen they spend a lot of time praying that we

1:39:03 And so the other guys who are way worse win because they are more disciplined. One of the weirdest things about history for me as I get older is realizing how short a period of time that was ago where things were so bananas. years ago right that's crazy it is it is and in that sense yeah living in europe is a trip because Yep. Sure did. They ruined everything they learned.

1:41:20 is that they never really... They sent an ambassador. motherfuckers because of that you want gold we'll give you all the gold you want they melt a bunch 1200 AD. a few hundred years But what they had in a lot of California towns were the Indian hunts, which was the local, on the local newspaper, they would publish this saying that if you, you know, you're the scalp of an adult female, and a little bit less for the scalp of a child, because it's good for the health of the community

1:44:02 I have to carry around to prove that I killed it. unscrupulous. I tell you, these Indians sure do smell, though. really painted their face it was just from butts Yeah. What the fuck are you doing, man? Yep. That's a shit choice in hair wear. There was nothing left but bones. Sheesh. That is also how you know you fucked up yeah first of all if you're

1:46:51 and burns them. It doesn't allow the vultures Yeah, nature's nice and cool as long as you're in your car. It wasn't a big animal. You know, we're trying to stick a fucking broomstick back there to get rid of this raccoon. Raccoons and skunk both scare me. And I'll be like, hey, get away from me. It's worse. Doesn't it go right in your stomach? You don't want to have a rabies shot.

1:49:22 Some fellow Hunter S. Thompson fan. And there would be like millions and millions of bats. and they die. They both died. Yeah, they both died. Yeah, it's insanely toxic. They just It was probably an hour of bats. And the fucking DEA kicks down their door, guns blazing, rifles in their face, and finds My sister's ex-husband used to grow tomatoes and shit because they lived in Boston.

1:52:21 This is how stupid this situation is. Stake out your house. hear people who are all like, I love freedom, but I'm pro-drug war. I'm against legal prostitution. I'm against... He's like, you're not pro-freedom, motherfucker. You're only pro the freedom of the stuff you like the idea that making anything that A, benefits people, P, people want to do, and C, there's no victims.

1:53:51 I mean, even when people are against it philosophically because they are control freaks who want some Yeah, the best example that we have about whether or not it's good when I moved here from Italy, I didn't know about the age 21 It's not like, cool, I got booze. you learn how to drink a little bit at a time. society, maybe that's the only way you can really get shit done. Maybe you have to have

1:56:25 Yeah. He's a friend of mine. But he's still like he's lucid when he talks. came back, won a couple fights, The fight with Hector Camacho, when Hector Camacho stopped him, First round, Hagler-Hearns. He was, when I was a kid, he was a big inspiration for me. Freezing. Yeah, he beat the fuck out of some people, man. They were like, literally the man has like

1:59:22 about him. Like you could never hurt, like Tommy Hearns guys like that throughout history that just for sad to see old great fighters that don't that's one of the saddest aspects of fighting and They fall funny, you know, and a lot of heads collide with knees and you take it over and over and over after a while. That's how I do it. when you are done with a sparring session in striking that sometimes you're not entirely sure how well

2:02:07 So it can get unrealistic for guys who like to spar light, Right. that you go full out on the mitts and the bag Oh, it's whoosh. It feels great, but it's awesome to get good at. Oh, it's whoosh. now mayweather i just can't take it why why is that he's brilliant he's brilliant And then he just counterpunched the fucking shit out of him, man. He's made some crazy claims about MMA, which I always find hilarious.

2:04:56 I think Mayweather loses this weekend. I was like, he's gonna lose it just he can hurt his hand yeah that's the only way and no way in hell he's going to lose. He could hurt his hand. Yeah, exactly. He just dislocated it and twisted it and broke the skin. No, no, no. That's when he realized there was something wrong with his foot. I'm like, okay. that i've ever seen or who who saw that coming beat some guy up you hurt your own self and yeah

2:07:32 But the beating Yep. and he wins by whatever. what the fuck what how what's he gonna be like when he's 35 yeah because he's not really taking tapped he did not tap and then he beat him up and then he tapped him he tapped him with a fucked up That was some real black belt shit. bitch you gotta ronda rousey it ronda breaks arms she doesn't wait for you to tap yep she's not even

2:10:12 Well, sometimes. Right. No, I asked this artist. again and you need to question your sanity for mass producing these fucking things i love it The other interpretation, people are like, no, but wait, this dude is punching him and he's leaning back. You've got to address the situation more rationally. No, we record. you want it right of them on the road

2:13:22 right He thinks he can go to the motherland. And he's like, if you come to the show, I'm going to give away presents the whole night. and he gives a joint to every single person in the audience and then how hands out he opens like uh this thing of joints and he gives a joint that was in the main room which is right below right below the belly room Because Stan Hope used to do it.

2:15:50 in it it was really weird and i think they tore it down since then ohio state and doug played and Because Stan helped do it on stage? The problem with cigarettes is it fucks with other people. But he said the one thing that he regrets is the cigarettes. I don't know. That's sort of a – Oh, it does. Goddamn, I'm stressed out. I need it, I need it, you need it. Goddamn, I'm stressed out.

2:18:18 It's the exact opposite of something that relaxes you. Let that hot heroin just race through your body. Some guy posted a thread about it on the message board. I agree with that. like people, I'm pro freedom, except that you can't kill yourself the way you want to. more you said you're still in pain you know of course you just keep shooting up until you die

2:20:44 How about that? You die the way you want to. How about, oh, it's terrible. It's like, well, you don't fucking do it. How about that? You don't outlaw something just because it can be used against their will. about you but in somebody's hand having a fucking atomic weapon wouldn't be a problem because you're work, it's inefficient. So it's tricky. I can see why people argue passionately both

2:22:45 every single precious life that we're not allowed allowing stupid people to die from being stupid There's no way. Jesus. Where are you teaching at? then you can open a whole shit storm of say? Right. I had an open letter to academia that closed with the immortal words of Tupac, fuck you people that made teaching or made school boring as fuck that's the majority i didn't know that

2:26:00 that people around the world want to listen to because he's a storyteller, because he makes it exciting. And that's the thing that in some way it sucks because you can tell to somebody, look, this sucks because it's so boring and it doesn't have the juice. a little incense lit, smoking a joint, Well, early 70s. Oh, they sign up for your course. about that yes i was rebellious it was before i realized the ultimate expression of rebellion

2:28:12 It's on iTunes? teaching a whole lot because I'm there mainly limit. Other classes they enroll it and then they leave a bunch of empty chairs. So The Drunken Taoist is available on iTunes. That's it, bitches. Thank you to audible.com for sponsoring this podcast. That's O-N-N-I-T. Yes. I don't want to hear it. You bitches need to learn how to use your 1967 fucking whack

2:30:51 And we will see you on Monday.