Joe Rogan Experience #366 — Bobcat Goldthwait Transcript
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0:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! Seems like we don't need the music. Have you ever had a catheter? By the way, the voice that you're hearing, that's Bobcat Goldthwait, ladies and gentlemen. I watched it last night. And I thought it, I was worried because I'm really So a really mixed crowd Big foot. didn't want to give away any spoilers so i knew i'm like i gotta ask him this yeah well yeah and
2:53 I just, because of a couple of reasons. That's so true. But that's the reality of it. Really? I mean, he was gone. I want to clear that up. Born, yeah. So 25, New York, 27, LA. Yeah. I wasn't very funny. class, I wasn't very comfortable. A little bit because I hurt the have avoided it. Like sometimes I think about it, I could have avoided it. And do you regret you didn't avoid it? Yeah, a little bit because I hurt the kid.
6:01 So this guy hit you. Yeah. Squirting out of your ears. Yeah, just make mistakes situations where you don't even want to be somewhere. you'd be, did your fist get stuck? so people left me alone. That guy's gonna kill you. The idea of running around in the same world as some of these people was fucking terrifying. It was a really cool place. a threat. But then the guy who was sober
9:10 proud that that i have the ability to really uh and i'm not known for this i mean people a lot So like Well, it's a defense mechanism for doing stand-up, I think. they want me to do this voice from the how they know me from years ago and i'm not doing it and all about them I just berated this table women and then one stood up sobbing and It was like, you know, Lenny Clark and Dennis Leary and Stephen Wright and Barry Crimmins and, you know, just all these different unique voices that came out.
12:17 like, what a crazy scene it was. I'll tell one or two Boston stories. So this story is that long ago. it's like smoky and yeah and i'm like oh there is no there's there's no god yeah yeah yeah up is down Now, this was like in the 80s. Well, I did it, and like I said, I stopped everything when I was 19. I wasn't getting fucking high anymore. I don't know.
15:23 Speed. Yeah, I'm. He and I were talking about how the guys who were doing comedy were men. Oh, yeah. And we're sitting there talking about Noel Coward references and stuff. but one of the guys I was with one night, And he wouldn't let me go. I remember at the time that night and Crimmins goes that's comedy. because it was so legendary. The comics were never in charge of the booking of it,
18:44 And then I stop, and I say, you know, hi, this is my real voice. And this woman just contact vomited. Good night. You weird. No more fish. I went to San Francisco. So it was way after. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a little bit in that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like 80, the end of 80 probably. Did you see Fran Solomita's documentary? Oh, sure, yeah. But it wasn't raw dog.
21:15 I get on Letterman probably in a year or so. you know it's not your turn put in your seniority and watched it Yeah, please. text she goes i have diarrhea and i went into russell brand's dressing room and i'm using his And so my daughter texts back, Dad, you're great. This is bad. I'm like, well, he didn't try? Oh, okay. Oh, thanks, man. Tommy tells the story better.
24:35 I started crying too. I've known Tom Kenny. as characters what the fuck were we thinking? Because even my small indie films that I do under the radar and they play festivals, go to your Bigfoot, so I had a different movie in my head, which I still think I'll write, shysters, there's people, I mean, so it's a really That's funny. Yeah, and the other dude goes, really?
27:19 So subcultures are fascinating to me. I do believe that there's a Sasquatch out there. Woo-hoo. Yeah, it's completely. And I just, and I was, fortunately enough, Jimmy Kimmel hired me to direct his show. That was weird on the street. the thing with the Tonight Show. And I really was just like so over it. and then you're in some dopey teen comedies and you can criticize what everybody else does and be
30:46 tv anymore and I said that the night show on fire and then immediately I get booked on every show this guy, what a hmm. on that show a raw deal you know that you know it's funny people you know I think the character would cloud people I think they just saw me in Police Academy. Like, you didn't just have stand-up. so it's hard to jettison it, Did people totally expect it?
33:39 And that's where you find when you're happy. I don't know. You know, because I think that, because sometimes, did you ever see, did you ever see the. Did she really? Yeah, yeah. Like, hypothetically, let's say you or I, I give it up. Is that all shit or is it some of the beer? it wouldn't be a deal breaker, Yeah, and then he starts throwing it at people.
36:25 You go, ah. So it's just madness. It's like some bath salts. Like there'd be like a group of people and then you just see them drop. Yeah, it'd be like three or four of them. So, you know, it's... And he's like, you know, you got it. He's like, fuck you, Upchuck. And I'm like, okay. Yeah. The first can of Fago comes in. That's hilarious. diet it's not gonna stay so then one comes in and in the oh nines got it on on camera she had a sports setting on her on her camera so the shutter is like faster so we've got this shot it's like
40:31 He's calling me Bob, so I know he's really fucked up. How old were you when this was going on, by the way? It's juggalo's time. Oh, God. Oh, that's hilarious. A fucking can of soda to the head. Says the man who lit the Tonight Show couch on fire. No, I actually did a fine set. If you're going to hang out with a bunch of people that are partying and they're calling themselves the Juggalos, some soda is going to fly through the air.
43:28 Yeah. to jail they had a bus so you so we pull out right and the cops are going what's going on i go look So they were looking for people to be drunk driving. There is. Oh, my God. It's because you've been around it so many times. She goes, what do you think I'm doing? I was somewhere up in Willow Creek, and I just said to my wife, I go, just stop the car.
45:58 But I know what you're talking about, about freaking out about lines and stuff like that. If you can't just stand still and relax in a line and then they're nice and slow. where I'm shooting people and you know what are you looking at it's just me looking at like look at this 80 acres a lake yeah it's got Did you start it? And he had like animal skins and shit.
47:53 experiences up there. In Search of is the one that turns everybody around. Bobo showed up. I showed the movie up. Without saying anything about it? I try not to be cheesy. I'm having a blast Yeah, so that blew my mind when I saw it. It's crazy. Okay, so I've heard this. So I shoot my agent an email and I say, got this idea for a TV show for John Lannis myself.
50:49 So thank God he's a nice guy. How did you get my email address? You've probably seen it. Because I got a great, I love this. snarky place. I sincerely am a fan of Landis and stuff. It is a rabbit hole. Yes. That's a guy in a monkey suit. Explain to me this Why did There's a couple things. There wasn't four-way stretch fabric that looked like fur at that point. not i'm not sure if that's entirely true a lot of knuckleheads
54:29 Yeah, the gate looks like a dude with a big load in his pants. Look at the calf. Ready? slightly longer hands like he's probably got some artificial hands in the suit. And he passed the lie detector test. 100%. Now, do you spend time trying to piece it together or do you move past it? My instructor was crazy, and he made me fight grown men when I was 15.
56:56 an adult and I was so scared of it was often sad as a child, But when did the comedy come about? That's what a lot of moving from town to town when you're the new kid, it's like you always have to defend yourself. And the parents are around? Did you have any social life? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was ridiculous. I think if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
59:57 I don't think it's a mistake that the knees aren't shown here, honestly. but there is footprints in the movie. Make people, because there's so much about this movie Don't do it. Yeah, no, absolutely. Let's throw it all out and say it is fake. And everything was destroyed. when you say something like that. in the woods So there's no phones. That's true.
1:03:32 don't say any more, I am happy that people like it, it will give you this new appreciation of how ridiculously wild that area is. Well, they're energy. That's great. Yeah, man. It's just like, you know, things are going to fall apart, but it's not going to be anarchy. Maybe the earth need plastic. because I like the quiet. So where did you see these mountain lions?
1:06:52 lion's tall and he's got a long tail he's like yeah i saw a mountain lion and i go where and i'm They're scary. It's just going to take you down. And so I was like, how close were you? Like, I'm sure he's about to eat something. They bark, they get them up a tree You should have a gun around mountain lines And, you know, it's like 3, 4 in the morning and he's like you know uh i'm
1:09:28 That's hilarious. The howl was very authentic. I think that the past and get a coaxer a guy's a bullshit artist I met people when I was up in the Pacific Northwest that knew This is one of them. no costume like that. that might be a flaw in the costume, that might be his ass, I want to get back to the breasts. Okay, how about this? than they filmed Bigfoot.
1:11:56 There's a lot of things See, It's just blown up. When you're looking at You can't even see any definition of those trees. You're looking at incredibly hold up so much over there? It doesn't. Let them waste their time. Yeah, but that's the stuff that people are calling BS on. thing other than their own. I don't know if she's correct or wrong, Jimmy Stewart.
1:14:53 It's a Yeti finger. It had DNA testing done to it. People will go, well, where's the footage? A human finger. That little tiny man that they found on the island of Flores. No. that these are yetis what the number I feel really bad for bringing up this. Eventually, yeah. Well, it's very. First of all, there's elk that bound in front of you, and they're, oh, you know, 500, 600-pound animal just jumping in front of you.
1:18:14 Yeah. This is around a campfire in the middle of the night. to me, the most interesting shit is the howls that are really insane. There's the feature, there's the headliner, and the emcee. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like wondering, like, how does this guy feel about grass? Sober squatching leaves much to be desired. I'm like, you're not getting through that.
1:21:28 So if something was living up there, it could see you coming a fucking mile away. But deer. Did you have a good time? because there's no wind inside this forest. that's Squatch. but I haven't gone. I'm doing a gig up there in two weeks. At least you're going now. of heated things, and it's dry. with heavy equipment I don't know. Sure. That's legit to me.
1:25:10 That's, well, you know, that's, again, the 09, she likes to say this movie, Willow Creek, It's fucking great. Well, thanks, man. Where's he filming that? That would be like Yeah, he's brilliant. Yeah. They're questioning. and it just said, don't fuck this up. of course you know you do that to a guy and they go up and they're they're laughing because right
1:28:19 What I like about it is that you have not boxed yourself into any one corner. Yeah, yeah. But there's something awesome every time you jump off and you go, And I go, this doesn't apply to any of you kids. I mean, you're younger than me. question that if you produce anything you create something you're competing against somebody to that you enjoy what you've done,
1:31:22 when you're sitting there You know, Fear Factor, there's nothing artistic about Fear Factor. I have a very healthy I'm an idiot. No, you know what it is? You're like, oh, man. doing the commercial, I go over, do the voice. guys that I've seen in and out of his life. And I said to her, I go, well, then what did you do? You're dead. She killed me! You did this one episode.
1:34:41 But I make it because I'm interested in filmmaking, What I'm doing is some of them I'm doing with comedians, like I did one with Duncan like. they have a sense of humor. Yeah. Which makes me wonder why people get so aggressive about it. Now, it's actually so played out, what's the band that sucks? as a comic, it's really funny chad is you know i i figure out that's the lead singer he says don't shoot chad from the front. And I'm like, I don't even know what Chad is. You know, I figure out that's the lead singer.
1:37:31 Don't shoot him profile. I was like, don't shoot. Hey, Bob, can I direct? direct you know you're letting the manager nickelback direct you know And I did a montage of his nose. Have a good weekend, guys. Is it that they're too smooth? It's just this weird... Fill in the blank. Yeah, but here's the thing. You end up meeting all these. Yeah. I was super influenced by Andy Kaufman
1:40:56 Originality was really huge in Boston. But for people that you realize that you're going to have to be judged by your peers, you kick it off a little. Sure. We'd be like, what the hell was that? Or do you think we're too fractured as a society? appeal to everybody, but they're not the My parents, if they were alive, would not know who Dane Cook is.
1:43:10 You might be right. What do you think is going to happen? The news should not be, you know, it should be, it's never impartial, but it should be somewhat. When someone calls you a liberal, that's hilarious. All right, look it up in a dictionary. what was it? Disregarding traditional values. get them up get that fucker up it's like there's a part of people that resents them immediately
1:46:14 It was a much, much, much harder world that they were dealing with. and that'll make... That's 100%. What we're missing is that those times that we bombed, we probably should have never got back on stage. Often. Many times. Yeah, it's a new thing. thing you know suddenly it dawned on me what was a new thing that dawned on me is like uh uh it was, okay, these people have an expectation, and I'm not doing that.
1:49:31 And it's been different. yeah yeah He's still funny. You know where it's going. You know what I mean? And instead of just blurting out those new ideas, you know, that's usually what I do, like in the first couple of minutes, whatever the new ideas is, and then I do the act. I keep doing it and see if folks like it. but I will say Yeah, there's something about creating things where,
1:52:18 and this thing's going to happen in front of you You just want to go do more. Or wouldn't this be cool? Instead, you're like, you know what, man? I'm fucking into Bigfoot. but it was really more just like, do you know how freeing that is? Yeah, yeah. you take 11 days, I drove up first You know, I just went where, like, kind of poked around and knew certain sites where people had seen, you know, or heard or, you know, events.
1:55:16 It's still another place that there's a lot of Squatch activity. that the North American Indians had named after Bigfoot. something silly about i mean i went with dunkin truss and we ate pot candies and had a fucking Redman's not here. Do you know what that smells like? I would think if you had those brownies out there in the woods, Bigfoot's going to fucking smell them.
1:57:38 He's like 250. People are just mad. he's got this this onesie this big unitard that he wears under the gorilla suit and clearly he uh his balls that's all i get i'm just tears tears and that's all you can get out of the he's like is going on Tony, I love Tony. Furious. And then he's got all the way down I got a big case here It was a long thing. that way. I was like, yeah, you can do things you don't want to do like that. And just,
2:01:31 That would be horrible. I mean, of like getting, That's how I'd sneak into bars and they were all surfing. gone out in Mexico. it's a famous surf site and everybody's fucked up except me. It's just loud, and there's stars, and these guys are screaming. And you hate them for liking it. And Kurt is totally flipped out, like, Eddie Van Halen wants to jam.
2:04:11 And he's like, he would figure it out. Just hanging out. Why did they never do that? You know, maybe... Moved to Japan by himself. He just enjoys them. Where they clip up here. is first of all he likes living small no pretense Well, when I started talking, you know, I know, I know. I mean, you just told me a David Lee Roth story. Yeah, he does it from Japan.
2:07:04 Find out what the address is. I – find out what the address is. I heard that. That's what he calls it. So he'd come flying in with the guitar So, his boot heels He hobbles really bad now. huh? call him my friend. The second part. No. And it was in Detroit in the snow? and then he climbs in a tree with a bow and arrow I'm kind of a Ted Nugent fanboy.
2:11:02 other they shoot them whenever they want to so you could shoot them every day if you chose. Mom! She was like, well, she goes, when we see elk, we just shoot them with a bow and arrow and nobody could hear it. And Tony, we get out of the car and there's just corn like psycho corn he's like I want to blast them He's shooting out the window. I go, yeah, you dropped a dime on that woodchuck.
2:13:45 why like my life is like you know i had back surgery less than a month and a half ago it was I had some disc and bone spurs, and I feel great. Oh, well, I have a dude when you want to cowboy up. But here's – I mean, yeah, 19. So it's the shit that killed Lenny Bruce. You know what I mean? Because of the pain. You know what I mean? I go, yeah, it'd scare the cats.
2:17:01 She's like, no, that wouldn't. Like, later on, it's the funny story. Well, that's also what's gotten you, I mean, as a comic, that's sort of what gets you like your life your career She always knows. But do you give yourself a green light to do shit like that because you're in pain? And so this was what worked. And my wife comes in, and she goes, or whatever I was watching
2:20:00 that stuff ever. Did you tell the people that you were on it? a lot. Can I go, you know what I mean? It started affecting what you do to the point Well, I have a great doctor, but it sounds like are you worried about the controls surrendering it? I tore my ACL in both knees. I knew something was really wrong. And he extended his legs and my leg went sideways and just went snap like a carrot.
2:22:04 So I knew that my right was probably fucked. No, but I mean, does he feel weird? of times. Yeah. It just went pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. like he was pretty close to getting out of it, Well, it can be dangerous. Yeah. So it was something with spinal decompression and a bunch of different things. They were like, oh. The problem is by the time you figure out how to do it, what makes you happy, the wheels start falling off.
2:24:26 that's blurry. I can't read a number. Then I have to go like that Motherfucker, what do I got to do? That's true Like it's almost like it comes from somewhere else. And the big part of it is trying to – I can't believe I'm not on Dilaudid right now. Boo-hoo. Yeah, yeah. Like The War of Art? and when I put in the hours, the muse will come. i always feel that way and the cynical me is like, what, he thought he could do better?
2:28:40 I truly don't know when I'm making these movies what they're about. until after they're done in this movie? your movie's fucking badass and I really wish you all the best, it is. Well, listen, man, your movie's fucking badass. If anybody wants to see it, what will be the availability? It's fucking great. You're gonna enjoy the shit out Great. We'll put it out there for you.
2:30:16 It's hard to spell, but, you know. We'll have a contest to see how many Twitter followers we can get you in a day. Listen, Bob Scratch. We'll talk about that in the next episode. Yeah. She killed a boy dog. Squeaky from is my best friend. and already crazy ladies and gentlemen Use the code word JRE and save yourself some money. That's it. I'm still looking for a lot of crazy shit going on this week.
2:33:03 Big kiss. Mwah. Mwah.